YTSEJAM Digest 912
Today's Topics:
1) Kansas (again) (NDTC)
by Erotomania@aol.com
2) DT in El Paso?
by Robert_Kasper_at_Main__Post__Office@voyager.capmetro.austin.tx.us (Robert Kasper)
3) Last Night's Setlist
by James Utz 04-Aug-1995 1126 <utz@pcbuoa.ENET.dec.com>
4) Classical/Acoustic Guitars
by Mats Rydstr\vm <d94-mry@nada.kth.se>
5) Great concert alert!!!
by kinzelmann@globalone.net (jerry kinzelmann)
6) Providence show aftermath
by Corporate Community Relations <buckley@powdml.ENET.dec.com>
7) Seeing DT in the real world/people who listen to DT
by Michael Kevin Martin <marmik@homer.acs.bethel.edu>
8) 1812 in 2112
by Mats Rydstr\vm <d94-mry@nada.kth.se>
9) chain letters??
by Paul Lapinski <plapin@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
10) Echolyn
by "Kevin G. Villines" <kvillin@comp.uark.edu>
11) Re: Great concert alert!!!
by Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca>
12) Trivia answers
by zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
13) John Petrucci Guitar giveaway!
by Brad Trent <huntkill@liii.com>
14) Tabla Players
by Aviad Shkolnikov <shkola@mail.snunit.k12.il>
15) Various, Mirror
by GBatesGT@aol.com
16) age discrimination..
by Mats Rydstr\vm <d94-mry@nada.kth.se>
17) Megadeth, etc.
by mjnewb@basenet.net (Monty)
18) Videos!!!
by "DAVE \"The New #2\" PETERSON" <GLYDE@VAX1.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
19) Providence show review
by PARALLELS@aol.com
20) Tour Dates
by garyake@digital.net (gary ake)
21) Re: Seeing DT in the real world/people who listen to DT
by whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White)
22) Re: Megadeth
by jforte@acl.nyit.edu (The one they call Jeff)
23) DT setlist compilation
by curth@execpc.com
24) Older gen's reaction to DT...
by JennieBear@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 10:02:56 -0400
From: Erotomania@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Kansas (again) (NDTC)
Message-ID: <950804100254_47802920@aol.com>
Sheesh - I don't log on for three days, and my mail box takes forever to go
through!
Anyway, re: Kansas:
1974 : Kansas*
1975 : Song For America*
1975 : Masque*
1976 : Leftoverture*
1977 : Point of Know Return*
1978 : Two For The Show (live)*
1979 : Monolith*
1980 : Audio-Visions*
1982 : Vinyl Confessions
1983 : Drastic Measures
1984 : "Best" Of Kansas
1986 : Power*
1988 : In The Spirit Of Things
1990 : Carry On (CBS Special Product)
1992 : Live At The Whiskey
1995 : Freaks Of Nature
My favorites have been indicated with asteriks.
Have a pleasant day.
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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 09:14:26 -0500
From: Robert_Kasper_at_Main__Post__Office@voyager.capmetro.austin.tx.us (Robert Kasper)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT in El Paso?
Message-ID: <0220f860@voyager.capmetro.austin.tx.us>
I heard a rumor that DT will be playing in El Paso soon. Can anyone
confirm or deny this rumor? El Paso's only 350 miles from Austin...
WAHOOOO! (if it's true...)
-Rob
"I wanted to find and Innocent Mind
but only found myself waiting.
I laid on the floor, you walked through the door
and now I feel myself fading..."
- Kevin Moore
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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 95 11:39:24 EDT
From: James Utz 04-Aug-1995 1126 <utz@pcbuoa.ENET.dec.com>
To: mail11:;@us4rmc.pko.dec.com@us4rmc.pko.dec.com@digital.com; (@ytsejam)
Subject: Last Night's Setlist
Message-ID: <9508041539.AA15798@us4rmc.pko.dec.com>
This is my guess at the setlist from last night's show. It was an
excellent concert all around. James' voice was incredible.
