YTSEJAM digest 734

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 734

    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: Song poll
     by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
      2) Re: Buddy Rich Tribute
     by Jeff Stewart <jstewart@sparc.isl.net>
      3) DT Poll problem?
     by Paul Holloway <pjhollow@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
      4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 728
     by Tim Spear <Tspear@veilmaya.demon.co.uk>
      5) "dream bands" n other stuff!!
     by Tim Spear <Tspear@veilmaya.demon.co.uk>
      6) Fave/unfave band stuff
     by freak@cube.net (Alex Reinelt)
      7) DT cover bands and other whatsuch...
     by rhenley@gac.edu (Richard K Henley)
      8) London COVER-gig ++
     by q94hg@thn.htu.se (Henrik Gustafsson)
      9) hiyas
     by APJ <japhet@romulus.rutgers.edu>
     10) Re: MIDWESTERN CONVENTION??
     by James Bickers <jbickers@iglou.com>
     11) No DT Content
     by Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
     12) new FW CD...
     by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
     13) DT Line-Up
     by torh@cogs.susx.ac.uk (Tor Houghton)
     14) Kevin Moore demo's down under?
     by PHS300Z@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
     15) Re: Burning for Buddy
     by "JOEL HARRELD" <JHARRELD@sbuniv.edu>
     16)
     by Slick Doggy Dawg <polzin@glibm11.cen.uiuc.edu>
     17) Re: DT at ProgFest Idea
     by ALVAREZ1@AppleLink.Apple.COM (Alvarez, Paul)
     18) Re: DT at ProgFest Idea2
     by ALVAREZ1@AppleLink.Apple.COM (Alvarez, Paul)
     19) Awake Cover/Silent Man
     by Steve Borzilleri <silenzio@elwha.evergreen.edu>
     20) Nightmare Bands
     by James Bickers <jbickers@iglou.com>
     21) Brian Cox + Echolyn
     by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
     22) Re: YTSEJAM digest 733
     by Boo-ba Fett <jmh@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>

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    Date: Sat, 4 Mar 1995 23:55:53 -0500 (EST)
    From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam SERVER)
    Subject: Re: Song poll
    Message-ID: <199503050455.XAA15666@opal.cs.brandeis.edu>

    Just a quick note for any European 'jammer who is going to see a show
    soon... Make sure to print out a copy of the poll and pass it along
    to the guys if you see them after the show... Especially Mike...
    (hey... maybe they'll add LTL to the set list by the time they make
    it back on their 2nd tour... :)

    -- 
    +----------------------------------------+----------------+---------+
    | And I'll smile and learn to pretend    | Dream Theater  | Michael |
    | And I'll never be open again           | Space Dye Vest | Burstin |
    | And I'll have no more dreams to defend |-----Awake------+---------+
    | And I'll never be open again           |   Pgh Penguins: 14-4-2   |
    +----------------------------------------+--------------------------+
         For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
    	       http://cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/home.html
    

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    Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 02:48:49 -0600 (CST) From: Jeff Stewart <jstewart@sparc.isl.net> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Buddy Rich Tribute Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.950305024510.6200A-100000@sparc.isl.net>

    I started looking for this CD the week after it was released and was able to get my hands on a promotional copy that my local music store sold me since they were out of them. I do have to say that it is an EXCELLENT CD and a must for ANY drummer whether you like Big Band music or not. It'll absolutely blow you away. The idea of putting drummers from all genres of music into Buddy's shoes is phenominal. Check it out.

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    Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 04:36:37 -0500 From: Paul Holloway <pjhollow@novice.uwaterloo.ca> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: DT Poll problem? Message-ID: <Pine.3.87.9503050437.C18243-0100000@novice.uwaterloo.ca>

    (Tthis is pjhollow@microcity.com using my other address...)

    Ok, if more than one person didn't get the DT Poll results included in YtseJam730, then something is definately wrong here. Airdance (Jen) so kindly posted the results a 2nd time for me because I thought the problem was at my end, but now I'm starting to think that it may not have.

