YTSEJAM Digest 808
Today's Topics:
1) Re:30 seconds of DT?
by "Mark A. Parker" <parkerma@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu>
2) kevin
by A Humble Dream Theater Fanatic <polzin@glibm11.cen.uiuc.edu>
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 806
by mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 804
by William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
5) Re: The Mirror some more
by William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
6) AAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!
by dixie@evansville.net
7) IF in Eroto
by zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
8) to all JAPANESE jammers! (only)
by freak@cube.net (Alex Reinelt)
9) DT shirt order
by lark@cvfn.org (Jon Larkowski)
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 805
by lark@cvfn.org (Jon Larkowski)
11) Lost . . .
by TTubbiola@aol.com
12) Subconcious...
by LORDE ANDREW <DIXONAS@HIRAM.EDU>
13) demo's and bootlegs
by Wilco Barg <WBG@suppcent.ges.getronics.nl>
14) Kansas, non-DT.
by PRETTY VIV MACHINE <YYSD@grove.iup.edu>
15) Changing Seasons
by lists@flatearth.xs4all.nl (Ruud van de Kruisweg)
16) WWW client telnet site?
by lark@cvfn.org (Jon Larkowski)
17) * RE: YTSEJAM digest 806
by Aviad Hay <aviad@kids-mail.huji.ac.il>
18) Learning to Live Boots???
by wtdalton@whale.st.usm.edu (William T. Dalton)
19) Re: Changing Seasons
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
20) Re: Subconcious...
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
21) Re: YTSEJAM digest 805
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
22) Re: AAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
23) Re: Japaness Pay per view
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
24) Subconscious, yep, another UPDATE
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
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Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 12:01:46 -0500
From: "Mark A. Parker" <parkerma@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re:30 seconds of DT?
Message-ID: <199505031701.MAA00352@o231-18.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu>
I'd speed up the entire catalog to blipvert
proportions and let them slow it down from
the 45-sec compressed version when they get back home.
If they can travel the galaxy, certainly
slowing down a soundbyte shouldn't be a problem ;)
Dom'ny
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Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 12:59:45 -0500 (CDT)
From: A Humble Dream Theater Fanatic <polzin@glibm11.cen.uiuc.edu>
To: ytse jam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: kevin
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.90.950503125841.16184A-100000@glibm11.cen.uiuc.edu>
I was thinking this morning if might be a chance that Kevin would make a
guest appearance with DT and play SDV and one of his demos. Does anyone
know of anything of could find out? Just a thought.
Ed Polzin
WWW: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~polzin/
polzin@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu
polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu
polzin@par0060.urh.uiuc.edu
polzin@ripco.com
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Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 15:09:42 -0500
From: mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 806
Message-ID: <v01510100abcd8f65fc88@[199.232.46.229]>
> Brand-new subscriber here (oh looky, barely one day on and already
>posting -- BIG f***ing deal, right? :) ). Anyway, all this talk about John
>P., Kevin, James, and Mike -- and nary a word about the Myung one! Any fans
>out there? After years of worshipping at the temples of Lee (Geddy, that
>is) and Claypool, I guess you could say I've expanded my religious views.
>:) Of course, the fact that the ENTIRE band is musical as hell doesn't hurt
>(but I guess y'all already know that, or else you wouldn't be here...)
>
>Peace, love, and the pursuit of low frequencies,
Michael,
Welcome. I'm currently pursuing low frequencies on my new 5-string (better
to play DT with :).
A fellow bassist
Marc Respass
mer@sol.iii.net
http://www.iii.net/users/mer.html
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Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 16:20:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 804
Message-ID: <EjdyKOy00YUzInvXdE@andrew.cmu.edu>
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Organization: Aepithex (guitars)
mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass) writes:
> In response to my post about the rhythm in The Mirror, William T Bajzek wrote:
>
> >umm... calm down... its just 16th notes, the guitar's just playing 3
> >16ths then resting one... no superimposing of times or tempos
>
> um Will. You have the guitar part right, but what about the drums? Listen
> for the snare on the second beat of the guitar part. It's not there.
> Portnoy is playing in a different tempo (or the guitar is doing a
> complicated half note triplet rhythm).
more like he's playing at the same tempo in half time... instead of
going
. : . :
he goes
. : . :
guitar: xxx xxx xxx xxx
drums: . : . :
if the guitar were playing triplets there wouldn't be any rest....
if you want to know ------william bajzek------ and if you want to know
just what i see -http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu-- where we're going
look at yourself -----------/~wb2a/home------------ keep your distance
and dont ask me ---------guitars, aepithex--------- and dont follow me
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Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 16:31:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: The Mirror some more
Message-ID: <cjdyU5y00YUz0nvZ97@andrew.cmu.edu>
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Organization: Aepithex (guitars)
mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass) writes:
>
> I like it just fine and thanks Brandon. First, let me say that, although I
> may sometimes have that tone, I never mean for my posts to be the defintive
> answer and I'm always open to a correction. So now that I know that part's
> in 12/8 I sat here writing it out and listening over and over. Here's what
> I have now (can you see how I thought it was 3/4 over 4/4?)
oh, sorry, i thought you were talking about a different part... its
all one tempo though, regardless
if you want to know ------william bajzek------ and if you want to know
just what i see -http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu-- where we're going
look at yourself -----------/~wb2a/home------------ keep your distance
and dont ask me ---------guitars, aepithex--------- and dont follow me
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Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 15:29:33 -0500 (CDT)
From: dixie@evansville.net
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: AAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950503152325.18994A-100000@world.evansville.net>
News Flash:
A disgruntled Postal customer walked into the main Post Office in
Evansville, IN today and opened fire, killing thirty-three people.
