YTSEJAM Digest 701
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Holy Shit!!
by jbako01 <jbako01@barney.poly.edu>
2) Re: Nay Vote for Magellan (don't give up on prog!)
by <schew@tis.com>
3) PMU and Duesseldorf Show
by sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
4) Scarred
by Jarrod Kamsey-Lewis <jarrodk@up.edu>
5) Midwest Dub site
by whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White)
6) Re: non-dt threads & machine names
by John B Ashcraft <jbashcra@uncc.edu>
7) RE: LiT Copies
by kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
8) Re: Holy Shit!!
by "George Bast (CS)" <bast@babbage.csee.usf.edu>
9) a kick into a dream
by basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de (Bernd Basmer)
10) Surrounded LIVE
by "Marquering, W." <WMA@eim.nl>
11) Computer names
by Russ Yuncker <ry@death.res-hall.nwu.edu>
12) Flaming for LiT
by Shawna Lea of the Many Nicknames <SADAMS1@WELLESLEY.EDU>
13) Re: PMU and Duesseldorf Show
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
14) names of machines
by John Mastin <jmastin@motown.ge.com>
15) Van Halen...
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
16) DT concert (spoiler alert)
by "Marquering, W." <WMA@eim.nl>
17) I&W Tablature Book
by James Utz <utz@pcbuoa.enet.dec.com>
18) Southwest dub site (repeat)
by Michelle Garcia <garcia@sluggo.sdsc.edu>
19) Derek in "Wayne's World"?
by JennieBear@aol.com
20) RE: Van Halen (Sorry non-DT)
by BOB HOLDER <BH7314@LUNDY.NIAGARAC.ON.CA>
21) albums with all good songs
by Philip_Schroeder@baylor.edu
22) "Perfect" Albums
by Anthony <AKOZAR@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU>
23) Van Halen, KM Demos, etc...
by LORDE ANDREW <DIXONAS@HIRAM.EDU>
24) TIM LODGE
by Michael Herring <mpherrin@mtu.edu>
25) DT as Openers
by "james (j.) wolf" <jwolf@bnr.ca>
26) Brittish tour dates?
by D.L.Powell-CSSE94@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk
27) Re: DT on HBB
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
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Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 20:12:23 -0500 (EST)
From: jbako01 <jbako01@barney.poly.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Holy Shit!!
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950215201057.15661C-100000@barney>
On Wed, 15 Feb 1995, Richard A. Rivera wrote:
>
>
>
> Can anyone else confirm that Van Halen and Bon Jovi are going to
> be co-headlining? How is that possible, seeing as how Van Halen's album is
> already out and Bon Jovi is most likely still recording theirs? If it
> does end up being true (perhaps later in the year), that will be one hell
> of a show. Any info. is appreciated.
>
Yep, it's going to happen around summertime (prob. June-August), by then,
Bon Jovi's album will (should) be done.
The tour lineup (tentatively) is VH and BJ as co-headliners, and The Cult
opening.
I've mentioned this before but what the hell, a little clarification
can't hurt.
Later all,
James Bako
jbako01@barney.poly.edu
Polytechnic University
Brooklyn, New York
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Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 17:19:04 -0500 (EST)
From: <schew@tis.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Nay Vote for Magellan (don't give up on prog!)
Message-ID: <5278.9502152219@ragnarok.tis.com>
>>--------------------
>>Douglas Slauson said:
>>
>> Hi all, I recently picked up a copy of Magellan's _Impending
>>Ascension_ cd, and I've listened to it about ten times. What can I
>>say? I guess the prog rock genre just isn't for me. These guys
>>really remind me of Yes, especially the vocals. I found the vocals
>>to be very annoying, and I didn't like the dominance of the keybords
>>over the guitar. There were a few passages scattered about that
>>were a little more to my tastes, but it was too long in between them.
>>Also, the music seemed to be too "happy" for me; I prefer darker,
>>more depressed music.
>>
>> I will say that the songs were well crafted, though, and if
>>you're into prog rock, I'm sure you'll like this disc.
