YTSEJAM digest 810

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Date: Thu May 04 1995 - 18:11:44 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 810

    Today's Topics:

      1) I am subconscious-ified
     by "R. Hailey" <pass@alfred.u.washington.edu>
      2) The Mirror GUITAR rhythm
     by stern.35@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Stern)
      3) The Uneducated
     by Lazarus - aka Simon Smith <sjs@st-andrews.ac.uk>
      4) light years
     by "Brian V. Cox" <bvc8995@tam2000.tamu.edu>
      5) Re: Recording Tidbits
     by "Dan Tshin" <donews!danman>
      6) Singers
     by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu>
      7) Subscribe YTSEJAM
     by Tom Swoboda <75024.2237@compuserve.com>
      8) DT Tape
     by Kevin R Laferriere <laferrie@bashful.usmcs.maine.edu>
      9) Tesla Update?
     by Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
     10) YTSEJAM digest 805
     by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
     11) Corrections! Correction!
     by Aviad Hay <aviad@kids-mail.huji.ac.il>
     12) Re: voice as instrument
     by "Mark A. Parker" <parkerma@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu>
     13) Re:What is Progressive Music
     by "Mark A. Parker" <parkerma@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu>
     14) Deciphering / Reviews
     by Steve Borzilleri <silenzio@elwha.evergreen.edu>
     15) Re: The Mirror --> Learning to Live
     by Jim Beavens <beavenj@ECE.ORST.EDU>
     16) Mike Portnoy Interview (LONG!!!)
     by AirDance@aol.com

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    Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 19:37:29 -0700 (PDT)
    From: "R. Hailey" <pass@alfred.u.washington.edu>
    To: digest <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: I am subconscious-ified
    Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91i.950504182100.50615A-100000@homer21.u.washington.edu>

     

    a public thanks for Mike

    and now the obligatory comments

    first of all charlie dominici
    I have to say that I am actually beginning to
    really like his voice
    I am very impressed by his job on
    carry that weight
    and couldn't believe it was he who was singing
    for the first few listens at least
    actually the entire song is really super
    ..if the beatles had written this in the eighties
       do you think this is how they woulda done it? =)

    to whomever it was that complained about
    james sounding like a girl on this to live forever version
    I have to say yes
    his voice does seem to have a certain feminine timbre in that song
    but I would say "woman" =)

    his voice in that and in winter
    to my ears
    do not sound very different however
    so my guess would be that tlf is at normal speed
    also kevin sounds normal as someone mentioned
     
    speaking of voices
    and vibratos as some were several days ago
    that sped-up voice on wanted dead or alive
    sure has a nice vibrato no? hehe
    and john's squealies are sweetness incarnate

    in fact this cd is a really good look
    at some spots
    into the personal band members
    listening to the gorilla sessions just sort brings to light
    o what a marvelous machine petrucci is!
    he goes all over the board whilst noodling
    and I don't think I heard a single note that was really off
    and on o holy night mike's just doing his stuff
    sweet

    I don't know why but
    don't look past me
    reminds me a bit of
    "earth" by smile
    (queen fans might know to what I am referring)
    quite pleasant
    yes made me smile

    I think that's enough for now

    chris

    it's hard to continue onward l r.christopher hailey
    when forever comes down + pass@u.washington.edu
    it comes down so heavy l egostatic@aol.com
    too final to forget + __ _.. _. _ .. .
    you've got to believe
    there's something more echolyn "never the same"

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    Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 00:07:01 -0500
    From: stern.35@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Stern)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: The Mirror GUITAR rhythm
    Message-ID: <199505050403.AAA28823@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu>

    Hello everyone,

    Myself and Steve (the light years guy) have been in an argumemnt about this
    ever since Awake came out. I'm asking for as many opinions as I can on
    this. Most of you seem to agree that Portnoy changes the tempo as Petrucci
    plays on. Now....does that mean that if you could turn off all of the
    other instruments and could only hear the guitar, that the triplets would
    not change pace or tempo at all? What does everyone think? Maybe my mind
    is playing tricks on me....

    --Jeff (that guy)

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    "open to all parties, but influenced by none"
                                      
                                      -Isaiah Thomas (no, not the basketball guy)
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    Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 03:02:15 +0100 (BST)
    From: Lazarus - aka Simon Smith <sjs@st-andrews.ac.uk>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: The Uneducated
    Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950505025428.14332A-100000@pasta>

    Hi people,

    Just a quick note about an acquaintance (he doesn't deserve the word
    friend, yet) who came out with a classic quote the other day. I was
    sitting around the table with a few friends and a few beers in my I&W
    t-shirt when this guy wanders up and says, "Are Dream Theater some sort
    of american band or something 'cos they can't spell theatre, can they?"
    Admittedly it was the student's union and he guy is a bit of a pratt, but
    hey... Only some of us British know the REAL spelling of Theater.