Witnesses claim that the gunman, who is still at large, seemed to be
muttering about "subconscious", whatever that means.
Guess I know why its called snail mail. Jeez. Just blowin off steam...
(BTW- for those of you incapable of taking a joke, no, I didn't shoot up
a post office. Couldn't find my ski mask ;)
Adam
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Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 16:34:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: IF in Eroto
Message-ID: <199505032034.QAA15253@rpc07.gl.umbc.edu>
Hello, all.
I think this was posted a loooong time ago, but I'll say it again <if only to
start another argument!> I hear the "Callow and vain..." part of IF in the
infamous Erotomania. It's before the "Silent Man" part. Incedentally,
in between the "Silent Man" part and this "IF" part, I can distinctly hear the
progression to the chorus of Another Day.
"What is he, on crack?!?!?!?!?!" That's what they'll say...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<"...Thought disorder; ___ ___ ___ _ _ ___ ___ "Balls and chunk is >
<Dream control. Now | __||_ _|| __|| V || __| |_ | where it's at." >
<they read my mind on |__ | | | | __| \ / | __| / / --Mike Portnoy, LiT >
<the radio...But where|___| |_| |___| V |___| |___|"I think SpontanUity!">
<was the Garden of Eden?" szebro1@gl.umbc.edu --John Petrucci, X103>
<--John Petrucci, Voices Radio Show>
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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Date: Wed, 3 May 95 23:13:05 MET
From: freak@cube.net (Alex Reinelt)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: to all JAPANESE jammers! (only)
Message-ID: <m0s6ljG-0000rnC@cubnt5.cube.net>
Konichi wa,
dear japanese jammers, i am looking for somebody in the land of the
rising sun who could check for me if a special accessory for my MINI
DISC walkman is available.
It would be great if you could maybe just go in a store and ask or look
if some kind of carrying on the belt-case for my MD walkman MZ-E2 does
exist.
If you would be so kind, please mail me for further details. Important
for me as i cant get this part over sony germany, they dont even know
it.
thanks again, bye, Freak
( Alexander Reinelt from Munich/Germany - freakmarked since 1987
) freak@cube.net / freak@cubnet.de / Alex_Reinelt@2:2480/66
( fax:(++ 49 89) 689 18 71 voice:(++ 49 89) 68 33 40
) "Some secrets can't be sealed...." (Conception - Some Wounds)
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Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 16:26:22 -0600
From: lark@cvfn.org (Jon Larkowski)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT shirt order
Message-ID: <v01510101abcdb24b997a@[160.32.2.104]>
I wish to order a DT Ytsejam shirt. Here's the information you requested.
(1) XL
(2) one
(3) JON LARKOWSKI
1221 TERRILL ST
CHIPPEWA FALLS WI 54729-1635
(4) lark@cvfn.org
larkows3@nes.nersc.gov (If you have problems with previous email address.)
(5) $14.00
Thanks!
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Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 16:43:01 -0600 From: lark@cvfn.org (Jon Larkowski) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 805 Message-ID: <v01510103abcdb708b66e@[160.32.2.105]>
> I just recieved a great DT boot from their current tour. It was >recorded in Houston, Tx at the Tower Theatre on 11/14/94. I'm sure a lot >of you have already got a copy of this, but I'm new to this boot thing, >and if anyone has any boots they are willing to trade for a copy of this, >e-mail me with a list of your boots. Thanks.
I haven't heard of this! Where did you get it? What's its title? How must does it cost? Is it two discs? What is the sound quality? How's DT's performance that night? Do you have the boot on tape or disc? Do I ask too many questions? :)
Thanks!
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Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 13:44:11 -0400 From: TTubbiola@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Lost . . . Message-ID: <950503134410_105416551@aol.com>
Has anyone seen my Awake CD? I seem to have misplaced the disc although I still have the case.
Last seen: My friend's car at the beginning of a very drunken evening.
Please help.
Reward!!! Reward!!! Reward!!! Reward!!! Reward!!! Reward!!!
