YTSEJAM Digest 1183
Today's Topics:
1) OOPS!!!!!!!!
by BURGER KING EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH <jccrowder@postman.harding.edu>
2) Ytse IRC
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu>
3) music den
by kristopher long <long16@matrix.newpaltz.edu>
4) Bitching, Complaining, Whining
by larsh@infinity-online.com (Lars Hellsten)
5) 33 Morsels (Answers)
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
6) AD
by srvrip@qualcomm.com (John Hough)
7) Just Checking In
by dneff@maaco.com (David Neff)
8) drip, drip, drip
by laussade@enet.net (The Ytsejammer from Hell)
9) MIDWEST DT CON....96.
by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
10) HATS IN THIS WEEK..order now!
by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
11) Malibu Tix for sale
by Elliott Kim <ekim01@fiu.edu>
12)
by LRW <sir@micron.net>
13) ARGHHHH
by Ldyicefire@aol.com
14) BAFU IS SUSAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by fates@ix.netcom.com (Carlo D'Angelo )
15) IRC and EGOS
by WarrenDW@aol.com
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1179
by Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1179
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu>
18) Richard Karsmakers
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
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Date: Tue, 05 Dec 1995 18:40:10 CST
From: BURGER KING EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH <jccrowder@postman.harding.edu>
To: YTSEJAM@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: OOPS!!!!!!!!
Message-ID: <0099A6C9.920A0D60.103@postman.harding.edu>
Oh boy! I'm sorry guys, but I accidentally sent the entire freakin' last
jam with my last post :^{ (that's a concerned face :) Well, that oughtta fill
the bandwidth for that jam.
My bad,
Chris
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* Chris Crowder * Dream Theater, Rush, Alice in Chains, *
* HU Box #596 * Queensyrche, Genesis, Metallica, *
* Searcy, AR 72149-0001 * Silverchair, Clint Black, Blues Traveler *
* * *** and the list goes on *** *
* <jccrowder@harding.edu> * *
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Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 18:37:01 -0500 (EST)
From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Ytse IRC
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9512051812.B263-0100000@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu>
Alrighty folks, it's been a long and wild ride...and a lot of pissy
attitudes have crossed paths...but NOW it's time to declare triumph for
YTSEJAMMER'S ALL over the world. We now have our OWN Dream Theater IRC
server!!! For right now you can get there by joining any normal IRC
session, and typing /server irc.wezl.org and then you can discuss,
create...whatever Any DT related topic you want!!! Make your own channels
on WDATU, or AD...make a channel about Rush vs DT...whatever you want!!!
Now is YOUR chance to have FUN on YOUR DT-related channel!!! C-ya
there!!! (as of tomorrow you will also be able to get there by typing
/server dream.wezl.org)
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According to the circle of fifths, and the order of sharps and flats:
If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sigs) (i.e.
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major would have
4 sharps.
StatisticZ show that if a person is born with Perfect Pitch, chances are
they will grow up to be a famous...Baseball Player!!! :)
"Just Lighten up and listen to the Music" -Kevin Moore (inside joke)
Eric Moegling: afn22909@freenet.ufl.edu
emoeglin@mail.coin.missouri.edu
NEW HOMEPAGE!!!!
http://www.wezl.org/NuGgeTMaN
fOr MoRE nFo AboUT mE fIngEr: emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu
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Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 16:04:17 -0500 (EST)
From: kristopher long <long16@matrix.newpaltz.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: music den
Message-ID: <199512052104.QAA03472@matrix.newpaltz.edu>
For any of the islanders out there, someone told me that somebody from DT
worked at Music Den in Commack, is that true? That store is really good,
I've bought all my DT stuff there and they've got a better selection than
most stores. Oh, here's something cool too. I know this kid who's a DJ,
and he said he was working on a Kings Park High reunion for the class of 85,
and someone gave him a tape of Pull Me Under and asked him to play it. They
told him that JP was there and he got to meet him and get his autograph.
How fucking cool is that! Just thought I'd share that with ya. Later.
---KL
"My Daddy he disowned me cause I wear my sister's clothes
He caught me in the bathroom with a pair of pantyhose"
---Scatterbrain "Earache My Eye"
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Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 19:11:17 -0500
From: larsh@infinity-online.com (Lars Hellsten)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Bitching, Complaining, Whining
Message-ID: <199512060011.TAA00921@infinity>
Something short for a change.
