YTSEJAM Digest 718
Today's Topics:
1) Portnoy in Hamburg
by "Olaf Peters" <olf@informatik.uni-bremen.de>
2) Re: NO QUEENSRYCHE DOCTOR SAMPLES!!
by jjens@osf1.gmu.edu (John Jens, Jr.)
3) i'm not going to pay a lot for my muffler
by jjens@osf1.gmu.edu (John Jens, Jr.)
4) Re: Dream Concert
by jjens@osf1.gmu.edu (John Jens, Jr.)
5) poll note
by William Kriski <wkriski@enci.ucalgary.ca>
6) Prog Compilation Tape
by Michael Backof <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
7) KM Demo
by toaster@netaxs.com
8) Re: Another (semi)serious question
by toaster@netaxs.com
9) boot list available!
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
10) Controversey - Portnoy vs. Peart
by "Scott Snyderman" <sas220@email.psu.edu>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 717
by Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
12) non DT: Operation: Mindcrime quotes...
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
13) Re: Let's Rumble
by Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
14) Scarred
by Michael Van Opstall <mavanop@grfn.ORG>
15) John Myung
by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
16) Stuff
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu>
17) Fanzine
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu>
18) Re: Mike P, Mike T, and Yes
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
19) NEW BOOTLEG CD!!
by "Brian V. Cox" <bvc8995@tam2000.tamu.edu>
20) Re: YTSEJAM digest 717
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
21) Re: Controversey - Portnoy vs. Pearty
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
22) Re: Prog Compilation Tape
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
23) Re: NO QUEENSRYCHE DOCTOR SAMPLES!!
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
24) Re: Why slam AOL (was Re: corruption in the goat herd)
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
25) DT con
by YBBX10C@prodigy.com (MISS JAIME K KIMPTON)
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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 02:22:01 +0100
From: "Olaf Peters" <olf@informatik.uni-bremen.de>
To: "Ytsejam.ML" <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Portnoy in Hamburg
Message-ID: <30911172@indigo.biba.uni-bremen.de>
Hi 'jammers,
I just returned from the Queensryche concert in Hamburg/Germany. Guess who
we met right after the show, standing in the p.a.-box? Right: Mike! :-)
He said James also is around but we couldn't spot him. Anyway, my friend
got a nice autograph on the back of his jacket (including DT-logo) and I
let Mike sign my QR-ticket. Great, really great :-)
Looking forward to see DT on monday 27th in Bremen/Germany (my hometown).
Bye,
Olf
-- Private: op@hb2.maus.de (no mails >15 KB, please!) University: olf@informatik.uni-bremen.de, olf@IRC------------------------------
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 05:52:24 -0500 From: jjens@osf1.gmu.edu (John Jens, Jr.) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: NO QUEENSRYCHE DOCTOR SAMPLES!! Message-ID: <9502251052.AA15730@gmu.edu>
on some date, Ken complained ;):
>Seriously, I can live with "perfect albums", "Bon Jovi", "Van Halen", >and even threads about Goats, but I'm really really really tired of >hearing about this sample.
me too. and it's sheep. i dunno where SloppyHoe got goats from ;)
laterz, john ............................................................................. John C. Jens, Jr. keep the net free. jjens@gmu.edu call your Senators and tell them http://www.site.gmu.edu/~jjens/ NO! on S314 .............................................................................
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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 05:52:27 -0500 From: jjens@osf1.gmu.edu (John Jens, Jr.) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: i'm not going to pay a lot for my muffler Message-ID: <9502251052.AA15733@gmu.edu>
NOTE: this is not a flame; it's a spark ;)
at some time, somewhere, Tim wrote:
>I don't think that was a reference to people for _pay_ for accounts through >service providers. It was more toward people who work at companies that >are on the net, and who use their work account for personal access. How >many of these people - myself included - (and even more so, the ones with >".edu" at the end of their address) would just disappear if they had to >start paying for their own access (even without buying a computer)? Though >I'm currently in that category, too, I'm checking out AOL and a couple >other service providers.
anyone with a .edu pays for it. it's called tuition :) but seriously, if i din't have either of my skool accounts (2) or my work accounts (lots) i *WOULD* pay for a .com or .net or whatever. in fact, i might do that anyway to get a real PPP line. anyhoo, i *am* paying for this :)
>(Now _that_ ought to generate some flames from those who are young enough >that the world is still black and white... <g>)
only a spark, my friend :) btw, the world is NOT b&w, it's 1024x768 16.7M colors :)
and now for something compeletely different...