    Just thought I'd remind you all that we still have some work to do before
    the entire world is educated in the ways of DT. Back to work, everybody...

    He SHALL be taught, oh yes, he SHALL be taught....

    =:}

    Lazarus

    ______________________________________
    \ \_______ Lazarus - <sjs@st-and.ac.uk>
     \ How come you don't understand me? _____________
      \__________ And how come I don't understand you? \__
                 \_________ Thirty years says we're in this together \_____
                           \_____________________ So open your eyes.... \
    Keys, backing vox \______________ DT - Scarred \
    & crap jokes for Ex Machina. \_________________\

          Ex Machina WWW Page at: http://iamac.st-and.ac.uk/ExMachina/

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    Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 22:36:01 -0500 (CDT)
    From: "Brian V. Cox" <bvc8995@tam2000.tamu.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: light years
    Message-ID: <199505050336.WAA26219@tam2000.tamu.edu>

    > From: cohen.132@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steve Cohen)
    > Subject: Miles Vs.Light Years
    >
    > >> 93 MillionLIGHT YEARS and the technology only permits 45 seconds of music?
    > >> Pretty absurd but this is an interesting thread. I have to answer.How about
    > >> the combined solos on Take the time? Or possibly the incredible chromatic
    > >> melody on CiaW? Remember, it's 1:30 at night, and my brain is shutting down
    > >
    > >(93m miles is the approximate distance from the earth to
    > >the sun, btw)
    > Hey, there is a HUGE difference between a mile and a light year. Let's see,
    > light travels at186,000 miles per SECOND, so that would make a light year
    > about 5,865,700,000,000 MILES long. Five trillion miles is a little longer
    > than 93 Million. Just to clarify:).

    actually, if it is 93 million light years, it would be an even greater
    difference than 93 million miles. 93 x 10^6 l.y. = 9.1 x 10^18 miles
    or almost 10 billion billion miles :)

    (in shame for contributing to useless posts...) :)

    dt content: where the hell is my subconcious #008, mike???

       **always looking for rush/dream theater/queensryche/king's x bootlegs**
    =============================================================================
     Voices repeating me, Brian V. Cox Voices discussing me,
     "Feeling threatened? lerxst@tamu.edu "Others steal your thoughts
    We reflect your hopes Dream Theater- They're not confined
         and fears." A Mind Beside Itself: II. Voices Within your mind."
    =============================================================================
             check out my new homepage: http://tam2000.tamu.edu/~bvc8995

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    Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 11:57:30 -0500
    From: "Dan Tshin" <donews!danman>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: Recording Tidbits
    Message-ID: <m0s7EV6-000g6NC@george.orbonline.net>

    > Dan,
    > Here's a primer lesson in how not to put your foot in your mouth.
    Hey!!! I didn't, I swear!! =) No offence taken. BUT...

    >
    > First of all, let's define what DOUBLE/TRIPLE Tracking is, and
    > discuss why it is done.
    >
    > As you may or may not know, every note has a frequency, and has
    > harmonic overtones, etc. These can be seen with a frequency
    analyzer, or
    > an osciloscope, usually in the cases of pure tone. However, it's
    not
    > frequently done, so just keep that in the back of your mind.
    >
    > Now, in the case of double tracking, there are many who feel that
    > the effect of having the same part played twice, then mixed
    together,
    > create a fatter, fuller sound. Why?
    >
    > Well, simple, my friend. It's a simple concept known as
    > CONSTRUCTIVE INTERFERENCE. Of course, there is also DESTRUCTIVE
    > Interference, and, as this comes into play with this, we will also
    > discuss this.

    Ok, don't worry about it. I UNDERSTAND this. I was the top student in

    my high school physics class (which is one of the hardest in the
    Toronto region, according to most people, including teachers.)

    Anyways.

    >
    > Anyway, what BASICALLY happens is, when you want to DOUBLE or
    > TRIPLE or QUADRUPLE track something, YOU HAVE TO PLAY/SING IT TWO,
    THREE
    > OR FOUR TIMES. The RESULTING SOUND is very much like a chorusing
    effect.
    >
    > FACT: Randy DID DOUBLE AND OCCASIONALLY TRIPLE TRACK HIS LEADS.
    >
    > FACT: IT IS HUMANLY IMPOSSIBLE TO PLAY SOMETHING EXACTLY THE SAME
    > EVERY SINGLE TIME. IF IT WERE, THEN THERE WOULD BE NO SUCH THINGS
    AS
    > CONSTRUCTIVE AND DESTRUCTIVE INTERFERENCE.

    I don't dispute this.

    > And, essentially, you've contridicted yourself in your statement.
    > To Double/Triple-Track, it must be the same PART played correctly,
    over
    > and over again. HOWEVER, there are inherent sonic differences (hey,
    if

    Yes. What I meant to say was that he PLAYED his parts over again. He
    played it PHYSICALLY instead of using a machine or a box to phase
    shift it or what not. I remember he was a stickler to play each part
    note-for-note to create that chorused effect.

