YTSEJAM Digest 688
Today's Topics:
1) New bootlegs
by goebel@inf.fu-berlin.de (Ties Goebel)
2) A Kick Into a SKIP?
by Carmen J Pezzone <cpezzone@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
3) Tour info wanted!
by Mats Rydstr\vm <d94-mry@nada.kth.se>
4) Re: Music Meant to Be Heard (Another Site Announcement!)
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
5) Bass explorations...
by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
6) Scalloped frets
by William Kriski <wkriski@enci.ucalgary.ca>
7) Re: Yngwie
by kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
8) Re: James like Bach?
by An Angel's Kiss... <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
9) 'Subconcious' and UK 'jammers...
by M.J.Thomas-SE2@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk
10) Re:Favourite Albums...
by M.J.Thomas-SE2@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk
11) I need music help.
by Larry G Waterfield <mulgw1@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>
12) Guitar contest
by HuntNKill@aol.com
13) Re: some more about DT in munich...
by Ricky Booth <rbooth@galaxy.galstar.com>
14) Petrucci mania!
by Brandon Vaughn <EDLEADER@uwf.cc.uwf.edu>
15) Tori Amos
by Geoffrey T Hardy <hard0041@gold.tc.umn.edu>
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 686
by be298@yfn.ysu.edu (Asif I. Khan)
17) Another vote for Magellan
by mpatrick@holli.com (Mike Patrick)
18) Re: Petrucci mania!
by kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
19) Petrucci on Awake
by jwelliot@eos.ncsu.edu
20) Dub Site Opening East Coast!!!
by "backof michael ( bs ifsm)" <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
21) CDlength
by zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
22) James' "Voices"
by zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
23) New Keyboardest
by "John Thompson" <JET@mhc.edu>
24) DT in Manchester!
by Fredrik Blomgren <F.Blomgren@computer-science.hull.ac.uk>
25) Kevin Moore tape
by Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
26) Marty Friedman/Jason Becker
by "GENE (FILL IN THE BLANK) SZUCS" <SZUCSEUE@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu>
27) Pull Me Under lyrics
by Brian Fieg <fieg@gn2.getnet.com>
28) Re: I need music help.
by jjens@site.gmu.edu (John Jens, Jr.)
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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 95 12:40 MET
From: goebel@inf.fu-berlin.de (Ties Goebel)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: New bootlegs
Message-ID: <m0rbRo8-000131C@inf.fu-berlin.de>
I just found some new DT CD-bootlegs in a mail order catalogue for 20 DM each:
"Tragedy", "Comedy" - I remember having heard about these, they are NOT from
the Awake tour, right ?
"Caught In A Web - Live '94" - Does anybody know anything about this ?
I'm thinking about ordering it.
Ties
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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 09:15:36 -0500 (EST)
From: Carmen J Pezzone <cpezzone@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: A Kick Into a SKIP?
Message-ID: <199502061415.JAA03540@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
I bought A KICK INTO A DREAM but have only had time to listen to bits and
pieces. Where is the skip that some of you were talking about? I mean in what
song and about how far into that song? Thanks in advance.
LAter,
Carmen
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Mr. Carmen J. Pezzone Jr. (Aero/Astro Eng) cpezzone@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
you can reach me also at pezzone.1@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu
Take the Time^Roll the Bones^Up the Irons^Balls to Picasso^Rust in Piece
Mouth for War^Kill 'em All^A Jar of Flies^Songs for Instects^Speak the Word
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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 15:19:15 +0100 (MET)
From: Mats Rydstr\vm <d94-mry@nada.kth.se>
To: Ytsejam mailing-list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Tour info wanted!
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91N2.950206151335.7332A-100000@mumrik.nada.kth.se>
Hi!
I'm about to see DT the 20th of Feb (I hope) but I need some information,
BAD! I'd like to know from you guys who have seen the tour so far:
Does FW start on time?
How long does FW play?
