YTSEJAM Digest 920
Today's Topics:
1) MIDI and DT (kinda)
by mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
2) Tab books
by mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 919
by Jeremy Peter Lakatos <jeremy@grove.ufl.EDU>
4) Teachers and DT
by Anthony <AKOZAR@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU>
5) Earplugs & Triggered Drums
by Erotomania@aol.com
6) Dream Theater WWW sites
by Timo Haanp{{ UPR <thaanpaa@ra.abo.fi>
7) RE: YTSEJAM digest 919
by "Debra D. Hanson 813-332-1969" <HANSOND@mail.firn.edu>
8) Re: DT Software/ Web Pages.....
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
9) YTSEJAM digest 918
by Erik Wolfe <71473.371@compuserve.com>
10) Win95 - OS/2 No more, please!!!
by Erik Wolfe <71473.371@compuserve.com>
11) Re: Trevor and Geoff
by Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
12) KM Demos
by Eddy Huisman <ehuisman@xs4all.nl>
13) More Yes trivia please (fwd)
by nguyen john t <jtnguyen@cs.twsu.edu>
14)
by donews!bigdog.engr.arizona.edu!ma
15) CDs for sale
by Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
16) Re: Teachers and DT
by Erotomania@aol.com
17) Most Guitars On Awake
by Erotomania@aol.com
18) Blind Melon Reference
by "Brian K. Adams" <aa467@seorf.ohiou.edu>
19) DT Cover Songs
by Michael Pomerleau <72064.614@compuserve.com>
20) Dream Theater in PRovidence
by Michael Pomerleau <72064.614@compuserve.com>
21)
by Anderson/Noah Nordrum <trek221@wn.supertrek.k12.mn.us>
22) Re: YTSEJAM digest 919
by Michael Van Opstall <mavanop@grfn.ORG>
23) Remove from the list???????????
by ytsejack@car.qc.ca
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 11:28:19 -0500
From: mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: MIDI and DT (kinda)
Message-ID: <v01510101ac53d793d34c@[199.232.46.229]>
Hairball said:
> Oh, and so this is relevant, the last class I took was a one
> week course in MIDI. The reason I mention this is because
> the Prof, who holds a PhD in Composition (I think), actually
> sat down and listened to selected parts of I&W.
Hey, that reminds me. For any of you Mac users out there with an AV or
PowerMac, I was at MacWorld Boston and saw the new version of Logic Audio
2.5 from Emagic. It now supports direct to disk recording on a Q660AV/840AV
or PowerMac. I have Q660AV and I'll be able to get 6 tracks. Since I have
Logic already, I'll upgrade for $300. That gives me a 6 track digital
recorder for less than a 4 track. Anyway, just thought some of you may be
interested. If you wanna know more, email me.
BTW, that's cool that your prof. like DT.
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Marc Respass
mer@sol.iii.net
http://www.iii.net/users/mer/Welcome.html
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 11:28:24 -0500
From: mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Tab books
Message-ID: <v01510102ac53d84fff69@[199.232.46.229]>
ZapcoDT@aol.com said:
> And what Brian W. said about the TAB - he's got a point I
> think. If you just look at the TAB and don't bother with
> the theory behind the music, how are you going to learn
> anything? How will you adapt all those cool Petrucci licks
> into your own playing without understanding how J.P. did it
> himself? Well, just my 2 cents.
Yeah, maybe, but you can still use the book as a guide. Like Brian, you can
find and correct the wrong notes. The music isn't completely wrong, more
like Guitar for the Practicing Musician - wrong notes here and there. The
thing I find most often is right notes, wrong tab! But I don't read tab so
it doesn't bother me. I think the books can be used to learn things too and
it sure saves time. Not the same as transcribing it yourself of course.
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Marc Respass
mer@sol.iii.net
http://www.iii.net/users/mer/Welcome.html
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 11:10:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jeremy Peter Lakatos <jeremy@grove.ufl.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 919
Message-ID: <199508131510.LAA09243@bay.grove.ufl.edu>
> From: imowatt@escape.ca (Ian Mowatt)
>
> What song on Drama was originally on a Buggles album? What was the name of
> the song when it was on the Buggles album? Obviously, it went by a
> different title.