>>
>> After trying Marillion's _Misplaced Childhood_ and now Magellan, I
>>think it's safe to say that the prog rock genre is not for me.
>>-------------------
>>
>But wait! There is so much prog rock to explore don't give up yet!
>The two groups you mentioned are in a sub-category called neo-progressive,
>which focus on lush keyboards and a bit more commercial than other types
>of prog, like symphonic, space rock, canterbury, fusion-oriented, Italian, etc.
>If you like dark music I can recommend stuff that will frighten small children
>and animals! (Il Balletto di Bronzo, King Crimson, some Anglagard come to
>mind).
>
>What do you like for music? Maybe I could recommend something that you
>would like. Check out the Giblartar Encyclopedia of Progressive Rock
>to find something more to your liking.....
>
>If you like creativity and originality in music there is some prog band
>that will suit your liking! That is what prog is all about fot the most part.
>
Doug,
Well, I'm sorry to hear that you didn't like Magellan, but I'm glad
you gave them a decent chance. I do agree with Rob though -- don't give up
on prog rock quite yet. If you prefer darker music, with dominant guitar,
then you should definitely try the band Anekdoten. They create a dark, moody
atmosphere on their album "Vemod" that you might like. I love it. King
Crimson's "Red" might also be a good one to try, and Anglagard and Il Balletto
di Bronzo are both wonderful (though maybe not quite as dark as the previous
two). There is so much variety out there in prog rock that just sampling two
bands would not do it justice. If you like more experimental style music then
get Univers Zero's "Heresie" which is one of the darkest albums I've ever
heard (it's also fairly bizzare though).
I'd recommend trying Anekdoten first and then some of the others too.
The above bands are very hard to find in stores (except for King
Crimson). But, you can mail-order any of those albums (and many other hard-
to-find prog albums) from the following places:
Of Sound Mind -- owner: Chris Lamka -- (410) 529-7082
"Of Sound Mind" is a store in Baltimore, MD that specializes in
getting hard-to-find progressive rock. They also do mail-order so you can
just call to ask what they have in stock. They can get any of the above
albums even if they don't have them in stock. They are also reliable.
Other places:
THE LASER'S EDGE
PO BOX 3128, Hoboken, NJ 07030
201-656-2112 (6PM to 10PM EST, No Later !!!)
email: lasercd@aol.com
The Laser's Edge often has a large number of the above albums already
in stock, so they are also a good place to try. You can send them email or
call.
Good luck and let me know if you decide to try any more albums...
Steve
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 02:12:32 +0100 (MEZ)
From: sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: PMU and Duesseldorf Show
Message-ID: <9502160112.AA63853@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de>
Hi there!
Besides all the actually usual stuff on the list like best-album-ever etc.,
a question concerning IAW.
I don't know if you already discussed it, but I ALWAYS wondered what happened
to the end of Pull Me Under. It seems to be cut as if they forgot to fade
out while mastering the CD. I can't imagine that it is meant to be this way.
Is it only on the European version? Tell me!
Steffen Barabasch <sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de>
PS: I can't resist. Some of MY all time favorites: Marillion - Clutching At
Straws, The Doors - L.A. Woman, Queen II, Temple Of The Dog, Slayer - Reign
In Blood and Enya - Watermark... oops...
PPS: OH! I nearly forgot to tell you shortly about the show in Duesseldorf,
Germany (11-Feb). On the way to the hall (Philipshalle) we were asked, if
we would sell our tickets... That means there were AT LEAST 5000 fans,
maybe a lot more. James said during the show, that this was the biggest
crowd they ever played before in Europe! The show was great, incl. COOL
Damage Inc. (Metallica) instumental coverversion right before Erotomania,
and Perfect Strangers before Metropolis. No Scarred, no surprises. The
people there were VERY calm, just watching DT on stage. So did I, waiting
for John Myung's bass-tapping in Metropolis... Cool show, although they
seemed to have some minor problems.
Fates Warning... mmh. I only listened to one or two older albums long time
ago, so I can't tell you much about them. They sounded to my like Queens-
ryche ten years ago, sorry! But indeed, Mark Zonder is excellent. And he
had the best live snare-sound I can remember, even much better than DT's
this evening.