When is DT on?
I need answers to these questions ASAP, if anyone would like to help,
many thanks in advance! (I saw them 2 times on the last tour but I can't
recall if they were on time + it was a different thing w/o support act)
/Mats
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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 06:41:01 -0600 (CST)
From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Music Meant to Be Heard (Another Site Announcement!)
Message-ID: <199502061241.GAA03593@galaxy.galstar.com>
> For those of you already in possession of "Music Meant to Be Heard," I
> believe I have identified a sample and would like to know if anyone can back
> me up on this. On "Shallow," there's a female voice singing something that
> sounds like "daaaa duh daaa..." toward the beginning and the end of the
> song. Isn't it Bjork (ex-vocalist from The Sugarcubes) from "Crying"?
SO???? Are the tapes good? Can they be compared to anything or are the
like SDV, nothing can be compared that. :)
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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 08:29:58 MST
From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Bass explorations...
Message-ID: <DA37470098@UCS.ISU.EDU>
I do have to agree with one thing I've caught up on lately.
Crank the BASS!!!
I'm a bass player (still a four string, six strings are above my
financial level, being a college student and all) and I really love
John Myung's bass parts. My only problem is that I have to crank the
low EQ till the bass drum gets distorted before I can hear what he's
playing. Mostly he follows Petrucci, but when he doesn't, he really
rips it up! He really lives up to his influences (Geddy Lee and
Steve Harris).
Everyone I've talked to who has listened to any of their stuff has
agreed with me. He sits too far back in the mix.
'Nuff said.
Chuck
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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 09:35:12 -0700 (MST)
From: William Kriski <wkriski@enci.ucalgary.ca>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Scalloped frets
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9502060951.B2635-0100000@casual1>
Hi,
This is to the 'jammer that said he didn't understand how scalloped frets
make you play faster. From my experience, they don't make you play faster.
In my opinion, Yngwie use them in order to get "under" the strings for
bending purposes. You can also get vibrato by pushing the string towards
the fretboard rather than parallel (up or down) to the fretboard
(depending on the depth of the scallop). High action will allow you to get
under the strings as well. In this way, you can get a good grip on the
strings and really bend the shit out of them.
The scallop are especially useful on the low strings (thicker and harder
to bend) and at lower frets (shorter length of string to tuning peg, and
therefore harder to bend as well).
Hope this helps!
Will
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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 09:36:27 +0800
From: kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Yngwie
Message-ID: <9502061736.AA18703@anthor.arastar.com>
> From: Igor Sinyak <Igor_Sinyak@ccm.ch.intel.com>
>
> And Ken:
> I've mentioned the list on here before - does that make you
> the ignorant one? :)
Sure looks that way :) Thanks for providing the info!
-- Ken Bibb "Upon a wave of summer kbibb@arastar.com A hilltop paved with gold jester@crash.cts.com We shut our eyes and make the promises we hold" David Sylvian--"Wave"------------------------------
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 10:03:29 -0500 (EST) From: An Angel's Kiss... <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: James like Bach? Message-ID: <m0rbV5b-0000ouC@crash.cts.com>
> > Chris wrote in Digest 684: > > >really heard much Skid Row so I can't comment, but you're obviously not > >alone. (do you think he sounds like Bach on I&W too?) > > actually, on I&W i DONT think he sounds like Bach. it's only on Awake and > live, when he strains -- natural voice?
In an interview that I have, LaBrie insists that everything he sings is not "strained" or "screamed", but is done strictly technique-wise....how he does it, I don't know, but that's striaght from his mouth.
