YTSEJAM Digest 702
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Midwest dub site open
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
2) Re: DT as openers?
by HuntNKill@aol.com
3) Leviathan
by petedz@interaccess.com (Peter Dziadzka)
4) Tesla, Damn The Machine, Mekong Delta, German prog bands
by Siegfried Hanisch <hanisch@ci.tuwien.ac.at>
5) Re: DT as Openers
by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
6) HBB SUCKS!
by alfredo.cappello@galactica.it (ALFREDO CAPPELLO)
7) Re: names of machines
by "Jason K. Schechner" <jks2x@fermi.clas.virginia.edu>
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 697
by HuntNKill@aol.com
9) Images and Words song book
by HuntNKill@aol.com
10) Re: I&W Tablature Book
by Jonathan Larkowski <larkows3@nes.nersc.gov>
11) Re: albums with all good songs
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
12) Canadian dub site ready to go!
by Keast Michael J <4mjk@qlink.queensu.ca>
13) Re: albums with all good songs
by William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
14) Re: "Perfect" Albums
by William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
15) {Poll reminder
by pjhollow@microcity.com
16) Re: DT on HBB
by "Debra D. Hanson 813-332-1969" <HANSOND@mail.firn.edu>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 701
by Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
18) various topics + Watchtower
by Mats Rydstr\vm <d94-mry@nada.kth.se>
19) Re: YTSEJAM digest 701
by Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
20) Other...
by Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
21) RE: YTSEJAM digest 701
by LORDE ANDREW <DIXONAS@HIRAM.EDU>
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 15:51:20 -0600 (CST)
From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Midwest dub site open
Message-ID: <199502162151.PAA22646@galaxy.galstar.com>
> i will be taping as many as i can, probably <20. i prefer that people send
> me a SASE with a padded mailer and the blank enclosed. also as part of
> the deal, you can send an extra 110' tape or two, and i will send them back
> to you with a copy of my houston and/or san antonio dream theater DAT shows.
> just figured it is a good way for some of you to get a 1st generation quality
> bootleg in the same package, hence no extra postage. i will only do this
> for show or the other, (houston or san antonio or both) not for any other
> boots to keep things simple.
Which one was better? You are the closest dub site to me (Oklahoma) and
if you remember I couldn't go to the show cause I was under 18. :( Either
way, a tape of the show would be great? So, which one is better?
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 17:32:31 -0500
From: HuntNKill@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: DT as openers?
Message-ID: <950216163914_23551389@aol.com>
Dear jammers,
>>>No way would I want DT to open a show....even if they did tour with Van
Halen. You'd only get less than an hour of DT. What a bummer. I'd rather
see them headline and play a little under two hours. Actually, I'd really
crave for an "Evening with Dream Theater" with no opening act and a full 3
hour show which would include all of their songs and some covers as well.<<<
I wouldn't mind if Van Halen opened for Dream Theater ;)
Yours,
Jeff =)
<<<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<<<</-\-/-\-/-\>>>>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>>>
Jeff Chew is: "What a journey it has been
huntnkill@aol.com and the end is not in sight
But the stars are out tonight
"Hello, Newman." and they're bound to guide my way"
- Jerry Seinfeld - Lea Salonga
<<<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<<<<\-/-\-/-\-/>>>>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>>>
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 11:05:38 -0600
From: petedz@interaccess.com (Peter Dziadzka)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Leviathan
Message-ID: <199502161721.LAA03028@home.interaccess.com>
On Wed, 15 Feb 95 Ken Higginson wrote:
>Their two guitarists are pretty good, but their singer is plain bad.
>And their songs don't have the structure that Dream Theater or Fates
>Warning have. It's like everone is just playing something cool, they
>play it together, and call it a song.
A little harsh. The singer is generic, but not all that poor. The music
compares favorably with anything Fates did before Mark Zonder joined.
The song writing is rough around the edges, but it has some very cool
moments! This band has a great deal of potential. I think they will
develop into a force to be reckoned with.
Pete Dziadzka
petedz@interaccess.com
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 95 23:20:33 -0100
From: Siegfried Hanisch <hanisch@ci.tuwien.ac.at>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Tesla, Damn The Machine, Mekong Delta, German prog bands
Message-ID: <9502170732.AA0539@localhost>
Hi!
>> 11) Tesla - Mechanical Resonance (underrated, to be sure)
>Glad to see someone out there agrees with my that Mechanical Resonance
>is a great album, definitely Tesla's best album and definitely
>underrated. I continued to buy their albums (except the newest one)
>and none of them can compare to Mechanical Resonance.
Absoultely.
Besides, someone mentioned "Damn The Machine". One of the best records in '93. This was
Chris Poland's new band (Megadeth guitarist on their first and second (and IMO best)
album).
They opened for DT on their "Music in Progress" tour in Germany last year. I guess I
was the only one in the audience who new their record. I am very sorry that the band
does not exist any more.
Anyone know Mekong Delta? German (very) progressive thrash/metal.
Anyone know Sieges Even? German band too.
BTW, as mentioned in an earlier post, I have a HiFi stereo recording (VHS PAL system)
of DT on MTV HBB, and I can make HiFi stereo (VHS PAL) copies.
Greetings
Siegfried Hanisch
# They shoot without shame
-----------------------------# In the name of a piece of dirt
Siegfried Hanisch # For a change of accent
Internet: # Or the colour of your shirt
hanisch@ci.tuwien.ac.at # Better the pride that resides
e8925811@stud1.tuwien.ac.at # In a citizen of the world
-----------------------------# Than the pride that divides
Team OS/2 # When a colourful rag is unfurled RUSH
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 14:31:13 PST
From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: DT as Openers
Message-ID: <199502162231.OAA29152@netcom12.netcom.com>
If DT opened I wanna see them play SCARRED... that's all!!!
-The Doc
-- #$%*#$*@ REAL: drkhoe@netcom.com + VIRTUAL: drkhoe@gnu.ai.mit.edu *@#$*@#$ *$%&%#$* The Dream Theater Archives: ftp.netcom.com: /pub/dr/drkhoe/dt &*@#$*@$ **%^$#$% WWW: "ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/dr/drkhoe/www/dthome.html" #$**@#*$ *$*$*$*# Reality Enhancement Software - Engineering Reality *$&#*#@$------------------------------
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 95 19:27:00 +0100 From: alfredo.cappello@galactica.it (ALFREDO CAPPELLO) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: HBB SUCKS! Message-ID: <8A3A48F.000100AEDB.uuout@galactica.it>
Hi all, I've just seen the DT-HBB special. Reallly SHIT, only interviews and some short clip from the Cover Gig (approx 4 minutes overall) and from the Munich gig (4 minutes: Caught, 6:00) Many PromoClip (Lie,Another Day etc) and an interview with Fates Warning. I also have the other MTV special with live clips from the Los Angeles 94 show. If someone is really interested in this stuff I can convert on NTSC format. bye Alf
* Q-Blue 1.0 *
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 18:34:48 -0500 From: "Jason K. Schechner" <jks2x@fermi.clas.virginia.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: names of machines Message-ID: <199502162334.SAA100674@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU>
A few years ago my school (from which I've since graudated :-)) set up a new lab of suns and they took suggestions as to the names. The favorite suggestion was to name them after drugs (I can see it now: "Hey, I'm writting this letter while I'm on crack!") but the school wasn't so thrilled about it. I think they compromised and named a few after beers. I'd prefer names like 'Ibanez', 'Yamaha', 'Tama', 'Fender', 'Gibson', 'Roland' etc.