--Tom--
"The spider in the window" |<Dream Theater: Voices> "The angel in the pool" | "The old man takes the poison" | Tom Tubbiola "Now the widow makes the rules"| TTubbiola@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 14:28:45 -0400 (EDT) From: LORDE ANDREW <DIXONAS@HIRAM.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Subconcious... Message-ID: <950503142845.21603ac2@HIRAM.EDU>
Wow... That's what went thgough my mind when I heard the disc. I finally got my copy today in the mail, and ran back to the dorm to listen to it (ditching my girlfriend in the process - but she understands). Mike, you have outdone yourself. This is so GREAT!!!! I personally love the "Mystery Track" - wht the hell is that, and where did you get it from?? As to the the rest of it - I love 'em all, but I have one comment: It's about "Winter". I am a vocalist myself, and listening to this, I would be willing to stake a large part of college tuition on the fact that James is not singing in falsetto the whole song, as some have said. Sure, he does it almost exclusively in head voice, but there is a line or two that sounds like he's hitting it in chest voice... just my opinion, mind you. And I only listened to it one time so far. So one last round of applause to Mike, and a pat on the back over the internet! Thanks for making this worthwhile, and keep us updated on future projects... Au Revoir, Andy
---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Da sprach der Scheich zum Emir, zahl` Du dann gehn` wir." "Da sprach der Emir zum Scheich, zahl` Du solang` ich seich!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andy Dixon dixonas@hiram.edu POBox 654 Hiram, OH 44234 Phone: (216)569-5027
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Date: Wed, 03 May 1995 11:08:06 +0200 From: Wilco Barg <WBG@suppcent.ges.getronics.nl> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: demo's and bootlegs Message-ID: <sfa76524.011@suppcent.ges.getronics.nl>
I read a lot about demo's and bootlegs on the digest. For example Steve Borzilleri wrote some things about ACOS. Can anyone help me to get copies of this stuff. I have some stuff over other bands in return.
Hopefully someone is willing to help me. It's, somehow, hard to find this sort of things on this side of the Atlantic. Here only the official releases are available, including Majesty and another old instrumental demo released on CD.
Greetings, Wilco Barg WBG@GSS101.GES.GETRONICS.NL
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I know it's easy to walk away and leave it all behind (Surrounded) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Wed, 03 May 1995 18:12:38 -0500 (EST) From: PRETTY VIV MACHINE <YYSD@grove.iup.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Kansas, non-DT. Message-ID: <01HQ2QF4ADVS91W5HN@grove.iup.edu>
based on the recommendations of this list, i purchased Kansas: Leftoverture today. i'm not very familiar with Kansas, so i've got a couple of questions, since the liner was not particularly informative. what is the line-up on the album and who wrote which songs? the things are just bugging me and i thought i'd ask you guys. thanks a lot. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Pretty Viv Machine This VivMail has been brought programme, vox, bassoon, to you by VivNet. Ned's Atomic Weed Theater Indiana Univ. of PA yysd@oak.grove.iup.edu
"Expressionism focused on faster checkout for those with less than ten items." --Dr. M. McBride.
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Date: Wed, 03 May 1995 18:48:00 +0100 From: lists@flatearth.xs4all.nl (Ruud van de Kruisweg) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Changing Seasons Message-ID: <050395184858Rnf0.79b6@flatearth.xs4all.nl>
Wilco Barg <WBG@suppcent.ges.getronics.nl> wrote:
>On the 8th of July DT will do an open air headline performance in Weert, >The Netherlands, during Bospop. It will be the second time this year DT >visiting The Netherlands. During the Awake tour, in Februari, they played >two nights in Utrecht. Twice the place was sold out.
It will be in fact the third time this year that they'll visit Holland. You have forgotten about the extra concert in Nijmegen a couple of weeks after the Utrecht gigs. That one was also sold out in less than one day.
They're really popular around these parts. It's a bit of a shame for the old fans, because that means they can't play in small venues like Vredenburg anymore but have to move on to concert halls like Ahoy. I'd rather go small clubs where I can stand right in front of the stage like in Vredenburg than get a lousy seat for Ahoy close to the roof of the hall where the band has shrunk down to the size of ants.
Ruud.
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Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 19:09:56 -0600 From: lark@cvfn.org (Jon Larkowski) To: Ytsejam Digest <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: WWW client telnet site? Message-ID: <v01510100abcdd961316d@[160.32.2.105]>
Sorry to bug everybody here. But a while ago someone mentioned here there was a site that anyone could telnet to that had a WWW browser on it. Does anybody know the address of this place?
BTW, I like DT. ( <-- DT content! )
THANKS!
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Date: Thu, 4 May 95 6:56 +0300 From: Aviad Hay <aviad@kids-mail.huji.ac.il> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: * RE: YTSEJAM digest 806 Message-ID: <m0s6s8L-0000HjC@crash.cts.com>
>Yo, gang! > > Brand-new subscriber here (oh looky, barely one day on and already >posting -- BIG f***ing deal, right? :) ). Anyway, all this talk about John >P., Kevin, James, and Mike -- and nary a word about the Myung one! Any fans >out there? After years of worshipping at the temples of Lee (Geddy, that >is) and Claypool, I guess you could say I've expanded my religious views. >:) Of course, the fact that the ENTIRE band is musical as hell doesn't hurt >(but I guess y'all already know that, or else you wouldn't be here...)