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    Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 12:30:03 +0000 From: Tim Spear <Tspear@veilmaya.demon.co.uk> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 728 Message-ID: <9503051227.aa25098@post.demon.co.uk>

    {zonder..} >And he's my favorite drummer. If you want to know why, listen >to Point of View (from Parallels) and Monument (from Inside Out.) >I also really like Fates' old drummer, Steve Zimmerman, and >his work on No Exit is, in my opinion, some of the best produced >drumwork out there. The snares just hit *so* hard...

    couldnt agree more, mate!!! Zonder is also my fave drummer and I`ll actually get to see him play on the 15th when they hit london!!! what amazes me is that he can have such power when he plays orthodox (left hand using a side-on grip).I dont even think I can hit as hard as that using matched grip!

    cheers

    Let the light surround you.... cheers Tim...

    "No-one can grow with nothing to inspire" -Fates Warning.

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    Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 12:29:56 +0000 From: Tim Spear <Tspear@veilmaya.demon.co.uk> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: "dream bands" n other stuff!! Message-ID: <9503051227.aa25051@post.demon.co.uk>

    ok.. a few points!

    firstly my dream band!: (the guys after the slashes are the deps if someone was injured :-)) vocals: robert lowe (solitude aeturnus)/james labrie lead guitar: john mcClaughlin (mahavishnu orchestra)/paul masvidal (cynic) rhythm guitar: jim matheos (fates)/frank aresti (fates) bass: john myung (errr?)/steve digiordo (death-period) drums: sean reinert (cynic)/ mark zonder (fates)

    anyway! I will be getting an ntsc copy of the DT special on Headbangers MTV soon and Im gonna send to dr mosh, so... maybe some of you USA people might like to see it?

    is anyone on the list going to the Queensryche and DT shows in LONDON? if so e-mail me and we`ll have a beer!...

    thats all for now!

    Let the light surround you.... cheers Tim...

    "No-one can grow with nothing to inspire" -Fates Warning.

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    Date: Sun, 5 Mar 95 13:56:24 MET From: freak@cube.net (Alex Reinelt) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Fave/unfave band stuff Message-ID: <m0rlFrF-00013EC@cubnt1.cube.net>

    Yo!

    As I tried to express already I must also underline that I find it absolutely wrong place here to discuss what band everybody likes and what not. Causes really big traffic - but not any information that this list should really lead to. Man, I'm here to discuss and to hear interesting things bout DT that are not covered by any magazine and not to pay big amounts for my mail traffic and waste my time by flying over millions of messagelines about who likes which singer and so on. Better we have few traffic....if there are no new things to discuss. Ytsejam gets very uninteresting with all these disucssions because many people (at least me) tend to ignore the few intersting things which are hidden between all these "i like that band...think of that bad basser!"-mails! Freak

    ( Alexander Reinelt from Munich/Germany - freakmarked since 1987 ) freak@cube.net Alex_Reinelt@2:2480/66 ( fax:(++ 49 89) 689 18 71 voice:(++ 49 89) 68 33 40 ) I use & highly recommend Sony MINI-DISC for portable audio!

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    Date: Sat, 4 Mar 1995 18:57:09 (CST) From: rhenley@gac.edu (Richard K Henley) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Digest ) Subject: DT cover bands and other whatsuch... Message-ID: <199503050057.SAA13095@hermes.gac.edu>

    Hi everyone it's Rick-

    I've only posted on the digest once before (pertaining to a DT lick) and received great response from fellow guitar players. There seem to be a lot of experienced six-string virtuosos floating around on the net. I've even read several letters by persons claiming to have the ability to play such songs as Erotomania and other DT masterpieces. I have a few things to say about these, and I am in no way being critical or skeptical, I'm just curious: 1>-Why would someone of this musical ability not already be in a band? Good musicians are in demand; anyone who can truely play at this level should not be looking for buddies to jam with on an internet mailing list. They should have an add in the paper as well as a demo tape, which leads me to number... 2>-If these are true claims, I would LOVE to have a recording of these persons playing their instruments! I am a guitar player myself and would be excited to hear other players who have established a solid level of playing ability. I would gladly pay postage and a buck or two in return for a home recording of a DT guitar track, as well as a commentary on how this person developed their ability (warm up drills, practice routine, etc...). I am not ashamed to admit that there are many, many John Pettrucci (sp?) licks that I cannot do, including the string skipping part in Erotomania, the UAGM solo (excellent tune), and just about everything else he does. If someone could give me guidence, I would more than appreciate it. I've got the speed, but no direction.

    If anyone is interested in giving me a mail-order lesson on how to play a few DT tunes (UAGM, Lie, AFIL in particular), E-mail me at rhenley@gac.edu and we'll work something out.