-- that he sounds like Bach. the > reason i dont think they sound similar on I&W is bcuz the melodies, lyrics, > if not the majority of the songs, were already put together when James > joined. on Awake James had much more input and i believe Awake demostrates > James' "real" voice, or at least the one he's most comfortable w/, or the > one he thought wud fit most appropriately on that CD. > > just my thoughts :) > .............................................................................. > John C. Jens, Jr. > jjens@gmu.edu > jensjr@tec.army.mil
Al Balkiewicz vocals, Half Naked
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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 95 14:05:14 GMT From: M.J.Thomas-SE2@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: 'Subconcious' and UK 'jammers... Message-ID: <1331.9502061405@mb1.cs.bham.ac.uk>
Hiya folks...More news and views from the UK...
Good to see 'Subconcious' coming on so well. If a copy of 'Winter' does emerge, I'm not sure it would be appropriate since they only did one verse, one chorus and then launched into something else (I forget what). "Happiness is a warm Gun" or "Easter" would be good to have, although the latter doesn't have James on vocals.
To all those in the UK who are going to the Forum...Where are we gonna meet up? I got my tickets last week (same day as I got my 'Uncovered' ticket :) brag, brag, brag...), and would like to know what time the rest of you guys and gals are gonna mosey on into London town. Are the band going to be doing any signings in London that day? I WILL get John Petrucci's autograph. It will be mine, oh yes, it will be mine....
Oh yeah, that reminds me. Does anyone else realise that Derek Sherinian appears on Wayne's World? It's when he was in Alice's band. Funny old world...
Later,
Matt
"For the first time in a long time...It's about music."
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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 95 13:51:10 GMT From: M.J.Thomas-SE2@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re:Favourite Albums... Message-ID: <1325.9502061351@mb1.cs.bham.ac.uk>
Hiya folks...More news and views from the UK...
First off, I'd like to say I'm hurt that it only took Mike Portnoy 5 days to forget he'd met me...<sniff>...I guess he's a pretty busy guy though, so I'll let him off :)
How would I rate the albums? Well, I gues I&W is my favourite. There isn't a single song I dislike and most of it's brilliant. My all time fav..
My mext favourite is WD&DU. Some of the stuff's amazing (as good as I&W gets), but some of the songs ( e.g. LF&GA, TOWHTSTS) are pretty weak, IMHO. I realise the wierd and wonderful changes make them all the more 'progressive', but for me, it just makes them hang together less.
Don't get me wrong, Awake's f'ing ace, but it just has more weak points than the others. Some bits in CIAW, Lie and LSOAD, just plain irritate me now.
Later,
Matt
"For the first time in a long time...It's about music."
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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 11:13:28 -0600 (CST) From: Larry G Waterfield <mulgw1@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: I need music help. Message-ID: <199502061713.AA06548@ecom1.ecn.bgu.edu>
Hey all:
All this talk of other progressive bands has gotten my mouth watering. I'm having such a hard time finding music I like since I started listening to DT; they've spoiled me for all other music. (I can't believe there's a new Van Halen album out and I haven't even bothered to buy it!)
My reason for listening to music has changed. I now listen more to be awed (by the likes of TTT, Metropolis, Ivory Gate of Dreams, and Rime of the Ancient Mariner (I play bass -- I still think Steve is incredible)) than for passive entertainment (the same reason some people listen to shit like Paula Abdul and Janet Jackson).
I still like Megadeth, but just 'cause a lot of the songs are just plain _neat_, know what I mean? Maybe it's the hooks, or the anger, but they're about the only ones that don't fit the above category, along with FW's Guardian (sorry, it's neat and entertaining, but hardly not inspiring).
I do have a point for telling all this to you: I NEED RECOMMENDATIONS! I've run out of music to listen to. If any of you helpful 'Jammers could recommend something with the above parameters in mind, or answer some of the following questions, either privately or here, I would be eternally grateful!
So, by band...
Marillian: The only album I've found so far is Brave, which I haven't seen mentioned here yet. Is it good? What are these guys like?
Magellan: Can't find them anywhere. What are they like?
Cacophony: Do you think I would like them? I get in the mood for speed metal once in a while. What about Marty's solo stuff?
Any others? Thank you all for the consideration. Wish me luck...
