YTSEJAM digest 765

Date: Wed Mar 29 1995 - 00:49:51 EST

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 765

    Today's Topics:

      1) Echolyn and Cairo
      2) Re: The sig without enough postage.
     by Eric David Persson <>
      3) Malmsteen on keys
     by Dow M Street <>
      4) Re: eMpTyV
     by Stephen O Boyd <>
      5) Take me off please!
     by John Di Tulio <>
      6) Re: Megadeth Banned (no DT)
     by Stephen O Boyd <>
      7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 762
     by William Wright <>
      8) Re: Malmsteen on keys
     by Dow M Street <>
      9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 764
     10) Brave
     by Boo-ba Fett <>
     11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 762 (fwd)
     by "Bryan F. Stroh" <bfstroh@phoenix.Princeton.EDU>
     12) Oooops! my bootlist
     13) For those of you who understand german!
     by (Ties Goebel)
     14) Rock Over Germany ???!
     by (Ties Goebel)
     15) Warrant's new album
     by zebrowski steven <>
     16) Awake sells, Silent Man story, DT as openers
     by (Ties Goebel)
     17) oops... i'm a dumbass
     by Stephen O Boyd <>
     18) DT on Howard Stern again....
     by "L. Jason Hartman" <>
     19) That question again!
     by (Mark Tiplady)


    Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 14:19:22 -0400 (EDT)
    Subject: Echolyn and Cairo
    Message-ID: <01HOO7JIZ2FS8ZEP87@albnyvms.BITNET>

    Hello, everybody. I've been hearing so much about Echolyn on the ytsejam
    lately, that I figured that I would give my opinion on them. I picked up
    their new disc a few weeks back and I was not instantly gratified with it,
    but after giving it a few listens, I was hooked on it. They know how to mix
    complex music with great melodies, but are not over the top trying to show
    off their skills. It seems to me that most of the jammers can appreciate
    Echolyn's musical skills, but are not very impressed with the music itself.
    The only thing that I can say is to give it a few more listens and it will
    grow on you.

    At the same time that I got the Echolyn CD, I picked up a disc by Cairo.
    I don't like them as much as I like Echolyn, but it is still good. It just
    seems that they write long songs for the sake of having long songs, because
    every tune clocks in around 10 minutes, with the album closer being 22 minutes
    long. I love long songs, but Cairo's long songs don't flow like DT or Yes
    songs. Well, that's just my .02. Any responses are welcomed.



    Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 13:49:40 -0600 (CST)
    From: Eric David Persson <>
    Subject: Re: The sig without enough postage.
    Message-ID: <>

    > ------------------------------
    > Date: Sun, 26 Mar 1995 22:10:47 PST
    > From: (Dr. Mosh)
    > To:
    > Subject: Re: DT watching; LiT clip
    > Message-ID: <>
    > Not a flame or anything... but it really is injustice when your signature
    > is bigger than your post...
    > -The Doc
    > --
    > #$%*#$*@ REAL: + VIRTUAL: *@#$*@#$
    > *$%&%#$* The Dream Theater Archives: /pub/dr/drkhoe/dt &*@#$*@$
    > **%^$#$% WWW: "" #$**@#*$
    > *$*$*$*# Reality Enhancement Software - Engineering Reality *$&#*#@$
    Hello pot, this is the kettle YOU'RE BLACK...(No racial slur intended)

    I think you're post looks kinda small compared to you're sig.

    I just had to defend my fellow Illini.




    Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 16:49:51 -0500 (EST)
    From: Dow M Street <>
    Subject: Malmsteen on keys
    Message-ID: <>

    On March 19, a Jens Johansson posted regarding the demise of
    Headbanger's Ball. Well, I started thinking about it and I was
    wondering if you are the same Jens who used to play with Yngwie?

    Just curious.


    Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 16:25:06 -0500
    From: Stephen O Boyd <>
    Subject: Re: eMpTyV
    Message-ID: <>

    James said:

    > Actually, I believe eMpTyV is owned by Viacom.

    Coincidentally, I was reading an interview with Jello Biafra in which he
    mentioned this fact.



    Date: Tue, 28 Mar 95 16:30:10 EST
    From: John Di Tulio <>
    Subject: Take me off please!
    Message-ID: <>

    Please take me off the list.


    Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 16:32:45 -0500
    From: Stephen O Boyd <>
    Subject: Re: Megadeth Banned (no DT)
    Message-ID: <>

    > It was recently learned that the new Megadeth video for "A Tout Le Monde"
    > was banned from MTV because they think it promotes suicide. Well, instead
    > of making a long post out of this, if anyone is interested in finding
    > out how to help the band and complain to MTV, I have phone numbers
    > and email addresses and also a way to sign a sort of "virtual" petition.
    > Anyone interested can email me to find out more.
    > ---Kryt

    Hey you... I'm interested!

    Gimme some info.



    Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 20:34:11 -0600 (CST)
    From: William Wright <>
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 762
    Message-ID: <>

    > > Yes... so far, Echolyn is the only band who has used a full string
    > > section on a CD that I've heard. (And this is a 95 CD, I'd expect to
    > > strings on a 70s CD, but 95... cool. :))
    > Get Extreme's "III Sides To Every Story." They feature a 78 piece
    > orchestra on a 3 Part, 21 minute trilogy called "Everything Under The Sun."

    What do their other songs sound like? Are they really heavy? or what?
    what kinds of instruments do they use?


    Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 23:05:40 -0500 (EST)
    From: Dow M Street <>
    Subject: Re: Malmsteen on keys
    Message-ID: <>

    Question answered. Thanks.


    Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 22:43:21 EST
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 764
    Message-ID: <>

    Dobronte Gabor wrote:

    >You people in the USA don't know about Psychotic Waltz?

    I do! Had several songs of theirs on one of a gazillion mix tapes I have
    lying around, they're way cool. A couple friends of mine in San Diego are
    diehard fans and they're always complaining that PW is unheard of in the US
    but extremely popular in Europe. Can't find either CD as of yet...

    "Mighty and proud
    reaching up to touch the shroud
    Tangled here
    and far beyond from atrocity"

    PARADISE LOST "Joys of the Emptiness" Jaime the Dragon


    Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 22:02:49 -0700 (MST)
    From: Boo-ba Fett <>
    Cc: Multiple recipients of list <>
    Subject: Brave
    Message-ID: <>

      I just got _Brave_ by Marillion, and I must say that I am quite
    impressed. It's not the style I thought it would be, it's actually
    better. On the surface, they aren't that much like DT but at least
    on _Brave_, they are a great band. Uh oh, my post isn't longer than
    my .sig yet, so I need to ramble on more :)
      Ummm... this is now the third prog band that I have gotten into
    directly because of this list, and the first one that had no outside
    support. I can't wait 'til DT returns to Arizona, I unfortunatly
    missed BOTH AZ shows back in December, and I feel really bad about it.
      See ya'll
                                  Boo-ba Fett - aka John Haveman
           Likely or not, it's a dream that we keep
           And at odds with our senses we'll climb
           But if faith is the answer, we've already reached it
           And if spirit's a sign, then it's Only A Matter Of Time
           Only A Matter Of Time"
                                              Kevin Moore
                                          Only A Matter Of Time


    Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 23:50:37 -0500 (EST)
    From: "Bryan F. Stroh" <bfstroh@phoenix.Princeton.EDU>
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 762 (fwd)
    Message-ID: <>

    Thanks to those who answered my question regarding Max Bacon...
    Ok, while I am on the subject of picking everybody's brains...
    Does anybody know if John Payne (new singer for Asia) has done any other
    work (probably before he joined Asia, but maybe concurrently...)?

    Again, thanks for any info.


    | Bryan F. Stroh | "Tell me, do you believe in |
    | President & CEO of BFS Enterprises | what can't be explained?" |
    | Princeton University | |
    | Class of 1998 | |
    | | - John Wetton "Space And Time" |




    Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 10:16:27 --100
    Subject: Oooops! my bootlist
    Message-ID: <>


    I didn't want to put my bootleglist on THE list. But since it's there feel
    free to mail me.



    Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 13:13:07 +0200 (MET DST)
    From: (Ties Goebel)
    Subject: For those of you who understand german!
    Message-ID: <>

    Hi 'jammers,
    My brother just wrote a review of the Berlin DT concert for his
    school magazine, I thought this could be interesting for those
    of you who understand german... so here it goes:

    Dream Theater 26.Februar 95 HuxleyFs Neue Welt
    Fates Warning

    Musik in Perfektion
    Fr dieses Konzert die passenden Superlative zu finden, fllt
    schwer. Denn wer von Dream Theater ein reines Abspulen des
    kompositorisch brillianten Materials erwartet hatte, der wurde
    eines besseren belehrt.
    Doch zuerst betraten Fates Warning die Bhne und heizten die
    Neue Welt schon mal gut auf. Sie spielten ihren interessanten
    Progressive-Rock, der live doppelt so gut kam wie in den
    Studioversionen. Insbesondere die vertrackten Rhythmen, die der
    Drummer perfekt rberbrachte, wuten zu begeistern. Auch die
    hohe Stimme Ray Alders kam ziemlich gut, und die beiden
    Gitarristen lieferten sich regelrechte Melodielinienduelle.
    Nach ihrem einstndigen Programm durften sie erst nach einer
    Zugabe die Bhne verlassen.
    Dann kamen sie. Und spielten. Der Opener tPull Me Underv ri
    gleich mit: Dream Theater.
    Was dann folgte, ist kaum mit Worten zu beschreiben: die
    unvergleichlichen Songs vom tImages And Wordsv-Album (auer dem
    ersten und letzten Song leider nur tTake The Timev) und
    grwtenteils die Songs des neuen Albums kamen exakt wie bei der
    Aufnahme. Alle Solos, rhythmischen Vertracktheiten, rasend
    schnellen Harmonielinien wurden spielerisch gemeistert. Doch
    nicht nur das. Der neue Keyborder Derek Sherinian (vorher u.a.
    bei Alice Cooper u. Kiss), der nur zwei Wochen Zeit vor der
    Tour hatte, um die Songs einzuben, brachte seine eigenen
    Passagen ein, ein neues Intro fr tThe Mirrorv wurde entworfen,
    ein neuer Jam ergab sich, in dem u.a. ein minutenlanges
    Gitarrensolo (so schnell, da man mit den Augen kaum folgen
    konnte) von John Petrucci sich mit verschiedenen Keyboard-
    Harmonien gwttlich zusammenfgte. Mike Portnoys Drum Solo in
    tCaught in a Webv zeigte alles, was man aus diesem riesigen
    Schlagzeug rausholen kann, keine Sekunde war es langweilig,
    einfach unglaublich! John Myung bearbeitete die Saiten seines
    (natrlich sechssaitigen) Basses ohne Gnade und in einer
    Geschwindigkeit, da einem Hwren und Sehen verging. Die Stimme
    von James Labrie erklang um einiges hrter als auf den Alben,
    war aber trotzdem kraftvoll und ausdrucksstark.
    Die Bhnenshow war auch berzeugend, das Publikum wurde auch
    miteinbezogen, im Hintergrund war riesig das Cover von tAwakev
    zu sehen, und vor allem die Lightshow, die speziell auf die
    Parts abgestimmt war, konnte vollends begeistern.
    Vom ersten Album spielten sie leider keinen Song, auch wenn sie
    am Anfang der Tour noch tThe Ones Who Helped To Set The Sunv in
    den USA im Programm hatten. Besonders mitreien konnten mich
    das unglaubliche Instrumental tErotomaniav und die Zugabe
    tMetropolisv, mit dem der Gig abgeschlossen wurde, das einfach
    eines der genialsten Stcke Musik darstellt, das jemals
    geschrieben und live gespielt wurde.
    Was soll man also noch sagen? Auch hier findet man Rock, hrter
    als auf den Alben aber ehrlicher als vieles, was man sonst so
    WerFs verpat hat, ist selbst schuld!

    So what? Peer.

    Macht's gut,

    ** Ties Goebel ** **
    **   ** 
    **       Freie Universitaet Berlin        **


    Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 13:09:11 +0200 (MET DST) From: (Ties Goebel) To: Subject: Rock Over Germany ???! Message-ID: <>

    Freak wrote: > Last/Least he told me that DT are going to come back here to some "Rock > over germany" festival and that he will me inform me about that, will > make me meet the band and will keep me informed about ACOS.

    Really "Rock Over Germany" ??? Some information about it: This festival takes place in 6 big stadiums (capacity like 60 000 and more each), and let me tell you who will be there: Elton John, Rod Stewart, Joe Cocker, Eros Ramazotti, Prince, Sheryl Crow... I can't believe it...