"Into the Lens." It was not originally on a Buggles album. It was originally
on Drama, and when it went to the Buggles album they took the lame chorus
and made it the title: "I Am a Camera."
And on ethnicity:
"I swear I have no nation
But I'm proud to own my heart."
NP: Shadow Gallery _Carved in Stone_
-- jeremy (jeremy@grove.ufl.edu) Through Nature's inflexible grace, I'm learning to die.------------------------------
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 13:29:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Anthony <AKOZAR@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU> To: DT:;@donews.uucp Subject: Teachers and DT Message-ID: <01HU0Y4NEJAQ002G84@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU>
hey guys!
Hairball: Congrats on getting out of school... my composition and theory teacher has also been subjected to Dream Theater ( ;) ) and he has expressed liking the technicality and musicality of their writing ... his biggest complaint though was the monodynamics (ie everything is loud) ... he does have a point m but i suppose in today's world of marketing (OOPS i meant music!!) we cant expect producers to not compress music (obviously, DT's music contains inherent dynamic changes) and thus create what they perceive is best... i suppose we cant expect the guys to step over their producer on such a point (esp. if Portnoy has trouble getting the drum sound he wants like on I&W -- this compression thing is much more subtle)
anyways,
later Anthony Kozar http://www.utoledo.edu/~akozar/
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 13:44:20 -0400 From: Erotomania@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Earplugs & Triggered Drums Message-ID: <950813134419_73361907@aol.com>
First of all, as one of the "sound engineering types" on here, let me emphatically state that EVERYONE should wear earplugs at concerts. Period.
Even if it's something as "cheap" as cotton stuffed in your ears, or those really nice earplugs mentioned elsewhere, you should protect your hearing.
I was chatting with a friend who happens to be an audio engineer. He pulled out a binder, and showed me a photocopied letter that Kerry Livgren (ex-Kansas) had written to a magazine. In it, he said that the damage to his hearing was so extensive, he couldn't even hear well enough to mix the album he'd just released, and had to depend on the word of friends as to how it sounded. He closed the letter with a phrase that has stuck with me since the day I read it: "I wish I had listened to my dad in 1965 when he opened the garage door and said, 'Can't you turn it down?'"
Please - protect your ears, people!
And, regarding the question about "triggered drums." I know I covered this before - could someone put this in the FAQ file? =)
Drum triggers, as used on Images & Words, are simply the electronic replacement of an analog source with a digital sample.
There are a few different ways to utilize this technology. Essentially what happens is the drum's acoustic sound is recorded, and then run through a unit that replaces that acoustic sound with a sampled drum sound. The sample only "occurs" when it receives the signal to do so. The "signal" is the hit of the acoustic drum from the kit. In other words, the sample is "triggered" by the presence of an audio signal.
This is not to say that this is the only way it is done. However, to the best of my knowledge, it is the most common.
Simply put, when one uses drum triggers, an acoustic drum is being turned into an electronic drum. Mike's Kick Drum and Snare Drum were both electronically replaced with SAMPLED, ELECTRONIC DRUMS.
The other way to do it is to tape a sensor to the actual drum, and let the sample be "triggered" that way.
Hope this helps, -Hairball
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 22:02:09 +0300 (EET DST) From: Timo Haanp{{ UPR <thaanpaa@ra.abo.fi> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Dream Theater WWW sites Message-ID: <199508131902.WAA00107@aton.abo.fi>
Since every once in a while people seem to ask about DT WWW pages... I have a few references on my own "hot list" page (20+, I think). Check it out:
http://www.abo.fi/~thaanpaa/hotlist.html
There are also refs to Van Halen and Yngwie pages, as well as some other pages.
If you want your page to be added (or removed), just drop me some e-mail.