Mike boy. The reason not a lot is said about Myung is because nobody here will dare desecrating his highness name.
No, seriously: we're talking here of a bass god which personally had influence me in a great deal - he virtually mastered every technique the bass offers from tapping (wild part on PMU,I&W) to his main FingerStyle technique, and to harmonics (overtones), (too bad he left the slapping out the door - although I'm sure he's better then me, you and ClayPool together). His perseption on the bass may be traditional but he still breaks the boundaries on every record. We can go a whole day counting the amazing lines and licks he pulls - he got a trick/gag/idea of his own on every DT song. I actually like to find the more hidden stuff - like in Take The Time (this song deserves a full name and not just intials) before Labrie sais "I won't waste another breath" there is a couple of seconds where John just go completely wild with a fantastic Pentatonic scale which is hidden within a wall of sound, although it rules the feel of that short part.
John is a king no doubt, and that's the way bass players should be... (see Geddy Lee for instance).
> >Peace, love, and the pursuit of low frequencies, I'll vote for that on the next election...
Aviad Hay.
****************************************************** * " The B-Quad 4 rules!!!! " - A.H & Brian Bromberg. * ******************************************************
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Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 02:05:01 -0500 (CDT) From: wtdalton@whale.st.usm.edu (William T. Dalton) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Learning to Live Boots??? Message-ID: <9505040705.AA78854@whale.st.usm.edu>
I am looking for a boot with a very good live Learning to Live on it
can anyone help me out?
Tadd
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Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 03:20:20 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Changing Seasons Message-ID: <199505041020.DAA01911@bud.indirect.com>
> They're really popular around these parts. It's a bit of a shame for the > old fans, because that means they can't play in small venues like > Vredenburg anymore but have to move on to concert halls like Ahoy. I'd > rather go small clubs where I can stand right in front of the stage like > in Vredenburg than get a lousy seat for Ahoy close to the roof of the > hall where the band has shrunk down to the size of ants.
Our very own Dream Theater plays the Ahoy Sportpaleis? I'm so impressed! Even Rush plays there!! :)
Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com
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Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 03:23:09 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Subconcious... Message-ID: <199505041023.DAA02098@bud.indirect.com>
> girlfriend in the process - but she understands). Mike, you have outdone > yourself. This is so GREAT!!!! I personally love the "Mystery Track" - wht > the hell is that, and where did you get it from?? As to the the rest of it - > I love 'em all, but I have one comment:
Thanks for the kind words! The mystery track is just that, a mystery. The first person who can tell me EXACTLY where it's from, gets a complimentary copy of Cygnus when it's released. (I love throwing cool, off-subject contests and fun stuff in! Makes getting the CD that much more fun!) One Jammer is real close already, but not quite!
DAMN I'm glad people are liking this. I had to listen to it so many times in the making of it that I got tired of it, and began to fear that others would not find it as appealing as I originally thought. I'm sure glad _that_ fear is off my chest! :)
Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com
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Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 03:23:56 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 805 Message-ID: <199505041023.DAA02161@bud.indirect.com>
> > I just recieved a great DT boot from their current tour. It was > >recorded in Houston, Tx at the Tower Theatre on 11/14/94. I'm sure a lot > >of you have already got a copy of this, but I'm new to this boot thing, > >and if anyone has any boots they are willing to trade for a copy of this, > >e-mail me with a list of your boots. Thanks. > > I haven't heard of this! Where did you get it? What's its title? How > must does it cost? Is it two discs? What is the sound quality? How's > DT's performance that night? Do you have the boot on tape or disc? Do I > ask too many questions? :)
Dunno if it's released or not, but it's likely from our very own Brian Cox's DAT recording! And what a fine recording it was!
Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com
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Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 03:26:22 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: AAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!! Message-ID: <199505041026.DAA02295@bud.indirect.com>
> A disgruntled Postal customer walked into the main Post Office in > Evansville, IN today and opened fire, killing thirty-three people. > Witnesses claim that the gunman, who is still at large, seemed to be > muttering about "subconscious", whatever that means. > Guess I know why its called snail mail. Jeez. Just blowin off steam...
Grin.
Those of you who have waited, it will finally be worthwhile, a friend and I just got done working 14 straight hours (we both had a concurrent day off, and for once, I had enough supplies and stamps) and we CAUGHT UP to current Subconscious orders! That;s right, if your CD number is 335 or lower, it's now speeding its way to you courtesy of our very own Postal Service. :)
I feel so relieved now, I'm gonna go soak in the pool. :)
Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com
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Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 03:28:27 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Japaness Pay per view Message-ID: <199505041028.DAA02357@bud.indirect.com>
> Can someone tell me exactly what is on this video??? > on another note, has anyone heard from the dreg of society-Jeremy Haynes? > he lost his account, changed his phone number to an unlisted number, > ans won't respond to his compuserve account. > DO NOT EVER TRADE WITH JEREMY HAYNES
I pity the poor slug, and I'm a kindred spirit with the people he's ripped off. I was one of the last to actually *get* something from him, and it was two months late. I'm lucky to have received it at all!