Have any of you idiots who've just felt compelled for whatever reason to
flame the list, and bitch and whine about the content ever stopped to
consider that it's just as annoying to get a jam filled with 15 idiots
whining about the lack of DT content, or that "The list now sux", than it is
to get a jam filled with all kinds of irrelevant religious debate?
I'm a hypocrite for even writing this mesasge, but I don't see any other way
to make my point other than e-mailing all of these whiners individually (no
thanks). In conclusion: STOP THE WHINING FOR FUCK'S SAKE! If you don't
like the content, unsubscribe, or don't say anything. Just accept the fact
that every now and then an off-topic thread will arise, that -someone-
inevitably won't like. I think there are FAR more off-topic messages
generated by messages like this than there are by other things that at least
stem from something DT related.
Ytse-Lars
-- Lars Hellsten <*> "Once I reached for love, and larsh@infinity-online.com <*> now I reach for life" http://infinity-online.com/~larsh/ <*> - Dream Theater------------------------------
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 15:56:09 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: 33 Morsels (Answers) Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91j.951205155442.113923D-100000@homer05.u.washington.edu>
"If you see something that just isn't true, please let me know." --Mike Bahr
"Will AL BALKIEWICZ ever send me the tapes he has owed me for nine months?????" --Pat Daugherty
"I'm a "girl!" What about me?" --Jodi
"My evil side exposed." --Hairball
"d00d." --Nuggetman
"The Rock is steady." --Michael Coghlan
"Please refer to the set of guidelines you received upon subscribing." --Ken Bibb
"bassist, INTROSPECTION" --Sean Haider
"Actually, I think ay FOUNDITSA CAUDAP WIMAAAYYY!!" --Bafu Vai
"In closing--the list now sucks!" --Ryan Benedict
" " --The Digital Man
"Ride more rollercoasters!!!" --Buck
"I AM OFFENDED!" --Margaret Pluta
"It will be the last thing you do with teeth in your head." --The Digital Man
"You're all a bunch of mimes!" --Kennedy
"Duh, okay Stalin." --Mike Stover
"I simply refuse to wear a sock on my head." --Elliott Kim
"You're the MERCY FUCK, ASSHOLE." --JIMMY
"4 bloody victims! AH AH!" --Baron Sengir
"Look what the list dragged in." --Airdance
"Toxic Waltzer? Where the hell did you come up with that stupid name?" --Damon Fibraio
"On the Eve of Destruction..." --Dr. Mosh
"Oh, no, that is that Kraut from Germany again." --Roland Theysohn
"I tap my icy manipulator! You can't talk!" --Jam
"You're one real bad-assed mf. Are you a spitter?" --Scott Cook
"Stay safe and happy listening." --Neil Gallop
"Hello everyone, it's ****." --BABS
"aka No More aka's." --Ben Laussade
"I'm feelin' kinda spooky." --John Myung
"I think spontaNUity." --John Petrucci
"I need something smaller." --Kevin Moore
"I try to look at the audience as little as possible." --James LaBrie
"I feel like I'm someone's dinner entertainment." --Mike Portnoy
Bafu Vai
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Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 15:43:31 -0800 From: srvrip@qualcomm.com (John Hough) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: AD Message-ID: <199512052343.PAA20555@wizard.qualcomm.com>
Hey all,
Just got my AD disc the other day!!!!!!!!
Mike is god! Thanks so much! This cd is incredible!!!
I will agree with just about everyone else that Another Day really sucks! JP is messing up everywhere and what is with James?
LSOAD is incredible as is Tears!
What is the deal with Long IE? Where did this come from?
Is there a liner note .txt available for this disc?
Also what is the last song???
Oh yeah, George Fan's cover is awesome!
Later all!
John Hough - srvrip@qualcomm.com
"Suddenly in his head he heard David Lee Roth bawling: 'Oh Iyyyyy...ain't got nobody'...and this time he *did* laugh. He couldn't help it." -Stephen King, The Drawing Of The Three
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Date: Tue, 05 Dec 1995 18:46:24 -0500 From: dneff@maaco.com (David Neff) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com ('on-line "Ytse-Jammers"') Subject: Just Checking In Message-ID: <1995Dec05.183600.1059.2718@smtp.maaco.com>
Hi-diddely-ho Jammerinos,
Ok Mike Bahr, I'll get off my lazy backside and post something. :) I just got my long-awaited AD #393 yesterday (12/4) and it sounds great! Thanks. And a Magic card to boot - Woohoo!! Now all I need to do is find out what the heck this "Magic" thing is ...
