YTSEJAM Digest 645
Today's Topics:
1) DT and Ytsejammer diversity
by TOM.INMAN%MSFC26PO@x400gw.msfc.nasa.gov
2) Another musical interests list
by Mike Kinstrey <kinstrmi@dso008.sch.ge.com>
3) Trading blank tapes, my .sig
by "Dan Tshin" <danman@io.org>
4) Dream Theater article
by Robert J Weychert Jr <weyc9212@kutztown.edu>
5) miscellanous
by Andreas Kasper <KASPER@pc-aak.chemie.uni-mainz.de>
6) Re: Dream Theater finding
by BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
7) Re: DT and classical music/ot...
by James Bako <jbako01@barney.poly.edu>
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 644
by Jeremy Longley <jcl1008@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
9) Re: MISSION:IMPOSSIBLE!!
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
10) Radio Email
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
11) Pretty Maids
by JennieBear@aol.com
12) Favorite music
by pgor@netcom.com (Paul Goracke)
13) Re: Indiana Jones Soundtrack
by William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
14) LIE single
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver>
15) fates warning suggestions?
by gary.schrock@ssc.msu.edu
16) To the person making copies of the Toronto show
by "Mark A. Parker" <parkerma@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu>
17) Favorite bands... & Your DT cover top 10
by SEVERINE@ACC.FAU.EDU
18) Re: fates warning suggestions?
by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
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Date: 11 Jan 95 16:12:00 -0600
From: TOM.INMAN%MSFC26PO@x400gw.msfc.nasa.gov
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT and Ytsejammer diversity
Message-ID: <M650750.005.9hn84.4601.950111221134Z.CC-MAIL*/O=CCMAIL/PRMD=MSFC/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@MHS>
Hello fellow Ystejammers;
It's great to hear about the vast diversity of musical taste among DT
fans; it shows just how powerful their music is. It's also good for me
since I probably break the mold of the "typical" (if there is one)
Ytsejammer anyway (I'm "mid-'30's" and still rockin'). Anyway...I was
quite interested in the message from Eric Gautier:
> Also, just a thought: what if DT had a full symphonic orchestra at their
>disposition? Not just like the "A Classic Case" series, where an orchestra
>interprets some of the band's greatest hits: here the band would actually
>write the songs with the orchestra in mind, and perform along with it. They
>could also throw in some non-traditional instruments if they feel like it.
Since one of my favorite bands from the early days was Deep Purple, this
brought to mind their "Concerto for Group and Orchestra" from 1969. Some of
you may not know, but at the time, this was a pretty bold move and many
critics predicted that Purple would never "recover". Of course, 1970 and
the
"In Rock" album took care of those predictions. With respect to DT, I have
come away from more than one show thinking how they remind me of early
Purple
Mk II (i.e. 1970-71); their musical talent of course, but also the "free
jams"
between songs that they throw in. Before Purple "settled" into the standard
set used from late '71 on, spontaneous jams were always thrown into the set.
I would *love* to see DT pull off a similar "Group & Orchestra" piece!
I'll join the fray with my current favorites:
Rush (of course!)
Queensryche
DT
King's X
Savatage (especially "Edge of Thorns" and "Streets")
Yes (check out "Talk")
Alice in Chains
Fates Warning
Old favorites:
Purple, Sabbath, Rush, Floyd, Rainbow, Yes, Priest, Budgie, Heep, Scorpions,
Maiden, Zeppelin, AC/DC, Marillion, Van Halen, ELP, and many others...
I was amazed to see a lot of you name the same favorite classical pieces
and
composers as I would have; I wonder what common "thread" attracts us to
these
particular pieces? (Right - they're all excellent, I know...)
Sorry about the length-
Tom Inman
tom.inman@msfc.nasa.gov
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 17:23:27 -0500
From: Mike Kinstrey <kinstrmi@dso008.sch.ge.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Another musical interests list
Message-ID: <9501112223.AA11186@ns.GE.com>
I've been a lurker on this list for awhile now, but had to add my
musical interests to this discussion. I play guitar, so my musical
interests are usually centered around good guitar playing, be it
electric or acoustic.
Bands like Dream Theater, Queensryche, Dokken, early Van Halen
get played the most often, with Ozzy, Extreme, Stevie Ray Vaughan,
and Melissa Ethridge close behind. Given that, I also enjoy Molly
Hatchet, Ted Nugent, Madonna (I don't like the persona, but she can
write great dance tunes), Journey, Robert Plant, Kenny G, Eagles,
and the Beach Boys.