...how can you fall THAT FAR behind?
Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com
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Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 03:34:18 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: garion@indirect.com Subject: Subconscious, yep, another UPDATE Message-ID: <199505041034.DAA02541@bud.indirect.com>
SUBCONSCIOUS CD Update!!
Current update: 5/4/95
Due to a cancellation, there are some copies still available! Go ahead and send orders in... CHECK THE NEW ADDRESS LISTED BELOW. If you wish, email me at garion@indirect.com to make sure I have a copy to save for you.
Keep an eye on the Ytsejam as people are posting reviews of Subconscious right and left. So far, nobody wants to kill me. For this I'm relieved. :)
THE BLANKS ARE HERE! THE SHIPMENTS ARE HAPPENING! :) I'm currently _caught up_ with shipments, which is about 335 at current. I am trying to stay with less than a week lagtime with new orders. I am also finally sending out all the freebies! (to all five of you who did me a favor of some sort).
By the way, THANKS to all of you who have sent "Dream Theater Bits" and extra postage, and other gifts of goodwill, I really am enjoying them! The DT-related stuff (newspaper clippings, computer art, concert ad copies, etc) are a real treat to check out. All my friends are enjoying it! I really would like to thank you.
1. Orders received 2. A quick review: what the hell IS Subconscious, and how can I get it? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
1. Orders received
Here is a brief list of the orders that I have received, paid, and the CD numbers you will all be getting... if you are on this list, I have your order IN MY HAND and you are DONE, FINITO... all you need to do is kick back, relax, toss back a Kypler's, and wait for my CDs to come in the mail to me, and subsequently, to you. :) Chances are you have it already. I _am_ keeping a copy of this list, in case future authenticity issues arise, you can be assured of the full _value_ of your Subconscious CD. Given the number of DT albums sold total, there is one Subconscious CD for every 11,700 Dream Theater fans. Not a bad ratio eh!! Every copy is numbered and initialed in gold to make it very hard to counterfeit.
Note: the Japan order is in the mail from Kaoru to me and I am waiting for it. I will send out ALL of the Nihon-jin-Ytsejammer CDs at the same time. :)
000 Original press master copy (CD-R Gold) - Ed Polzin 001 Glass master disc 002 Final press master #1 003 Mike Bahr :) 004 Mike Portnoy 005 Mike Portnoy 006 Kevin Moore 007 Michael Burstin 008 Brian Cox 009 Chris King 010 Jenn Albert 011 Alfredo Cappello 012 Andreas Schaefer 013 Kaoru Kobayashi (reserved) 014 Kaoru Kobayashi (reserved) 015 Kaoru Kobayashi (reserved) 016 Kaoru Kobayashi (reserved) 017 Kaoru Kobayashi (reserved) 018 Kaoru Kobayashi (reserved) 019 Kaoru Kobayashi (reserved) 020 Kaoru Kobayashi (reserved) 021 Timo Haanpaa 022 Timo Haanpaa 023 Timo Haanpaa 024 Timo Haanpaa 025 Timo Haanpaa 026 Timothy Byrd 027 Timothy Byrd 028 Timothy Byrd 029 Steve Chew 030 Mark Stahl 031 Cheryle West 032 Paul Poehler 033 Douglas Slauson 034 Stephan Dobay 035 Stephan Dobay 036 Jason Macdonald 037 Jeff Chew 038 Jeff Chew 039 Jeff Chew 040 Bernd Basmer 041 Jeff Stewart 042 Brian Anderson 043 Brian Anderson 044 Michael Van Opstall 045 Greg Bunker 046 Albert Balkiewicz 047 Albert Balkiewicz 048 William Buckley 049 William Buckley 050 Jamie Burks 051 Joel Gregie 052 Uffe Moller 053 Uffe Moller 054 Andy Dixon 055 Anna Davidson 056 Randy Collins 057 Brian Vivier 058 Brian Vivier 059 Bill Nottingham 060 Alfredo Cappello 061 Alfredo Cappello 062 Andreas Schaefer 063 Timo Haanpaa 064 Eric Gauthier 065 Eric Gauthier 066 Michael Backof 067 Tim Altman 068 Mathew Yee 069 Christopher White 070 Alex Fraser 071 Jason Breitweg 072 George Sorsby 073 Brian Polka 074 Kristian Reyes 075 Dave Fausel 076 John Kotzian 077 Matthew Berger 078 Paul Humm 079 Brent Phillips 080 Bob Holder 081 James Runde 082 Krysten DeBroka 083 R. Christopher Hailey 084 Siegfried Hanisch 085 Jason Birzer 086 Carmen Pezzone 087 Carmen Pezzone 088 David Bell 089 Dan Tshin 090 Stephane Auzilleau 091 