Toodles! Glenn
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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 15:24:52 -0500 From: HuntNKill@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Guitar contest Message-ID: <950206152439_14419401@aol.com>
Dear jammers,
In the near future, there will be a guitar contest for John Petrucci's colorful guitar with his signature. Only 100 of the guitars will be made, and John himself will probably present the first winner his/her guitar. I don't know exactly when this will happen, though.
Yours, Jeff =)
<<<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<<<</-\-/-\-/-\>>>>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>>> Jeff Chew is: "What a journey it has been huntnkill@aol.com and the end is not in sight But the stars are out tonight "Hello, Newman." and they're bound to guide my way" - Jerry Seinfeld - Lea Salonga <<<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<<<<\-/-\-/-\-/>>>>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>>>
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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 15:55:45 -0600 (CST) From: Ricky Booth <rbooth@galaxy.galstar.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: some more about DT in munich... Message-ID: <199502062155.PAA08993@galaxy.galstar.com>
> > Just some additional information about the muncih concert... > As freak@cube.net (Alex Reinelt) mentioned there were some instrumentals > inbetween the setlist. One of them was an outstanding version of > Metallicas "Battery" right after Mirror/Lie. > The first encore was Deep Purples "Perfect Strangers" which was also > played even more _perfect_ as the original.... > The only thing that sucked this evening was the security. The guys weren't > able to get the complete audience inside before Fates Warning started > their show :-( ....(no further comment) >
Munich concert huh... Was this before or after the covers gig?
I wonder if DT will be doing more covers at their shows since they did that covers gig.
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Date: Mon, 06 Feb 95 15:44:15 CST From: Brandon Vaughn <EDLEADER@uwf.cc.uwf.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Petrucci mania! Message-ID: <9502062200.AA21085@anthor.arastar.com>
IMHO, I think Petrucci is one of the most original, innovative guitarists around. I know I'll be one of the first to get his instructional videos when they come out. While on the subject of Petrucci, I was wondering: 1) Why hasn't any TAB books come out yet? They have been rumored, but nothing has surfaced. I even contacted Guitar World and they said they would find out, but never did. Anybody know anything?! 2) Has anyone downloaded Petrucci's interactive lessons from Compuserve on the net? They are supposedly freeware. Anybody tried them yet? *******Brandon Vaughn******EDLEADER@UWF.BITNET******************
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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 15:25:15 -0600 (CST) From: Geoffrey T Hardy <hard0041@gold.tc.umn.edu> To: Dream Theater post to list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Tori Amos Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9502061545.A10707-0100000@gold.tc.umn.edu>
William Wright wrote: > About Tori... I have never heard her before, and I > was at the CD store > yesterday. I went over to the A's and found the CD that "Winter" was on, > the one DT played at the covers. But after I thought about it, I said to > myself, I should listen to this before I buy it. Please everyone tell me > how stupid I was so I will go back and get it. be truthful, will I like > this CD if I get it? William, I agree you should listen to a CD before buying, but I'd like to strongly recommend Tori's music. She's an amazing vocalist and piano player and an extraordinary song-writer. Even though I'm mainly a metal fan, I hooked on her music and buy everything she releases, albums, EPs, singles w/unreleased tracks, etc. I hope this helps.
I don't care if the music isn't heavy, and I don't > really care if it's not in weird time signatures, but I don't want this > to be an Amy Grant CD or something horrible like that. Don't worry, it's nothing like Amy Grant, believe me.
I know I SHOULD > listen to this CD before, but currently I have no idea how I'd do that, > because no one I know has a CD of hers either.
(have you tried a used CD shop? They usually let you listen to CDs before buying.)