    >I was especially pleased to hear that they are talking with David Prater >to do this job. I really like the sound of Images & Words and mybe hu >suits best for ACOS as this song was written in about this period. I >hope Prater will do this production work! Oh, triggered drums again... ;)

    Macht's gut, Ties

    ******************************************** ** Ties Goebel ** ** ** ** ** Freie Universitaet Berlin ** ********************************************


    Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 12:23:10 -0500 (EST) From: zebrowski steven <> To: Subject: Warrant's new album Message-ID: <>


    I was just curious about the new Warrant album. If any of you 'Jammers have it, do you mind mailing me a review? I have DRFSR, and I liked that back when I was in my Fresh/Soph years of high school. Yeah, I'm that young! I've heard good things about it, like that it's got some changing time sigs and other prog elements. Naturally, my tastes are a lot heavier now than they were then, but I'm always on the lookout for something new.

    I can't believe the ACOS EP isn't coming out until August! I don't know if I can wait that long. There better be some new stuff on it, too. I already have 2 CD versions of Eve, and the studio version of To Live Forever. But, ACOS is one of my fave DT songs--as long as it's on there I'm sure I'll be happy. Also, let's all give Freak a big pat on the back for his appeal to the record company--Good Job!

    See Ya

    Steve Z


    Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 20:19:10 +0200 (MET DST) From: (Ties Goebel) To: Subject: Awake sells, Silent Man story, DT as openers Message-ID: <>

    Some interesting information from the German Metal Hammer magazine:

    Awake sells: USA: around 150,000 Japan: more than 100,000 (platin) Germany: 100 000

    The story behind "The Silent Man" (or just behind the video?) according to James LaBrie: An old man looks in the mirror where he sees himself as a young man, then in his mind his whole life is passing by (hmm.. bad translation, I think, hope you understand it...).

    There were talks with the managements of Van Halen and Queensryche to open for them (for the bands, not for the managements ;) ) on their US tours! But it seems this won't happen...

    BTW, isn't it really cool that DT's management (Jim Pitulski) does things like making phone calls to a DT fan in Munich or supporting the Ytsecon ?

    Macht's gut, 'jammers, Ties

    ******************************************** ** Ties Goebel ** ** ** ** ** Freie Universitaet Berlin ** ********************************************


    Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 13:57:45 -0500 From: Stephen O Boyd <> To: Subject: oops... i'm a dumbass Message-ID: <>

    Sorry about that replying-to-the-list-when-I-should-have-replied-to-the-person thing.

    All together now: "Stephen's a dumbass."

    ALL: "Stephen's a dumbass."

    Thanks. I knew you could do it. 8)



    Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 14:25:55 -0500 (EST) From: "L. Jason Hartman" <> To: Subject: DT on Howard Stern again.... Message-ID: <>

    I was listening again to Howard Stern this morning. The Mirror started playing. Howard said it was pretty cool and asked if it was Metallica. Someone (Stuttering John I think) yelled out Dream Theater. Then the keyboard part started and Howard said "oh, it just got lousy". Then people started saying they should lose the keyboard player. They said it sounded Egyptian or something...

    That is at least the 3rd time they have played the MIrror on his show.

    Anyone get a good copy (audio or video) of the covers gig yet? I've got a ton o' DT boots to trade if you do..

    -- ************************************************************************** * Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" * * * * You're fighting the weight of the world, * * and no one can save you this time. * * Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. * * * * "Take the Time" - Dream Theater * **************************************************************************


    Date: Wed, 29 Mar 95 20:28 BST-1 From: (Mark Tiplady) To: Subject: That question again! Message-ID: <>

    OK, I've held off for as long as I could but I can't stand it any longer so here goes!

    Are there any ytsejam T-shirts left and if there are, how do you go about getting hold of one if you live in Europe?

    Yes, I'm sorry, I know this question has been asked about a zillion times before and I hate to clutter up the list with trivia but I GOTTA KNOW!!

    Personal Post :- Matt, I'm not sure if my E-mail is getting through to you or not. Did you get the note about DoE. If you didn't, let me know.


    Mark Tiplady,

    Colchester UK, Birthplace of Humpty Dumpty and Judge Dredd.


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