Stephane Auzilleau 092 Stephane Auzilleau 093 Russell Brooks 094 Alexander Reinelt 095 Alexander Reinelt 096 Ken Atwell 097 Kevin Werner 098 Kevin Werner 099 Huub J. P. de Lijser 100 Robert Dalton 101 David Rolla 102 Jonathan Larkowski 103 Nathan Bradley 104 Nathan Bradley 105 Nathan Bradley 106 Scott Spehar 107 Adam Ensinger 108 Todd Hartmann 109 Todd Hartmann 110 Paul Goracke 111 Brian Ross 112 Rob Schuldt 113 Randy Haskin 114 Chuck Hanley 115 Brandon Elhai 116 Jonah Lin 117 Eric Anderson 118 Joseph Jurczyk 119 Kevin Howard 120 Henrik Gustafsson 121 Lars Karlsson 122 Derek Reubish 123 Anthony Kozar 124 Brandon Vaughn 125 Bracken Odiorne 126 Mark Tedhams 127 Jeff Penka 128 Jeff Penka 129 Jeff Penka 130 Rick Atkinson 131 Paul Holloway 132 Antti Nyrhinen 133 Antti Nyrhinen 134 Olov Ringman 135 Olov Ringman 136 Olov Ringman 137 Olov Ringman 138 Olov Ringman 139 Olov Ringman 140 Jarrod Ramsey Lewis 141 Mike Johander 142 Mike Johander 143 Bafu Vai 144 Bafu Vai 145 Michael Hutchinson 146 Matt Leger 147 Bill Barry 148 Chris Fyhr 149 Chris Fyhr 150 Siegfried Hanisch 151 Siegfried Hanisch 152 Tilman Kuendgen 153 Andrew Feyder 154 Eric Crowder 155 Scott McCammon 156 Kees Jan Oltmans 157 Paul Fini 158 Jeff Seifert 159 Andreas Kasper 160 Jonas Wallden 161 Jonas Wallden 162 Jonas Wallden 163 Scott Johnson 164 Chris Sandridge 165 Christina Sunarto 166 Gregory Cole 167 Rob Devereux 168 David Hafke 169 David Sloan 170 Joe Kruger 171 Adam Forsyth 172 Adam Forsyth 173 Adam Forsyth 174 Kevin Laferriere 175 Carmen Pezzone 176 David Boland 177 David Boland 178 Ties Gobel 179 Hairball 180 Rob Castilone 181 Rich Toscano 182 Simon Asselin 183 Simon Asselin 184 Brian Fieg 185 Younis Hilal 186 Ryan Skadberg 187 Ryan Skadberg 188 Rob Schenk 189 E. Bayyestuen 190 E. Bayyestuen 191 Darren Freed 192 Mats Rydstrom 193 Stacie Rosenzweig 194 Asif Khan 195 Chris Caminiti 196 Evelyn Lauer 197 Evelyn Lauer 198 Evelyn Lauer 199 Jennifer Sharward 200 Justin Poulter 201 Deb Hanson 202 Aaron Jacobs 203 Robert MacAusland 204 R.H.G. Tijhuis 205 Michael Ibach 206 Erik Ahlberg 207 Peter Memishian 208 Ron Samartino 209 Scott Hansen 210 Greg Sands 211 Greg Sands 212 Jim Golding 213 Evelyn Lauer 214 Elliott Kim 215 Damian O'Hara 216 Jaison John 217 Jaison John 218 Lars Hellsten 219 Jason Skewes 220 Ryan Benedict 221 Cem Unsal 222 Yohan Moore 223 Frode Johnson 224 Frode Johnson 225 Ken Maupin 226 Kevin Czarnecki 227 Tim Wyse 228 Thomas Nerwinski 229 Thomas Nerwinski 230 Steve Van Hooser 231 Ed Polzin 232 Daniel Robinson 233 Michael Harper 234 Ken Bibb 235 George Bast 236 Dave Barlow 237 Jan-Michael Souter 238 Paul LaFleche 239 Meghan Middleton 240 Petri Mannikko 241 Dobronte Gabor 242 Dobronte Gabor 243 Koby Fuessler 244 Andreas Kasper 245 Brian Hengeveld 246 Jeff Windle 247 Mark Ruenes 248 Jon King 249 Tim Villa 250 Matthew Erwich 251 Sameer Ajmera 252 Mark Whitaker 253 Jaime Kimpton 254 Andrew Garinger 255 JD Wolters 256 JD Wolters 257 Jeremy Curvens 258 Neil Evans 259 Hank Marquardt 260 Jeff Windle 261 Mike Rapazzo 262 Damion Kumara 263 Alan Mallery 264 Gunter Obiltsching 265 Doug Yoder 266 Doug Yoder 267 Doug Yoder 268 Doug Yoder 269 Doug Yoder 270 Eli Cooper 271 Michael Kizer 272 James Daugherty 273 John Hough 274 John Hough 275 Doug Merrell 276 Chris Freel 277 Dino Zisis 278 Adam Coolong 279 David Peterson 280 Mark Metzger 281 Mark Jager 282 Greg Legowski 283 John Nguyen 284 David Kuznick 285 Greg Severine 286 Matthew Eckberg 287 George Fan 288 Jim Wiesen 289 Terry Weaver 290 Markus Fagervik 291 Warren Williams 292 Sean Gill 293 Steffen Barabasch 294 Steffen Barabasch 295 James Utz 296 James Utz 297 David Russum 298 Zach Gemmill 299 Zach Gemmill 300 Brandon Beach 301 Zach Gemmill 302 Zach Gemmill 303 John Mastin 304 Jim Beavens 305 Alexis Ramos 306 Tim Shough 307 Matt McIntosh 308 Ramin Miraftabi 309 Scott Jensen 310 Craig Erskine 311 Matthias Murra 312 Mark Parker 313 Evelyn Lauer 314 Jason Hartman 315 John Montag 316 John Mastin 317 John Mastin 318 John Mastin 319 Bill Engels 320 Jeremy Eckberg 321 Stefan Rau 322 Chris Mahaffey 323 Leonard Berkoski 324 Yuji Miyazaki 325 Matthias Murra 326 Matthias Murra 327 Greg Hamra 328 Greg Hamra 329 Greg Hamra 330 Greg Hamra 331 Todd Klindt 