Timo
-- ** Timo Haanpaa * Turku, Finland **
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 15:01:15 EST From: "Debra D. Hanson 813-332-1969" <HANSOND@mail.firn.edu> To: "ytsejam@arastar.com" <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 919 Message-ID: <D1606ZVWXLHKU3*/R=FIRNVX/R=A1/U=HANSOND/@MHS>
Someone asked about Derek playing with Alice Cooper - i just read that Derek is in South America now (August) touring with Alice Cooper.
Deb
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 19:25:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: DT Software/ Web Pages..... Message-ID: <199508132325.TAA02203@wicked.stigmata.org>
Cool ... more plugs :)
I have the Dream Theater Interactive on my DT Home Page at http://www.dreamt.org
I also have links to all of the other DT WWW sites that I know of. If I missed any, send me some mail and I will add them right away.
Skadz
1/2 Irish, 1/2 Norwegian, Catholic.... ummm I think that's all that has been asked. Ohhh Grew up on Long Island. Dunno of that one was asked, but I'll add it anyway :)
-- =-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_= | | "Seize the day | | Ryan P. Skadberg | I heard him say | | skadz@bluesky.net | life will not always be this way | | System Administrator | look around, and hear the sound | | Blue Sky Inc. | another time like this can't be found" | | | "A Change Of Seasons" - Dream Theater | =-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_= | http://www.bluesky.net/skadz | =-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_=
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Date: 13 Aug 95 19:21:09 EDT From: Erik Wolfe <71473.371@compuserve.com> To: "INTERNET:ytsejam@arastar.com" <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: YTSEJAM digest 918 Message-ID: <950813232108_71473.371_CHU88-2@CompuServe.COM>
Brian Wherry
If you'd stop being so goddamn condescending and open your eyes, I never said I believed anything the tab book says. Not once in any post did I say I took "tab" books as the gospel of guitar playing. Quite the contrary...
I don't read tab, I find it to be useless and above all, cheating. I vehemently discourage my students from using it. Since I transcribed the "Awake" album, I've developed a clearer picture of DT. And yes, it was done before I got the songbook. <Much better reference than "Tab" book>
So, I'm well aware of the glaring errors found both in songbooks AND the tab posted on the net. I've transcribed WDADU, I&W and AWAKE and am currently finishing <To Live> Forever/ Moon Bubbles from the Music In Progress video.
I'm not saying what I posted is CORRECT. I've tried a few different time counts and I feel what is published in the songbook, and what I transcribed, feel THE MOST COMFORTABLE to me as a player. If another time signature feels comfortable to someone else, so be it. I'm not going to argue over something as petty and insignifigant as a bloody time signature.
So, to sum up...I don't read tab, 9 time out of 10, there is at least 2 errors in it anyway.
Enough arguing, let's get back to the heart of the matter <no pun intended>... DT discussions...
"Better to save the mystery, than surrender to the secret" -- Dream Theater "Another Day" ------------------------- Erik
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Date: 13 Aug 95 19:43:54 EDT From: Erik Wolfe <71473.371@compuserve.com> To: "INTERNET:ytsejam@arastar.com" <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Win95 - OS/2 No more, please!!! Message-ID: <950813234353_71473.371_CHU88-3@CompuServe.COM>
Both on the same system??? Like OS/2 for Windows....a definite contradiction!
Anyways...here's my DT content....trivia questions...
1> a) What song on Awake has the most meter shifts ? b) How many ? 2> What song off "Awake" has the most guitars used in it <all - 6&7 st.> ?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Likely or not, it's a dream that we keep and at odds with our senses we'll climb. But if faith is the answer, we've already reached it and if spirit's a sign, then it's Only a Matter of Time" Kevin Moore - Only A Matter Of Time
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 20:38:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: Trevor and Geoff Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950813203645.17384C-100000@oak.liii.com>
On Sat, 12 Aug 1995, Ian Mowatt wrote:
> > What song on Drama was originally on a Buggles album?
Actually, it appeared on DRAMA first. Even though the Buggles was the original version, it was released after DRAMA.