6:00
Under A Glass Moon
The Mirror
Lie
Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
A Change Of Seasons
Erotomania
Voices
The Silent Man
Surrounded
Pull Me Under
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Perfect Strangers
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Wait For Sleep (Acoustic)
Learning To Live
James LaBrie said that the "A Change Of Seasons" EP will be released on
September 26. He also said that this is the last show for the Awake tour,
and they will be back with a full album and tour in the summer of 96.
Apparently, they will not be touring in support of the new EP because he
wished everybody a "Merry Christmas" and a "Happy New Year".
I almost didn't go to the show - that would've been a big mistake.
James
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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 18:30:59 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Mats Rydstr\vm <d94-mry@nada.kth.se>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Classical/Acoustic Guitars
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91N2.950804181455.27580A-100000@mumrik.nada.kth.se>
Hi Jammers!
someone wrote:
>>Does Petrucci use his classical guitar on any other songs except
>>"learning to live"?
and this and the responses interested me.
I usually consider the term 'classical guitar' as another way of saying
nylon-stringed acoustic guitar (the kind of guitar used in classical
music) as opposed to steel (or whatever they use) stringed acoustic
guitars, which are referred to as just acoustic guitars. (can someone
point out the difference with the term Western Guitar?)
With this in mind, JP uses his classical guitar on these occasions:
* the intro to The Killing Hand (3 or more overdubs)
* the solo in The Silent Man
On the other hand he uses his 'normal' acoustic guitar on these:
* the intro to Pull Me Under
* Another Day
* Surrounded (together w/ the electric on the major-scale melody)
* Learning To Live, both the 'break' itself and a doubling of one of the
electric guitar melodies.
* the chords/rhythm guitar on The Silent Man
* somewhere in The Mirror (the middle part)
and I think I've also heard some acoustic guitar in one of the other
songs on Awake. Please give more examples where you hear acoustic
guitars!
I think the most interesting ones are the coupling of the electric
melody-lines on Surrounded and LTL, they create a very interesting
effect. The somewhat distorted but even electric tone together with the
snapping and attack of the acoustic...beautiful!
---prog on!
/Mats
________________________________________________________________________ / Mats Rydstrom - d94-mry@nada.kth.se - http://www.nada.kth.se/~d94-mry / /-----------------------------------------------------------------------/ / "We can hope for the future, though there may not be one" - ACOS / /_______________________________________________________________________/
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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 13:21:44 -0400 From: kinzelmann@globalone.net (jerry kinzelmann) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Great concert alert!!! Message-ID: <199508041721.NAA07192@mail.globalone.net>
Hi everyone,
I just want to let everybody on the list know that Jeff Beck is on tour with Santana. Jeff has Terry Bozzio on drums, and for all of you who think the drums begin and end with Mike P. and Neil Peart you MUST SEE THIS CONCERT. Some of you younger jammers might not be to familiar with Jeff Beck and Santana but this concert has it all, great guitar playing, killer keyboards and awsome drumming. Santana's drums and percussion section consists of four guys!! I gaurantee you won't be disappointed. I saw them Aug. 2 at Saratoga, N.Y. If you have Web access you can find the tour and others at http://www.pollstar.com/
Jerry
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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 95 10:11:52 EDT From: Corporate Community Relations <buckley@powdml.ENET.dec.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Providence show aftermath Message-ID: <9508041407.AA28131@us2rmc.zko.dec.com>
Hey jammers...
Well, the 8/3 Providence show was one of the best I've seen DT play in a while, and probably the best they have sounded on this tour (but not my favorite set list, I liked the first Providence show on 10/20/94 better).
Here was the set list played -- it only very slightly differed from the CPI show:
6:00 Under A Glass Moon The Mirror Lie Lifting Shadows Off A Dream A Change of Seasons Surrounded (Derek solo...into) A Mind Beside Itself Erotomania Voices (with samples) The Silent Man (with Derek and John P. trading licks during the spanish guitar break) Pull Me Under
Encore #1: --------- Perfect Strangers
Encore #2: --------- Wait For Sleep Learning To Live
They confirmed rumours this was the LAST U.S. show on the Awake tour -- the crowd was definitely pumped!! Of note -- Perfect Strangers sounded great, and I think the EP may be a good commercial success for the band, should they decide to release any of the covers for airplay.