    > Open mouth, insert foot. =)

    Nah, I don't think I did that. ;-) I hope I explained myself clearer,
    anyhow.

    > Anyway, just thought I'd again apologize for seemingly ripping one guy
    > named Dan a new anal orafice. =)

    <G> No offence taken!

    Enuf of non-DT content.

    I'm waiting, waiting for my Subcon to arrive. Has anyone with
    numbers in the 80's or 90's gotten their copy yet?? I'm going to
    visit this guy with a neat Dolby Surround setup tomorrow, so I hope
    that I will have it... so... I can get... blown away... :)

    Sorry, no .sig today... I just moved over to the new Pegasus Mail...

    Dan

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    Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 23:57:16 -0400 (EDT)
    From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu>
    To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: Singers
    Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.950504234455.87154B-100000@moose.uvm.edu>

            It seems to me that a lot of people on this list are singers,
    some of which seem to have had some sort of formal training. I
    consider the singer to be THE most important part of the band, which
    is rather odd considering that I'm a drummer. I judge a band by their
    singer: if the singer is good, then the band is good, regardless if the
    rest are good musicans or not; if the singer is bad, then I listen to see
    how the drummer, guitarist, and bassist (in that order) are. But I still
    won't be able to like the band. That's just my opinion. I know I'm
    weird. When I say a "good" singer, that doesn't necessarily mean one with an
    incredible vocal range, like Labrie. It could be someone with a very
    limited vocal range like Brett Michaels of Poison (don't say it!!). All
    that matters is that you believe what they are singing.
            This is message is directed at you Los Angeles-living singers: if
    you have some time on your hands over the summer, I would love to jam
    with you. If you are interested, e-mail me. Sorry for the length.

                            Richie
                            rrivera@moose.uvm.edu

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    Date: 05 May 95 00:14:57 EDT
    From: Tom Swoboda <75024.2237@compuserve.com>
    To: <YTSEJAM@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: Subscribe YTSEJAM
    Message-ID: <950505041457_75024.2237_GHJ156-1@CompuServe.COM>

    Dear Reader,
           Please put me on your mailing list for bootlegs, etc.

    Thanks!

    --T.J. Swoboda 75024.2237@compuserve.com

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    Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 00:35:41 -0400
    From: Kevin R Laferriere <laferrie@bashful.usmcs.maine.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: DT Tape
    Message-ID: <9505050435.AA03214@bashful.usmcs.maine.edu>

      I put some songs on tape tonight, and here's how it is:

     Side 1
     - The Ytse Jam
     - Caught In A Web
     - A Fortune In Lies (Live)
     - Scarred
     - Pull Me Under
     - Light Fuse And Get Away
     - Wait For Sleep

     Side 2
     - Erotomonia
     - Voices
     - The Silent Man
     - The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun
     - The Killing Hand (Live)
     - Innocence Faded
     - End of IF (the instrumental rules!)

    Kevin Laferriere
    laferrie@usmcs.maine.edu
    http://www.usmcs.maine.edu/~laferrie

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    Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 00:39:23 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
    To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: Tesla Update?
    Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.950505003259.11157B-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>

    I talked to that guy I know who was supposed to get an audition for tesla
    on guitar, and he told me the following:

    He called a friend who works at Sony Records "who knows everybody," and
    was told that the guy he was supposed to audition to take the place of
    had already been replaced.

    We're still waiting for verification, but, that seems to be the verdict.

    And, incidentally: for those of you in the Philly area (or NJ for that
    matter), my band, Spruce Street Revival will be appearing 5/15 @ a place
    called "Upstairs At Nick's." It's on South 2nd Street. I believe the
    showtime is 10pm.

    Email me for more info at the address that appears somewhere in this
    post. =)

    Also: our demo has been delayed, due to one of our guitarist's illness
    (back in april), and finals. Gag.

    I'm supposed to be studying the ins & outs of video editing. Double Gag.

    Did you know that a Quadraplex Format Transverse Scanning Recorder's
    heads revolve @ 14,400 RPM, and the tape speed is 15ips? Consequently,
    the writing speed is 1,561 ips. Joy. Rapture. Like I need to know this.

    This royally sucks. Oh well. Best of luck to all of you who are in the
    same boat! =)

    -Hairball, the undaunted hero of small rodents and cats everywhere

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    Date: Fri, 05 May 95 00:00:26 EST
    From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: YTSEJAM digest 805
    Message-ID: <9505050000.D6073YZ@clubmet.metrobbs.com>

    Well all...

           I really dont have much imput on Dream Theater today. Well...I
    do love em! (there...I don't feel so bad. (grin).

           Anyway...I just saw Queensryche in Kansas City Tuesday (may 2).
    WHAT A SHOW! I had a good time! Some pretty cool media stuff!