I heard Ian Anderson doing Bafu's -er- BACH'S Bouree in Em.
Does anybody have any idea why DT hasn't made a big official release of "O Holy Night" yet? If DT wants 'to live forever', that seems like a good way to go. What I'm thinking of is Billy Squier and his "Christmas is a time to say I love you" tune (it's on the radio now). Billy seems to have gone away, yet the radio stations seem to love that and other similar songs come December, year after year. I think a Subcon style studio recorded OHN could be a huge radio hit and introduce them to a lot of people! How about a whole CD of xmas songs done by metal bands? :)
I'm 92.7% sure I'll be at Birch Hill - see ya there!
- Dave (dneff@maaco.com)
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Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 20:08:02 -0700 From: laussade@enet.net (The Ytsejammer from Hell) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: drip, drip, drip Message-ID: <199512060308.UAA13820@maple.enet.net>
"-ger, the sightlessness of hatred slips away Walking through winter streets alone he stops and takes a breath with confidence and self control
i look at the world and see no understanding i'm waiting to find some sense of strength i'm begging you from the bottom of my heart to show me understanding
i need to live life like some people never will so find me kindess find me beauty find me truth when temptation brings me to my knees and i lay here drained of strength show me kindness show me beauty show me truth
The way your heart sounds makes all the difference and decides if you'll endure the pain that we all feel the way your heart beats makes all the difference in Learning to Live here before me is my soul i'm learning to live i wont give up till i've no more to give
listening to the city whispering it's violence i set out watching from above the 90s bring new questions new solutions to be found i fell in love to be let down
once again we dance in the crowd at times a step away from a common fear that's all spread out it won't listen to what you say once you're touched you stand alone to face the bitter fight once i reached for love now i reach for life
another chance to lift my lift to free the sensation in my heart to ride the wings of dreams into changing horizons it brings inner peace within my mind as i'm lifted from where i spilt my life i hear and innocent voice i hear kindness, beauty and truth
the way your heart sounds makes all the difference and decides if you'll endure the pain that we all feel the way your heart beats makes all the difference in Learning to Live
spread before you is your soul so forever hold the dreams within our hearts through nature's inflexible grace i'm learning to-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What're you doing? Get outta here! I'm in the SHOWER!!!!!"
Geez. Can't a guy get some PRIVACY around here???
Ben Laussade
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Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 21:11:32 -0500 From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: MIDWEST DT CON....96. Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.15.12.5.-11.11.32.5268.19541@clubmet.metrobbs.com>
If things work out like planned there should be a YtSEJAM CON in the midwest during the 96 DT tour. We can all cross our fingers?!?!
I'm kinda bumed...my car broke down on me tonight(sigh). I hate that! Had to get a tow. (just had to bitch alittle bit!
see ya
todd market@clubmet.com
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Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 21:15:34 -0500 From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: HATS IN THIS WEEK..order now! Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.15.12.5.-11.15.34.13208.18101@clubmet.metrobbs.com>
Hats come in this week! It should be Thursday or friday!!
Not too many people ordered a DT hat yet. I know some of you are waiting to see pictures. That means..your chances are greater to win one of the prizes!!!!
Again...I am sorry for the delay on everything(pictures..etc..etc). The hat design is classy. Can't find a hat like this anywhere!
SKADS AT BLUESKY) The pictures should be to you on WED!! write me...your bluesky.com addresss seems its not working?? write me. thx!!
Todd market@clubmet.com
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Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 22:23:04 -0500 (EST) From: Elliott Kim <ekim01@fiu.edu> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Malibu Tix for sale Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.951205220506.10896D-100000@solix>
I have two (2) tickets to the Malibu show for sale. I'll do this on a first-come-first-serve basis. E-mail me _directly_ please!
However, I do not actually have the tickets in my hands right now. I only ordered them last week and TicketBastard sure takes their sweet time. But I will send them ASAP, priority mail, FedEx or whatever we work out.