-Jason
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 18:57:23 -0500 From: HuntNKill@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 697 Message-ID: <950216163916_23551425@aol.com>
Dear jammers,
I'll dub for anyone in the U.S. Just drop me a line at huntnkill@aol.com
Yours, Jeff =)
<<<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<<<</-\-/-\-/-\>>>>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>>> Jeff Chew is: "What a journey it has been huntnkill@aol.com and the end is not in sight But the stars are out tonight "Hello, Newman." and they're bound to guide my way" - Jerry Seinfeld - Lea Salonga <<<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<<<<\-/-\-/-\-/>>>>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>>>
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 18:57:39 -0500 From: HuntNKill@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Images and Words song book Message-ID: <950216163919_23551458@aol.com>
Dear jammers,
One of my friends told me that the I&W tab book is out in the states. I'm not too sure if he's right, but if I were you, I'd rush to the nearest music store!
Yours, Jeff =)
<<<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<<<</-\-/-\-/-\>>>>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>>> Jeff Chew is: "What a journey it has been huntnkill@aol.com and the end is not in sight But the stars are out tonight "Hello, Newman." and they're bound to guide my way" - Jerry Seinfeld - Lea Salonga <<<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<==<<<<\-/-\-/-\-/>>>>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>==>>>
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 95 17:07:15 PST From: Jonathan Larkowski <larkows3@nes.nersc.gov> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: I&W Tablature Book Message-ID: <9502170107.AA21046@nes.nersc.gov>
PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! Tell us more about this book! Anything: where you found it, the ISBN, what songs are in it, what's transcribed, ANYTHING!
THANK YOU!
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 20:07:11 -0600 (CST) From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: albums with all good songs Message-ID: <199502170207.UAA02691@galaxy.galstar.com>
> This brings me to my final pet peeve. People who don't have minds of their > own. They hear a song on the radio 3 times an hour, and then decide they like > it. Pop radio controls what songs people will like, not the other way around. > This is why I admire the rest of you ytsejammers. You buy albums, not based on > radio airplay, but ON WHAT YOU LIKE! Because let's face it, good bands like > Dream Theater, Queensryche, Rush etc.. don't get much airplay(except maybe on > Zrock). One of the reasons ytsejam is so great is because we can hear about > good bands that we might not hear of any other way. So keep those opinions > coming!
Yes! I think exactly like you. I love debating this with my parents and sisters. (My sister is the worst what you mention, althought she doesn't even buy singles or albums. She has one album.) She just listens to the radio (not most of the time though) and likes the songs she likes because "everyone" else does. Its the everyone's doing it phrase again. I said, (and all of this is just guess, in the heat of a bitter (ah, how dramatic) argument) "95 percent of the people listen only to what is played on the radio because, a) that's all they are exposed to, and because b) since the radio playes it, and radio personalities, such as Casey Casin "love" what they play, people think that if it is good enough for the almighty Casey, it is good enough for them." She then eneptly pointed out that everyone likes Boys 2 Men, and they got a grammy, and some other shit like that, so she concludes that they must be good. My mom backs her up, and says yes William, they're not in it for the money, they are musicans who love to sing. Bullshit, there are singers millions of times better than them, they are in it for the money and fame. "I Want to Make Love to You," yeah, just for your money, the fucking bastards. "Selling skin, Selling God, the numbers look the same on their credit cards." Could this analogy even be transfered into the music industrial? It is one of the most corrupt instiutions I know of, where people who "ride" the wave of a popular style get rich, not the people who thought it up. This could even be said so for religions. The ministers of your local churches are the people who do the real work, the people on TV are the ones who make the money and do little work at all (except sleep with a whore.) I then point out to my sister that Michael Jacksons "Thriller" sold 14 million copies, the highest selling album of all time. I asked her, "Could 14 million people be wrong?" You fuckin bet they could, but that wasn't my intention. What she said next was. "That music is old, no one likes it any more." No shit, thats all trendy music is, popular for only a length of time. The "Superstars" of the 80s aren't even remembered by their dearest fans any more. And with all of this, the thing I dispise most is the people who listen to music only to become popular, or accepted within a crowd or group. I would wager 25 percent of the people at my school come dressed in "altnerative drag" (the best words to describe it) but you know what I mean, the flanel, the same shit that used to be so unpopular a few years ago is now the rage. Why? Because of people like Curt Kobain, a true "Martyr without a cause." Maybe he unlike so many else, acutally saw the shit that happens in the music industry, came to realize what was happening, and did the only thing, and in turn, the wrong thing to do. For it is him that brought the alternative scene upon us. And now, perhaps to Curts disliking, wherever he may be, that it is bands riding the wave of altnerative music just to make money or be famous, teen-idols. However, history will repeat itself, and the industry will become saturated with too much alternative, we will then truely need an altnerative, and will seek another trendy type of music. Who knows what it will be, and, for that matter who cares? In truth, the 3-Chord procession has been played far too long to be fresh, and yet it is the only thing that seems to sell. It is a trite expression of the greediness that so many musicans have sold their souls for, an eneptness of Generation X and the countless impressionable generations before us, a lust so many good musicans have sold out to. Yet, for all the lackluster avarice in the music industry, there is something worse. And that is the people who sell their individuality, their thoughts, their dreams, everything, to the collective force out there that seizes people up who are not strong enough, not brave enough to be their own person. It is the weak people, which is most, perhaps all of us, who keep the music industries, and all industries like it, such as fashion, alive. The people afraid of what other people think about them, afraid of how people precieve them, are the people who feed the powerhungry individuals of our schools, our communinty, our music industry, our goverment, and our world.
Thank you for paying attention to my long winded message.
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 21:23:11 -0500 (EST) From: Keast Michael J <4mjk@qlink.queensu.ca> To: Dream Theater mailing list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Canadian dub site ready to go! Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9502162105.A6015-0100000@qlink>
Attention Canadian 'Jammers!