                                   market@clubmet.metrobbs.com

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    Date: Fri, 5 May 95 8:34 +0300
    From: Aviad Hay <aviad@kids-mail.huji.ac.il>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Corrections! Correction!
    Message-ID: <9505050540.AA26225@anthor.arastar.com>

    >Aviad Hay writes of a 'wild part' in PMU that involved myung tapping...does
    >myung tap on PMU, and if so where? Or did he mean metropolis and I
    >misunderstood him?
    >thanks,
    >bharath dwarakanath

    All apologies! I wrote PMU instead of Metropolis. John (the king) does
    his mind blowing tapping session at Metropolis and *NOT* PMU.
    Sorry y'all!
    Sorry John!

    Aviad -

    BTW: Has anyone taken notice to the cool riff John is playing on the
         Intro of 6:00? As a tablature it will go like this:

    [ I'm doing a six string scheme just to be a smartass, although you
      DON'T need a six string to pull this one [although it could be that
      John is using his low B because it is a E pentatonic after all -
      depends on his mood I guess] ]

    C |---------------------------------------------------------------------|
    G |---------------------------------------------------------------------|
    D |---------------------------------------------------------------------|
    A |------7-5-7-5-7-----7-5-7-5-7-5-7-----7-5-7-5-------5-----5-----5----|
    E |--0-------------0-----------------0-----------7-5-7---5-7---5-7------|
    B |---------------------------------------------------------------------|

    [ Imagine this to be a nice,shinny,smooth red Tobias Basic 6 that has
      been touched and blessed by the king... ]

    I personally think it's a really nice riff - John P join The King
    on this riff at the verso - but we all know the king does it best
    with Portnoy as a bass&drums session. (Don't get me wrong - Petrucci
    = the best guitarist on the statosphere).

    Just thought it was worth mentioning.

    Praise The King!

    "The Peavey B-quad does it for me!" - a hypocritic T.V. seller

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    Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 01:13:42 -0500
    From: "Mark A. Parker" <parkerma@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: voice as instrument
    Message-ID: <199505050613.BAA00366@o233-13.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu>

    I gotta agree with you, Mr. Vai. You can replace guitar
    strings and drum sticks, but if you break a vocal chord, God
    save you...

    Dom'ny

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    Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 01:19:18 -0500
    From: "Mark A. Parker" <parkerma@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re:What is Progressive Music
    Message-ID: <199505050619.BAA00371@o233-13.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu>

    >Rap Music is an oxymoron. (with apologies to Rush & Extreme)

    hey, at least these boys have decent singing voices and
    some musical talent... they also put more thought into their
    songs than "I want to **** you all night long" or
    "Let's get that cop over there."

    heavily stereotyped, but so fitting...
    Dom'ny

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    Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 23:39:59 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Steve Borzilleri <silenzio@elwha.evergreen.edu>
    To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: Deciphering / Reviews
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9505042327.A17325-0100000@elwha.evergreen.edu>

    To he who posted about "Space-Dye Vest": okay, okay, Bafu Vai to the
    rescue! I will sit down with this song and write out all spoken parts and
    forward them to the Dream Theater Showtime Listings, known to many as the
    Ytsejam Mailing List. (and did someone want the lyrics to "To Live
    Forever?")

    To he who posted about an in-depth review of Subcon: what do you think
    will happen when I receive mine? :)

    And now a question to all: which member of DT do you think would be the
    best choice to work the Dream Theater Box Office? Heh heh heh...

    Bafu Vai

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    Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 01:51:15 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Jim Beavens <beavenj@ECE.ORST.EDU>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: The Mirror --> Learning to Live
    Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950505014707.4862A-100000@holmes.ece.orst.edu>

    While some people are on the subject of The Mirror's cool opening rhythm,
    I thought I'd mention how impressed I've always been with the intro to
    Learning to Live. I can always find 4 or 5 different rhythms to tap my
    foot to when I'm listening to this song. Dream Theater is so cool...

    Jim

               Jim Beavens |"Early to rise and early to bed,
         Oregon State University | makes a man wise but socially dead."
    Electrical & Computer Engineering |
          beavenj@ECE.ORST.EDU | -- Animaniacs

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    Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 05:08:48 -0400
    From: AirDance@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Mike Portnoy Interview (LONG!!!)
    Message-ID: <950505050847_107667611@aol.com>

    Mike Portnoy Interview
    DRUM! magazine
    April/May '95

    Paragraph under the table of contents section, describing the interview:

    "By combining brainy progressive rock with hard-driving metal, Dream Theater
    has made its name by defying stereotypes. Double-bass pumping Portnoy, who
    is often compared to Rush legend Neil Peart, steers the band with dizzying
    chops and complex syncopations. For this in-depth interview, we sat down
    with Portnoy behind his kit, and had him explain how and why he plays the way
    he does. Complete with transcriptions and equipment diagrams."