    One more thing...

    Here's my own nightmare band:

    Vocals - Jabba the Hut Guitars - Jimmy Buffet and Dwight Yokum (sp) Bass - That kid in the guitar store who is always playing Nirvana Drums - Garth

    "Everyday I turn little cogs that turn bigger cogs. And for every hour I do this, I receive a penny, half of which goes to pay the big screen that tells me I am very happy indeed..." -Author Unknown

    Rick.

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    Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 14:36:01 +0100 From: q94hg@thn.htu.se (Henrik Gustafsson) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: London COVER-gig ++ Message-ID: <m0rlGIt-0000J3C@tellus.thn.htu.se>

    Hi This message is for Rob Chinneck, Liverpool ! The man that recorded Dream Theater's COVERgig in London some time ago.

    I would really want a tape or two of that. Accidently I must have erased your E-mail address, and I really want to get in contact with you. I think I can get some GBP now and I wonder if I should send them to your *REAL*address, that one I've got. Still it would be nice to hear from you first, just to make me more sure that you really are out there. So please Email me as soon as possible.

    q94hg@thn.htu.se

    BTW if someone else reads this, and have Rob's E-mail, feel free to send it to me.

    ================ AND to the persons that keep starting those *nonsense* question like: who's the oldest YJ Dream band How long you can live without DT -Please stop. I find them at NO interest, and so do a lot of others, I believe. There are too much of this. some question once in a while is nice, but not half of the YtseJam-mails. ============== AND to all of you little private-eye's out there. I doubt that Dream Theater really is trying to put a little bit of every song in the picture. I do enjoy reading your explanations, though. It's great to hear another persons opinion on the songs, they aren't that easy to figure out after all. Earlier, that is some years ago, there were a lot of these sort of "what the songs where about"-talk on YtseJam. I liked that, sort of miss it now.

    Hopefully no one got offended. Take care, all of you

    Henrik Gustafsson q94hg@thn.htu.se Dream Theater Drottninggatan 62 c 7 Q94 Toni Holgersson S-461 33 Trollha:ttan IE-91 Just D +46 (0)520-155 98 070-814 24 38 Fish

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    Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 08:32:33 -0500 From: APJ <japhet@romulus.rutgers.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: hiyas Message-ID: <199503051332.IAA26892@romulus.rutgers.edu>

    Hi there everyone, I've just recently joined the YTSEJAM mailing list and have read a couple of batches of posts before I decided to post anything here.

    - Jason Becker. Much as I love Petrucci's playing and style, Becker and Friedman will probably always be my 'gods'. Even though Friedman has had to tone his solo's down a bit due to Mustaine's selling out, he still displays an ability to play anything with almost utter perfection (listening to him live is like listening to the album) As far as Becker, I thought I heard rumors that he might have another solo album out (tribute?) - On the subject of Bootlegs, I hope it's not a forbidden topic because I haven't heard it spoken of much on here, but here goes. Anyone have a good source for DT boots? One place I know of (other than the very rare one popping up at my local album stores) is http://cdnow.com. They have a few up there, including the only one I have so far (Dream Out Loud). I've read the bootleg list and I see that I've got quite a ways to go! - The Death Gate cycle is a very good series...I have to get the sixth and seventh book and finish it. For those of you w/ CD roms and a fast computer, you should check out the CD game version of the series, I have that too and it's pretty cool.

    Enough for now, no need to fill up one digest by myself :) APJ

    --RAB25120.794269016/romulus.rutgers.edu--

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    Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 10:24:39 -0500 (EST) From: James Bickers <jbickers@iglou.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: MIDWESTERN CONVENTION?? Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950305102400.22942A-100000@iglou>

    > WORST BAND: > Vocals/Guitar: Kurt Cobain > Bass: Whatever that tall freak is (Nice catch!) > Drums: Dave Grohl > oops...THAT'S NIRVANA! (it's all the same anyway)

    Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you. I thought I was all alone in feeling this way.

    James

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    Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 12:07:20 -0500 (EST) From: Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: No DT Content Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.90.950305115434.12185A-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>

    > Drum: Satriani's Drummer (two words Bass Snare, Bass, Snare, Bass, Snare, > Bass, Snare you get the picture....Boring!!)

    You dare to bad mouth Jonathan Mover and Gregg Bissonette?!