I have received my copy of "Music Meant To Be Heard", and I am ready to start dubbing for people in my area. I am in Kingston, Ontario, so I can dub for anyone in Ontario, and I'm willing to expand elsewhere if the demand is there. If you're interested, email me at:
My policy is pretty much the same as everyone else's: you send me a tape and postage (or just money to cover all my expenses) and I send you a copy of the demos. Now listen up, because this is very important: I am leaving this Saturday morning to go home for Spring Break, where I will have no 'net access whatsoever. If you send me your request by about midnight on Friday Feb. 17, I will make your dub while I am home so I can send it to you as soon as possible. If I haven't got your request by Friday night, it will be more than a week before I even know you're interested, so act now!!
Mike Keast Queen's University Kingston, Ontario 4mjk@qlink.queensu.ca
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 17:17:49 -0500 (EST) From: William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: albums with all good songs Message-ID: <YjEwwBe00YUzQVNvxO@andrew.cmu.edu>
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Philip_Schroeder@baylor.edu writes: > This brings me to my final pet peeve. People who don't have minds of the\ > ir > own. They hear a song on the radio 3 times an hour, and then decide they like > it. Pop radio controls what songs people will like, not the other way around.\
i hate people who try to be 'nonconformists' and 'underground' by declariing that they're huge fans of, oh say, nirvana or green day or the offspring. i mean, its labeled alternative, but really, how much more mainstream can you go?? even *poison* is more underground than those bands... and the offspring song i hear was just smells like teen sprit with different chords
under brooding skies and watchful eyes-william-bajzek-impaler@cmu.edu on convulsive seas of false urgency-----http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu we walk empty corridors in vain--------derek-------.edu/usr/wb2a/home -cds for sale: http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/u/wb2a/cdsale.html- guitars, not-very-impressive backing vocals, and songwriter, aepithex
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 17:21:13 -0500 (EST) From: William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: "Perfect" Albums Message-ID: <gjEwzNG00YUz4VNwkL@andrew.cmu.edu>
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hmm... just to get in on this because i'm bored
images and words - dt perfect symmetry, no exit, parallels, inside out, awaken the guardian, the spectre within - fates warning welcome to the moonlight circus - black jester nothingface, dimension hatross, war and pain, the killing technology - -voivod live, foxtrot, a trick of the tail - genesis covenant - morbid angel human, individual thought patterns - death beyond the crimson horizon - solitude aeturnus
damn, now i'm bored again. bye
under brooding skies and watchful eyes-william-bajzek-impaler@cmu.edu on convulsive seas of false urgency-----http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu we walk empty corridors in vain--------derek-------.edu/usr/wb2a/home -cds for sale: http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/u/wb2a/cdsale.html- guitars, not-very-impressive backing vocals, and songwriter, aepithex
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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 19:41:24 -0800 From: pjhollow@microcity.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: {Poll reminder Message-ID: <9502162100.D6555Gc@microcty.uu.holonet.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 95 21:00:18 EST
Just thought I'd remind everyone about the Dream Theater Song poll. Polling will end on Feb 20th. If you'd like to contribute, but haven't had the chance,just do the following:
send me rankings for all the released Dream Theater songs you wish to rank; rankings should be between 0 and 10, and under 2 catgories, the musical value, and the lyrical value.
You can also list your favourite live DT song, and which instrument you play (if any) at the bottom of your message.
Thanks to everyone who has contributed so far!!
(I thought I'd save the list the agony of the 'official' poll preview and form this time :)
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Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 06:29:59 EST From: "Debra D. Hanson 813-332-1969" <HANSOND@mail.firn.edu> To: "ytsejam@arastar.com" <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: DT on HBB Message-ID: <D261ZVQC9BTFV*/R=FIRNVX/R=A1/U=HANSOND/@MHS>
AOR means album-oriented rock.
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Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 07:13:52 -0500 (EST) From: Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 701 Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.90.950217071131.21248B-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
Regarding This:
"I don't know if you already discussed it, but I ALWAYS wondered what happened to the end of Pull Me Under. It seems to be cut as if they forgot to fade out while mastering the CD. I can't imagine that it is meant to be this way. Is it only on the European version? Tell me!"
Actually, according to Mike Portnoy, he told me that they indeed STOPPED playing at that particular point. This WAS a conscious choice that they made.
If you go see them live they end the song the same way.
When I started recommending that album to my friends before it came out, I neglected to mention that ending, knowing what I knew. I got all this email asking if there was a defect with their cd. =)
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Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 13:24:19 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Rydstr\vm <d94-mry@nada.kth.se> To: Ytsejam mailing-list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: various topics + Watchtower Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91N2.950217124054.10672A-100000@mumrik.nada.kth.se>
Here are some possible answers to some questions that seem to reappear.
#1: People keep asking about UK dates but I think it's official that DT cancelled all UK dates except for London because of the extremely high costs, (don't know why the costs for touring the UK would be larger than elsewhere). #2: The Van Halen thing. At least it's confirmed that Van Halen WILL tour europe this summer together with Bon Jovi, that tour does NOT include Dream Theater, if this is the case with the US I don't know. #3: Pull Me Under is supposed to end that way, short and abrupt. Why would they play it like that live if it was just an error.
Ok gotta go but first:
I've sampled about three minutes of the Watchtower song 'The Fall Of Reason' from their 1989 album 'Control And Resistance' and put it on my web page. I'll keep it there for some weeks so if you want to check out Watchtower just find my WWW-page, (check the sig), and look somewhere on the first page. It's the best song of the album IMO with decent vocals, singing instead of yelling. It differs in that way from most of the other songs on the album so if you go out and buy it be prepared for songs not this accessable. I only had space for 3 minutes, all in all the song is 8 minutes long.
________________________________________________________________________ / Mats Rydstrom - d94-mry@nada.kth.se - http://www.nada.kth.se/~d94-mry / /-----------------------------------------------------------------------/ / "We can hope for the future, though there may not be one" - ACOS / /_______________________________________________________________________/
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Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 07:28:12 -0500 (EST) From: Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 701 Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.90.950217071727.21248C-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
Hey all... Just joined the digest and I'm looking forward to interesting discussions. =)
I'm a musician myself. I also was a college DJ here in Philadelphia. My ex-roommate, back in spring of '92, i believe, gave me a cassette, and said, "Here, you'll like these guys; they sound like Rush." I popped the cassette into my boom-box (since I had mom's car at the time, and there's no tape deck in there), and started listening.
I don't think I need to tell you the name of the band. =)
Anyway, about mid-way through my trip home, I flipped the tape, and started listening to side 2. I almost got into an accident, no joke. I was so amazed at what I was hearing, I was staring at the boom-box on the back seat in disbelief, and almost ran my mom's car off the road. My pulse went soaring. When I got back, I wasn't done listening to the tape yet. I took the boom-box inside the house, (this was at about 4:30am), and popped my headphones into it, and finished out the tape before I could get to sleep.