That's it for now!
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Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 18:05:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Jarrod Kamsey-Lewis <jarrodk@up.edu>
To: DREAM THEATER <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Scarred
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950215180018.3207B-100000@upsun26.up.edu>
Recently, I have been listening to "Scarred" quite a bit. I have
noticed a strangly familiar melody in the song, an I am wondering if
other Yjammers have heard the same. I think at about 5:30 in the song
(although I'm not totally sure), the "Wheel of Fortune" theme song can be
heard. Am I hearing things wrong, or is the "Wheel of Fortune" theme song
supposed to have some deeper meaning on the song that I am unaware of?
Jarrod Ramsey-Lewis
University of Portland
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Date: Wed, 15 Feb 95 22:21:20 EST
From: whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Midwest Dub site
Message-ID: <9502160321.AA10019@mary.cs.fredonia.edu>
Hi ytsejammers,
I've recently become a Midwest dub site. (don't let my email address
fool ya :). I'm in Minneapolis, and I'll take dub requests from MN and
the surrounding states. Mail me and we'll set something up (most likely
blank tape + envelope, but we'll discuss it :)
However, don't mail m{e at this address (too many mailing lists, and
I don't read it all the time :) Your best bet is to mail me at the
following address:
dayx0017@gold.tc.umn.edu
It'[s not my account, but I use it, and if I don't read it, it will be
saved for me, so either way, you'll get in touch with me :) Thank{s
a lot!
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Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 23:09:51 -0500
From: John B Ashcraft <jbashcra@uncc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: non-dt threads & machine names
Message-ID: <199502160409.XAA05705@unccsun.uncc.edu>
I agree completely I saw what people talked about in the DT newgroup, and all
they do is talk crap to each other! I think the freedom and openmindedness is what makes this list great! Just my 2 cents.
Thanks
Trey
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Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 22:14:38 +0800
From: kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: RE: LiT Copies
Message-ID: <9502160614.AA11542@anthor.arastar.com>
> From: TTubbiola@aol.com
>
> I hope nobody is going to buy bootlegged copies of an official DT release!!!
[deleted]
The person who offered the videos has unsubscribed himself from the list
(after posting that he wasn't going to copy the video). I think that this
was a case where he didn't realize that what he was suggesting was illegal
(though I can't prove that). Kev's meant well in the past anyways...
-- Ken Bibb "Upon a wave of summer kbibb@arastar.com A hilltop paved with gold jester@crash.cts.com We shut our eyes and make the promises we hold" David Sylvian--"Wave"------------------------------
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 00:32:13 -0500 (EST) From: "George Bast (CS)" <bast@babbage.csee.usf.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: Holy Shit!! Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950216002307.22281A-100000@babbage>
On Wed, 15 Feb 1995, Richard A. Rivera wrote:
> > > > Can anyone else confirm that Van Halen and Bon Jovi are going to > be co-headlining? How is that possible, seeing as how Van Halen's album is > already out and Bon Jovi is most likely still recording theirs? If it > does end up being true (perhaps later in the year), that will be one hell > of a show. Any info. is appreciated. > > Richie > rrivera@moose.uvm.edu Going aside from DT matter, this info is NOT true; at least not for the first leg of Van Halen's tour. I have already purchased VH tickets for an April show in St. Pete and not a mention of Bon Jovi was heard. And chances are, they probably won't be added for the first leg, since I paid $28.50 for the tix and a co-headlining tour would cost more, I would expect.
Beyond the first leg, any speculation goes.
Hope this cleared this matter up.
Later on, Jammers...
geo
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 95 07:35:44 +0100 From: basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de (Bernd Basmer) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: a kick into a dream Message-ID: <9502160635.AA12050@krzsun.med-rz.uni-sb.de>
YES! It's me again.
I wonder if there is any GERMAN Ytsejammer who can tell me where I can buy this 2CD named 'A KICK INTO A DREAM'. As far as I know this is a bootleg taken from the current AWAKE-tour and I WANT IT !!