    Man! You ever seen the Satch/Mover/Hamm trio live? Good god!

    Hold thy tounge!

    It's not like they can't play. But, when you get down to it, most of Satriani's songs are in 4/4, and pretty much call for that. (of course, I LOVE the Mystical Potato Head Groove Thing, even though it is a DRUM MACHINE!)

    > Drums: Bill Berry <is that his name? the guy from REM?> Didn't he have some kind of aneurism? He went into a hospital in switzerland the other day...

    I dunno. I kinda like R.E.M. - they've had some good songs.

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    Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 12:30:53 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam SERVER) Subject: new FW CD... Message-ID: <199503051730.MAA16585@opal.cs.brandeis.edu>

    I emailed Maria over at Metal Blade, and she told me that the Chasing Time CD is to be a compilation CD that it was to be released here (in the US) this summer... Hoipe this helps... -- +----------------------------------------+----------------+---------+ | And I'll smile and learn to pretend | Dream Theater | Michael | | And I'll never be open again | Space Dye Vest | Burstin | | And I'll have no more dreams to defend |-----Awake------+---------+ | And I'll never be open again | Pgh Penguins: 14-4-2 | +----------------------------------------+--------------------------+ For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu http://cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/home.html

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    Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 18:53:33 GMT From: torh@cogs.susx.ac.uk (Tor Houghton) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: DT Line-Up Message-ID: <m0rlLQr-00001dC@cste.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk>

    Is it me, or have I lost track of everything?

    What is the current line-up of Dream Theater?

    I'm seeing them over heer in the UK on the 15th, so I thought it would help if I knew what names to yell at (read: praise ;).

    Cheers,

    Tor.

    --

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- email: torh@cogs.sussex.ac.uk "Deep down underneath it all I have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar, on my desk." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Mon, 06 Mar 1995 07:43:52 +1100 From: PHS300Z@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Kevin Moore demo's down under? Message-ID: <01HNT3IFQQYA9JD7B3@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>

    Hi all,

    Does anyone know of a dub site in Australia? If so, please e-mail me and let me know.

    thanks

    Adam

    phs300z@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au

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    Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 16:36:57 CDT From: "JOEL HARRELD" <JHARRELD@sbuniv.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Burning for Buddy Message-ID: <94C3096DAA@sbumast.sbuniv.edu>

    >> I just bought the "Burning for Buddy: A Tribute to The Music of Buddy >> Rich." I absolutely think that every drummer should take a listen to it.

    >I keep looking for this album in every store I go to! I can never find it!

    >There are other Buddy Rich albums in the Jazz section, but perhaps would >this album be somewhere else? Please help! What section would this be >under and what name? (Peart perhaps?)

    Try Various Artist's in the jazz section

    ********************************************************************** Joel Harreld Media Services Supervisor Southwest Baptist University email: jharreld@sbuniv.edu Bolivar, Mo Phone: (417)326-1627 "I think, therefore I am; I am, therefore I think; I become overly concerned about it, therefore I need a life!" - Jivan **********************************************************************

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    Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 15:49:03 -0600 (CST) From: Slick Doggy Dawg <polzin@glibm11.cen.uiuc.edu> To: ytse jam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.90.950305154807.20843A-100000@glibm11.cen.uiuc.edu>

    Is the silent man single available through cdconnection just have silent man on it or does it have bonus tracks? Just wondering...I think that it is supposed to have bonus tracks on it but i'm not sure. Thanks.

    Ed Polzin

    WWW: http://isr0900.urh.uiuc.edu

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    Date: 06 Mar 95 00:26 GMT From: ALVAREZ1@AppleLink.Apple.COM (Alvarez, Paul) To: YTSEJAM@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: DT at ProgFest Idea Message-ID: <794449961.9340244@AppleLink.Apple.COM>

    Ken Bibb writes this concerning the idea of having DT headline ProgFest: >This won't work--there are many prog rock fans who don't believe that >Dream Theater are prog rock (they're prog metal). Since prog fest is >for prog rock... > >Of course it's conceivable, but I just don't think it would be a good >match. > >-- >Ken Bibb "Upon a wave of summer >kbibb@arastar.com A hilltop paved with gold >jester@crash.cts.com We shut our eyes and make the promises we hold" David Sylvian--"Wave" Let me respond and ask a question: Are Prog metal and Prog rock mutually exclusive in terms of billing for something like this? I happen to like both and would rather go to an event like this that included some of each. How do you all feel about a combination event? I've noted in the past that some jammers don't care for Prog rock just metal while others (most I think) listen to both. I got your info offline on how to reach the company that sponsors ProgFest and I think it's worth pursuing. Paul