> What was the name of > the song when it was on the Buggles album? Obviously, it went by a > different title.
Into The Lens- Yes I Am A Camera- Buggles
Andy
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 22:05:06 +0200 From: Eddy Huisman <ehuisman@xs4all.nl> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: KM Demos Message-ID: <199508132005.AA15733@xs1.xs4all.nl>
Hello Jammers....
Last week I got a tape with this on it :
Kevin Moore demos -----------------
from "Kev's stuff"
Song for Eric ( For Tori ) Space-Dye Vest (demo) Blanket
from "Found Drowned"
Hollow Roll away the Stone Shallow
from "Really Wet Songs"
Normal Words Nora Even the Waves Sun Orange, Small
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So I've got only the titles and no info.
What I really would like to know is from what year these demos are and who's playing on them. Also I really would like to see the lyrics.
If anyone's got this info for me or knows where to find this please mail me....you could make me a happy man.
Oh..and by the way, I'm 27, married, have got a baby daughter 3 months old and I'm all Dutch.
Cya __ **********************************************\\\ __ * Eddy Huisman (ehuisman@xs4all.nl) *\\\/// ************************************************\XX/
* Offline Orbit 0.75a *
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 21:51:13 -0500 (CDT) From: nguyen john t <jtnguyen@cs.twsu.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: More Yes trivia please (fwd) Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950813215102.19763A@emcity>
---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 13:07:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Dietrick Miller <ytsejam@UDel.Edu> To: "John T. Nguyen" <jtnguyen@kirk.cs.twsu.edu> Subject: More Yes trivia please
"Into the Lens" on the Drama album by YES, was originally released by the Buggles on the ablum "The Age of Plastic" under the title of "I am a Camera". Anymore Yes trivia--- make it hard. :)
Andy
Andrew Miller ytsejam@strauss.udel.edu University Of Delaware V-mail (302) 831-4000 ext.87397 ******************************* If I stood on your shoulder and wispered in your ear, Truth is you still won't hear. -echolyn
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 20:30:28 -0700 From: donews!bigdog.engr.arizona.edu!ma To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Message-ID: <9508140330.AA10546@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
X-Personal_Name: Fernando Ma From: fma@vms.ccit.arizona.edu Subject: asdf
subscribe ytsejam Fernando Ma.
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 23:32:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: CDs for sale Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950813233121.22697B-100000@oak.liii.com>
I have one copy of each of the following for sale:
Mind Control- $40 ppd Dream Out Loud- $17 ppd
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 23:33:01 -0400 From: Erotomania@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Teachers and DT Message-ID: <950813233255_54038750@aol.com>
X-From: AKOZAR@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU (Anthony)
QUOTING: his biggest complaint though was the monodynamics...i suppose we cant expect the guys to step over their producer on such a point ----------------------------------------------------- Well, the thing is, on I&W, there isn't a whole lot of drum compression going on...well, there *IS*, but, the kick & snare are sampled. (see posts elsewhere)
I mean, I think awake demonstrates a great deal more in terms of dynamics, just from the recording aspect.
'Nuff for now, -Hairball, B.A. Communications: Temple Univ., 1995
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 23:35:59 -0400 From: Erotomania@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Most Guitars On Awake Message-ID: <950813233558_54040656@aol.com>
I'm actually going to go with Innocence Faded, simply because there's a double tracked acoustic guitar during parts of it, plus the solo guitars, and the heavy rythyms (double tracked), and some clean guitar. =)
..and you wonder why they don't play all of it live? =)
Later, -Hairball
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 00:16:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brian K. Adams" <aa467@seorf.ohiou.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Blind Melon Reference Message-ID: <199508140416.AAA11091@ra.cs.ohiou.edu>
I am responding to a post that mentioned Blind Melon recently. I am in no way trying any of this flame business and in no way mean any disrespect to any of the ytsejammers who mention and/or like Blind Melon. Ok, enough of the disclaimer business.