    Article title: Indescribable Mike Portnoy of Dream Theater Goes His Own Way
    Author: Greg Rule

         From the grating grind of Nine Inch Nails to the infectious pop-punk
    grooves of Green Day, today's multi-platinum megastars are a far cry from
    yesterday's paid-by-the-note shredders. If it's bloody, muddy, aggressive,
    or angry, chances are, it has an audience.

         And then there's Dream Theater.

         When all current musical trends point toward the above, this
    Berklee-trained quartet is running full speed in the opposite direction.
    With _Awake_, their latest on East West Records, they've given the slumbering
    progressive rock giant a swift and serious kick in the pants. As Bass Player
    magazine so aptly summarized: "Whew -- these guys are licensed to chop!"

         And we couldn't agree more.

         But Dream Theater's music is more than a mere note-fest. Much more.
     Just when they've established a theme in, say, seven, along comes a 16-bar
    bridge of lethal, Pantera-esque metal that leads into a spacious, half-time
    synth breakdown. A series of surgically-played drum and guitar flurries ring
    out like machine gun blasts and, just when you least expect it, the whole
    band yanks an eighth-note off the end of a bar and launches into a section of
    nine. "Where's the frigging 1?!?"

         The man responsible for holding it all together is drummer Mike Portnoy.
     At times reminiscent of Neil Peart, Terry Bozzio, and even the mighty Vinnie
    Paul, he's a twin kick master who's capable of displacing time and uncorking
    brain-busting polyrhythms with the greatest of ease.

         One look is all it takes to realize that this drummer is his own unique
    beast, though. He sits high. Very high. His drums and cymbals are
    clustered unusually close to his body. And his calculated, almost
    stiff-looking motions are not what you'd expect to see from such a
    fluid-sounding technician. Intrigued? So were we.

         When Dream Theater rolled through San Francisco on their most recent worl
    d tour, DRUM! was there with notebook, tape recorder, and camcorder in tow,
    and, much to our enjoyment and enlightenment, our meeting turned out to be
    anything but ordinary. Backstage, sprawled across his dressing room sofa,
    Portnoy told us stories of his musical past, took us behind the Dream Theater
    scenes, and talked about his signing with Mapex drums. But it wasn't until
    he led us up to the stage that the sparks really started to fly. With our
    camcorder rolling, we watched bug-eyed as the drummer picked up his sticks
    and proceeded to unload.

         Here's what we discovered.

    DRUM!: There's seldom a dull moment listening to Dream Theater. Rush. Yes.
     Kansas. Malmsteen. At times the band even sounds like Pantera with
    keyboards. Are they an influence?

    Portnoy: Oh yeah. That's mainly my department, the heavy stuff. We all
    listen to a lot of different things. As a band, we have a lot of common
    influences. Those are probably the ones that come out the most in the music.
     Stuff like the progressive rock bands of the '70s: Rush, Yes, Kansas,
    Zappa, the Dregs. And we combine that with a lot of today's heavier music --
    Metallica, for example -- and a lot of the heavies from the past: Maiden,
    Sabbath, Judas Priest. Those are the band's common influences, but
    individually, we go off on our own tangents. I'm really into the heavy side,
    like Pantera, Sepultura, and Machine Head. But I also listen to a lot of
    other music, like rap: Public Enemy, Beastie Boys. That music has just as
    much influence on my drumming as anything else. I mean, Public Enemy is just
    programmed drums, but all the different grooves and all the rhythms that they
    layer on top of each other is just as inspirational to me as listening to
    Terry Bozzio. The thing is, we're all very open-minded listeners, and when
    it comes to writing music, we try to be just as open-minded. One day we'll
    be in the mood to write something heavy, and another day we'll feel like
    going off into a Peter Gabriel vibe.
      
    DRUM!: What type of regiment did you put yourself through in the early days
    to reach this level of musicianship?

    Portnoy: I had a little bit of training, but I think I'm generally a
    self-taught drummer. My dad was a rock and roll disc jockey, so immediately
    I was turned onto the Beatles, the Who, the Doors and Hendrix. I was surround
    ed by rock and roll. Growing up, I had this enormous record collection. So
    once I started playing drums, I jammed along with the records. I was a huge
    Kiss freak at the time. Keith Moon and John Bonham were my first two drum
    gods. I took a few initial lessons just to learn how to hold the sticks and
    stuff like that, but that was the extent of it. Basically, I learned by
    listening to records. But I think the period when I developed the most was
    when I started getting into music that was more intricate -- when I
    discovered Rush. Neil Peart turned my world upside down. I became a Rush
    fanatic. I learned all of their songs backward and forward. That was my
    first introduction to odd time signatures and the like. Then I discovered
    Frank Zappa, probably my biggest influence of all time. Terry Bozzio, Vinnie
    Colaiuta, all those guys introduced me to the world of diversity and polyrhyth
    ms. Basically, I think I've always listened to a lot of different kinds of
    music and always tried to learn. I tried to get inside the heads of all
    those drummers. Another thing is, when I first started to play, my longing
    to learn went beyond just the drums. When I was in high school, I was taking
    a lot of music theory classes, and I became obsessed with learning all that
    stuff. Harmony, theory -- I wanted to become a
    complete musician, not just a drummer. That training is something that's
    really helped with the songwriting in this band because I'm always involved
    in it now.