In addition to that, I love flamenco guitar, and am starting to get into
some jazz guitar music. When practicing guitar, I get inspired by all
these styles. I wish I could play them all well. My wife's music
interests include Broadway showtunes, classical music like
Beethoven, Bach, YoYo Ma (my wife plays cello), to Meatloaf,
B-52s. Much of *it* I like too.
Back to lurking again...
Mike
__________________________________________________________________________
Mike Kinstrey (518)385-8214 "...like Houston. It's 180 degrees,
kinstrmi@gnes02.sch.ge.com but it's a dry heat."
kinstrmi@phecda.crd.ge.com - "Space-Dye Vest", Dream Theater
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 17:42:33 -0500
From: "Dan Tshin" <danman@io.org>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Trading blank tapes, my .sig
Message-ID: <199501112257.RAA21163@io.org>
>> Michael Burstin mentioned that there are people on the
>>list who are willing to trade for blank tapes to help people start up
>>their DT collections. If such people indeed exist, could they please
>>e-mail me with the details?
>
>Please E-mail me too!
Hi, I don't know where the original post was, but I'd like to trade
blank tapes to start my DT collection.
Hmm... My sig... well, I actually *borrowed* it off someone that had
been (maybe still is) on Ytsejam. I haven't seen him around, but his
full sig is (lemme search the old digests...)
Wait, I'm wrong, he was just on, he wrote about FW opening for DT
in Digest 642 (yesterday's) Here is his .sig:
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---- Freedom belongs only to those without video screens for eyes and mouth --
---------------------- Queensryche - Screaming In Digital --------------------
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- Peace comes through thinking with our hearts and not with words. Until then
----------------- we'll light another candle for this world. -----------------
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Till 'Tillroy' Wagner <wagner@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de>
Elisabethenstr. 42f; D-63225 Langen; Germany
Well Till, where does it come from?? Hope you don't mind me using it,
it's a quotation I really like. Besides that, I must cut my .sig
down, it's way too large and takes too much bandwidth!
Happy ytsejamming!
-------------------------------Dan Tshin------------------------------+
.. "gO aGaInSt ThE fLoW" | _ _ |
. /o--\/ ----> danman@io.org <---- | ( /V\ ) |
\___/\ Shad Valley Carleton '94 SuRvIvOr | M |
Shad WWW: http://www.civeng.carleton.ca/Shad/homepage.html | | |
Shad Bio http://www.civeng.carleton.ca/Shad/dtshin.html | |
=+-+=+-+=+-+=+-+=+-+=+-+=+-+=+-+=+-+=+-+=+-+=+-+=+-+=+-+=+-=+ "Ryche" |
Peace comes through thinking with our hearts and not with |
words. Until then we'll light another candle for this world. |
Love is the Dance of Eternity - Dream Theatre "Images and Words" |
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 19:49:19 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert J Weychert Jr <weyc9212@kutztown.edu>
To: bredstik@aol.com, ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Dream Theater article
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9412181705.A23981-0100000@atlantic>
Hello all, this is an article taken from RIP magazine,
July 1993. I thought you all might find it interesting.
Enjoy! :)
What a difference chart position makes. For Dream
Theater's first video, for the song "Pull Me Under,"
"They told us an hour before we went on, 'Oh, we're
shooting tonight,'" recalls guitarist John Petrucci.
"I was pissed 'cause I hadn't shaved, and we didn't
have any clothes." He shrugs. "It didn't matter; you
couldn't see us anyway. It was all hair and strobes."
The one identifiable piece of clothing was lead singer
James LaBrie's Napalm Death t-shirt. Ironically, "I
still haven't listened to them," James admits. "But I
met Barney, their lead vocalist, and he was a really
cool guy."
"I'm the only one who's seen them," says drummer
Mike Portnoy. "Barney loves Dream Theater. I think
it's incredible that they listen to a band like us. It
says a lot for their open-mindedness. He gave us a
bunch of t-shirts. James just happened to be wearing
one that night. Barney called me up a few weeks later"
--he imitates the grindcore master's deep, British-
accented growl--"'Hey, tell James wearing that shirt in
the video, that's great.'"
But this was all before Dream Theater started
edging up toward the Top 40. Now a video director is
trying to talk them out of wearing all black. Too
Procol Harum, he says. "We ARE Procol Harum," Portnoy
smirks.