The reference to Blind Melon was a reference to their drummer being left handed. This is a reprint of the "In The Listening Room" with Blind Melon in January, 1994's Guitar For The Practicing Musician
"Pull Me Under" Dream Theater
CHRISTOPHER: This could be metal at any moment-I'm just warning everybody. ROGERS: Either that or it could build up into a power ballad. CHRISTOPHER: I feel like we might have to excuse ourselves here for a second. We might have to leave. ROGERS: This is one of those guitar sounds that when he hits a note, about a million lights jump up on his guitar rig. CHRISTOPHER: Any minute now there is going to be a squealy. ROGERS: Is this like Queensryche? CHRISTOPHER: If it is, let's turn it off right away because I hate that band. ROGERS: Hate it. This is the kind of music you listen to right when you start to get your pubic hairs. CHRISTOPHER: I can't even be fair to this music because I hate it so bad. I can't even sit through one song. I know I'm not being fair but I think it is complete garbage. That sort of guitar playing is just stupid. ROGERS: If I want to hear a metal band I rally like old Black Sabbath and Soundgarden; heavy bands with brains. If I were listening to an angry metal band I would be more into Rage Against The Machine or Sugar. I like the Sugar record a lot, I like Sonic Youth a lot. That's heavy, guitar based music that I listen to. CHRISTOPHER: Playing fast for the sake of fast is hideous. I hate that whole mentality of sitting around playing scales and cock-rock crap. ROGERS: I heard some squealies. I don't really like that sound either. I'm not into those guitar sounds. When I hear that stuff I get squeamish. GUITAR: THAT WAS DREAM THEATER. CHRISTOPHER: We'll remember not to buy that record. I bet they have really nice hair though....Now I'm being mean ROGERS: This is just our opinion. There's a lot of people that like Dream Theater and that's fine. They get off on it-good for them. They probably hate us, maybe they won't. CHRISTOPHER: They probably do because we sound like were playing sloppy. But that's alright, it's just a different thing. We're just coming from a different space. ROGERS: In no way do we condemn this sort of music. These people have the right to exist. CHRISTOPHER: Just keep them the hell away from us.
END.
Now, needless to say I personally was not a Blind Melon fan but after these comments who would ever give them a chance. If anyone read the interview with JP a few months later he had nothing but nice things to say about Blind Melon...(If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all)
Lost in the sky, Brian Adams (Yes, that is my real name and no I'm not that Brian Adams) --
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Date: 14 Aug 95 00:20:15 EDT From: Michael Pomerleau <72064.614@compuserve.com> To: <YtseJam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: DT Cover Songs Message-ID: <950814042015_72064.614_GHB60-2@CompuServe.COM>
While everyone is discussing what songs they would like to see Dream Theater do covers for I have two Points.
1. To everyone discussing how much they want to see Metallicas "Damage, Inc." on the EP. don't forget that there may be a lot of legal obstacles preventing them from doing so! One more justification for getting rid of all the lawyers in the country.
2. The song that I would like to see Dream Theater do (And I know that I will get over a thousand flames for saying it) would be Strypers "Soldiers Under Command" I would love to see John Petrucci Re-Interpret the Dual Guitars on that song, with Myung and Portnoy doing the same. Hearing James Labrie sing the Harmonies that Stryper used on that song would be pretty Wild. I would love to hear that song redone.
Bracing myself for the Anti-Stryper flames
- Michael Pomerleau, Written 14-Aug-1995 @ 00:13:43 Using: Windows NavCIS PRO 1.62
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Date: 14 Aug 95 00:20:29 EDT From: Michael Pomerleau <72064.614@compuserve.com> To: <Ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Dream Theater in PRovidence Message-ID: <950814042029_72064.614_GHB60-3@CompuServe.COM>
I saw the Providence Show. I am from CT and drove 3 hours to see it and 3 hours back. I was home at 4:00am and had to go to work at 8:00am the next day, but it was worth it. Here's my Take.