Thanks.
Bernd.
********************************************************************** L E T T H E L I G H T S U R R O U N D Y O U ! **************************************************************** DT **
\||/ basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de Bernd Basmer -00- Zentrum fuer Informations- und -__- Kommunikationstechnik Homburg/Saar
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Date: Wed, 15 Feb 95 13:59:00 GMT From: "Marquering, W." <WMA@eim.nl> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Surrounded LIVE Message-ID: <2F43192D@eim.nl>
I've got a theory about DT not playing Surrounded anymore.
I assume James must dislike playing this song live. The mellow parts in the beginning and the end especially. This conclusion is based on my experience at the Nottingham gig , last year. James left the stage after someone in the audience kept on screaming during this parts. James seemed to be really pissed off and didn't return within the next 30 minutes. (DT played some instrumental songs) In order to prevent this happening again they probably just skipped the song. Just a thought...
Wessel Marquering wma@eim.nl The Netherlands
PS. Tonight is the big night: FW and DT in Holland (I'm already nervous!!!)
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 95 2:51:20 +0000 From: Russ Yuncker <ry@death.res-hall.nwu.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Computer names Message-ID: <9502161051.AA0206@>
Sorry to continue a non-DT thread, but here at Northwestern the PCs in our main lab are Star Trek characters (worf, scotty, etc.) and our servers are named after Evanston restaurants (Lulu, Merle, Casbah). Also, I named my PC Death and the person across from me is Chaos.
Russ
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 07:51:26 -0500 (EST) From: Shawna Lea of the Many Nicknames <SADAMS1@WELLESLEY.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Flaming for LiT Message-ID: <01HN3YJ1B2EQ8X5VBC@WELLESLEY.EDU>
I really feel sorry for this guy. I don't think he realized that what he was doing was really so bad. But I think that if anyone has his address, I would suggest that once this dies down someone should invite him back on the list. I don't think he'll make the same mistake again...
just my lim 1/x cents, (cheap eh?) x goes to infinity
Thanks,
Shawna Lea Adams Muireann MacOisdealblaigh drealla@spike.wellesley.edu sadams1@wellesley.edu
Love is an act of blood and I'm bleeding A pool in the shape of a heart. Beauty's projection in the reflection Always the worst way to start. -"Space-Dye Vest" Dream Theater _Awake_
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 07:06:51 -0600 (CST) From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: PMU and Duesseldorf Show Message-ID: <199502161306.HAA13430@galaxy.galstar.com>
> > Hi there! > > I don't know if you already discussed it, but I ALWAYS wondered what happened > to the end of Pull Me Under. It seems to be cut as if they forgot to fade > out while mastering the CD. I can't imagine that it is meant to be this way. > Is it only on the European version? Tell me!
I have always thought it to be intentional, like the person listening (or perhaps singing) dies very quickly. And they play it like this live also (as seen on LitM and on LiT.
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 08:14:07 -0500 From: John Mastin <jmastin@motown.ge.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: names of machines Message-ID: <199502161314.IAA05786@cybertron>
I was reading the posts about naming machines after musical bands. Where I work now, machine names are basically anything goes. Anything from presidents to cars to beers to names of boats to names of nordic gods. What is wild is that we have Elvis here. So when you *ping Elvis* you get *Elvis is alive* back. Ha, ha, ha. Anyway, where I used to work, they had one of the coolest naming conventions. They named all of the machines after planets, both fictional and real ones. Pretty crazy to be on Vulcan one minute and then Saturn the next and then even off to Cybertron and Spaceball!
Just me and my two cents!
Johnny
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 09:29:31 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam SERVER) Subject: Van Halen... Message-ID: <199502161429.JAA24909@opal.cs.brandeis.edu>
Since there seems to be some discussion latly about Van Halen, I though that I'd post this... They are not really opening for Bon Jovi in Europe, rather doing something like the Monsters Of Rock thing... In the US, they will be headlining... Rumors are that the Cult will be opening for them... All of this information was obtained from the Van Halen digest, which is similar to the format of Ytsejam. You can subscribe by sending mail to listproc@cornell.edu with no subject (I guess asdf would work, as it does at arastar) with the body reading:
subscribe vanhalen-l FIRSTNAME LASTNAME
replacing first and last name w/ your name.