This began my obsession with Dream Theater. The next week, I insisted that we play something off of this advance cassette (I&W), and, I don't think I missed a week for over a year. We started reporting that album in our top 5 to the radio trade magazines, for almost as long. That August, I get the opportunity to talk to Mike Portnoy via the phone. We got along great, and had more of a conversation than an interview. (philosophical stuff, in a way.) I met Mike about a month later, I think, at this little club they played at here in Philly. He remembered me, and we chatted there. I saw them two more times after that, and got back to talk to him, and John P. However, the thing that really made me feel all gooey inside was meeting their manager, introducing myself (as Hairball), and him saying, "Hey, I know you...your name's gone across my desk a few times. Thanks for being the only real radio support we've had in Philly." I melted, beamed, and knew I'd done something good. =)
Also ran into Mike at Foundations forum, '93. Suprisingly, he still remembered me. I'm personally suprised I recognized him, as obliterated as I was at the time. =)
Anyway, needless to say, Ray Koob, who has a metal show on the 20-billion watt radio station in town, wound up with his name on the thanx list. =) I don't care - I know I did some good in my own way.
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Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 07:32:03 -0500 (EST) From: Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Other... Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.90.950217072818.21248D-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
While talking to one of the guys who is a rep for the atlantic group, (mind you this conversation went on in Sept. of '93), I asked him why the live EP wasn't going to be released here in the states.
His response: "What if we put out that CD here, and it only sold 100,000 copies. What would that look like for them? A failure."
At that time, he disclosed that I&W had sold 350,000 copies, and their plans to release the Zep box set (the one with all their albums in it) in time for X-mas, and, the Unplugged session. <shrug>
When I ran into mike, someone approached him and asked how many copies I&W had sold. "I dunno, 300,000?" I told him what the guy had told me. (Did I mention i was OBLITERATED?) Mike: "There ya go. 350,000."
Anyway, thought that was an amusing aside. =)
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Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 9:40:12 -0500 (EST) From: LORDE ANDREW <DIXONAS@HIRAM.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 701 Message-ID: <950217094012.2140592b@HIRAM.EDU>
> From: SMTP%"ytsejam@arastar.com" 17-FEB-1995 06:00:54.70 > To: DIXONAS > CC: > Subj: YTSEJAM digest 701 > > Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 03:01:23 +0800 > Errors-To: kbibb@arastar.com, jhough@qualcomm.com > Message-Id: <199502162141.PAA22484@galaxy.galstar.com> > Errors-To: ytsejam-owner@arastar.com > Reply-To: ytsejam@arastar.com > Originator: ytsejam@arastar.com > Sender: ytsejam@arastar.com > Precedence: bulk > From: ytsejam@arastar.com > To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> > Subject: YTSEJAM digest 701 > X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas > X-Comment: Dream Theater List > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] > content-length: 33991 > > YTSEJAM Digest 701 > > Today's Topics: > > 1) Re: Holy Shit!! > by jbako01 <jbako01@barney.poly.edu> > 2) Re: Nay Vote for Magellan (don't give up on prog!) > by <schew@tis.com> > 3) PMU and Duesseldorf Show > by sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch) > 4) Scarred > by Jarrod Kamsey-Lewis <jarrodk@up.edu> > 5) Midwest Dub site > by whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White) > 6) Re: non-dt threads & machine names > by John B Ashcraft <jbashcra@uncc.edu> > 7) RE: LiT Copies > by kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb) > 8) Re: Holy Shit!! > by "George Bast (CS)" <bast@babbage.csee.usf.edu> > 9) a kick into a dream > by basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de (Bernd Basmer) > 10) Surrounded LIVE > by "Marquering, W." <WMA@eim.nl> > 11) Computer names > by Russ Yuncker <ry@death.res-hall.nwu.edu> > 12) Flaming for LiT > by Shawna Lea of the Many Nicknames <SADAMS1@WELLESLEY.EDU> > 13) Re: PMU and Duesseldorf Show > by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> > 14) names of machines > by John Mastin <jmastin@motown.ge.com> > 15) Van Halen... > by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> > 16) DT concert (spoiler alert) > by "Marquering, W." <WMA@eim.nl> > 17) I&W Tablature Book > by James Utz <utz@pcbuoa.enet.dec.com> > 18) Southwest dub site (repeat) > by Michelle Garcia <garcia@sluggo.sdsc.edu> > 19) Derek in "Wayne's World"? > by JennieBear@aol.com > 20) RE: Van Halen (Sorry non-DT) > by BOB HOLDER <BH7314@LUNDY.NIAGARAC.ON.CA> > 21) albums with all good songs > by Philip_Schroeder@baylor.edu > 22) "Perfect" Albums > by Anthony <AKOZAR@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU> > 23) Van Halen, KM Demos, etc... > by LORDE ANDREW <DIXONAS@HIRAM.EDU> > 24) TIM LODGE > by Michael Herring <mpherrin@mtu.edu> > 25) DT as Openers > by "james (j.) wolf" <jwolf@bnr.ca> > 26) Brittish tour dates? > by D.L.Powell-CSSE94@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk > 27) Re: DT on HBB > by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 20:12:23 -0500 (EST) > From: jbako01 <jbako01@barney.poly.edu> > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: Re: Holy Shit!! > Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950215201057.15661C-100000@barney> > > On Wed, 15 Feb 1995, Richard A. Rivera wrote: > > > > > > > > > Can anyone else confirm that Van Halen and Bon Jovi are going to > > be co-headlining? How is that possible, seeing as how Van Halen's album is > > already out and Bon Jovi is most likely still recording theirs? If it > > does end up being true (perhaps later in the year), that will be one hell > > of a show. Any info. is appreciated. > > > > Yep, it's going to happen around summertime (prob. June-August), by then, > Bon Jovi's album will (should) be done. > > The tour lineup (tentatively) is VH and BJ as co-headliners, and The Cult > opening. > > I've mentioned this before but what the hell, a little clarification > can't hurt. > > > Later all, > > James Bako > jbako01@barney.poly.edu > Polytechnic University > Brooklyn, New York > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 17:19:04 -0500 (EST) > From: <schew@tis.com> > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: Re: Nay Vote for Magellan (don't give up on prog!) > Message-ID: <5278.9502152219@ragnarok.tis.com> > > >>-------------------- > >>Douglas Slauson said: > >> > >> Hi all, I recently picked up a copy of Magellan's _Impending > >>Ascension_ cd, and I've listened to it about ten times. What can I > >>say? I guess the prog rock genre just isn't for me. These guys > >>really remind me of Yes, especially the vocals. I found the vocals > >>to be very annoying, and I didn't like the dominance of the keybords > >>over the guitar. There were a few passages scattered about that > >>were a little more to my tastes, but it was too long in between them. > >>Also, the music seemed to be too "happy" for me; I prefer darker, > >>more depressed music. > >> > >> I will say that the songs were well crafted, though, and if > >>you're into prog rock, I'm sure you'll like this disc. > >> > >> After trying Marillion's _Misplaced Childhood_ and now Magellan, I > >>think it's safe to say that the prog rock genre is not for me. > >>------------------- > >> > >But wait! There is so much prog rock to explore don't give up yet! > >The two groups you mentioned are in a sub-category called neo-progressive, > >which focus on lush keyboards and a bit more commercial than other types > >of prog, like symphonic, space rock, canterbury, fusion-oriented, Italian, etc. > >If you like dark music I can recommend stuff that will frighten small children > >and animals! (Il Balletto di Bronzo, King Crimson, some Anglagard come to > >mind). > > > >What do you like for music? Maybe I could recommend something that you > >would like. Check out the Giblartar Encyclopedia of Progressive Rock > >to find something more to your liking..... > > > >If you like creativity and originality in music there is some prog band > >that will suit your liking! That is what prog is all about fot the most part. > > > > Doug, > Well, I'm sorry to hear that you didn't like Magellan, but I'm glad > you gave them a decent chance. I do agree with Rob though -- don't give up > on prog rock quite yet. If you prefer darker music, with dominant guitar, > then you should definitely try the band Anekdoten. They create a dark, moody > atmosphere on their album "Vemod" that you might like. I love it. King > Crimson's "Red" might also be a good one to try, and Anglagard and Il Balletto > di Bronzo are both wonderful (though maybe not quite as dark as the previous > two). There is so much variety out there in prog rock that just sampling two > bands would not do it justice. If you like more experimental style music then > get Univers Zero's "Heresie" which is one of the darkest albums I've ever > heard (it's also fairly bizzare though). > I'd recommend trying Anekdoten first and then some of the others too. > The above bands are very hard to find in stores (except for King > Crimson). But, you can mail-order any of those albums (and many other hard- > to-find prog albums) from the following places: > > > Of Sound Mind -- owner: Chris Lamka -- (410) 529-7082 > > "Of Sound Mind" is a store in Baltimore, MD that specializes in > getting hard-to-find progressive rock. They also do mail-order so you can > just call to ask what they have in stock. They can get any of the above > albums even if they don't have them in stock. They are also reliable. > > > Other places: > > THE LASER'S EDGE > PO BOX 3128, Hoboken, NJ 07030 > 201-656-2112 (6PM to 10PM EST, No Later !!!) > email: lasercd@aol.com > > The Laser's Edge often has a large number of the above albums already > in stock, so they are also a good place to try. You can send them email or > call. > > > Good luck and let me know if you decide to try any more albums... > > Steve > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 02:12:32 +0100 (MEZ) > From: sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch) > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: PMU and Duesseldorf Show > Message-ID: <9502160112.AA63853@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de> > > Hi there! > > Besides all the actually usual stuff on the list like best-album-ever etc., > a question concerning IAW. > > I don't know if you already discussed it, but I ALWAYS wondered what happened > to the end of Pull Me Under. It seems to be cut as if they forgot to fade > out while mastering the CD. I can't imagine that it is meant to be this way. > Is it only on the European version? Tell me! > > Steffen Barabasch <sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de> > > PS: I can't resist. Some of MY all time favorites: Marillion - Clutching At > Straws, The Doors - L.A. Woman, Queen II, Temple Of The Dog, Slayer - Reign > In Blood and Enya - Watermark... oops... > > PPS: OH! I nearly forgot to tell you shortly about the show in Duesseldorf, > Germany (11-Feb). On the way to the hall (Philipshalle) we were asked, if > we would sell our tickets... That means there were AT LEAST 5000 fans, > maybe a lot more. James said during the show, that this was the biggest > crowd they ever played before in Europe! The show was great, incl. COOL > Damage Inc. (Metallica) instumental coverversion right before Erotomania, > and Perfect Strangers before Metropolis. No Scarred, no surprises. The > people there were VERY calm, just watching DT on stage. So did I, waiting > for John Myung's bass-tapping in Metropolis... Cool show, although they > seemed to have some minor problems. > > Fates Warning... mmh. I only listened to one or two older albums long time > ago, so I can't tell you much about them. They sounded to my like Queens- > ryche ten years ago, sorry! But indeed, Mark Zonder is excellent. And he > had the best live snare-sound I can remember, even much better than DT's > this evening. > > That's it for now! > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 18:05:43 -0800 (PST) > From: Jarrod Kamsey-Lewis <jarrodk@up.edu> > To: DREAM THEATER <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> > Subject: Scarred > Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950215180018.3207B-100000@upsun26.up.edu> > > > > Recently, I have been listening to "Scarred" quite a bit. I have > noticed a strangly familiar melody in the song, an I am wondering if > other Yjammers have heard the same. I think at about 5:30 in the song > (although I'm not totally sure), the "Wheel of Fortune" theme song can be > heard. Am I hearing things wrong, or is the "Wheel of Fortune" theme song > supposed to have some deeper meaning on the song that I am unaware of? > > > > Jarrod Ramsey-Lewis > University of Portland > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 95 22:21:20 EST > From: whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White) > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: Midwest Dub site > Message-ID: <9502160321.AA10019@mary.cs.fredonia.edu> > > Hi ytsejammers, > I've recently become a Midwest dub site. (don't let my email address > fool ya :). I'm in Minneapolis, and I'll take dub requests from MN and > the surrounding states. Mail me and we'll set something up (most likely > blank tape + envelope, but we'll discuss it :) > However, don't mail m{e at this address (too many mailing lists, and > I don't read it all the time :) Your best bet is to mail me at the > following address: > dayx0017@gold.tc.umn.edu > It'[s not my account, but I use it, and if I don't read it, it will be > saved for me, so either way, you'll get in touch with me :) Thank{s > a lot! > {**********************************************************************} > {************************** Christopher White *************************} > {******************** whit8275@mary.cs.fredonia.edu *******************} > {----------------------------------------------------------------------} > {-------- The Automated Purity Test version 2 is now finished! -------} > {-------- Email me with the subject PURITY TEST (or something -------} > {-------- like that to get my attention :) and I'll give you -------} > {------------------------ info or a copy of it! -----------------------} > {----------------------------------------------------------------------} > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 23:09:51 -0500 > From: John B Ashcraft <jbashcra@uncc.edu> > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: Re: non-dt threads & machine names > Message-ID: <199502160409.XAA05705@unccsun.uncc.edu> > > I agree completely I saw what people talked about in the DT newgroup, and all > they do is talk crap to each other! I think the freedom and openmindedness