    DRUM!: You eventually wound up at the Berklee School of Music, right?

    Portnoy: Right. I went to Berklee after I graduated high school and just
    surrounded myself with music theory. I took arranging classes, sight
    singing, ear training, and all that kind of stuff. That's where I met John
    and John (bassist John Myung and guitarist John Petrucci), and that's when we
    put the band together.

    DRUM!: In addition to drums, were you studying piano or other instruments at
    Berklee?

    Portnoy: No, I pretty much taught myself how to play those; I taught myself
    how to pick up a bass or a guitar or piano, learn the notes, and that's when
    all my music theory training came in. Music is mathematics, really. You've
    got to learn some of the golden rules, and from there you can take it
    wherever you want. When I was taking all the theory classes, I would go out
    and pick up transcription books of Yes and all these bands who used odd time
    signatures and I would look at the notes, figure out the counting, the time
    signatures and the math.

    DRUM!: It's one thing to understand it, but another thing to manifest it
    physically.

    Portnoy: Yeah, analyzing it is half the battle. For me, getting myself to
    learn it physically was just a matter of putting on the record and playing
    along with it.

    DRUM!: In other words, you're one of the naturally-gifted types who most
    musicians despise?

    Portnoy: [Laughs.] The rest of the guys in the band hate me 'cause they're
    constantly practicing, but I'm not as disciplined. In fact, I'm downright
    lackadaisical about it, at least these days anyway. Years ago, when I was
    really taking it all in, I used to practice a lot. But these days, I have
    more things in my life. I'm onstage two hours a night playing drums, and
    when we're off tour, the last thing I want to see is my drum set. I want to
    spend time with my wife, or do other things. But those guys are always on
    their instrument.

    DRUM!: Let's analyze a few songs from _Awake_, starting with "6:00." The
    chorus is in six, and about halfway through, you displace the time.

    Portnoy: The keyboard part is doing the same thing throughout, he's holding
    down the downbeats, but I'm turning it around. If I remember correctly, I'm
    moving the downbeat for myself, the guitar, and the bass one 16th-note later
    than where it was.

    DRUM!: Do you usually incorporate those types of tricks on purpose, or do
    they occur unintentionally sometimes?

    Portnoy: In this case it was my doing. They were playing the riff, and I
    heard it differently than they were hearing it. So we said, "Okay, let's do
    it like this the first time around, and like that the second time." A lot of
    times when we're writing stuff, that's how it is. Someone will have a lick in
    nine, and one guy will be phrasing it in five and four, and I might be
    phrasing it in three, three, and three. So a lot of times we'll try it every
    possible way. Or, if we're playing something in four, rather than phrasing
    it as "one-two-three-four, one-two-three-four," I might phrase it as
    "one-two-three, one-two-three, one-two.

    DRUM!: What drums are featured on the opening fill of "6:00"?

    Portnoy: Those are pseudo-Octabans that Mapex built for me.

    DRUM!: The intro groove is in four followed by a Bozzio-esque double bass
    pattern. What's your approach to fast double bass footwork?

    Portnoy: Single strokes, and I play heel up because I sit so high. I don't
    even think my heels would reach the floor. I like my toms to be flat, so I
    have to sit high in order to reach them without twisting my arms off. That's
    one of the reasons I had Mapex make me small toms so I could sit them flat
    and low to the bass drums. Anyway, that particular section was a bitch to
    record. It's weird, because when you're writing this stuff or playing it
    live, there are always those types of monster sections, and it's like, "Okay,
    here it comes, here it comes." And you work it out, and that's it. You
    don't have to deal with it until the next night. But when you're in the
    studio and you're doing three or four takes of each song, after a while it
    gets kind of crazy. I remember that one particular part with those double
    bass things -- it was a bitch to nail 'cause it had to be right on the money.
    After playing it over and over and over in the studio, it starts to wear you
    down.

    DRUM!: Speaking of fast double bass patterns, Vinnie Paul told us he
    duct-tapes quarters to his bass drum heads so each note will come across
    cleanly on tape. Do you incorporate any type of special tuning, or similar
    techniques, to make sure those fast notes won't end up sounding like a blur?

    Portnoy: No, I'm not a sound-monger like Vinnie is. That's his thing. I
    don't really know that much about the recording process. I'm not an engineer
    type guy. So basically, I go over the sounds with the engineer and producer
    and make sure everyone is happy. That's something we didn't have with
    _Images and Words_. I hated the drum sounds on that album because the
    producer shoved the triggering thing down my throat, which is something I
    was not a fan of. He was a very head-strong producer who did things his way,
    and
    that was it. But this time around I wanted to make sure that everything was
    there, that everything was audible, and that everything was real -- all
    acoustic.