"What do you normally wear?" the director asks the
drummer, who lifts his shirt to reveal his bare chest,
hoping to be excused from this afternoon's shopping
expedition.
No such luck. They're off enmasse to the downtown
L.A. warehouse of a shirtmaker. The stylist is playing
show-and-tell with a bunch of necklaces she got in
Mexico, while theband wisecracks about the scenery.
"Look, it's a Napalm Deatht-shirt," laughs Kevin as the
van passes a Hollywood Boulevard shop. "Made famous by
James LaBrie." "Rock Star Accessories," quips Petrucci
about another store stocked with studded leather
jackets and spandex dresses. "I'd rather go to
[upscale N.Y. department store] Bloomingdale's and get
a cool silk shirt." Yes, in an era when most multi-
platinum sellers are going for plaid flannel from the
Salvation Army, Dream Theater are on their own path,
both in culture and sound, mixing prog-rock influences
like Rush and Yes with Queensryche and speed-metal
aggressiveness.
"This music will never be cool, like grunge or
industrial," says keyboardist Kevin Moore, and if that
bothers them, you coulda fooled me.
"Our fans are more real," says Mike. "It's not
like we're part of a trend or anything. With the
Seattle bands, after a while it becomes trendy and
everybody starts to lump them together and starts
liking them just because of the kind of music it is,
not because they like the individual band. So it's
probably better this way."
Off the freeway and into the scuzzy area that
surrounds L.A.'s wholesale garment district. We get
lost for a bit and also lose a second car that's
carrying some of the Dreamers. Upon our arrival at
the warehouse, a panhandler hits on bassist John
Myung the moment we get out of the van. A coffin-
sized elevator opens into a slightly more posh
reception area. "Is there a building in L.A. that
doesn't have a full-length mirror?" grumbles Kevin.
We're led into a warehouse full of shirts that range
from great to horrifically garish.
"Look at this," Petrucci quips. "I was looking
for something in a mustard polka-dot."
"Um, early Maui," grins Myung, fingering a loud,
flowered extravaganza.
As Keving discovers pants with an alligator
motif, Portnoy and Labrie emerge from the mini-vator.
"We saw this bum screaming for about ten minutes,"
Mike announces. "We were watching him." The shirts
don't interest him one bit, so he takes this
opportunity to use the manufacturer's phone for a
chat with his grandma.
Mike is close to his family. In fact, his dad
is driving to Dream Theater's show at the Palace
tonight, all the way downfrom Monterey, site of the
original Dream Theater, a movie house whose name the
band copped after their first moniker, Majesty,
turned out to be copyrighted by someone else. This
was back in 1988, when nobody cared what color shirts
they wore.
Petrucci and Myung met while they were students
at the prestigious Berklee College of Music. "I
wanted to meet people to do what I'm doing now,"
Petrucci explains, "but as long as I was there, I
wanted to learn as much as I could about music."
Later he used hi formal training to support himself
as a guitar teacher. "It totally kept me on top of
my technique, because you have to present ideas to
your students, and they have to respect you. But
when I built it up so muchI was making a living at
it, I didn't look forward to it anymore. It was just
like work."
Still, it beat McDonald's. At the time Dream
Theater were stuck in the quagmire their first label
deal and disc, "When Dream and Day Unite", turned out
to be. "Mechanic [Records] didn't have any money,"
says Mike, and parent company MCA wasn't forthcoming
either. Dream Theater had found themselves without
tour support and increasingly at odds with their
then-lead singer, Charlie Dominici.
"His whole delivery wasn't in synch with what we
were doing," Mike claims. "It was like Billy Joel
trying to sing with Queensryche."
Major changes were clearly in order. "We asked
to get dropped from the label," Portnoy remembers.
"They weren't going to let us go, so we had to settle
it under the table." Then they parted company with
Charlie.
"The experience totally changed us," says
Petrucci. "It tested us as a band--to stay together,
keep our heads clear, find the right vocalist and
keep a good business head. The content of the entire
'Images and Words' album is reflective of our lives
during the three years we were dealing with it."
In the meantime, James' band, Winter Rose, was
touring his native Canada with his friend Lee Aaron.
"She, unbeknownst to me, brought our tape in to
Aquarius Records, who called me about a solo deal
and then brought Dream Theater to my attention,"
James recalls. Both parties were immediately taken
with one another, and Atco Records, already
interested in the band, were sold on the new 'n'
improved package. Still, it was a surprise when the
eight-minute-long "Pull Me Under" began to get
substantial air- and MTV-play. "We thought we'd
maybe get some college radio that would sete up the
singles that would be released later," says James.