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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 18:40:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Kevin Martin <marmik@homer.acs.bethel.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Seeing DT in the real world/people who listen to DT Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9508041853.A26857-0100000@homer>
Okay, two comments:
First, speaking as a "former" musician, and and a person who knows a few popular musicians, I can say that musicians are people too, who just happen to have jobs playing music. I know, I know, you all know this, but consider that everyone likes to have their own private time (perhaps me more than others); how thrilled would you be if every time you turned around, every time you were in public, people were coming up to you asking/talking to you about your job? I'd go nuts. I know this probably won't make me the most popular guy on the 'Jam, but I applaud the gentleman who was at Chili's and just simply left J. Myung and J. LaBrie to their conversation. As much as they may enjoy what they do, everyone values anonymity at times. Second comment: regarding the "sorts that listen to DT", I just thought it was interesting how few females listen to it. Not just YTSEJAM subscribers, but everywhere. I know ONE (uno, un) female that likes DT, and even then she doesn't consider them to be highly skilled, technical musicians...she thnks they're just a rockin' kind of a band. I have yet to meet a female who has a deep appreciation for what DT has brought to the world of music (excepting the couple who are on the 'Jam, of course. Pardon me, ladies). Innyhoo, just a thought.
Take care, everybody.
M. Martin
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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 22:19:01 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mats Rydstr\vm <d94-mry@nada.kth.se> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: 1812 in 2112 Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91N2.950804220757.16851A-100000@dront.nada.kth.se>
Yowza!
Just figured something out about 5 minutes ago, this will of course be old news to most of you but I would also like to know which Rush-fans didn't know this already:
The melody-line Alex plays at the end of 2112:Overture is in fact the main theme from 1812 by Tschaikovskij! These two 'number-named' symphonies ties together this way, or are there even more borrowed riffs?
Sorry 'bout the redundant information but this was really a heavy thing for me and I just had to share it with someone!
/Mats
________________________________________________________________________ / Mats Rydstrom - d94-mry@nada.kth.se - http://www.nada.kth.se/~d94-mry / /-----------------------------------------------------------------------/ / "We can hope for the future, though there may not be one" - ACOS / /_______________________________________________________________________/
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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 20:39:38 -0400 From: Paul Lapinski <plapin@unf6.cis.unf.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: chain letters?? Message-ID: <Pine.DYN.3.91.950804203427.29382A-100000@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
Has anyone else seen the "recipe selling" chain letter on various newsgroups? It claims that it is legal and that you can make $100,000... All you end up spending is $8. Has anyone tried this? Does it work?
I am extremely skeptical... but who knows? I may try it but I don't want to get flamed 100 times over... Does anyone know about this particular chain letter? Ahh well.....
Thanks, Paul Lapinski INFERNO - bass/stick For info on INFERNO, e-mail: jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu
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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 19:49:44 -0500 (CDT) From: "Kevin G. Villines" <kvillin@comp.uark.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Echolyn Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950804194455.951B-100000@comp>
Just thought I'd check and see if there is an Echolyn CD available in the US. Also, I've seen people talk about various bands that "fit" the DT mode. I'm familiar with more well known bands such as rush,etc.. but could I get a few responses about some of the lesser known bands and where I might be able to pick up their CDs. Later, Kevin
P.S.-Michael Bahr is truly the man. I got a copy of Subconcious and must say that it is a wonderful journey through the greatest band of all TIME!