    DRUM!: The song "Caught In A Web" has some nice time changes.

    Portnoy: It starts off in three or six, depending on how you count it, and
    the verse grooves are in four. The thing that pops up occasionally before
    the chorus has a measure of seven in there. But that whole song was cool
    because I don't think I've ever done a song where the whole thing was double
    bass throughout the whole song. The only time the double bass stops is for
    the choruses and part of the third verse. It was kind of the opposite,
    because a lot of people will kick into double bass for the choruses for
    effect, but I did the opposite.

    DRUM!: On songs that have long, repetitive figures like that, do you ever
    catch yourself playing psychological mind games: "It's only the second
    verse. Keep it steady. Will I make it?"

    Portnoy: When we record, yes. In those situations, everything is under a
    microscope, so yeah, you become real self-conscious about it. Live, though,
    I try not to think about it. A big part of us playing live is the natural
    adrenaline onstage. If the tempo fluctuates, or whatever, that's okay. I
    don't usually get stressed-out over my parts.

    DRUM!: "Erotomania" starts with an organ riff in five.

    Portnoy: It's in five, but it ends in 9/8. I bet some people think it's a
    mistake, that we're rushing the beat on the last measure. But it's actually
    in 9/8.

    DRUM!: How did you phrase that section of nine?

    Portnoy: That's a good example of what I was saying earlier, because most of
    the time, I'm phrasing it as four and five, but toward the end of the song, I'
    m phrasing it as three sets of three. It's all arithmetic. There are so
    many times when we're dealing with odd time signatures or polyrhythms and we
    actually sit there with a pen and paper and figure out where the beats are
    landing. It's all a matter of counting and arithmetic, adding things up and
    making them equal out.

    DRUM!: In "The Mirror" you apply a couple of different drum grooves to a
    steady figure played by the guitar, giving the illusion that the whole riff
    has changed when, in fact, it hasn't.

    Portnoy: That intro was something I came up with, just changing the beats
    around under that one rhythm. Without those guys ever changing, I change
    from a triplet pattern to a 16th-note thing and then I yank one of the
    eighth-notes off of it and turn it around. That's just me having fun with
    numbers.

    DRUM!: What drums did you record with?

    Portnoy: The Mapex kit.

    DRUM!: You used to play Tama. Why the switch?

    Portnoy: The Tama kit I played on the last album was my first real kit. I
    worked three jobs one summer when I was 16 years old, saved up, and bought
    that kit. So basically, at the end of the last tour, it was like, "Okay,
    it's definitely time for something new." Not because I didn't like the drums
    -- they held up great -- but because I wanted to expand my setup. Different
    sizes, and stuff like that. Mapex was pursuing me strongly at the time, so I
    went down to their factory in Nashville when we played there and they showed
    me their drums. My options were open at that point because Tama wasn't
    really doing anything for me. So I discussed with Mapex some things I
    wanted, and they custom-built a kit for me. Once they delivered it and I
    played it, it was like, "Wow, this sounds great. Let's do it."

    DRUM!: Do you play the same setup live?

    Portnoy: Same one.

    DRUM!: On tour, do you find yourself generally sticking to the same grooves
    and fills each night, or do you mix it up?

    Portnoy: I like to change some of my parts live. Obviously I can't stray too
     far away from the structure of the song, everything is so nailed down, but
    within that structure I like to change the fills and the licks and sometimes
    the phrasings every once in a while. A lot of that stuff happens spontaneousl
    y, and if I wasn't recording the shows, a lot of it would be lost forever. I
    might pull out some crazy thing that may or may not work, but at least I'll
    have it on tape and if I like it, I might end up using it for the rest of the
    tour.

    DRUM!: So you don't feel too inhibited live, improvisationally?

    Portnoy: It's tough, because this music is so thought-out and interlocked
    and orchestrated, it's hard to stray too far from that, but we always have at
    least one part of the live show that's a total improvisation. We've always
    tried to put that in the set somewhere.

    DRUM!: When you do improvise, do you attempt to detach yourself from your
    tried-and-true vocabulary of chops, or do you strive to completely break free
    of that at times?

    Portnoy: Every drummer has his or her vocabulary. You learn stuff
    throughout the years and that becomes part of your arsenal. So you usually
    find yourself picking and choosing from what you know. But hopefully you
    have enough to where you can throw it into different contexts. Being able to
    break free. . .so many of our songs are written like that, where we'll get
    together at rehearsal, somebody will come up with a progression, and we'll go
    off on it for an hour, taking it into a dozen different places.

    DRUM!: So Dream Theater writes as a band.