Instead, their lives have been kicked into the
hyperspeed that's de rigueur for the suddenly hot.
Having finally located half a dozen cool shirts
among the atrocities, they're off for a hasty dinner
before soundcheck.
Sweet's "Ballroom Blitz" comes on the van radio.
Petrucci doesn't recognize it.
"What, you weren't alive in the 70s?" snipes
Portnoy. "That was a classic." A moment later he
muses, "You think in 2010 somebody's going to be
listening to Ugly Kid Joe on the radio going, 'You
weren't alive in the 90s?'" He remembers the last
time he was driving around L.A. Seems he spotted a
woman with great-looking big hair in the car ahead of
him. "I'm thinking, 'That's a mint chick. I gotta
check her out.'" He pulled up alongside the car,
only to discover that his dream girl was a huge,
shaggy DOG!
Back in Hollywood, most of the guys head for the
chuck wagon while Mike hooks up with his dad, a
jovial man clearly thrilled about Mike's success.
They arrive at soundcheck to find everything a mess.
Tech guys are running around, moving monitors and
staircases, testing equipment and fiddling with
lights. Even on a club stage, Dream Theater are
believers in the The Big Show--rock 'n' roll as
something grandiose and larger-than-life, right down
to the exit music.
"Usually, when a band is done playing an intense
set, the deejay will start playing Metallica, and
there's no room for breathing," says Mike. "We play
the theme from "Twin Peaks", just to keep everyone
depressed." He's a rabid fan of director David
Lynch--so much so that he has the Log Lady's
mysterious tattoo duplicated on his own leg. "I'm a
very compulsive person," he admits. "I have a
couple of thousand movies, CDs. I'm the one who
tapes all the shows onto DAT and video and collects
all the articles."
Does this attitude extend to music?
"We're all very meticulous about music, business
and creative decisions," says Kevin. "That's one of
the greatest things about this band, but it's also
one of the worst. Five members have an equal say,
and nothing gets by without everybody's approval.
Everyone gets a chance for input, but it also creates
a million arguments."
Not of the tantrum-throwing variety, however.
"Nobody yells, but it goes on for so long," laughs
Mike. "After a while you just get disgusted. A half
hour later, three days later..."
Out front, a crowd is gathering--metalheads,
Sunset Strip babes, serious guys with that I-practice-
guitar-nine-hours-day look, and an unexpected older
contingent, yuppies and Valley couples who probably
dug Rush when they were in their teens. The crush of
fans is a clear sign that sweeping, traditional
progressive metal is far from dead, grunge movement or
no grunge movement.
Dream Theater, getting ready backstage, know
this. Their mutual, oft-articulated ambition is to
get to the arena level their stately music was made
for. But James has one other item on his to-do list.
"Some time soon," he says with a grin, "I definitely
am going to give Napalm Death a listen."
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 16:22:30 GMT+100
From: Andreas Kasper <KASPER@pc-aak.chemie.uni-mainz.de>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: miscellanous
Message-ID: <MAILQUEUE-101.950111162230.384@pc-aak.chemie.uni-mainz.de>
Hello!
Just a few things to let you know.
recommendations :
THRESHOLD - WOUNDED LAND
I think someone else already mentioned Threshold a few days ago.
This is a perfect album for fans of progressive metal. They are
really strong in their vocals and their keyboardist fits in really
well.
They have a newer release - PSYCHEDELICATESSEN - which is out for
some weeks now and is reported to be heavier and less progressive -
anybody out there already checked it out? I'm gonna get it anyway,
'cause I like "WOUNDED LAND" so much.
ANYONE OUT THERE ALREADY FAMILIAR WITH "PSYCHEDELICATESSEN" ???
ANGRA - ANGELS CRY
Faster than Threshold, they somehow remind me of Helloween's good old
"Keeper Of The Seven Keys" albums. Again, a great vocalist.
I also like the orchestration a lot. They also have a symphonic intro
- just like Helloween on their "Keeper" albums.
I think "Angels Cry" is their only release.
TIAMAT - WILDHONEY
Tiamat is a former Death-Metal-Band who has become more progressive
now - I think that's due to some line-up changes.
Some people might remember the discussion about Cynic's "Focus" -
THIS is death metal, IMHO, but Tiamat is more progressive and less
death metal. Oh, well, I myself still have to get used to their still-
a-little-death-metal vocals.