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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 18:04:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Great concert alert!!! Message-ID: <199508050104.SAA00312@malibu.sfu.ca>
> I just want to let everybody on the list know that Jeff Beck is on tour > with Santana. Jeff has > Terry Bozzio on drums, and for all of you who think the drums begin and end > with Mike P. and > Neil Peart you MUST SEE THIS CONCERT. Some of you younger jammers might not > be to familiar > with Jeff Beck and Santana but this concert has it all, great guitar > playing, killer keyboards and > awsome drumming. Santana's drums and percussion section consists of four > guys!! I gaurantee you won't be disappointed. I saw them Aug. 2 at
i would love to see this show...they're coming to the gorge in George, WA. but the tix (the good ones) are like $90! plus i'd have to drive 6 hours to get there, and i should be studying for exams :)
oh, and Rod Stuart will also be there.
tim
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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 23:07:22 -0400 (EDT) From: zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Trivia answers Message-ID: <199508050307.XAA25814@umbc9.umbc.edu>
Thanks for the new trivia answers, and here's hoping I'm the first to answer them correctly.
1. The concept piece, or "mini-opera" that Townshend wrote between Tommy and Quadrophenia is called "A Quick One While He's Away" I believe, and while it was never released except split up on various albums, the new rerelease of Live at Leeds has over 2x as much music, among the extras is none other than this, as a concept piece as it was written. Uh, I think...
2. Easy one. Brian May was pusuing a PhD in Physics, and has a Masters in the subject. Incedentally here are the potential careers of the other members of Queen: Freddie Mercury was an art student, bassist John Deacon was studying electronics, and drummer Roger Taylor was a pre-Dentistry student at the time of the formation of Queen.
I hope I'm right! See y'all later!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ___ ___ ___ _ _ ___ ___ "...all that I feel is honor and spite. | __| |_ _| | __| | V | | __| |_ | ...all I can do is to set it right." |__ | | | | __| \ / | __| / / Kevin Moore, PMU |___| |_| |___| V |___| |___|"Of all the stupid things I could have Steve Zebrowski szebro1@gl.umbc.edu thought this was the worst..." Joe Jackson, Hometown ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
p.s.: what do I win? :)
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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 23:21:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Brad Trent <huntkill@liii.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: John Petrucci Guitar giveaway! Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950804231739.18574A-100000@oak.liii.com>
Dear jammers,
If you guys read the new GftPM, there is a John Petrucci guitar giveaway. Just e-mail to 74774.2131@compuserve.com and put "Dream Theater Giveaway" in the subject line. Then in the text, put in your name, address, and phone number. I think ten runners-up will receive ACoS, which is still really cool! Good luck to any of you who will enter!
Yours, Jeff =)
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Date: Sat, 5 Aug 95 8:32 +0300 From: Aviad Shkolnikov <shkola@mail.snunit.k12.il> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Tabla Players Message-ID: <m0sebry-0002q3C@donews.cts.com>
Hey! This is for the guy from Bangla-Desh (Minhaz I think). Do you know Triluk Gortu? Amazing Set&Tabla player. Also played with McLaughlin.
- Aviad
***************************************************************************** "We went shoping for God, * "See my diary on the news stand, and got the God of Shoping..." * Seems we lost the truth to quicksand" Galiano * Dream Theater, "Voices" *****************************************************************************
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Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 02:30:31 -0400 From: GBatesGT@aol.com To: Ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Various, Mirror Message-ID: <950805023029_48431165@aol.com>
First off, I just wanted to say that I've seen a number of threads that bored me, and bugged me, etc., but I quickly realized that one merely has to put up with it. For those irritated enough at the mirror thread to say so, the only realistic reactions to your post is A. it will be ignored or B. it will be argued. So why bother? Personally the mirror thread has been of the greater interest in the last 10 jams.
At any rate, I have just returned from Beinn Breagh, Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, and am catching up. . .