BAFU VAI <- the by-now obligatory Bafu Vai content.
See ya all at Birch Hill, though! :)
Elliott Kim, Florida International University ekim01@fiu.edu
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Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 20:29:11 -0700 From: LRW <sir@micron.net> To: 'ytsejam' <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Message-ID: <01BAC350.58B58100@cs010p04.twf.micron.net>
Congrats to Gilbert and WildKoba for the correct trivia answer Steve Vai did the PCU soundtrack. Lame movie, but cool tunes...
I just realized that I have IRC access. When is everyone on it?
For those interested, I'm LDS. If anyone would like more information, just drop me a line.
CRAIG (Dyed in the wool, true blue, through and through) WUTHRICH
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Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 22:36:29 -0500 From: Ldyicefire@aol.com To: Ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: ARGHHHH Message-ID: <951205222237_65103368@mail02.mail.aol.com>
Please...Just give it up.... Male vocalist female vocalist... A good singer is a good singer. End of story..Anyone who wants to fight me on that fact..Let me send you my CD!!!!!!!PLUS James is one of the best out there...stop pivking on his voice. Love and lust, Heather of Dragonlady (alias the YstejamBitch)
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Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 20:04:12 -0800 From: fates@ix.netcom.com (Carlo D'Angelo ) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: BAFU IS SUSAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <199512060404.UAA21453@ix12.ix.netcom.com>
Hehe....I just had to after I read Bafu's post. I post regularly ( at least I like to think I do) and I usually don't write short ones offering praise but I JUST HAD TO! For the first time the Jam had me laughing my ass off in front of my monitor......Kudos to Bafu (or how 'bout Butterfingers?)
Great idea BTW about EVERYONE showing up at his house...shit..I'll even make the trip over from Queens just so I can crack all his CD covers and shit..how 'bout we all have frisbee contests with 'em???
Gotta go (last day 'o finals in ONE week...muuuuhahahaah)
cheers, Carlo
currently playing: DAMN THE MACHINE "Damn the Machine" -- | [] | |] | ******* ** | [] | |] | "For one flickering moment, he seemed to catch | [| an image, one he found both exciting and disturbing: | [] | |] | an enormous tower constructed of dark and sooty ****** ** ** stone, standing in a field of red roses. Slit ** **** ** windows twisted up its sides in a brooding spiral." |] | | [| | [] | "Go then, there are other worlds than these." |] | ** *** *** ** --Stephen King ** **** **** (The Gunslinger: Dark Tower series)
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 00:02:36 -0500 From: WarrenDW@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: IRC and EGOS Message-ID: <951206000235_126301808@mail06.mail.aol.com>
HEY BEN....welcome back! I don't know why you opted to unsubscribe...but glad to see you are back!
Of course NugGeTMan is now an official asshole. I hated reading his posts anyway...The mixture of CAPS and normal type, plus the spelling etc. was/is really tiresome. Not cute at all..........
Regarding the DT baseball caps...I ordered 3 of the Ytsejam T shirts and received them 2 weeks ago...TOP quality and great graphics...if the caps are like the t-shirts, and I am sure that they are, get them while you can!!
As far as Michael C. and GOD/ and or JESUS references go.....Hey Richard Karsmakens!! you say you don't believe in God and have "valid reasons"...fine!! Just keep your bullshit off the Ytsejam...and E-mail him directly. I can tolerate your ignorance....once or twice...from now on just E-mail your ignorance direct! OK??
DT content...Mike Bahr is really Mike Portnoy...HAIRBALL is John Petrucci, and I am the screamer in Live at the Marquee...prove me wrong :) Warren in Oregon Warren in Oregon...with the DT Fan Club shaft buried deep where the sun don't shine.
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Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 21:13:29 PST From: Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1179 Message-ID: <199512060515.FAA26913@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net>
** Reply to note from ytsejam@arastar.com 12/05/95 7:11pm +0800
--Fates can be slightly more mellow than DT, but Zonder is a --drummer who's up there with Portnoy,
Zonder is subtle but I always thought that ZOnder was better than Portnoy. Portnoy is amzing yes but after listening to No EXit, shit, I gotta say that my vote goes for ZOnder. Its the way he plays, I mean, He's doin one beat with the double bass drum and he's got some funky thing goin on with his snare and the ride cymbol is goin crazy. Zonder to me, is a busy drummer.
though his style is more --subtile. The twin guitar leads (esp. on ||s) are really --fantastic---- a Fates trademark.