    Portnoy: Generally speaking, everything in this band is collaborative. The
    method was a little different in the past, because on the the first two
    albums we had all the time in the world to write. This time around it was a
    little different. We had a clock hanging over our heads. It was like, "Go.
     Get in there and do it." We spent eight hours a night writing. We really
    had to put our heads together and bang it out. In some cases, we actually
    wrote a whole song in one eight-hour rehearsal, whereas in the past we'd go
    for months on end writing one song. We'd spend months dissecting everyone's
    parts, making sure every note was perfectly locked-in and orchestrated
    correctly. There were points where we'd spend six hours of rehearsal on four
    measures of music. One thing that helped us this time were tapes from old
    soundchecks. I have my DAT machine out on tour with us and it's set up at
    the board at all times. The main groove in "Lie," for example, was something
    from a soundcheck in Germany that we listened to and said, "Yeah, let's use
    this." The intro to "Voices" was from a soundcheck in Baltimore. And
    "Erotomania," because it was an instrumental, incorporated bits and pieces
    from a bunch of different soundchecks. "Throw 'em all in there!"

    DRUM!: How comfortable are odd time signatures to you now?

    Portnoy: Depends on the situation. If we're writing something in an odd
    time signature, I usually have to count it at first. Some of the stuff gets
    pretty intricate, so we keep a chalkboard at rehearsals and we write it out.
     But after playing the song a hundred times in rehearsal and then recording
    it, it usually becomes second nature. It's like, live -- now that I'm saying
    this I'll probably screw up the whole show tonight [laughs] -- but by the
    time we get on tour, I'm so comfortable with the songs, I can pretty much put
    myself on automatic-pilot.

    DRUM!: Do you focus mentally on any one instrument more than the others when
    you're playing?

    Portnoy: I'm one of these drummers who plays mostly off of the guitar,
    whereas most traditional drummers play with the bass. A lot of our music is
    very intricate rhythmically, and the guitar is usually locked right in there
    with me. I'll usually only listen to the guitar in my monitor. I won't even
    put bass or vocals in there. Usually, I'm keying in on that, and [bassist]
    John Myung will key into me or the guitar.

    DRUM!: Your physical technique is somewhat unusual -- not the most relaxed
    or fluid-looking.

    Portnoy: If you listen to the record, it might sound like I'm relaxed, but
    I'm usually pretty stiff and aggressive. Especially live. It's all
    aggression.

    DRUM!: Do you ever catch yourself tensing up too much?

    Portnoy: Sometimes, but I try to glide from section to section. There are
    parts that call for full-out thrash drumming. But there are other parts
    where you have to back off in order to nail the syncopations.

    DRUM!: If you weren't playing in Dream Theater, what style of music do you
    think you'd pursue?

    Portnoy: My tastes are so different that I could be happy playing with the
    Red Hot Chili Peppers, I could be happy playing with Pantera, or I could be
    happy playing with a band like Jellyfish. But the great thing about this
    band is the fact that I can incorporate all of those influences. As much as
    I love the heavy stuff, if I was in Pantera, I would only be doing that, and
    I would probably feel restricted because most of those bands don't go off
    into all these different territories like Dream Theater does. For diversity,
    this gig is hard to beat.

    Portnoy's Setup

    Drums: Mapex

    1.24" bass drum
    2.14" x 5-1/2" snare drum
    3.6" Octabons
    4.8" x 8" mounted tom
    5.10" x 8" mounted tom
    6.12" x 8" mounted tom
    7.14" x 10" mounted tom
    8.16" x 16" floor tom
    9.18" x 16" floor tom

    Percussion: LP

    10.Bongos
    11.Junior congas
    12.Tambourine
    13.Percussion table: Single-row chimes, bell tree, five wood blocks,
    tri-bell set, agogo bell set, triangle, Vibra-Slap 2
    14.10" timbalitos
    15.Ridge Rider cowbell

    Cymbals: Sabian

    16.10" B8 Pro splash
    17.18" AA Chinese
    18.14" AAX hi-hats
    19.12" AAX splash
    20.16" AA medium crash
    21.18" AA medium crash
    22.8" AAX splash
    23.6" CD disc
    24.10" AAX splash
    25.18" AA medium crash
    26.17" HH medium thin crash
    27.13" AA Rock hi-hats
    28.12" AA Mini Hats
    29.22" HH Rock ride
    30.12" AA Mini Chinese
    31.20" HH thin Chinese

    Mike Portnoy also uses DW 5000 Accelerator pedals, Hot sticks, Remo drumheads
    and DW hi-hat pedals.

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    That's it! There was a brief transcription of some of Mike's best licks included as well, but I have no idea how to translate that stuff on the computer, sorry! Hope you enjoyed it! :)

    Take care all,

    Jennifer <airdance@aol.com>

    Q: "If you could play for anyone in the history of the universe, made-up or real, what would you play, for whom, and what shoes would you wear?"

    A: "Lucifer. Penny Lane. Flipflops."

    -Tori Amos, Q&A at UCLA 2-27-95

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