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    Date: 06 Mar 95 00:33 GMT From: ALVAREZ1@AppleLink.Apple.COM (Alvarez, Paul) To: YTSEJAM@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: DT at ProgFest Idea2 Message-ID: <794449993.9329746@AppleLink.Apple.COM>

    Doc writes the following concerning the DT at ProgFest idea: >We just need a Prog Fest which isn't the small Prog Fest that's regional, >we need a SERIOUS Prog Fest, with really big progressive bands... like DT, >QR, Rush, etc... > >What would we call it? Monument '96 >-The Doc Doc, Great idea! I think the crossover pull of QR and Rush could pull in a number of people who've never heard DT and other progressive music. If the promoter sees big ticket sales it might interest them. So how do we make it happen?? Paul

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    Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 16:54:20 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Borzilleri <silenzio@elwha.evergreen.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Awake Cover/Silent Man Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9503051627.A3241-0100000@elwha.evergreen.edu>

    To Zack Gemmill - Keep in mind that all of what I said was off the top of my head, from when I first got the album. I never even thought to investigate "who" that statue was, the reason being that the gold mirror on the cover looked suspiciously computer-generated, so I wasn't about to assume that the statue was as real as it looked! True, the statue could be a real one, it could be Michelangelo's "Moses." It's good to see that someone has actually identified one of the symbols on the cover! (as in, "that mirror was used by Joan of Arc," or something) Now, we must open our Bibles to the story of Moses, hee hee, more literature for Dream Theater analysis!!! Yessss, I can feel the insanity setting in...

    Anyway, "The Silent Man" is another song I am basically "clueless" on when it comes to its meaning. I was able to explain a few of the lines for a partial understanding, but the song as a whole is beyond me! Something tells me even if Petrucci were to say what it was about, his answer would be another lyrical riddle to figure out! He's probably laughing at us right now! "Clueless! You're both utterly clueless!! Hahahahahaaaa!!" So maybe if we figure out what the song means first, we could relate it to one of the symbols on the album cover.

    Seriously though, even without the statue, the song would still remind me of Oedipus. And vice versa, even without the song, the statue would probably still look exactly the same, exactly like whoever it is supposed to symbolize(Moses?). I guess what that all means is that "The Silent Man" may not correlate with the statue at all! (more laughter from Petrucci) But still, based on the angles of the statue and the mirror, the man is definitely looking INTO the mirror. So now we have to figure out who the statue is and why he's looking into a mirror...anyone? (not to mention the 241 other questions there are to answer about DT symbols and lyrics!)

    A while back someone asked who the best female vocalist would be to match James LaBrie in a "Suite Sister Mary" type of duet. Only one comes to mind (similar sound and range): Ann Wilson of Heart.

    As for a Dream Band: Sammy Hagar (vocals), Blues Saraceno & Nuno Bettencourt (twin-attack rhythm & lead guitars), Billy Sheehan (bass), Mike Portnoy (drums). Now this might not be the best possible five-person band that could ever exist, but I REALLY think that those five would work well together, being five extremely rhythmic musicians!

    Silenzio :: Out

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    Date: Sun, 5 Mar 1995 10:36:18 -0500 (EST) From: James Bickers <jbickers@iglou.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Nightmare Bands Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950305103207.22942B-100000@iglou>

    OK, I have to jump on this bandwagon. The Nightmare Band idea is just too fun. Aside from some nightmare bands that have actually existed - like Nirvana, Tesla and the Smithereens - here is my lineup.

    Vocals: Kurt Cobain Acoustic Guitar: Willie Nelson (ever heard him try to play?) Guitar: The chick from the Breeders (not the lead singer, the other one) Bass: Michael Anthony Drums: Anyone who has ever played for AC/DC, and/or dude from U2.

    James

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    Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 00:19:58 -0500 (EST) From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Brian Cox + Echolyn Message-ID: <199503060519.AAA17636@umbc9.umbc.edu>

    ATTENTION BRIAN COX!!!! Could you please send me your e-mail address? I wanna trade with you but most of my mail box got wiped out.