<start DT content> Ytse convention: kool idea. out of the 10 people i know at skool, only 2 know of/listen to DT. but i'm pretty sure i saw a fellow gmu.edu somewhere amongst these posts. ne1 else in the DC Metro Area? DC, MD, VA i'm willing to drive. TX, NY, NC, i can't afford nor have the time to drive -- funny things called classes and exams :\
John M.'s bass sound: it's definately improved since WDADU. definately a severe case of And Justice for All... syndrom plus an overall bad mix. I&W it improved. at least the lines are easier to hear when run at high speed making them easier to figure out. it's still drowned in the mix tho. Awake presents us with the best recording/mix of John's bass sound. the entire album has much more ballz than either of the first ones. John's still hidden in the mix tho. i think John P.'s sound got a lot heavy from I&W to Awake. this may also be drowning out Myung. damn, if it weren't for the sub freques, us bass players end up w/ guitar-tone and thus never be heard.
AFN, take it chezzy, john ............................................................................. John C. Jens, Jr. keep the net free. jjens@gmu.edu call your Senators and tell them http://www.site.gmu.edu/~jjens/ NO! on S314 .............................................................................
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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 05:52:30 -0500 From: jjens@osf1.gmu.edu (John Jens, Jr.) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Dream Concert Message-ID: <9502251052.AA15736@gmu.edu>
>How about just a real big PROG FEST... like Lollapaloozer except for >progressive rock. we could have the following line-up: > > Queensryche, Rush, Dream Theater, Fates Warning, Yes, Marillion > >and tons of other bands to make like a two day fest that happens maybe >like 4 times a year in different places. > >-The Doc
i'm there dude :) Progstock '95!!! ............................................................................. John C. Jens, Jr. keep the net free. jjens@gmu.edu call your Senators and tell them http://www.site.gmu.edu/~jjens/ NO! on S314 .............................................................................
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Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 14:51:20 -0700 (MST) From: William Kriski <wkriski@enci.ucalgary.ca> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: poll note Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9502241428.A17873-0100000@casual1>
To the 'jammer who posted the polls of college students, etc:
My id ends in .ca but I'm in university!
Will
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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 11:07:13 -0500 From: Michael Backof <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Prog Compilation Tape Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.90.950225110527.23575A-100000@umbc8.umbc.edu>
Hello,
I've gotten good response from the Compilation Tape offer so I am ending the request for responses. Thanks to all who are participating.
Later,
Mike
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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 11:25:56 -0500 From: toaster@netaxs.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: toaster@netaxs.com Subject: KM Demo Message-ID: <199502251625.LAA21996@unix1.netaxs.com>
Well, I haven't even finished listening to the KM demo tape for the first time, and already I know that I'll have to dub another copy, just so that I don't wear *this* one out listening to it! This is such a great tape!
-Toaster
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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 11:48:29 -0500 From: toaster@netaxs.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: toaster@netaxs.com Subject: Re: Another (semi)serious question Message-ID: <199502251648.LAA22295@unix1.netaxs.com>
What if everyone in DT had to switch roles? Well, I guess I'd just have to go and kill myself! But seriously, I think that might be kind of cool. I think they're all musically talented enough to be able to switch and still be a great band! It would be a little disconcerting to hear Myung singing, or know that it was LaBrie on the bass. Wouldn't it be neat if DT tried this on a single or something? Just some thoughts triggered by that post :).
-Toaster
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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 12:12:05 -0500 (EST) From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: boot list available! Message-ID: <199502251712.MAA24424@umbc9.umbc.edu>
I've started to notice that there are alot of new 'jammers on here that are looking for boots. I have a list with alot of DT and many other bands.
Mail me if you would like to see a copy.