is what makes this list great! Just my 2 cents. > > Thanks > > Trey > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 22:14:38 +0800 > From: kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb) > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: RE: LiT Copies > Message-ID: <9502160614.AA11542@anthor.arastar.com> > > > > From: TTubbiola@aol.com > > > > I hope nobody is going to buy bootlegged copies of an official DT release!!! > [deleted] > > The person who offered the videos has unsubscribed himself from the list > (after posting that he wasn't going to copy the video). I think that this > was a case where he didn't realize that what he was suggesting was illegal > (though I can't prove that). Kev's meant well in the past anyways... > > -- > Ken Bibb "Upon a wave of summer > kbibb@arastar.com A hilltop paved with gold > jester@crash.cts.com We shut our eyes and make the promises we hold" > David Sylvian--"Wave" > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 00:32:13 -0500 (EST) > From: "George Bast (CS)" <bast@babbage.csee.usf.edu> > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> > Subject: Re: Holy Shit!! > Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950216002307.22281A-100000@babbage> > > > > On Wed, 15 Feb 1995, Richard A. Rivera wrote: > > > > > > > > > Can anyone else confirm that Van Halen and Bon Jovi are going to > > be co-headlining? How is that possible, seeing as how Van Halen's album is > > already out and Bon Jovi is most likely still recording theirs? If it > > does end up being true (perhaps later in the year), that will be one hell > > of a show. Any info. is appreciated. > > > > Richie > > rrivera@moose.uvm.edu > > Going aside from DT matter, this info is NOT true; at least not for the > first leg of Van Halen's tour. I have already purchased VH tickets for > an April show in St. Pete and not a mention of Bon Jovi was heard. And > chances are, they probably won't be added for the first leg, since I paid > $28.50 for the tix and a co-headlining tour would cost more, I would expect. > > Beyond the first leg, any speculation goes. > > Hope this cleared this matter up. > > Later on, Jammers... > > geo > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 16 Feb 95 07:35:44 +0100 > From: basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de (Bernd Basmer) > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: a kick into a dream > Message-ID: <9502160635.AA12050@krzsun.med-rz.uni-sb.de> > > YES! It's me again. > > I wonder if there is any GERMAN Ytsejammer who can tell me where > I can buy this 2CD named 'A KICK INTO A DREAM'. As far as I know > this is a bootleg taken from the current AWAKE-tour and I WANT IT !! > > Thanks. > > > Bernd. > > > ********************************************************************** > L E T T H E L I G H T S U R R O U N D Y O U ! > **************************************************************** DT ** > > \||/ basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de Bernd Basmer > -00- Zentrum fuer Informations- und > -__- Kommunikationstechnik > Homburg/Saar > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 95 13:59:00 GMT > From: "Marquering, W." <WMA@eim.nl> > To: ytsejam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> > Subject: Surrounded LIVE > Message-ID: <2F43192D@eim.nl> > > > I've got a theory about DT not playing Surrounded anymore. > > I assume James must dislike playing this song live. The mellow > parts in the beginning and the end especially. This conclusion is > based on my experience at the Nottingham gig , last year. James > left the stage after someone in the audience kept on screaming during > this parts. James seemed to be really pissed off and didn't return within > the next 30 minutes. (DT played some instrumental songs) > In order to prevent this happening again they probably just skipped > the song. > Just a thought... > > Wessel Marquering > wma@eim.nl The Netherlands > > PS. Tonight is the big night: FW and DT in Holland (I'm already nervous!!!) > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 16 Feb 95 2:51:20 +0000 > From: Russ Yuncker <ry@death.res-hall.nwu.edu> > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: Computer names > Message-ID: <9502161051.AA0206@> > > Sorry to continue a non-DT thread, but here at Northwestern the PCs > in our main lab are Star Trek characters (worf, scotty, etc.) and our > servers are named after Evanston restaurants (Lulu, Merle, Casbah). > Also, I named my PC Death and the person across from me is Chaos. > > Russ > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 07:51:26 -0500 (EST) > From: Shawna Lea of the Many Nicknames <SADAMS1@WELLESLEY.EDU> > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: Flaming for LiT > Message-ID: <01HN3YJ1B2EQ8X5VBC@WELLESLEY.EDU> > > I really feel sorry for this guy. I don't think he realized that what he > was doing was really so bad. But I think that if anyone has his address, I > would suggest that once this dies down someone should invite him back on > the list. I don't think he'll make the same mistake again... > > just my lim 1/x cents, (cheap eh?) > x goes to infinity > > > Thanks, > > Shawna Lea Adams > Muireann MacOisdealblaigh > drealla@spike.wellesley.edu > sadams1@wellesley.edu > > Love is an act of blood and I'm bleeding > A pool in the shape of a heart. > Beauty's projection in the reflection > Always the worst way to start. > -"Space-Dye Vest" Dream Theater _Awake_ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 07:06:51 -0600 (CST) > From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: Re: PMU and Duesseldorf Show > Message-ID: <199502161306.HAA13430@galaxy.galstar.com> > > > > > Hi there! > > > > I don't know if you already discussed it, but I ALWAYS wondered what happened > > to the end of Pull Me Under. It seems to be cut as if they forgot to fade > > out while mastering the CD. I can't imagine that it is meant to be this way. > > Is it only on the European version? Tell me! > > I have always thought it to be intentional, like the person listening (or > perhaps singing) dies very quickly. And they play it like this live also > (as seen on LitM and on LiT. > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 08:14:07 -0500 > From: John Mastin <jmastin@motown.ge.com> > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: names of machines > Message-ID: <199502161314.IAA05786@cybertron> > > I was reading the posts about naming machines after musical bands. > Where I work now, machine names are basically anything goes. Anything > from presidents to cars to beers to names of boats to names of nordic > gods. What is wild is that we have Elvis here. So when you *ping Elvis* > you get *Elvis is alive* back. Ha, ha, ha. Anyway, where I used to work, > they had one of the coolest naming conventions. They named all of the > machines after planets, both fictional and real ones. Pretty crazy to > be on Vulcan one minute and then Saturn the next and then even off to > Cybertron and Spaceball! > > Just me and my two cents! > > Johnny > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 09:29:31 -0500 (EST) > From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam SERVER) > Subject: Van Halen... > Message-ID: <199502161429.JAA24909@opal.cs.brandeis.edu> > > Since there seems to be some discussion latly about Van Halen, I > though that I'd post this... They are not really opening for Bon Jovi > in Europe, rather doing something like the Monsters Of Rock thing... > In the US, they will be headlining... Rumors are that the Cult will > be opening for them... All