One early warning is that there are some really immatture people over there that like to keep a constant flame war over going between who is "better", Sammy or DLR... If you can learn to filter that out, it isn't too bad.
Also, they are using newer listserv software, which for some reason doesn't default to a digest every 1000 lines, rather 1 per day, so if you get the digest format, be prepared for a digest size ranging frmo 2500-4500 lines.
-- +----------------------------------------+----------------+---------+ | And I'll smile and learn to pretend | Dream Theater | Michael | | And I'll never be open again | Space Dye Vest | Burstin | | And I'll have no more dreams to defend |-----Awake------+---------+ | And I'll never be open again | Pgh Penguins: 11-0-1 | +----------------------------------------+--------------------------+ For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu http://cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/home.html
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 95 11:10:00 GMT From: "Marquering, W." <WMA@eim.nl> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: DT concert (spoiler alert) Message-ID: <2F4384BD@eim.nl>
Wow,
The concert yesterday was simply great! Fates Warning really surprised me: great to watch M. Zonder playing the drums the way he did.
DT had some surprises in the show: Surrounded, instrumental version of Damage inc. from Metallica (James told me he didn't sing because he didn't know the lyrics), two encores and funeral for a friend from Elton John. I never heard this song before, James told me afterwards. The sound was outstanding! Two hours after the show we talked with James and John M. They signed my awake poster and they took the time to answer a lot of questions. James enjoyed the cover gig very much, they taped the show, but it won't be released :( Also they're not certain about recording the EP. The reason: DT is afraid releasing too much material. They WILL however release ACoS sometime in the future!!! I was wearing my ytsejam shirt and asked James whether he knew the existance of us. He laughed and took off his jacket: he wore his ytsejam shirt!!!!!!! He told me to say Hi to all the people of ytse jam.
I brought some back issues of ytse jam to give these to DT. The tour manager was REALLY happy to receive those and told me DT enjoys reading them. He's really cool ! Mike did the co-engineering of the silent man video.
Must go now! more to come later.
Wessel Marquering (wma@eim.nl) The Netherlands
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:11:55 EST From: James Utz <utz@pcbuoa.enet.dec.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: I&W Tablature Book Message-ID: <9502161506.AA04325@us4rmc.pko.dec.com>
Hello all, Last Sunday I bought an Images And Words tablature book. It is not an import, and I bought it at a large music store (I mean a store that sells lots of sheet music, not records) here in the US. I don't have the info (ISBN#, publisher, etc.), but it was published by one of the major tab book vendors. I'll post the info if people want to know.
James utz@pcbuoa.enet.dec.com
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 08:34:11 -0800 (PST) From: Michelle Garcia <garcia@sluggo.sdsc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Southwest dub site (repeat) Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9502160840.B22423-0100000@sluggo.sdsc.edu>
On Wed, 15 Feb 1995, Ken Higginson wrote:
> I live in Colorado... Is there a dub site for the Moore demos out here?
There shore is y'all! Once again I'm in Southern California and ready to dub Kevin Moore's demos. Email me at garcia@sdsc.edu
I've got some ready to go and I would also like to trade for tapes or blanks. See ya! -------------------------------------------------------------- Michelle Garcia {{{{}}}} University of California, San Diego San Diego Supercomputer Center USA email: garcia@sdsc.edu { "As a child, I thought I could live without pain without sorrow..." - John Petrucci, DREAM THEATER } --------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 20:10:45 -0500 From: JennieBear@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Derek in "Wayne's World"? Message-ID: <950215195149_22638101@aol.com>
The following appeared in Ytsejam #699:
>>> Steve Z > > PS-Anyone looked in _Wayne's_World_ for Derek Sherinian yet? I keep meaning > to whenever I go home, but haven't gotten around to it.