The twin leads, well, Fates warning has constantly reminded me of Iron Maiden, and I think that FW's twin Leads are Dave Murray and Adrian Smith on guitar steriouds. Technically, Fates Warning are smarter than Maiden(ouch, that hurt to say that) but I think Maiden, for them, its a style thing, kinda like the Rolling Stones have style for makin rock and roll what is (with help) but Maiden is kinda the Rolling Stones of twin harmonies, FW is a contuation of what Maiden was doin, way back when. Still, both bands kick major ass(new maiden fuckin smokes)
I think Fates is one of the --best bands that never hit it big, for some reason. I'd put them --on par with Queensryche.
I'd put FW with DT, just not makin it big, unfortunate but hey, none of these little teenager dudes want the operatic vocals or the 8 to 10 minute long songs, they want this Punk and new wave bullshit.
thats My $28,729,402.12
Does anyone know if there are Sites to get FW or DT bass lines on the web? and has anyone seen or know of any maiden Bass sites, not guitar, Bass.
Mark
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ If you had the time to lose, an open mind and time to chose. Would you care to take a look or can you read me like a book. -Iron Maiden'86 "Caught somehwere in time"
email at msmeets@ibm.net
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 00:24:11 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1179 Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.951205233358.136524A-100000@moose.uvm.edu>
> > > >"God only exists in the minds of humans" -jjj > > Jon: > > I think you have that backwards. The absence of God exists only in the > mind of non-spiritual humans. One must realize we have at least 3 > areas of growth in our lives they we need to nurture.
+++Shit. I promised myself that I wouldn't join in on theological discussions. But since I just wrote a paper on the subject, I can't help myself. Mike, I'm only going to say this once: spirituality DOES NOT equal belief in God. It can take that form, but it is not a necessary relationship. Hinduism, for example, does not believe in a God in the western sense, yet I would hardly call these people devoid of spirituality.
> 2. Mental/Emotional - We need to mature as we grow older, become less > "me" oriented. We are all preoccupied with ourselves from birth, > change my diaper feed me etc..) We need to learn mental disipline > and consideration of others needs. We go the schools of higher > learning so we can become viable contributers to society and become > gainfully employed. During the process we hopefully learn that > Love is life and hate is death. Learning to Live, have you heard > that song? :) > +++I'm a bit confused with the Love/life and hate/death point. Explain yourself.
> 3. Spiritual - This is an area a lot of people overlook. We by nature > are spritual beings and have a need (though some of us suppress it), > to understand life beyond the natural. The natural being what we > can hear, see, smell, feel, and taste. The easy thing for us to do > is to ignore the signs that there is a God, but if you look and not > to hard they are very obvious.
+++This is exactly what my paper was on. First of all, when dealing with God, there is no such thing as objective proof in either direction. It all depends on whose doing the looking. One man's miracle is another's cosmic coincidence. Confirmation comes too easy for relgious theories. Religion does not limit what can and can not be attributed to it. Everything from a promotion to a miscarrige can be attributed to God's punishment or reward. If a believer in any broad discipline (astrology, Marxism, etc.) can open up a newspaper and explain every event in terms of his given theory, how seriously can we take the theory? It is not the confirmation of a theory which attests to its accuracy, it is its ability to be refuted. What I mean by this is that if there is no way for it to ever to be proven wrong, short of God himself coming down and stopping by for a slice of pie, it is no longer a theory but an opinion. And the nature of opinions dictate neutrality. In short, one can equally argue that it is hard to dismiss all the "evidence" that there is NOT a God.
The signs of the existance of God is > beyond the scope of my commentary. Even one of our favorite bands > writes about the existance of God. You may say you are an atheist > but I KNOW deep down in your soul (unless you're not human) that you > know there is a higher power.
+++I'll say it again, why does God have to be that higher power? One might make a very good case is that higher power can be found within yourself.
> I was once an atheist, but obviously that's changed. I've spent a > lot of time pondering the existance of God and to turn my head to > what life has shown me in regard to the living God would be > utter foolishness. I'll be glad to mail you my testimony if your > interested (I'm still working on it for other jammers who are > interested. I posted this to the jam because I don't want it to be > seen by your eyes only. > ++++If you've found God, great. Tell him to stop by my place for beer. I've got a bone or two to pick with him. But seriously, I'm envious. I wish I could place my life and morality in the hands of an unseen deity. But I guess I'm just not that trusting a person.