of this information was obtained from the > Van Halen digest, which is similar to the format of Ytsejam. You can > subscribe by sending mail to listproc@cornell.edu with no subject (I > guess asdf would work, as it does at arastar) with the body reading: > > subscribe vanhalen-l FIRSTNAME LASTNAME > > replacing first and last name w/ your name. > > One early warning is that there are some really immatture people over > there that like to keep a constant flame war over going between who is > "better", Sammy or DLR... If you can learn to filter that out, it > isn't too bad. > > Also, they are using newer listserv software, which for some reason > doesn't default to a digest every 1000 lines, rather 1 per day, so if > you get the digest format, be prepared for a digest size ranging frmo > 2500-4500 lines. > > -- > +----------------------------------------+----------------+---------+ > | And I'll smile and learn to pretend | Dream Theater | Michael | > | And I'll never be open again | Space Dye Vest | Burstin | > | And I'll have no more dreams to defend |-----Awake------+---------+ > | And I'll never be open again | Pgh Penguins: 11-0-1 | > +----------------------------------------+--------------------------+ > For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu > http://cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/home.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 16 Feb 95 11:10:00 GMT > From: "Marquering, W." <WMA@eim.nl> > To: ytsejam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> > Subject: DT concert (spoiler alert) > Message-ID: <2F4384BD@eim.nl> > > > Wow, > > The concert yesterday was simply great! > Fates Warning really surprised me: great to watch > M. Zonder playing the drums the way he did. > > DT had some surprises in the show: > Surrounded, instrumental version of Damage inc. from > Metallica (James told me he didn't sing because he > didn't know the lyrics), two encores and funeral for a friend from > Elton John. I never heard this song before, James > told me afterwards. > The sound was outstanding! > Two hours after the show we talked with James and John M. > They signed my awake poster and they took the time to answer > a lot of questions. > James enjoyed the cover gig very much, they taped the show, > but it won't be released :( > Also they're not certain about recording the EP. The reason: > DT is afraid releasing too much material. They WILL however > release ACoS sometime in the future!!! > I was wearing my ytsejam shirt and asked James whether he > knew the existance of us. He laughed and took off his jacket: > he wore his ytsejam shirt!!!!!!! > He told me to say Hi to all the people of ytse jam. > > I brought some back issues of ytse jam to give these to > DT. The tour manager was REALLY happy to receive > those and told me DT enjoys reading them. He's > really cool ! > Mike did the co-engineering of the silent man video. > > Must go now! more to come later. > > > Wessel Marquering > (wma@eim.nl) The Netherlands > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:11:55 EST > From: James Utz <utz@pcbuoa.enet.dec.com> > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: I&W Tablature Book > Message-ID: <9502161506.AA04325@us4rmc.pko.dec.com> > > > Hello all, > Last Sunday I bought an Images And Words tablature book. It is not > an import, and I bought it at a large music store (I mean a store that > sells lots of sheet music, not records) here in the US. I don't have the > info (ISBN#, publisher, etc.), but it was published by one of the major tab > book vendors. I'll post the info if people want to know. > > James > utz@pcbuoa.enet.dec.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 08:34:11 -0800 (PST) > From: Michelle Garcia <garcia@sluggo.sdsc.edu> > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> > Subject: Southwest dub site (repeat) > Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9502160840.B22423-0100000@sluggo.sdsc.edu> > > On Wed, 15 Feb 1995, Ken Higginson wrote: > > > I live in Colorado... Is there a dub site for the Moore demos out here? > > There shore is y'all! Once again I'm in Southern California and > ready to dub Kevin Moore's demos. Email me at garcia@sdsc.edu > > I've got some ready to go and I would also like to trade for > tapes or blanks. See ya! > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Michelle Garcia {{{{}}}} University of California, San Diego > San Diego Supercomputer Center USA email: garcia@sdsc.edu > { > "As a child, I thought I could live without pain > without sorrow..." - John Petrucci, DREAM THEATER } > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 20:10:45 -0500 > From: JennieBear@aol.com > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: Derek in "Wayne's World"? > Message-ID: <950215195149_22638101@aol.com> > > The following appeared in Ytsejam #699: > > >>> Steve Z > > > > PS-Anyone looked in _Wayne's_World_ for Derek Sherinian yet? I keep > meaning > > to whenever I go home, but haven't gotten around to it. > > I saw the part this weekend when Wayne and Garth went to the Alice Cooper > concert in the movie. I did not see Derek at all. The guy playing the > keyboards was shown but was at a distance and he had long hair.<< > > I haven't seen "Wayne's World" recently (although I finally caught the sequel > a couple weeks ago!) You probably saw Derek but didn't realize it was him... > When I met the guys, someone asked Derek about his hair - he said he'd cut > it recently because he was tired of it. So, at one time, Derek had longer > hair... > > Jen > > -- > "Could we see clearer in a virtual reality?" - Magellan > "I am the beat of your pulse/the computer word made flesh" - Queensryche > > jenniebear@aol.com kethry@netcom.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 13:08:23 -0500 (EST) > From: BOB HOLDER <BH7314@LUNDY.NIAGARAC.ON.CA> > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Cc: BH7314@LUNDY.NIAGARAC.ON.CA > Subject: RE: Van Halen (Sorry non-DT) > Message-ID: <950216130823.20407d16@LUNDY.NIAGARAC.ON.CA> > > I heard this morning on the radio that Collective Soul is the opening > act for Van Halen on the opening night of the tour which starts off in > Florida in March/April? > > Bob > > > "It's a crazy world we live in, > and I'm leaving it today, > for another institution, > where crazy people play." > > Dio > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 12:14:17 +0000 > From: Philip_Schroeder@baylor.edu > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: albums with all good songs > Message-ID: <MailDrop1.1b9A.950216121417@st-moody-b-dyn-09.baylor.edu> > > All of these lists of various people's "favorite albums with NO bad songs" has > been interesting and informative but it proves a point that I have often thought > and I wanted to see what y'all think about it. Good bands that are really good > will always have an album with all good songs (or at least most of them). In > other words, if a band only has one or two good songs, then why buy the album? > That kind of band doesn't deserve your support if they don't have enough skill > to produce more than a couple good songs. Obviously the one good song they did > have was just a coincidence. This thought may seem off the wall, but this is > the reason why I hate singles and DESPISE pop radio. People who hear one song > on the radio and then buy the single often do this because the rest of the songs > aren't any good. > > This brings me to my final pet peeve. People who don't have minds of their > own. They hear a song on the radio 3 times an hour, and then decide they like > it. Pop radio controls what songs people will like, not the other way around. > This is why I admire the rest of you ytsejammers. You buy albums, not based on > radio airplay, but ON WHAT YOU LIKE! Because let's face it, good bands like > Dream Theater, Queensryche, Rush etc.. don't get much airplay(except maybe on > Zrock). One of the reasons ytsejam is so great is because we can hear about > good bands that we might not hear of any other way. So keep those opinions > coming! > > Please react to what I said about singles and that good bands are > characterized by albums with almost all good songs.