Next subject : TOWHTSTS and other acronyms
Now everybody knows what TOWHTSTS means, so I like to add a few more:
ATCOOBS - albums to check out or buy soon
ATBASATAR - albums to buy as soon as they are released
To explain this a bit : Threshold's "PSYCHEDELICATESSEN" is on my
ATCOOBS-list, whereas the new DT-EP which is going to be released
this year (hopefully soon) definitely belongs to the ATBASATAR.
TJWILTPH (That's just what I like to post here).
on the classical music subject :
My favorite composer is Beethoven, and I mostly like his symphonies,
especially Symphony #6 (Pastorale). Anybody familiar with it?
As I'm not sure if my last message made it to YTSEJAM, I post part of
it again right now. Please, don't mind if you've already read this.
Thanks!
- Andreas -
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 18:52:42 -0700 (MST)
From: BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Dream Theater finding
Message-ID: <199501120152.SAA00265@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
The video you found with Pantera and Dream Theater was "Rock Video
Monthly", right? I subscribed to that for a while, and the Heavy
Metal edition had VERY Heavy Metal (Sepultura, Napalm Death, Cannibal
Corpse, etc."
-Adam
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 20:56:54 -0500 (EST)
From: James Bako <jbako01@barney.poly.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: DT and classical music/ot...
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9501112020.A13139-0100000@barney>
Re: [my long list of bands I like that I posted earlier....]
From: HuntNKill@aol.com
> I guess your neighborhood CD store is cleaned out?
From: Godsize@aol.com
>Is there anything you don't like?!?!?!?
What can I say, except that I have broad tastes? It was hard trying to
condense that list, being that my CD collection hovers about the 500-600
figure.
Stuff I don't like: top 40, country, and cheesy death/black metal.
James
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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 02:03:46 +0000 (GMT)
From: Jeremy Longley <jcl1008@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 644
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950112015950.235A-100000@blue.csi.cam.ac.uk>
some of the CDs near the top of my desk: (other than DT)
Mr Big - Lean into it.
Megadeth - Youthanasia
G'n'R - Appetite for Destruction (their only album that I like)
Dave Lee Roth - Eat 'em and Smile
Pink Floyd - The division bell
Extreme - III sides
Joe Satriani - the time machine
Steve Vai - Passion and Warfare (pure genius, surely..)
[ps I'd _REALLY_ like to know about that February UK date...]
Cheerz, Jezza.
_ _
(_)___ ________ _| | Jeremy Longley - jcl1008@hermes.cam.ac.uk
| / -_)_ /_ / _` |_| Selwyn College
_/ \___/__/__\__,_(_) Cambridge Sattinger's Law:
|__/ It works better if you plug it in...
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 19:47:39 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: MISSION:IMPOSSIBLE!!
Message-ID: <199501120247.TAA02140@bud.indirect.com>
> hello!! hello!! I'm a JAPANESE jammer.
> This is my first post. Thank you!
Koinichii wa Kuniyuki-san! Welcome to the Ytsejam.
(actually, I can't speak Japanese at all.. I just know what I
have learned from anime/manga, which is a little).
How many Ytsejammers do we have now from the land of the Rising
Sun? Twenty?
Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 95 19:12:34 PST
From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Radio Email
Message-ID: <9501120312.AA22896@teng6.fmt>
I sent a message and thus KSJO responded:
======== Fwd by: Solid Rock an ========
======== Fwd by: Dana Jang ========
Zach,
Thanks for your note on the Internet...KSJO is proud to be the only station
^^^^^^^^^^^^
in Northern California to play Dream Theater.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I guess this is standard fare, but what about 104.1
(Stockton/Modesto) and KRXQ 93 Rock in Sacramento
(the station that tops `em all, IMO)? Maybye I'll
apply for a job in Sac...
I'll pass your comments on to
Uncle Nasty.
Thanks again for the input.
Dana Jang, KSJO
And
======== Fwd by: Solid Rock an ========
======== Fwd by: Greg Stone ========
I'm just one man, hey remember I"m not the boss!
But I bet I can turn you on to some Dream Theater.
peace and thanks for listening.
Nasty
So, they are listening. If you live
within broadcast range, send a message!