    I've seen the band Echolyn mentioned on here a few times so I just thought I'd talk about them for a few lines. I first heard them on a sampler tape (thanks Mike) which contianed one song called As The World. This song is great. I would kinda describe the band as if Dream Theater, after Images and Words, had gonna in the opposite direction of Awake. Its a lighter, more jazzy type of sound. The band has great guitar work and excellent keyboard work. And one thing they have on DT is vocal harmonies, not just one guy but usually 2 or 3 others and they even can pull this off live (or so I'm told). The harmonies are on par with Extreme and the Cowboys (the Galatic ones, not the Dallas ones :) ). The singer is also good and I would describe his voice as sounding kinda like Joe Jackson. You can tell that the drummer (who is awesome) definatly has more of a jazz background, for those of you (like me) who enjoy that style of druming. I think they have 2 or 3 old albums which are very hard to get. They were signed by Sony and there new album , As The World, is coming out this Tuesday, March 7th. I would recommend checking it out if you can. If you do any trading with me, I'd be happy to give you a copy of some of their stuff. Oh, for a sample of their lyrics, check out my new sig.

    /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \ L. Jason Hartman | "I'm pushing my brain to think a little harder, / / lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu | to learn from the simple, and question the complex.\ \ | If logic and reason are the gods that you follow, / / Live Tape Trader - | then you'll drowned in your souls emptyness." \ \ Your List Gets Mine | - "As The World", Echolyn / / | -<*>- Dream Theater Rules!!!! -<*>- \ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

    What do ya think?

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    Date: Mon, 6 Mar 1995 00:21:28 -0700 (MST) From: Boo-ba Fett <jmh@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 733 Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.90.950305013345.25295A-100000@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>

    I really in no way want to offend anyone, but IMHO: ------------------------------

    Date: Fri, 3 Mar 1995 19:55:40 -0600 (CST) From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> Subject: Complilation Tape of Prog-Bands > > Here is a listing of all bands I have and what albums I have: > > (Progressive Metal) > [STUFF DELETED] > Joe Satriani: Time Machine > Joe? I don't know that his stuff is really prog metal, but then again that's just a label anyways...

    > If you want me to scream into a tape recorder for 100 minutes, tell me. > Now this might be cool. What kind of screaming? Would it be progressive screaming? :)

    > ------------------------------ > Date: Sat, 04 Mar 1995 13:23:30 -0500 (EST) > From: Shawna Lea of the Many Nicknames <SADAMS1@WELLESLEY.EDU> > Subject: Nightmare band just one more...:) > > Lyrics and Music: John Deacon and Roger Taylor (no offense, but listen > to Misfire and Don't Lose Your Head, and you will totally understand.) > Yeah, maybe those songs are kinda cheese, but they were kinda meant to be. John and Roger have done good songwriting, look at [SOME GOOD SONGS] of course, this is only IMHO.

    OK, OK, I just looked, and you probably have somewhat of a point. Roger's lyrics are really really repetative, and he is repetative. John has done some decent lyrical work, but nothing good enough for me to remember right now. I will disagree on them writing bad music, very very little Queen has even close to bad music.

    BTW- One thing I noticed, Steve Howe played on _Innuendo_!

    > Shawna Lea Adams > > ------------------------------ > Date: Sat, 4 Mar 1995 15:03:47 -0500 (EST) > From: Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com> > Subject: Re: Nightmare band > > > I know there are many out there who will agree: I have gained absolutely > > NOTHING from reading these dream band lists. Honestly, who really > > cares what some-person-you-don't-even-know's impression is of their > > ultimate collection of totally unrelated musicians who will never play in > > a band together anyway? > > You're right- I also have gained absolutely nothing by reading these > posts. In fact, I don't read them, I pass over them. It's actually quite > easy. > Well, I think that this is a cool thread, and in fact I like most of the threads. It may not be the easiest thing to skip over, but what do you want, only one digest a day? ;) I am probably wrong, but it seems to me that there is a quite finite number of things that you can talk about about a single band. IMHO, most threads are cool, adding spice to our discussions.

    > Andy > ------------------------------ Sorry that this is so long...

    Boo-ba Fett - aka John Haveman --------------------------------------------------------------- I heard that he tracked down Han Solo! I heard that he escaped from the Sarlac Pit! I heard that he's the greatest bounty hunter ever! Yeah, well I heard that he's a Giant Chicken!

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