(I won't say all, because we > all have different tastes, and its no big deal if we don't like one or two.) > > Theres my 4 or 5 cents(because of length:) > Phil > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 14:50:28 -0500 (EST) > From: Anthony <AKOZAR@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU> > To: DT:;@donews.uucp > Subject: "Perfect" Albums > Message-ID: <01HN4CYCTLF6001WJ1@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU> > > hi jammers! > > just thought id jump on this thread real quick...here are the albums > which i love and dont dislike any songs from: > > DT: awake, I&W > RUSH: Hemispheres, A Farewell to Kings, Permanent Waves, 2112, Caress of Steel > METALLICA: "black" album > > > also, just to note that i played one of my own pieces today in a recital > at our music dept, and it went over fairly well....some of my music is > influenced heavily by rush...im going to adding scanned images of some of my > scores soon to my WWW home page, so anyone interested could download them > and give them a try (they are written for piano)...anyone who does so please > write me and give some feedback...look for them to start appearing in the next > two weeks... > > ******************************************************************************* > Anthony Kozar "The Divine Spirit found a sublime outlet in > Univ. of Toledo that wonder of analysis, that portent of the > 1042 Acad. Ctr. ideal world, that amphibian between being > akozar@UofT02.utoledo.edu and not-being, which we call the imaginary > http://www.utoledo.edu/~akozar/ root of negative unity." -- Leibniz > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 15:11:14 -0500 (EST) > From: LORDE ANDREW <DIXONAS@HIRAM.EDU> > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: Van Halen, KM Demos, etc... > Message-ID: <950216151114.214050f6@HIRAM.EDU> > > Hi. this is my frist time posting. I was wondering if anyone out there would > happen to know the tour dates for Van Halen, specifically when they are coming > to Cleveland, Ohio. And while we're on the tour dates subject, anyone know > the dates for Queensryche? I heard that Fates Warning is opening - anybody > know if this is true? > I'd like to thank Jeff Chew for sending me my copy of the Kevin Moore Demos, I > have yet to listen to them, but I appreciate the quick response. And thanks > to all the people out there who started the Fates Warning discussion so many > weeks ago. I decided to try them out, and bought _Parallels_. I love it! > So, if anyone has any more suggestions, keep 'em coming!!! > As for my favorite albums/like every song, I'd have to say there are only a > few: > Dream Theater : I&W, Awake > Fates Warning : Parallels > Queensryche : Operation:Mindcrime > well, I guess that's it. Just thought that I would put in my dollar and a > half. > Cheers, > Andy > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "From my mother's sleep I fell into the State > And I hunched in its belly till my wet fur froze. > Six miles from earth, loosed from its dream of life, > I woke to black flak and the nightmare fighters. > When I died they washed me out of the turret with a hose." > > --Randall Jarell, "The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner" > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Andy Dixon dixonas@hiram.edu > POBox 654 > Hiram, OH 44234 Phone: (216)569-5027 > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 16 Feb 95 15:52:45 EST > From: Michael Herring <mpherrin@mtu.edu> > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: TIM LODGE > Message-ID: <9502162052.AA19499@maxwell11.ee.mtu.edu> > > Sorry to take up list space but I lost Tim Lodges Address. > > TIM LODGE: I would like to know when I'm going to get my discs. Majesty Demos and Instru-mental? Soon I hope. Let me know. > > John Kotzian > 710 water st > Hancock, MI 49930 > P.S. Mail me at this address. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 14:00:00 -0600 > From: "james (j.) wolf" <jwolf@bnr.ca> > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: DT as Openers > Message-ID: <"24475 Thu Feb 16 15:43:05 1995"@bnr.ca> > > If DT opened (which I hope they don't for selfish reasons-I want to see a > full 2 hrs, not 45 min.), this is my guess as to what they'd play: > > Song: Approx. Time (from memory): > ----- ------------- > Pull Me Under 7:30 > 6:00 6:30 > Caught in a Web 5:30 > Take the Time 8:00 > Lie 7:00 > Metropolis 10:00 > ----- > 44:30 > > Pretty unsatisfying, but unfortunately, opening acts are almost obligated > to play the songs that got radio airplay (to try and hold the attention > of the headliner's fans) and you're left with little time for anything else!! > --------------- > Wolfman > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 16 Feb 95 19:09:01 GMT > From: D.L.Powell-CSSE94@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: Brittish tour dates? > Message-ID: <25019.9502161909@mungo.cs.bham.ac.uk> > > Could somebody please, please send me the latest brittish tour dates. > > I keep phoning Nottingham Rock City but they swear that they haven`t booked DT > there and I really want to see them, again. I don`t want to travel to London, (but if the worst comes to the worst!!!) > > > Cheerz in advance. > Big Daym > (Damian Powell - D.L.Powell-CSSE94@cs.bham.ac.uk) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 15:41:45 -0600 (CST) > From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: Re: DT on HBB > Message-ID: <199502162141.PAA22484@galaxy.galstar.com> > > > Just one thing I gotta tell you: Right before HBB they showed the usual > > half-hour of Beavis & Butt-Head and this sunday they showed one episode > > where B&B watch a GWAR-video. Butt-Head goes: "You know, you watch all > > these videos for hours and hours, and they all suck, and then this comes > > on and it's like, it's all worth it!" That pretty much sums up just what > > I felt watching HBB. :-) > > GWAR? What is this? (Excuse my ignorance.) Also, what os AOR? I see this > a lot, usually in the context of pop bands. > > I think it'd be awesome to have a B&B show full of Prog videos. I'm sure > they'd think up some pretty funny stuff to say about older prog-rock > videos. I've heard they've seen a Rush video and a Yes video. Rush was > Stick It Out and they were saying "Yeah, this is cool, yeah!" and then > they said, "Oh, is RUSH." I thought that is so true of some people. > They'll like the song, but when they hear its by an artist they don't > like, it suddenly becomes shit. And I would guess they were really making > fun of the Yes video, Owner of a Lonely Heart. But they need to have a > show of all prog stuff, like 80's Crimson, some Fates, some DT, some > Queensryche, Yes, Marillion (did they make any videos? Surely...) I'm > sure there's more prog-rock videos out there, enough to make a whole show > full of them. > > > ------------------------------ > > End of YTSEJAM Digest 701 > *************************
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