Zach
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 21:37:34 -0500
From: JennieBear@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Pretty Maids
Message-ID: <950111213122_6158995@aol.com>
>>>Someone said a few days ago that one of the bands they liked was Pretty
Maids! I didn't think anyone else had ever heard of them? Are they still
together? What was there last CD?<<<
Actually, I was the one to mention Pretty Maids. I got introduced to them
from my husband - and he'd received a copy from a friend of his. We both
enjoy the tape so much that about six months ago, we tried to look them up on
the Muze at Tower. That was a depressing day: everything we looked up (Fates
Warning, Dream Theater, and Pretty Maids) was out-of-print. Well, later, we
were able to track down Fates (the old stuff was reissued) and Dream Theater
(WDADU came from a used/specialty shop), but no luck in the Pretty Maids
department. : ( It's tough to get dubbed copies 'cause no one seems to have
heard of 'em!
Better hope our tape doesn't break then... I'm quite fond of driving with it
- it just strikes me as good music for zipping down the freeway!
Jen
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"Could we see clearer in a virtual reality?" * Magellan
"I am the beat of your pulse, the computer word made flesh." * Queensryche
jenniebear@aol.com kethry@netcom.com
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 21:32:58 -0800
From: pgor@netcom.com (Paul Goracke)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Favorite music
Message-ID: <v01510100ab3a60659667@DialupEudora>
Oh, how I usually abhor these things. I tried to hold out, really I did.
So, in alpha order, cause that's the way they sit on the wall:
Anthrax, Blues Traveler, Boiled in Lead, Clapton, Crash Test Dummies,
Robert Cray, Curve, Danzig, Miles Davis, DT, Tinsley Ellis, Gear Daddies,
Genesis, Golden Earring, Stuart Hamm, Mickey Hart, Hendrix, Iron Maiden,
Tull, Billy Joel, Eric Johnson, Kansas, King's X, Marillion, Megadeth,
Metallica, Ministry, Bob Mould, New Model Army, NIN, Michael Penn, Pink
Floyd, Primus, Police, Queensryche, Bonnie Raitt, Ray & Glover,
Replacements, Rush, Satriani, Screaming Trees, Sisters of Mercy, Smashing
Pumpkins, Soundgarden, Sugar, Andy Summers, Therapy?, Toad the Wet
Sprocket, Urge Overkill, Vai, SRV, Roger Waters, Muddy Waters, Zappa (Frank
and Dweezil)
Classical (yes, I do keep them separate - different moods): Bach, Dvorak,
Handel, Mahler, Mozart (esp. Requiem), Orff, Arvo Part, Rachmaninoff
. and the other 2/3 of my collection which doesn't spend quite as much
time trickling into my brain. Very few soundtracks do it for me.
.my two cents (hey, somebody slipped a Canadian one in on me.. now how am
I supposed to get rid of _that_? :^)
-Paul
"Beaten paths are for beaten men." - _Unix Shell Programming_
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 22:50:44 -0500 (EST)
From: William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Indiana Jones Soundtrack
Message-ID: <kj5_QI200iV4E5DbZA@andrew.cmu.edu>
Excerpts from ytsejam: 11-Jan-95 Indiana Jones Soundtrack by Godsize@aol.com
> The soundtrack for the Last Crusade blows away the Star Wars sndtrk. Does
> anyone else agree? Just my 2 cents.
>
Belly of the Steel Beast blows away pretty much everything else john
williams has done by itself, imo
you know that the blood you shall reap-william bajzek-impaler@cmu.edu
is the blood that you shall sow--golgotha--http://www.contrib.andrew.
till the rivers run red----symphony in extremis---cmu.edu/u/wb2a/home
and there's nothing left at all-arr!-stuff-hahahaha--busy... me? HAHA
-cds for sale: http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/u/wb2a/cdsale.html-
guitars, not-very-impressive backing vocals, and songwriter, aepithix
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 23:06:47 -0500 (EST)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver>
To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: LIE single
Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9501112347.A10472-9100000@bdmserver>
cdconnection.com now has the European LIE single for $11+
they also have the train of consequences by Megadeth for the same
price if anyone is interested.
no fates though:(
Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com
"Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater
"That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files
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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 0:40:55 EST
From: gary.schrock@ssc.msu.edu
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: fates warning suggestions?
Message-ID: <wev7+M2A3ja@ssc.msu.edu>
Ok, it's time for me to display my total ignorance. I've seen lots of
people here mentioning this band, so I've been considering checking them
out. Do they only have one album available right now or more? If it's more
than one, would anyone care to make suggestions on what I should look into
first?