It seems that Mirror could even be simplified to this: A: (following the bass)
Bass (rake) (+pickup) ; 3/4 ; 3/4; 3/4 (x4) Drums: rest----------- 3/4; 4/4 (X4)
Keys: 4/4 x8 // 4/4 x 9 Bass: " " (following the keys) Drums: ""
and continues. Also to find more polyrhythms, one can find all over the beginning of 'Eve' 3 in the piano and 2 on all else, the textbook example of polyrhythm. Also:
123123123 121212121
or
12341234 12312312
are not polyrhythm, but rather hemiolas. syncopation (?) is: 1-2-3-4 | 1-2-3-4 -a-a-a-a | -a-a-a-a
or 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
(i.e off-beats)
I have arrived to the conclusion that very few pianists would be able to pick up the entirety of Wait for Sleep, and that most of those few would have to be composers. To begin with, it is impossible to play all at one time, one must pre-record at least two harmony lines, in addition to the fact that there are usually two to three melodies going on simultaneously. For performance, I would say it probably ranks up with the advanced classical pianist teenager repertoire in terms of difficulty. I would love to try, if Kevin would deign to teach me!!
Also, Aufersteh'n or the 'Resurrection' Symphony is pure perfection by Mahler. It is one of the few pieces that I prefer over Dream Theater, and the only piece I would sell my soul to see.
My father takes a slight taste in DT at 51, but only because of its complexity. I'm sure of it.
Lastly, I think the 18 or over rule is legal. In fact I think 18 is the legal age requirement for bartending.
-Jun-Dai Bates
PS I'm 16
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Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 13:22:48 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mats Rydstr\vm <d94-mry@nada.kth.se> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: age discrimination.. Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91N2.950805130248.6559A-100000@mumrik.nada.kth.se>
Hi!
I don't agree with this age discrimination thing which is quite common here in Sweden. Often the clubs are 21+ and often there are different limits for men/women. One good thing to come out in recent years is that whenever there's a band playing the club usually set the limit to 18 instead of 21, 18 is the limit for drinking alcohol in Sweden. Still a lot of people don't get in. I remember when british band 'The Happy Mondays' played at a 21+ club here some years ago. The place was about half-full and by that time the band was very popular here. Most people simply couldn't get in. The same happened to Morbid Angel a couple of years ago. I'd wish that clubs here adapt the same policy as some clubs abroad, something around the wrist to signal that the person may not buy alcohol.
Of course there are cases when I won't allow these rules to take effect, when DT is playing! Their two first shows here were in 20+ bars and by that time I was 18 resp 19 years old, I got through, so did my brother (he was 16), I don't know how but he managed to fool the guards.
When we went to see Anglagard, Landberk, Anekdoten at a trendy 20+ bar some years ago we had to hassle with the guards for half an hour. They finally said: 'Ok, you don't seem to be here to pick up chicks and drink alcohol, you seem to be here for the music, hmmm....ok, get in, don't get anywhere near the bar and do NOT come back til you're 20!!!' Well, we missed the first Anglagard song but we DID get in!
--
Oh, BTW, my Mum likes some rock/metal, she has to since there's always music playing at home ;-) She sings along to PMU, Silent Lucidity, old Kiss, Led Zep, Deep Purple etc. My dad's another story though :-)
Oh, BTW BTW, I'm 21, I've been a CS student for one year but I don't know for how much longer. It really sucks right now! Maybe I should pay a little more attention to my BASS so that one day I can become a worshipped God like Myung, Geddy, Claypool.....nah, never mind :*)
(A new band wouldn't hurt though, my old one broke up two months ago!)