************************************************************************** * Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu * * * * You're fighting the weight of the world, * * and no one can save you this time. * * Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. * * * * "Take the Time" - Dream Theater * **************************************************************************
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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 12:36:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Scott Snyderman" <sas220@email.psu.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Controversey - Portnoy vs. Peart Message-ID: <45385.sas220@email.psu.edu>
Hello Jammers, I am a guitar player who loves Dream Theater as well as Rush. I have been in many agrguments with people trying to decide if Portnoy is better than Peart. Even though Portnoy was influenced by Peart, I believe that Portnoy has taken drum playing to new heights with his melodic type beats. It would be nice to get some input from some drummers as well as others to see who they think is better of the two. Even though I think Portnoy has an edge on Peart, this message is in no way meant to put down Neal Peart. Some responses would be appreciated. Thanks. -Scott Snyderman sas220@psu.edu
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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 13:21:01 -0500 (EST) From: Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 717 Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.90.950225131121.2058B-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
Quoting Doc:
>Overall, WDADU was horribly mixed anyways since it was Mr. Low Budget >production. Do you know how much studio time is at Kajem? Very expensive.
I'll bet you WDADU cost them more than I&W.
Not only that, but, Prater works VERY cheaply.
> But on I&W and Awake, the bass tracks ARE compressed, but only for the > bass track, as with digital mastering you don't need to compress the > overall signal because of the incredible dynamic range and > headroom (+100db), Well, ya know, if you wanna get technical here, the bass on WDADU WERE compressed - just not enough. And compressing the overall mix is something a producer will decide to do (and some do) regardless of the amount of headroom. Radio stations, as you know, usually run multiple expanders/limiters/compressors on their signals, which usually alter the sound of what is being played on the air. In other words, what the producer/engineer is attempting to do is to reduce the effect of those compressors/limiters/expanders on the actual mix.
Has nothing to do with "headroom." You still have to run that mix at an SPL of 0db (maybe +3, if you're sadistic). As my audio mentor, Jim Gallagher (the man's worked with stevie wonder, for god's sake) said, "You can only put a gallon into a gallon. No more, no less."
> same goes for the drums, each track is compress seperately and then > mixed down into the final mix.
Yes, thank you. I know that. =)
Except when you don't have enough tracks or compression units to do that with ;)
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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 12:54:34 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam SERVER) Subject: non DT: Operation: Mindcrime quotes... Message-ID: <199502251754.MAA08727@opal.cs.brandeis.edu>
Before this thread goes too much further abouyt hearing the Operation: Mindcrime quote (Dr. Brair, Dr. Blair, Dr. James... etc), as has been pointed out MANY times on SiD, this quote comes from a commonly used "clip art" type CD... There are CDs of stuff like this quote to be used in backgrounds, as QR used it...
-- +----------------------------------------+----------------+---------+ | And I'll smile and learn to pretend | Dream Theater | Michael | | And I'll never be open again | Space Dye Vest | Burstin | | And I'll have no more dreams to defend |-----Awake------+---------+ | And I'll never be open again | Pgh Penguins: 13-1-2 | +----------------------------------------+--------------------------+ For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu http://cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/home.html
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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 13:47:14 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: Let's Rumble Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950225134451.27854B-100000@oak.liii.com>
On Sat, 25 Feb 1995, Matt Leger wrote:
> > > On Fri, 24 Feb 1995, Ricky Booth wrote: > > > > of "the ytse jam" on the LiT video, there's a sample that says: "Let's > > > get ready to rumble!!!" Well, i was watching the tuesday night fights > > > last week and heard this exact same voice at the beginning of the fight. > > > > Yes, it's traditional to say before fights "LLLLllllet's get ready to > > rummmmmmble!" Most refs have their own style of saying but they all say > > it... > > > > I always thought that this came from the t.v. show "Grudge > Match", where people get to kick the shit out of each other over stupid > quarrels.... > > Who knows.... >
Actually, there is one guy who is famous for saying this line (not so famous that I'd know his name, though). This guy was even a guest on Letterman last year.
Mike P. would know his name :)
Andy
akeegan@liii.com ============================================================== "Emancipate yourself from "There's only one way mental slavery, of life, None but ourselves can free And that's your own" our mind" - B. Marley - Levellers ==============================================================
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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 14:24:26 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Van Opstall <mavanop@grfn.ORG> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Scarred Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.950225142043.28828A-100000@freenet.grfn.org>
Why is everyone so interested in seeing Scarred performed live? Just because it isn't, because its long, or is there something really amazing there that I'm just not catching?