I saw the part this weekend when Wayne and Garth went to the Alice Cooper concert in the movie. I did not see Derek at all. The guy playing the keyboards was shown but was at a distance and he had long hair.<<
I haven't seen "Wayne's World" recently (although I finally caught the sequel a couple weeks ago!) You probably saw Derek but didn't realize it was him... When I met the guys, someone asked Derek about his hair - he said he'd cut it recently because he was tired of it. So, at one time, Derek had longer hair...
Jen
-- "Could we see clearer in a virtual reality?" - Magellan "I am the beat of your pulse/the computer word made flesh" - Queensryche
jenniebear@aol.com kethry@netcom.com
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 13:08:23 -0500 (EST) From: BOB HOLDER <BH7314@LUNDY.NIAGARAC.ON.CA> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: BH7314@LUNDY.NIAGARAC.ON.CA Subject: RE: Van Halen (Sorry non-DT) Message-ID: <950216130823.20407d16@LUNDY.NIAGARAC.ON.CA>
I heard this morning on the radio that Collective Soul is the opening act for Van Halen on the opening night of the tour which starts off in Florida in March/April? Bob "It's a crazy world we live in, and I'm leaving it today, for another institution, where crazy people play." Dio
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 12:14:17 +0000 From: Philip_Schroeder@baylor.edu To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: albums with all good songs Message-ID: <MailDrop1.1b9A.950216121417@st-moody-b-dyn-09.baylor.edu>
All of these lists of various people's "favorite albums with NO bad songs" has been interesting and informative but it proves a point that I have often thought and I wanted to see what y'all think about it. Good bands that are really good will always have an album with all good songs (or at least most of them). In other words, if a band only has one or two good songs, then why buy the album? That kind of band doesn't deserve your support if they don't have enough skill to produce more than a couple good songs. Obviously the one good song they did have was just a coincidence. This thought may seem off the wall, but this is the reason why I hate singles and DESPISE pop radio. People who hear one song on the radio and then buy the single often do this because the rest of the songs aren't any good. This brings me to my final pet peeve. People who don't have minds of their own. They hear a song on the radio 3 times an hour, and then decide they like it. Pop radio controls what songs people will like, not the other way around. This is why I admire the rest of you ytsejammers. You buy albums, not based on radio airplay, but ON WHAT YOU LIKE! Because let's face it, good bands like Dream Theater, Queensryche, Rush etc.. don't get much airplay(except maybe on Zrock). One of the reasons ytsejam is so great is because we can hear about good bands that we might not hear of any other way. So keep those opinions coming!
Please react to what I said about singles and that good bands are characterized by albums with almost all good songs.(I won't say all, because we all have different tastes, and its no big deal if we don't like one or two.) Theres my 4 or 5 cents(because of length:) Phil
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 14:50:28 -0500 (EST) From: Anthony <AKOZAR@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU> To: DT:;@donews.uucp Subject: "Perfect" Albums Message-ID: <01HN4CYCTLF6001WJ1@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU>
hi jammers!
just thought id jump on this thread real quick...here are the albums which i love and dont dislike any songs from:
DT: awake, I&W RUSH: Hemispheres, A Farewell to Kings, Permanent Waves, 2112, Caress of Steel METALLICA: "black" album
also, just to note that i played one of my own pieces today in a recital at our music dept, and it went over fairly well....some of my music is influenced heavily by rush...im going to adding scanned images of some of my scores soon to my WWW home page, so anyone interested could download them and give them a try (they are written for piano)...anyone who does so please write me and give some feedback...look for them to start appearing in the next two weeks...