/Mats ________________________________________________________________________ / Mats Rydstrom - d94-mry@nada.kth.se - http://www.nada.kth.se/~d94-mry / /-----------------------------------------------------------------------/ / "We can hope for the future, though there may not be one" - ACOS / /_______________________________________________________________________/
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Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 08:04:11 -0500 From: mjnewb@basenet.net (Monty) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Megadeth, etc. Message-ID: <199508051304.IAA19865@basenet.net>
On the Megadeth topic that was mentioned recently, I happen to like their newer stuff pretty well (no, I don't really consider it prog in theleast bit). The tune on the latest album, "A Tout Le Monde" means a lot to me. It's an anti-suicide song, and really helped me get through a rough time this summer when an old friend of mine committed suicide. Also, I don't think they have "sold out." An artist changes. If Megadeth (or any other artist) continued to put out the same stuff just to cater to their old fans (or any other said group of people), that would be selling out. I think the whole "sell-out" thing is more of a matter of attitude than musical style. A good example would be Metallica. I saw their Woodstock performance, and they really came off, for me, to be extremely arrogant and totally into the "rock star" sttitude. That, for me, is selling out. Granted, a band may sound more commercial/mainstream on a particular album (i.e. King's X's Dogman - great album, BTW), but that definitely does NOT make them a sell-out. This is one of the things I totally dig about DT. They have great attitudes, and are not static, musically speaking, or any other way for that matter, and therefore, they are not boring. Each album (that I've heard - haven't heard all of WDADU yet...) is different. I think that the deal with Megadeth is that Youthanasia is simply where they're at artistically. That's all. I don't think money rules Mr. Mustaine's mind either. I don't know the guy personally, so I can't make a real judgment about his character, but he doesn't come off to me as being into the rock star thing as much as many other bands. I just saw them last night in St. Louis (were any of y'all there? Let me know), and they were the only band there really worth anything (Fear Factory, Korn, and Flotsam & Jetsam opened, and sucked). Anyway, I thought I'd just give my $.02 on the topic. Sorry it was so long, but I haven't been quite as active as usual lately, and was in a conversational (not debating) mood. Thanks. God bless.
Dale R. Newberry
"Taste is the enemy of art." -U2
P.S. Also my apologies for the minimal DT content.
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Date: Sat, 05 Aug 1995 11:12:13 -0600 (CST) From: "DAVE \"The New #2\" PETERSON" <GLYDE@VAX1.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU> To: Ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Videos!!! Message-ID: <01HTPN3E8U7M006TX9@VAX1.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
I've been lurking for quite a while. But who cares???
My question is: What is the "Lie" video like??? Seeing as I'll probably never see it in my lifetime until they release an Awake video in the stores, I'd like to at least get a description of what's going on in the video, or at least what you can remember!!!
Also, please do this for any other Awake videos. There's one for "Silent Man", .-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=. | ______ "Hmmmmmmm..." ____ ______ - David Peterson - | | /\_____\ /\ \ /\ /\___\ /\_____\ Glyde@Vax1.Mankato.msus.edu | | / /___ / / \/ / / / /\ /_/__ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=| | / /\__/\ / / / / / / / / /\____\ "The most beautiful thing that | | /_/___/ //_/___ / / /_/___/ / /_/____ this world has to offer is a | | \_____\/ \_____\ \/ \_____\/ \______\ woman's smiling face" - Me | `-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=' right? "Caught in a Web", possibly??? Whatever. Do what you can, jammers!
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Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 14:06:23 -0400 From: PARALLELS@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Providence show review Message-ID: <950805140621_48623708@aol.com>
Well saw the show in Providence. Not bad. Show number 13 for me so I've seen better ones. Change of Seasons was great. The new parts are really cool. This was the LAST show of the tour. ^The album is dead. Radio isnt playing it and no promoter wants to book them so thats it. Not even a full year of touring. James said " A change of Seasons will be out Sept 26th. And that the new album, will be out summer of 96 so....thats it.
Oh i saw Marillion last night. Unreal show. Go see them if their in your area!!
Chris
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Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 15:39:12 -0400 From: garyake@digital.net (gary ake) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Tour Dates Message-ID: <199508051939.PAA25680@ddi.digital.net>
Hey everyone this is my first time on. I'm glad to be a part of a truly elite group of people. DT is got to be one of the greatest bands to come around. I was wondering if anyone has heard of any tour dates for Florida. Also I'm a guitar player ( I have a band in Merritt Island Florida called "Slacker". We're a very heavy groove type music band. We have a CD coming out sometime either later this year or early next year.) and I was wondering if anyone has heard of any or has any Solo CDs or anything on John Petrucci.