Gary Schrock
gary.schrock@ssc.msu.edu
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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 01:58:45 -0500
From: "Mark A. Parker" <parkerma@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: To the person making copies of the Toronto show
Message-ID: <199501120658.BAA04384@white.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu>
Sometime in December someone offered to make copies
of the Toronto show. I'll be damned if I can
remember who it was. Anyways, I sent what I was
supposed to, but haven't heard anything from
you yet.
If you were doing this and can contact me, please
do so. Else I will be checking my Ytse-jam
back issues for addresses for the next few
days and see if I can figure out who.
Dom'ny
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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 02:38:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: SEVERINE@ACC.FAU.EDU
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Favorite bands... & Your DT cover top 10
Message-ID: <01HLQNFMVIVMA4LBNP@acc.fau.edu>
Since everyone else has posted favorites, figured I might as well too!
Also with all the bands being listed, I got to thinking about what
covers I'd like to see Dream Theater perform at that "secret gig" (if
I was in the UK...). So how 'bout it, anyone have a top-ten list
of covers you'd like to see performed by DT. I'll give mine after some
favorite bands of mine. I like most kinds of music, however my CD
collection (1100 and counting, not a misprint, I won a contest a few years
back, $5000 worth of CDs, was a nice feeling to walk into the store and say
"give me these, and not having to reach for the wallet) is mostly rock/metal
and I listen to the radio when I'm in the mood for something else. Some
favorite bands are:
Van Halen (Mostly DLR era, Sammy's ok too)
Dream Theater, Rush, Aerosmith, Dokken, Queensryche, Extreme, Zebra
Priest (early to mid 80's), Maiden (up to 7thson), Whitesnake
Scorpions, Satriani, The Moores (Gary & Vinnie), MacAlpine, Vai
early Ying-Yang Malmsteen (Alcatrazz & first 3 or 4 solos)
Kansas, Prophet (NJ band with DT qualities, went the pop-metal
route on their CDs, still good though, in fact one of their songs
has a guitar solo that is very close to the solo in Another Day...)
Foreigner, Cheap Trick, Boston, Zeppelin, Nugent...
Definately a straight ahead rock-type... But on the radio, I'll listen to
anything except rap & country, strictly for a change of pace.
Here goes my top-10 covers list: (No particular order)
1. Rush - Side One of Hemispheres (ok, not one song, but DT likes
the 'roman-numeral" songs as well : ) )
2. Iron Maiden - Trooper
3. Judas Priest - Victim of changes
4. Zebra - Who's Behind the door
5. Kansas - The Wall
6. Van Halen - Feel your love tonight
7. Dregs - Cruise Control (w. Guest app by Steve Morse, a big fan
of DT and John P.) Into solo by John P. consisting of:
a. Eruption -VH / b. Satch Boogie - Satriani (both w/ band)
c. for the love of God - Vai d. Broons Bane-Rush
e. Beg. of Lavilla Strang. - Rush
f. Beg. of Sails of Charon - Scorpions (w/ Band)
8. Song on Vinnie Moore's first album w/ keyboards that remind me
of the keyboard solo in Take the Time (sorry, can't remember title)
9. YYZ - Rush
Including Mike doing drum solo from Exit Stage left in middle
of song...
10. What's on my mind/ Carry on Wayward Son/ Rest of Leftoverture- Kansas
(album reminds me very much of DT...
9. Pink Floyd - Mother, particularly for the solo
10. Queensryche -
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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 1995 00:49:27 PST
From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: fates warning suggestions?
Message-ID: <199501120849.AAA24674@netcom9.netcom.com>
No... fates warning has seven studio albums... here's a discography.
Early FW sounds maidenish with a progressive sound to it... Beginning on
No Exit they begin to morph into the new sound. Perfect Symmetry some
would argue as the most progressive album ever made by any band...
Parallels is also a masterpiece.. then Inside Out...