> For those of you who may think I'm preaching - I'm not, I'm teaching > PLEASE make the distinction. > > +++I've never had the opportunity to quote myself beforem so just can't resist:
"The line between winning and sinning And preaching and teaching Is as thin as the horizon." -from a song I wrote called "Hell It Is." Don't even think about ripping me off, I'm protected :) (as if anyone would want to anyway).
> God Bless You All, > > Michael C. > > +++Thanks. It's about time.
Richie
P.S. This is going to be my first and last post on the subject, I promise. >
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Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 21:57:31 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Richard Karsmakers Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91j.951205211356.77041E-100000@homer29.u.washington.edu>
> From: "Richard Karsmakers" <r.c.karsmakers@stud.let.ruu.nl> > Subject: A variety of notes (especially on Christianity) and maybe a new > thread > > I am sick and tired of it!
Me too. But being the polite person that I am, let's hear what you're sick and tired of first.
> Last but not least I'd like to tell you that Ytsejam is the only mailing > list that I am still not unsubscribing from after weeks of such intense > output. The Rush mailing list was 30 Kb per day and that was simply too > long for me. Ytsejam, however, is different. And I think it's people > like Ben and Bafu that do it.
I'm not quite following you, Richard. Are you saying that Ben and I add to the shortness of the Ytsejams and make it a more digestable digest, or that we make it too long with our intense output?
> To Michael C.: > > I don't believe in god or any god for that matter, and I have valid > reasons for that.
You don't believe that John Petrucci exists?
> It sounds silly to say "buddha, that music sucks".
Considering that there are parts of the world where religious blasphemy will get you killed, yeah, it sure is silly. Ha ha ha.
> You're like a jack-in-the-box, popping up to defend christian morale
That's "Ytsejack-in-the-box."
> Don't you realise that you're predictable and boring?
Hmmm...if I'm part of the problem like Michael Coghlan, am I predictable and boring too? Is Ben Laussade predictable and boring?
> Gee, man, if only your signature was at the beginning of your messages > I'd know what to skip right away.
Hence the reason I have no signature. I am the Stealth-Jammer.
> You always go on about the fact that we ought to respect your opinions > and beliefs, and we do.
As evidenced by your post in praise of Michael Coghlan.
> Why do you think people who say rather un-religious things have any need > to hear what you think of it?
I can't resolve this one. I try not to mess with that "thinking" stuff. I mean, if I were to question the need for my posts, I'd probably end up never posting at all.
> Some people wear flares, some don't.
Yeah, I used to do that. Until my body suddenly burst into flames. Then I stopped. (actually, I joined Ytsejams, where my opinions burst into flames instead)
> This is not the Godjam or anything.
I think you're right. Michael Coghlan never mentioned he was in a band called Majdog...
> If you're right about all this I will fry in hell.
Right alongside Jeremy Haynes, Susan Moscardini, and Jeremy Moscardini.
> Most likely, we are both wrong and I will fry in hell *and* you will > actually turn out to have lived your life a silly person.
*And* you'll end up at the pearly gates and find out that Michael Coghlan is really St. Peter. Boy would that suck...
> Then again, who am *I* to say this?
You're Richard Karsmakers, 1 Ytsejammer out of 1200, 1 Internet-user out of millions, 1 human being out of billions. If everyone questioned their statistical significance, no one would say anything.
> After all, your opinion is as valid as mine. Just keep your opinion in > non-DT related matters *off* the flipping Digest! I can assure you I > will keep my non-religious opinions off the digest in the future, too.
Yes, please keep your non-religious opinions off the digest. We only like religious opinions to be posted here.
> Surely, not a soul is interested in it.
(raises hand) MEMEMEMEMEMEMEME!! I'm interested!!
> It's just that I was almost getting angry because of all that > self-righteous condescendence. I had to write this and shoot my load.
"Almost" getting angry. Whew! I for one am glad that you didn't get all-the-way angry, as it probably would have been a really spiteful post. In fact, it probably would have hurt someone's feewings...
Bafu Vai
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