I do like the song now. I'm getting a little more used to WDADU now, it was definitely worth the $22 it cost me (but I found it at Musicland!).
Another Question: What's this business with Kevin Moore and some girl someone has been talking about (something about SDV). If his situation is like the one described in SDV, I feel his pain. I thought he was married, though, because I read in GW in an interview Petrucci said everyone in the band was married except Mike, but that may have been after Kevin left.
Piece in the Would. Read the Don Digest. Shirt and Shoes Required.
M.A. VanOpstall mavanop@grfn.org
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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 08:38:03 PST From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: John Myung Message-ID: <199502251638.IAA10908@netcom14.netcom.com>
The problem with his sound is that it just doesn't cut through on the recording, it's all low end, there's no midrange or anything else... Even in concert...
-The Doc
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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 17:04:27 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Stuff Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.950225164809.29782A-100000@moose.uvm.edu>
First of all, thank you to those that answered my intern question. I've been given a lot to think about. Now, on to the stuff:
1) I'm all for a YTSE con. I live in LA, so that's where I'll be over the summer, if that's when it's going to happen. If it is going to to take place over the remainder of the school year, I might be able to make it down to Boston. Also, in regards to a cover band playing at the con, if it happens in LA I'll volunteer my services. I can play "Surrounded," "Another Day," and "Lifting Shadows Off a Dream," note-for-note (I play drums) and can get through "Erotomania" without emabarressing myself too badly. I also know of an *incredible* bass player from the LA area on this list (hi Dave).
2) Someone mentioned the band Tyketto. These guys are GREAT!!! But be warned, they are a hard rock band (gasp). They have two albums out, the first is pretty much straight ahead catchy hard rock, the second one has a blusier feel to it but still retains it catchiness. Anyone who likes this genre of music will love these guys, no doubt about it. I do.
3) Somone also mentioned the band TNT. Well, color me impressed. I thought that these guys were pretty obscure. I have Tell No Tales and Realized Fantasies, with the latter, IMO, being the superior effort. I usually like only a couple of songs on these albums, but they've got pretty good chops. -That's all for now, thanks for reading.
Richie
"Funny, how just when you think life can't possibly get any worse it suddenly does." -Marvin
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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 17:17:49 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Fanzine Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.950225171632.116604A-100000@moose.uvm.edu>
Sorry to post again, but could the person who wanted to start up that US fanzine please e-mail me directly. I tried to e-mail you but it got bounced. Thanks.
Richie Rivera rrivera@moose.uvm.edu
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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 16:35:38 -0600 (CST) From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Mike P, Mike T, and Yes Message-ID: <199502252235.QAA11984@galaxy.galstar.com>
> Second of all, let me just say that as an old AND new Yes fan, TREVOR RABIN > IS A GOD. And if you don't think so...hmmm...I don't really give a fuck.
Geeze, most people I've talked to say that not only is he a bad musican, he is a stuck-up arrogant self-absorbed sonofabitch. But maybe they're lying to me.
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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 18:31:58 -0600 (CST) From: "Brian V. Cox" <bvc8995@tam2000.tamu.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com, mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu (Michael Burstin), Subject: NEW BOOTLEG CD!! Message-ID: <199502260032.SAA13499@tam2000.tamu.edu>
just saw this in the March issue of ICE.
Dream Theater "Wake Up" 1/25/95 Japan Digital Broadcast
didn't say if it was a single or double, or what label. the same issue talked about KTS and the new italian copyright laws. it says that most of the majors are investigating copyright laws in other countries, and considering relocation.
there was a really cool story about the KTS "Vortical" pearl jam cd. do not buy it!!! it is the atlanta show repackaged and the songs are re-ordered and it is claimed to be a 24-track digital soundboard from Boston. KTS is very embarrassed, they were scammed. :)
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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 16:17:39 -0600 (CST) From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 717 Message-ID: <199502252217.QAA11618@galaxy.galstar.com>
> Well, ya know, if you wanna get technical here, the bass on WDADU > WERE compressed - just not enough. And compressing the overall mix is > something a producer will decide to do (and some do) regardless of the > amount of headroom. Radio stations, as you know, usually run multiple > expanders/limiters/compressors on their signals, which usually alter the > sound of what is being played on the air. In other words, what the > producer/engineer is attempting to do is to reduce the effect of those > compressors/limiters/expanders on the actual mix.