******************************************************************************
FATES WARNING
DISCOGRAPHY
Compiled by Mike Borella
<borella@cs.ucdavis.edu>
******************************************************************************
TITLE: Night on Brocken
RELEASE INFO: 1984 CD US Metal Blade Records 71103-2
MUSICIANS: John Arch - Vocals
Jim Matheos - Guitars
Victor Arduini - Guitars
Joe DiBiase - Bass
Steve Zimmerman - Drums
TRACKS: 1) Buried Alive 4:35
2) The Calling 5:04
3) Kiss of Death 4:39
4) Night on Brocken 5:28
5) S.E.K. 1:12
6) Misfit 5:06
7) Shadowfax 3:15
8) Damnation 6:27
9) Soldier Boy 6:34
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TITLE: The Spectre Within
RELEASE INFO: 1985 CD US Metal Blade Records 72088-2
MUSICIANS: John Arch - Vocals
Jim Matheos - Guitars
Victor Arduini - Guitars
Joe DiBiase - Bass
Steve Zimmerman - Drums
TRACKS: 1) Traveller in Time 7:11
2) Orphan Gypsy 6:00
3) Without a Trace 4:50
4) Pirates of the Underground 7:07
5) The Apparition 5:50
6) Kyrie Eleison 5:27
7) Epitaph 12:00
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TITLE: Awaken the Guardian
RELEASE INFO: 1986 CD US Metal Blade Records CDE-73231
MUSICIANS: John Arch - Vocals
Jim Matheos - Guitars
Frank Aresti - Guitars
Joe DiBiase - Bass
Steve Zimmerman - Drums
TRACKS: 1) The Sorceress 5:42
2) Velley of the Dolls 5:22
3) Fata Morgana 5:21
4) Guardian 7:31
5) Prelude to Ruin 7:21
6) Giants Lore (Heart of Winter) 6:00
7) Time Long Past 1:40
8) Exodus 8:35
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TITLE: No Exit
RELEASE INFO: 1988 CD US Metal Blade Records D2-73330
MUSICIANS: Ray Alder - Vocals
Jim Matheos - Guitars
Frank Aresti - Guitars
Joe DiBiase - Bass
Steve Zimmerman - Drums
TRACKS: 1) No Exit 0:40
2) Anarchy Divine 3:46
3) Silent Cries 3:17
4) In a Word 4:25
5) Shades of Heavenly Death 5:56
6) The Ivory Gate of Dreams 21:25
a) Innocence [1:13]
b) Cold Daze [2:15]
c) Daylight Dreams [3:06]
d) Quietus [4:25]
e) Ivory Tower [3:17]
f) Whispers on the Wind [2:24]
g) Acquiesence [4:24]
h) Retrospect [1:01]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TITLE: Perfect Symmetry
RELEASE INFO: 1989 CD US Metal Blade Records 7 73408-2
MUSICIANS: Ray Alder - Vocals
Jim Matheos - Guitars
Frank Aresti - Guitars
Joe DiBiase - Bass
Mark Zonder - Drums
TRACKS: 1) Part of the Machine 6:15
2) Through Different Eyes 4:21
3) Static Acts 4:27
4) A World Apart 5:03
5) At Fates Hands 6:58
6) The Arena 3:17
7) Chasing Time 3:38
8) Nothing Left to Say 7:57
NOTES: Keyboards on At Fates Hands by Kevin Moore of Dream Theatre, violins
on At Fates Hands by Faith Fraeoli.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TITLE: Parallels
RELEASE INFO: 1991 CD US Metal Blade Records 9 26698-2
MUSICIANS: Ray Alder - Vocals
Jim Matheos - Guitars
Frank Aresti - Guitars
Joe DiBiase - Bass
Mark Zonder - Drums
TRACKS: 1) Leave the Past Behind 6:14
2) Life in Still Water 5:44
3) Eye to Eye 4:06
4) The Eleventh Hour 8:12
5) Point of View 5:07
6) We Only Say Goodbye 4:56
7) Don't Follow Me 4:42
8) The Road Goes on Forever 6:32
NOTES: Guest Vocals on Life in Still Water by James Labrie of Dream Theatre.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TITLE: Inside Out
RELEASE INFO: 1994 CD US Metal Blad Records P2 53915
MUSICIANS: Ray Alder - Vocals
Jim Matheos - Guitars
Frank Aresti - Guitars
Joe DiBiase - Bass
Mark Zonder - Drums
TRACKS: 1) Outside Looking In 4:50
2) Pale Fire 4:17
3) The Strand 5:29
4) Shelter Me 4:45
5) Island in the Stream 6:30
6) Down to the Wire 4:30
7) Face the Fear 5:37
8) Inward Bound 2:34
9) Monument 6:34
10) Afterglow 3:26
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(drkhoe@netcom.com)
other recordings:
"At Fates Fingers" - Guitar for the Practicing Musician CD Volume 4
Fully instrumental re-mix of "At Fates Hands"
"Kyrie Eleison" - River's Edge soundtrack.
Above file available at the FTP site..
-The Doc
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