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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 18:44:47 -0500 From: be298@yfn.ysu.edu (Asif I. Khan) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 686 Message-ID: <199502062344.AA01862@yfn.ysu.edu>
In YJAM 686, Garrett Sanborn wrote,....Yes I too think that I&W is difficult to play (the quick 32nds or 16ths he throws in during the second verse of TTT) but I've had better luck playing the songs off I&W than Awake. When I spoke of maturing, I meant that Mike played a more stable four than any of the songs on I&W, but that may be due to the fact that Awake was longer by 15min or so a as a consequence, more 'dead time' or perhaps the songs themselves dictated a mellower beat (Voices eg). Mike seems to like playing 6/4 a lot, what do you think, it happens to be one of my fav times including 7/4. BTW, did he graduate from Berklee or just go there part time or what...Much appreciated.
Later
Asif
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Date: Mon, 06 Feb 1995 20:14:29 -0500 From: mpatrick@holli.com (Mike Patrick) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Another vote for Magellan Message-ID: <m0rbeag-00086kC@walnut.holli.com>
Just got 'Impending Ascension'. It's really good - not really like DT, but very good. My only complaint is that the drum machine sounds a little cheap, but the actual programming of it is pretty impressive. Of course, what is the first thing my wife says? "Sounds like Yes". There you have it. Mike Patrick mpatrick@holli.com "In case you haven't noticed, Mr. Moulder, the Statue of Liberty is on vacation."
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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 19:48:33 +0800 From: kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Petrucci mania! Message-ID: <9502070348.AA22853@anthor.arastar.com>
> From: Brandon Vaughn <EDLEADER@uwf.cc.uwf.edu> > > > IMHO, I think Petrucci is one of the most original, innovative > guitarists around. I know I'll be one of the first to get his > instructional videos when they come out. While on the subject of > Petrucci, I was wondering: > 1) Why hasn't any TAB books come out yet? They have been > rumored, but nothing has surfaced. I even contacted > Guitar World and they said they would find out, but > never did. Anybody know anything?!
I saw the Japanese tab book for (I think) Images & Words at the Hollywood concert.
-- Ken Bibb "Upon a wave of summer kbibb@arastar.com A hilltop paved with gold jester@crash.cts.com We shut our eyes and make the promises we hold" David Sylvian--"Wave"
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Date: Mon, 06 Feb 95 13:25:21 EST From: jwelliot@eos.ncsu.edu To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Petrucci on Awake Message-ID: <9502061825.AA08848@c00476-224wi.eos.ncsu.edu>
I've found that a great many of you jammers (M&F alike) are musicians, both avid and talented. So, for you instrumentalists out there, you may find it interesting to know just why the guitars are so prominent on Awake. JP said that he wanted to do an album where the guitars were more "orchestrated," as he put it. He wanted cascades and ascending rythms and melodies working together at the same time. There's more layering of guitars on AWAKE, sometimes 2, 3, maybe even four tracks at once, because o a certain sound Petrucci himself wanted. Why not? His instrument, right? Had the others expressed a certain desire to make their instruments as prominent as JP, I'm sure they would have found a way to do it, that is, possibly with the exception of KM, but, then again, SDV was his big moment of orchestration.
Later,
Mathghamhain
(The Bear)
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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 14:47:11 -0500 From: "backof michael ( bs ifsm)" <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Dub Site Opening East Coast!!! Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.90.950206143558.23141A-100000@umbc8.umbc.edu>
Hello Everyone!
I will be handling dubs for "East Coast" persons in the USA where my definition of "East Coast" is anywhere in the USA East of the Mississippi River. The Kevin Moore demos are in and I find myself humming several of the songs already after four listens. It is NOT DT but it shows that Kevin is a remarkable songwriter. Reviews later no doubt.
This is how I am working it. If you just want to get a copy of the demos you can mail me a Maxell XL-II 60min or any blank tape, if you do this your best bet is to include the tape in a Self Addressed Stamped Padded Shipper with enough postage to cover whatever method you wish me to return it to you (1st class, priority, etc). Or you can send me a check to cover the price of a Maxell XL-II 60min, padded shipper, and postal method, I will work this out individually but for one tape and 1st class postage it will probably cost $3.50, I'll have to see what kinda of sale price I can get the tapes at.