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 15:11:14 -0500 (EST) From: LORDE ANDREW <DIXONAS@HIRAM.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Van Halen, KM Demos, etc... Message-ID: <950216151114.214050f6@HIRAM.EDU>
Hi. this is my frist time posting. I was wondering if anyone out there would happen to know the tour dates for Van Halen, specifically when they are coming to Cleveland, Ohio. And while we're on the tour dates subject, anyone know the dates for Queensryche? I heard that Fates Warning is opening - anybody know if this is true? I'd like to thank Jeff Chew for sending me my copy of the Kevin Moore Demos, I have yet to listen to them, but I appreciate the quick response. And thanks to all the people out there who started the Fates Warning discussion so many weeks ago. I decided to try them out, and bought _Parallels_. I love it! So, if anyone has any more suggestions, keep 'em coming!!! As for my favorite albums/like every song, I'd have to say there are only a few: Dream Theater : I&W, Awake Fates Warning : Parallels Queensryche : Operation:Mindcrime well, I guess that's it. Just thought that I would put in my dollar and a half. Cheers, Andy
---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "From my mother's sleep I fell into the State And I hunched in its belly till my wet fur froze. Six miles from earth, loosed from its dream of life, I woke to black flak and the nightmare fighters. When I died they washed me out of the turret with a hose."
--Randall Jarell, "The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andy Dixon dixonas@hiram.edu POBox 654 Hiram, OH 44234 Phone: (216)569-5027
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 95 15:52:45 EST From: Michael Herring <mpherrin@mtu.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: TIM LODGE Message-ID: <9502162052.AA19499@maxwell11.ee.mtu.edu>
Sorry to take up list space but I lost Tim Lodges Address.
TIM LODGE: I would like to know when I'm going to get my discs. Majesty Demos and Instru-mental? Soon I hope. Let me know.
John Kotzian 710 water st Hancock, MI 49930 P.S. Mail me at this address.
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 14:00:00 -0600 From: "james (j.) wolf" <jwolf@bnr.ca> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: DT as Openers Message-ID: <"24475 Thu Feb 16 15:43:05 1995"@bnr.ca>
If DT opened (which I hope they don't for selfish reasons-I want to see a full 2 hrs, not 45 min.), this is my guess as to what they'd play:
Song: Approx. Time (from memory): ----- ------------- Pull Me Under 7:30 6:00 6:30 Caught in a Web 5:30 Take the Time 8:00 Lie 7:00 Metropolis 10:00 ----- 44:30
Pretty unsatisfying, but unfortunately, opening acts are almost obligated to play the songs that got radio airplay (to try and hold the attention of the headliner's fans) and you're left with little time for anything else!! --------------- Wolfman
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 95 19:09:01 GMT From: D.L.Powell-CSSE94@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Brittish tour dates? Message-ID: <25019.9502161909@mungo.cs.bham.ac.uk>
Could somebody please, please send me the latest brittish tour dates.
I keep phoning Nottingham Rock City but they swear that they haven`t booked DT there and I really want to see them, again. I don`t want to travel to London, (but if the worst comes to the worst!!!)
Cheerz in advance. Big Daym (Damian Powell - D.L.Powell-CSSE94@cs.bham.ac.uk)
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 15:41:45 -0600 (CST) From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: DT on HBB Message-ID: <199502162141.PAA22484@galaxy.galstar.com>
> Just one thing I gotta tell you: Right before HBB they showed the usual > half-hour of Beavis & Butt-Head and this sunday they showed one episode > where B&B watch a GWAR-video. Butt-Head goes: "You know, you watch all > these videos for hours and hours, and they all suck, and then this comes > on and it's like, it's all worth it!" That pretty much sums up just what > I felt watching HBB. :-)
GWAR? What is this? (Excuse my ignorance.) Also, what os AOR? I see this a lot, usually in the context of pop bands.
I think it'd be awesome to have a B&B show full of Prog videos. I'm sure they'd think up some pretty funny stuff to say about older prog-rock videos. I've heard they've seen a Rush video and a Yes video. Rush was Stick It Out and they were saying "Yeah, this is cool, yeah!" and then they said, "Oh, is RUSH." I thought that is so true of some people. They'll like the song, but when they hear its by an artist they don't like, it suddenly becomes shit. And I would guess they were really making fun of the Yes video, Owner of a Lonely Heart. But they need to have a show of all prog stuff, like 80's Crimson, some Fates, some DT, some Queensryche, Yes, Marillion (did they make any videos? Surely...) I'm sure there's more prog-rock videos out there, enough to make a whole show full of them.
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