Seeya,
Gary Ake
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Date: Sat, 5 Aug 95 15:47:54 EDT From: whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Seeing DT in the real world/people who listen to DT Message-ID: <9508051947.AA13926@mary.cs.fredonia.edu>
> Second comment: regarding the "sorts that listen to DT", I just > thought it was interesting how few females listen to it. Not just > YTSEJAM subscribers, but everywhere. I know ONE (uno, un) female that > likes DT, and even then she doesn't consider them to be highly skilled, > technical musicians...she thnks they're just a rockin' kind of a band. I > have yet to meet a female who has a deep appreciation for what DT has > brought to the world of music (excepting the couple who are on the 'Jam, > of course. Pardon me, ladies). Innyhoo, just a thought. My girlfriend LOVES them musically. The first time she heard Metropolis, she was talking about all these musical things that I had no clue what she was talking about (I'm one of the few people on here who doesn't know much about music -- I listen to it, and if I like it, I keep listening to it, that's about it. None of this polyrhythm stuff, or multiple harmony or whatever else goes on :). Just thought I'd mention that :) Chris
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Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 16:12:43 -0400 From: jforte@acl.nyit.edu (The one they call Jeff) To: Ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Megadeth Message-ID: <95080516124360@acl.nyit.edu>
>P.S. I just finished listening to Megadeth's new album. How do fellow > >jammers consider them? I mean do they fit into ,"Progressive Metal"? > > It sucks. They've sold out completely. _So Far, So Good, So What_ > could be termed prog for the time. They defined 'speed metal' as a > genre but now they're just tired and sold out. The dollar sign rules > Mustaine's brain, now.
Yeah, the new album does suck. They changed thier style for Countdown to Extinction and I though it wasnt that great but it was listenable. The new album is just bad...I couldnt even listen to the whole thing. If you want to check out a good Megadteh albume you should check out Rust in Peace...my personal favorite.
Later
________________________________________________________________________________ Jeff Forte jforte@acl.nyit.edu "Hope is epidemic, optimism spreads, bitterness breeds irritation, ignorance breeds imitation" --Rush
"Strange how laughter looks like crying with no sound; raindrops taste like tears, without the pain" --Queensryche ________________________________________________________________________________
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Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 15:41:07 -0500 From: curth@execpc.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: DT setlist compilation Message-ID: <199508052041.PAA21734@earth.execpc.com>
Hi all
I have recently decided to try and compile a list of the various set lists that Dream Theater has played from the first Majesty gigs up to the most current pre-Season Tour shows. I would really appreciate any help.
I have some DT shows (mostly on boot CD), and they give me an idea of the set list at various points on each tour. But being the stickler for accuracy that I am, I would like to know the set list played on most (if not all) dates from each tour.
I also am looking for people to also make corrections where I may have made mistakes or have gotten inaccurate info. For those who would like to help me out, please e-mail me and Ill send the list to you. Thanx in advance!
Scott Hansen curth@execpc.com
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Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 17:57:20 -0400 From: JennieBear@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Older gen's reaction to DT... Message-ID: <950805175719_48743666@aol.com>
The following appeared in Ytsejam #911:
>Someone mentioned this in a previous post... Anyway... I was wondering how many people's parents like DT... (I know this applies more to students than anyone else... )<
Hmmm...why should this apply more to students than anyone else? I graduated from UCD a year-and-a-half ago, but I'm not *ancient* <g> (FYI: I'll be 24 as of next month, and Keith is 26).
Actually, while I have introduced my parents to some music I enjoy (i.e. The Gipsy Kings, Yothu Yindi), they're both more into New Age, light jazz, and world music.
Keith plays Dream Theater for anyone he can. His supervisor at work is now a fan, as well as a co-worker. His supe is in his 30s, but the co-worker is the same age as my mom.
Today, he intends to indoctrinate a cousin (there's a family reunion of sorts happening this weekend), 41, and her hubby, 44. She may like it...Keith played stuff like Don Dokken for her before while they cruised around in his car and talked. He's familiar with and likes Kansas and such...
Jen -- "Could we see clearer in a virtual reality?" - Magellan "I am the beat of your pulse/the computer word made flesh" - Queensryche
jenniebear@aol.com kethry@netcom.com
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