Alternately you can trade with me, send me mail at mbacko1@umbc.edu if you want my list or to negotiate the above.
I am taking 25 dubs of the demos. After that I need to get back to my school work.
Later,
Mike
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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 15:23:49 -0500 (EST) From: zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: CDlength Message-ID: <199502062023.PAA23841@rpc30.gl.umbc.edu>
I believe that the 76 min "limit" on cd's would be more aptly named "The Practical Limit," because this is the point when you begin to encounter problem areas. For example, on a long CD, the tracks must be crammed closer together, thus making mis-tracking more probable. I recall certain CD's of mine that when listened to with the player sitting on top of the speaker enc., the bass actually shook the player and caused horrendous skips<the disc I am referring to is the Satriani "Time Machine" CD's; while being only about 69 min.,i think the same problem still applies. I have a real problem w/ all Relativity CD's. Anyway...> And of course, I could be totally wrong. Sorry to ramble about non-DT stuff, but while we're on the subject: Did you know that if you imagine the grooves on a record and tracks on a CD like spaghetti, and "unroll" them, a 60 min record would be about 40 feet, and a 60 min CD would be about 40 MILES!
Steve Z
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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 16:01:04 -0500 (EST) From: zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: James' "Voices" Message-ID: <199502062101.QAA23899@rpc30.gl.umbc.edu>
Although it breaks my heart to say this, I do think that James sounds a bit like seb bach on Awake. I'm not a big SkRow fan, but what i really hate is bach's voice. He's TERRIBLY strained, and as far as pitch goes he's just clueless. I've heard live stuff by SkRow, and the worst part <even worse than snake-boy's solos> is bach's singing. In the LiT vid, when he sings the TTT part: he's not even in tune w/ himself! Sorry about that negative vibe. The point I'm trying to make is that when bach sounds all raspy and screamy it's because he HAS to to get the sound out. When James does it, it's because of a conscious decision <one that i wish he wouldn't make so often.> Just listen to Innocence Faded<yes,really>; that song has some of his highest recorded tones, and he sounds so clean and pure <like Ivory Soap...sorry>. My problem with James is that he tries too hard to sound like a "rock" singer, to the point that he loses his beautiful tone quality to a Sammy Hagar<more mnstrm> sound. But I like Sammy too; I don't know how he does it night after night. But James is the true master. Though I don't think anyone will ever surpass the almighty Geoff Tate, no one has ever had such an impact on my own singing as James LaBrie. And to those who will try to defend the bas w/ evidence of his 8 years of operatic training: Dave Mustaine could take lessons from Jose Carreras, Enrico Caruso, or the world's greatest voice master, and it would *still* not make him a singer.
-Nothin' like a great rock tenor!-
Steve Z
P.S. to all QR fans: You *must* hear the full band version of Someone Else. The only song to ever make me cry on one listen!
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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 16:12:37 EST -0500 From: "John Thompson" <JET@mhc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com, ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: New Keyboardest Message-ID: <EC866910F7@library.mhc.edu>
I was wondering if anyone has heard DT live since Kevin left? I've read that the new guy is pretty good, but I was wondering what you guys and gals think. They haven't toured down this way yet. Also another question. Is this guy going to stay with the band for the next album or are they going to find someone new?
Thanks for listening John Thompson Mars Hill College Mars Hill, NC
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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 15:51:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Fredrik Blomgren <F.Blomgren@computer-science.hull.ac.uk> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: DT in Manchester! Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950206154614.1803E-100000@burton>
Hi Jammers!
Can someone tell me when DT are playing in Manchester (UK). I'll be there NO MATTER WHAT!
/Fred
" I read somwhere to learn is to remember and I've learned we all forgot.. - KING'S X
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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 18:28:16 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Kevin Moore tape Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950206182513.13739B-100000@oak.liii.com>
Okay, I assume the only divisions now are east and west, so anyone on the East Coast who want a copy of the Kevin Moore tape, drop me a line. I have a few dubbed and ready to go, so mail me and I'll send you my address.