Huh? Please explain, as I love to know technical stuff about how they make CDs, etc. So please explain what compressing is, and why its done, and how, and what effect it has on us, and why we're talking about it in the context of Dream Theater. And since you seem to know a lot about producing, why can't we hear John Myung?
> "You can only put a gallon into a gallon. No more, no less."
"...Three shall be the number of counting, and the number of counting shall be three. No more, no less."
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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 16:18:25 -0600 (CST) From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Controversey - Portnoy vs. Pearty Message-ID: <199502252218.QAA11650@galaxy.galstar.com>
> > Hello Jammers, > I am a guitar player who loves Dream Theater as well as Rush. I have > been in many agrguments with people trying to decide if Portnoy is better > than Peart. Even though Portnoy was influenced by Peart, I believe that > Portnoy has taken drum playing to new heights with his melodic type beats. > It would be nice to get some input from some drummers as well as others to > see who they think is better of the two. Even though I think Portnoy has > an edge on Peart, this message is in no way meant to put down Neal Peart. > Some responses would be appreciated. Thanks.
Either way, Mark Zonder beats them both.
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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 16:21:19 -0600 (CST) From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Prog Compilation Tape Message-ID: <199502252221.QAA11676@galaxy.galstar.com>
> I've gotten good response from the Compilation Tape offer so I am > ending the request for responses. Thanks to all who are participating.
If there are in fact many people who are wanting a compliation tape with lots of prog on it, I might be willing to make one up, along with a listeners guide that will give some basic info about the bands and some witty comments I have about them. :) I would concentrate more on older prog of course, Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, but would add some newer material of course. Any comments/suggestions/flames? :)
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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 17:01:56 -0600 (CST) From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: NO QUEENSRYCHE DOCTOR SAMPLES!! Message-ID: <199502252301.RAA12285@galaxy.galstar.com>
> Seriously, I can live with "perfect albums", "Bon Jovi", "Van Halen", > and even threads about Goats, but I'm really really really tired of > hearing about this sample. > > Having said that, I suspect the rest of you will now carry on a long > thread about how wonderful the sample is which I will probably read > anyways :)
Just to clear things up people, this sample is NOT made by Queensryche. It was released on a sample CD to be used for commertials, TV shows, and movies. It is public domain and has nothing to do with QR except that it is on Mindcrime.
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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 17:05:22 -0600 (CST) From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Why slam AOL (was Re: corruption in the goat herd) Message-ID: <199502252305.RAA12341@galaxy.galstar.com>
> So people began to notice that when a naive question was asked, the > site was aol.com. The users quickly got an (undeserved) reputation > for being a bunch of newbies.
This and the fact that when AOL opened up the newbie flood gates, all of their messages they posted were being duplicated 10 fold. So, one post of "Can you see this" turned into 10. Bad programming on the part of AOL. I think they actually HIRED newbies to write the software. They then hired newbies to come in and think of a bug that the newbie software writers could employ in their program that would totally PISS EVERYONE off.
That has to be how it went, I can't think of any other way AOL could screw up as they did.
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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 16:53:07 EST From: YBBX10C@prodigy.com (MISS JAIME K KIMPTON) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: DT con Message-ID: <013.03962860.YBBX10C@prodigy.com>
A con in western New York would be MOST excellent, or at least on my end - I'm from Rochester and will be attending college in Binghamton in the fall (I'm supposed to be there NOW - but I'm not. <G>)
Anyone else on the board from that general area - or southeastern Virginia, where I am at the moment? I know NO DT fans around here, and I saw probably two people that I knew at a concert in July 1993 in Rochester (of course, when you're in the front row, you generally don't get to see the other people around you!). The only person I've met into DT was Mike Nash, the drummer for Wicked Maraya - in fact, he said he grew up with some of the guys. (I would assume this would be Kev and the Johns, since he's from Long Island)
endless rambling...
Let light surround you! Jaime the Dragon
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