The show was approx 2-1/2 hours. Started at 11:00 and ended at 1:30. It was awesome. The sound was not great, but that was not a reflection of how well the band played, it reflect on the guy in the sound booth, the acoustic quality of the club, the amplifiers, and one thing that most people dont realize is that your location is important(What the guy in the sound booth hears, may be completely different then what you hear). But I wish they would not play everything SO LOUD. They are great muscians who don't need to play that loud to be impressive. As they played PMU towards the end, they turned up the sound, and it sounded TERRIBLE.
A Change of Seasons was awesome. Didn't hear the "F" word. The intro was different, but the intro on the subcon CD was still there they just added another into in front of it. I cant wait to hear this on the EP!!!!
James Labrie Voice was OUTSTANDING. However, I wish he would SING more during concerts. He tends to scream alot, in places that he does not scream on the album.
The set list mentioned earlier I beleive was correct, but the order was wrong. But that is not important.
Derek was great!! although difficult to hear at times. I think many people here are too hard on him. He has a different style than Kevin, and hopefully this will add a new dimension to the band. I became a DT fan becuasue the Keys caught my ear, and I was very sad to see Kevin leave the band. And Dereks Solo was AWESOME!!!! Am I the only person who noticed that the Heavy Ending to the solo was none other then VanHalens "Eruption" played on Keys. When I mentioned it to the people standing around me, they also noticed it!!!
Acoustic Wait for Sleep was Awesome. Also John Petrucci played the really fast part on "Erotomania" with ease (The part after the little Bach piece).
Perfect Strangers was the first encore, and it was great. I am guessing this will be the single for the EP(Since, I know MY RADIO STATION, does not play too many 23 minute songs <G>).
P.S.: To all of you discussing the fact that Derek has short hair. Who the Hell Cares? I want to hear him play music, not sleep with him. I mean I could care less what DT looks like, as long as they produce good music. Maybe you should go buy a couple of Milli-Vanilli albums, they did not sing, but they had "Cute Hair"
- Michael Pomerleau, Written 14-Aug-1995 @ 00:17:50 Using: Windows NavCIS PRO 1.62
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 23:30:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Anderson/Noah Nordrum <trek221@wn.supertrek.k12.mn.us> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9508132300.A21318-0100000@wn.supertrek.k12.mn.us>
Sorry I started the Win95 OS\2 thing. I was just trying to answer a question that I thought someone would be able to answer. I have my answer so everybody drop anymore comments about that unless they are sent directly to me.
Thanks, Noah
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:39:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Van Opstall <mavanop@grfn.ORG> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 919 Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.950814093455.5645A-100000@freenet.grfn.org>
Hey -
Thanks to Tim Lodge for hookin' me up w/InstruMental I + II (which are both pretty good (esp. II w/YYZ, Farandole, and ACOS), but most especially the Majesty demos. Whew! Those things rule. It's sort of odd that one of my favorite songs of late is from an unreleased album recorded by a bunch of 18 year olds in 1986 (A Vision).
Long songs - Someone mentioned Trilogy of Knowledge by Believer - Singularity is also on the second side of the tape, but I believe that the entire album is over an hour long (if you have the cassette, take a look at how much tape is stuffed in that thing). Kurt Bachman has said it's a half hour long or so. I like ACOS because it's not divided into movements like other long songs (although I like that too) such as 2112, Close to the Edge (which I can't say anything bad about) or Trilogy of Knowledge.
Someone mentioned Veni Domine's epic effort. I'm so disappointed. I saw the album once and was going to buy it but decided to wait. Now I can't find it anywhere.
M.A. VanOpstall mavanop@grfn.org
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Date: 14 Aug 1995 13:51:35 GMT From: ytsejack@car.qc.ca To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Remove from the list??????????? Message-ID: <270462942.659569@car.qc.ca>
>You have been removed from list ytsejam@arastar.com. >Thanks for being with us.
I think their's a error..........I never wanted to be remouve from the list........I realy enjoy the Ytsejam list!....... Please, give me some explanations..........Please take me back!
Thanks.
THE JACK R*c *R*c ytsejack@car.qc.ca
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