332 Keith Aspinal 333 William Bajzek (666) 334 William Bajzek (666) 335 G. Picklesimer 336 Jason Sloan 337 Mike Portnoy 338 Mike Portnoy 339 Mike Portnoy 350 Keith Aspinal 400 David Fox 401 Kaoru Kobayashi (reserved) 402 Kaoru Kobayashi (reserved) 403 Kaoru Kobayashi (reserved) 404 Kaoru Kobayashi (reserved) 405 Kaoru Kobayashi (reserved) 406 Kaoru Kobayashi (reserved) 407 Kaoru Kobayashi (reserved) 408 Kaoru Kobayashi (reserved) 409 Kaoru Kobayashi (reserved) 410 Kaoru Kobayashi (reserved) 411 Kaoru Kobayashi (reserved) 412 Kaoru Kobayashi (reserved) 413 Keith Aspinal 420 John Mastin 432 Keith Aspinal 444 Jeremy Van Halen 456 Taz 499 Edward Ju (999) 500 Steve McMaster
If I messed up, TELL ME! I've proven to be far from perfect with these orders...
Also, I just bought a new desk to keep all this stuff in order with, so a few envelopes might have slipped in between the cracks. If you sent your order a decent long time ago and it hasn't shown up, tell me. I'll either be able to solve the puzzle or I'll join you in befuddlement. :)
2. What the hell IS Subconscious, and how can I get it?!?
Subconscious is a CD, a project I undertook simply because I thought maybe it should be done. It's totally privately financed, and I think with the number of reservations that have been made, I will come out of it with my head above water, for which I owe the trustworthy members of Ytsejam a bow of gratitude. :)
As pertains to legality... I admit I'm skating the line here. I hope (and so far) DT will be overlooking it. I'm only making enough to cover cost and pay myself roughly minimum wage. Since certain "permanent" costs (hard drive, etc) were covered the first time around, any other CDs I offer will be slightly less expensive. Basically, I'm not making a killing doing this, and it's taking an awful lot of time to get done, so I hope any of you who don't think too highly of me, will find it in your hearts to give me the benefit of the doubt this time. Friends? :) . I sincerely thank all of you Jammers who have had nothing but kind words for my efforts. And yes, the members of Dream Theater are all going to receive complimentary copies. Let nobody say I'm a tightwad. :)
What happened was, I felt it was time to release some of Dream Theater's rarer songs on CD, and thus I sought good copies from everywhere, including some that came from sources connected directly to the band! Thus, I think I can safely say that these are the best copies you can find outside of those in Portnoy's vault at home. (God, I'd love to peruse HIS tape collection... we might find DT covering "Blazing Saddles" or something)
I bought a CD burner and rented equipment from a CD pressing plant nearby, so I could produce the discs. They will have printing on them and a liner cover. I had to order blanks and jewelcases in lots of 500 or more, though, and thus the risk was made: I emptied my bank account and placed the order. Fortunately, it seems I will make up the difference with CD sales.
The blanks made it and I'm underway filling the orders. The price is $25.00 US per disc. It was originally going to be $27.50, but the CD place had a good price on blanks. Its true, as one Jammer pointed out, that I could have kept the higher price and said nothing about the blanks being cheaper than before... and nobody would have known. I did it in hopes of furthering the fans-for-fans attitude that has (thankfully) already spread throughout the net, and to make sure this project is seen as distinct from those of the high-and-mighty quality-none big boot CD pressers.
The CD pressing plant I got all my materials from previewed my current master, and decided it just wouldn't do. Without charging me a penny more for another glass master, they agreed to take on the job of fully digitally remastering the disc! They gave me a great rate on the studio time too.
So now it's done! The disc has been totally redone in Dolby Digital Surround Sound, compatible with any CD player but MUCH MUCH better than before, and compatible with Pro-Logic systems for full instrument separation on most tracks. The remastering involved a thorough noise cleanup and proper re-phasing of the instruments for center/left/right/surround.