Andy
akeegan@liii.com ============================================================== "Emancipate yourself from "There's only one way mental slavery, of life, None but ourselves can free And that's your own" our mind" - B. Marley - Levellers ==============================================================
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Date: Mon, 06 Feb 1995 14:56:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "GENE (FILL IN THE BLANK) SZUCS" <SZUCSEUE@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Marty Friedman/Jason Becker Message-ID: <01HMQEENRHG2005NHQ@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu>
I am so glad to see that Friedman and Becker have subject appearances on the 'jam. These two Shrapnel artists are SCARY!! I've been listening to Cacophony for a few years now, and for all you melodic speed freaks out there, this group as well as Friedman's Dragon's Kiss and Becker's Perpetual Burn albums are for you. I just got Friedman's new effort, Introduction, and it has some really intricate melodies woven into it, with some good soloing to top it off. If you haven't heard either of these artists, your really missing something. -gene
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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 19:45:53 -0700 (MST) From: Brian Fieg <fieg@gn2.getnet.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Pull Me Under lyrics Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.90.950206194248.5952B-100000@gn2.getnet.com>
Hey all! I've always wondered this ever since I first heard the song. What does James say at the very end of Pull Me Under? One guy (I don't know if he reads this digest) emailed that they were backwards lyrics, but I checked it out and it's just as obscure backwards as it is forwards. Anybody have an answer?
=====Brian=====
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -Everybody wants to look the other way, O O Brian "BOB" when something wicked ! =================== this way comes. . . \_____/ fieg@gn2.getnet.com -R.B. -G.S. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ You're invited to finger: fieg@gn2.getnet.com
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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 22:06:43 -0500 From: jjens@site.gmu.edu (John Jens, Jr.) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: I need music help. Message-ID: <9502070306.AA18929@gmu.edu>
>Marillian: The only album I've found so far is Brave, which I haven't >seen mentioned here yet. Is it good? What are these guys like?
i *just* got Brave and Misplaced Childhood. i REALLY like Brave better. Marillion's kinda mellow, definately more prog rock than prog metal -- aka DT. lots of keyboards. overall, a very good album. MC, IMO, is weaker -- singing? i'm not sure yet. only listened to it about 10 times...still getting into these guys
>Magellan: Can't find them anywhere. What are they like?
heard OF them; never heard 'em :)
>Cacophony: Do you think I would like them? I get in the mood for speed >metal once in a while. What about Marty's solo stuff?
i listened to a friend's copy once. very good dual guitar work.
>Any others? Thank you all for the consideration. Wish me luck...
u might try a band called Sanctuary. i dont recall ever seeing their name here. i only have one of their CDs: Into the Mirror Black. it's pretty good. along the lines of progressive speed/thrash metal. i'm sure they have other albums out there. i also heard that they broke up and reformed under the name Nevermore, tho i'm not sure about this. anyone else know?
my life wud not be complete if i dint recommend Tool. yeah, these guys are a little strange, but i like it! they really aren't classifiable. they've released 2 CDs: Opiate (1992) and Undertow (1993). both are excellent. course, you may hate 'em :) if you want, check out they're web page. i have a link to it from my homepage -- http://www.site.gmu.edu/~jjens -- ok, so it was a shameless plug. so sue me. i cant remember every URL that i run into ;)
oh yeah, you might have heard of this other band that's really good. something like, Fatez Warning (?) check previous digests for info on them ;)
hope this helps :)
-john .............................................................................. John C. Jens, Jr. jjens@gmu.edu jensjr@tec.army.mil http://www.site.gmu.edu/~jjens/
"You've got to learn to let go. Just let go and experience the flight. Try to see from a different side." -"Global Mind" Queensryche _Promised Land_ ..............................................................................
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