Things have, thankfully, been cleaned up as best they could be in the process, and I guess based on the early commentary on the CD by people on the Jam who have already received theirs, it seems that the quality is satisfying to the Dream Theater Fanatic. :)
Here's the still-final tracklist:
1. Eve (live w/samples) (instrumental) 2. A Change of Season (live, JL on vocals) 3. O Holy Night (CD on vocals) 4. Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight (CD on vocals) 5. Don't Look Past Me (Jon Hendricks on vocals) 6. Wanted Dead or Alive (Rich Kern on the so-called vocals) 7. To Live Forever (acoustic version) (JL on vocals) 8. The Gorilla Session (Petrucci) 9. Mission: Impossible (Instrumental) 10. The Back Pain Jam (RPM Warehouse) (Instrumental) 11. Awake Heavy Jam (Instrumental) 12. Experimental (Petrucci) 13. Tears (JL on vocals) 14. Winter (JL on vocals)
In some cases, the rawness of the original recording will be evident, but at least you know you're hearing it the best way it can possibly be reproduced. Subconscious is _the_ DT event of early 1995! :) Or at least, it will be until DT's EP comes out... and I'll gladly yield the title if it does. I love their music.
Here's how to order: (or how to pay for your reserved discs)
1. Please use a money order. It's simply the best way, and they cost twenty to forty cents. Make it out to me for $25.00 per disc that you want (limit 5 to a person) and I am paying the shipping cost. Each CD will be mailed in a padded mailer so it won't get damaged. Please make out the money order to me, Michael Bahr, not to Feel The Rush or anything like that, since this is really just my own personal endeavor.
I accepted checks for the Rush Video Montage, but a few bounced, and I was left holding the bag. I've put too much money into this, and can't afford to be stuck with bad checks, even though I trust 99% of you Ytsejam members. Plus, best of all, a money order can be traced by you, traced by me, and you know for a _fact_ that you will either get a CD, a refund, or I will get thrown in the slammer! :)
2. International customers, I know international money orders are expensive. If there is another way you wish to pay (wire, transfer, or other) let me know and if I can do it, we'll do it. So far just sending cash has been 100% successful, so I guess there's no real harm in it. If you choose to send cash, send it in a thick envelope so it is less risky. For orders of more than one disc, it is economical and safe to use a traveler's cheque.
3. Please allow 2-3 weeks for delivery. By now, you know why. :)
4. I finagled myself a bigger mailbox at my apartment complex, so in order to keep the orders moving fast, send it to me at the new address. It is:
Michael Bahr 3175 N. Price Rd. #1066 Chandler, AZ 85224
That's my real address, not a PO Box... so don't worry, I'm not planning on fleeing the country any time soon.
If you happen to live in the Phoenix area feel free to call me at 602-777-0501. Besides all the CD stuff, I'm always up for lunch 'n' trading with local Jammers. I can't guarantee I'll be home very often to answer (always out buying supplies, or at work, or camping at the post office... grin) but if I'm there, we'll chat.
Actually, a few of you have called me long distance on this line from wherever you live. It's a real treat to talk with you, but just be careful of your phone bill, I do not want to cost anybody a lot of money. If you do call, try between 11am and 9pm Pacific time, since that gives you the best chance to catch me at home. I look forward to talking with any of you who care to call. I hope you don't mind my bastardized Arizona-Canadian-Southwestern-Pacific-New Yorker accent. (the product of mixed accents being prominent in my upbringing...) So far people get a real kick out of it. :)
5. Send in your order: . Your NAME . The ADDRESS for me to SEND your CD(s) to . The NUMBER of CDs you're asking for . The money order, made out for $25, $50, $75, whatever . your EMAIL address, in case I need to contact you (emerg.)
. (OPTIONAL) your home phone.
I won't require home phone because I want you to all feel safe that I am not selling mailing lists. :) If you _do_ include it, I will use it in case of emergency (maybe the mailman spills coffee on your order and I can't read your address or something).
3. Original press masters...
The gold disc is sold. The glass master, I didn't get to keep. That was sort of a sore point for me, since I paid for it, but the plant says they just re-use them anyway. Ah well.
4. Epilogue
I am at garion@indirect.com and will remain there until the end of time, so please mail me if you are confused, need information, are angry, sad, lonely, maybe even a little whimsical, and need to get in touch with me. Thank you ALL for showing such solidarity that a 21-year-old college student emptied his bank account to order tons of plastic! :) You are truly, one and all, ladies and gentlemen, the best fans Dream Theater could hope for.
Take care of yourselves, everybody...
Rent the Ranma videos! They're cool! Look in the Japanese animation section.
-Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com, humble DT discog editor, anime' collector, videogame player, CD presser, bass player, guitar player, backup vocalist, beer drinker, laserdisc collector, and 4th generation toreador vampire.
"Toki wa naze? Kono mama jikan o tometekurenai. Katanarabe waratta ano hi sae moo tooi..."
"Uno mas cerveza, por favor."
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