YTSEJAM Digest 811
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Ross666 selling demos
by AirDance@aol.com
2) Re: The Mirror some more
by Tilman Kuendgen <tiku@rz.uni-sb.de>
3)
by
4)
by
5)
by
6)
by
7)
by
8) "Ytsejam" origin...
by "DANIEL JAMES TEMMESFELD" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
9) Dio & Kerry Livgren
by debraun@fresno.edu (Randall Braun)
10) James LaBrie's birthday
by =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQmc2PyEhMm1HNxsoQg==?=
11) Temporary sign-off
by eparr@vt.edu (Eric)
12) Re: Bass on 6:00
by Jeremy Longley <jcl1008@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
13) The King and Vai
by miker@atn.com (Mike Rashas)
14) Re: ROSS666
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
15) stuff
by zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
16) Re: DT Tape
by A Humble Dream Theater Fanatic <polzin@glibm11.cen.uiuc.edu>
17) LaBrie and Blue Murder
by WarrenDW@aol.com
18) Re. Hi, Again!
by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
19) To Live Forever on SUBCON
by Alex Lifeson <TRMD@grove.iup.edu>
20) STOP PRESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by mtiplady@cix.compulink.co.uk (Mark Tiplady)
21) re: The Mirror GUITAR Rythm
by mjgundry@mtu.edu (Matt Gundry)
22) Re: distances and voice; no DT content
by jjens@site.gmu.edu (John Jens (CS 112))
23) Re: What's Subcon Like?
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
24) Mr. Portnoy - reflections...
by Aviad Shkolnikov <shkola@kids-mail.huji.ac.il>
25) CHANGING SEASONS TOUR '95?
by nguyen john t <jtnguyen@cs.twsu.edu>
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Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 05:08:33 -0400
From: AirDance@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Ross666 selling demos
Message-ID: <950505050831_107667515@aol.com>
Hi everyone,
Steve Borzilleri <silenzio@elwha.evergreen.edu> wrote:
>>>To AirDance@aol.com: I find it extremely distasteful to put someone's home
address on a mailing list without their consent.<<<
First of all, it was a _P.O. Box_, NOT a "home address." Big difference.
Besides, I would hope that the people reading this list have better things
to do than harrass someone for whatever reason, especially when I myself
suggested the _opposite_ (a boycott).
It wasn't exactly the most brilliant thing in the world for Andrew to forward
his address to someone he didn't even know & had never had any previous
contact with at all in the hopes of making a quick buck. In cyberspace, that
can be like playing russian roulette. But if he had no trouble sending his
address to someone he didn't know, like me, why should I not feel ok posting
it to YJ? And perhaps you are not aware that this fellow is breaking the law
by selling copyrighted materials for his own profit without permission from th
e owner of the copyright? As far as I'm concerned, he pretty much gave up
claim to any rights he may have had by committing those two acts. He's lucky
the only action that's been taken against him is a suggested boycott.
>>>Please tell me you actually talked to this person and asked them what was
up before you put their home address on the Ytsejams for hundreds of people
to mail to, or flame the hell out of via their America Online address.<<<
In case you didn't see, I posted later that Andrew did apologize & said that
he would remove the demos from his sale list. But keep in mind that this
fellow sells bootlegs & that one person politely requesting that he remove
something from his list out of honor & decency probably won't really stop him
from selling them anyway. After all, what he's doing is illegal in the first
place & he's probably making a profit from it. But I'm willing to give him
the benefit of the doubt for now.
I never said that everyone on YJ should "flame the hell out of him" or fill
his mailbox for no reason, I simply asked that everyone _boycott_ him. The
only context within which I suggested saying _anything_ to him at all was if
he sent his sale list to you _first_. I most certainly give everyone here
enough credit to know the difference between the two.
>>>This happened with that Jeremy fellow, and what really stunned me was that
the guy who HAD his number didn't try CALLING him first. Instead, he threw
Jeremy's home phone number up on this list so that the world could call
him.<<<
This has nothing to do with me, but to my knowledge, Jeremy was not selling
anything like Andrew, just trading tapes, so the situations involved are a
bit different. I never posted Andrew's phone number, nor would I have if I'd
had access to it. There would have been no reason to, in this particular
case.
But tell me, why should it be anyone here's responsibility to call Jeremy?
The ball was most definitely in his court the whole time & he never did
anything to rectify the situation.
>>>Did anyone ever find out what happened with him or are we still calling
him to tell him he sucks and writing him hate mail?<<<
I can understand why everyone who was ripped off by him is distressed, I'm
sure that I would be too. I would never send anyone hate mail, but I can see
why some people may have. But I also think that Jeremy probably had plenty
of chances to let people know what was going on and he chose _not_ to
instead. I don't have much sympathy for someone who doesn't even care enough
to stand up & try to defend himself.
>>>Yes, I know he screwed a lot of people, but personally I would try to
establish contact myself and TALK to him and see what's up before doing
something like this.<<<
Lots of people e-mailed Jeremy to talk to him, but he never answered them.
Does anyone know what his situation is at this point? I still think
everyone here who was duped by him has the right to know what happened,
whether they ever receive their missing tapes or not. Perhaps you could be
the ambassador of goodwill between the two parties, Steve? :)
Jennifer
<airdance@aol.com>
Q: "If you could play for anyone in the history of the universe, made-up or
real, what would you play, for whom, and what shoes would you wear?"
A: "Lucifer. Penny Lane. Flipflops."
-Tori Amos, Q&A at UCLA 2-27-95
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Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 11:58:30 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Tilman Kuendgen <tiku@rz.uni-sb.de>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: The Mirror some more
Message-ID: <199505050958.LAA16466@sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de>
Hi Jammers! Here just my .02 concerning the rhythms in The Mirror:
------------------------------
1 2 3 4
|||||||||||||||| <-- 1/16
xxx xxx xxx xxx <-- Guitar/Bass
-------------------------
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1 2 3
|||||||||||| <-- 1/16
xxx xxx xxx
--------------------------
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1 2 3 4
|||||||||||| <-- TRIPLETS!!
xxx xxx xxx
Is this really declared as 12/8 in the AWAKE TAB's ??
I don't think this is right, it's simple (But VERY COOL!)
4/4 w/ triplets, so this cannot be 12/8 !
-------------------------------
------------------------------
1 2 3 4
|||||||||||||||| <-- 1/16
xxx xxx xxx xxx
-------------------------------
------------------------------
1 2 3 4
|||||||||||||||| <-- 1/16
xxx xxx xxx xxx
.. and so on... Yes, cool.
What do you think?
Any comments/corrections?
Tilman.
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Date: Fri, 05 May 1995 05:14:00 -500 (EST)
From: "DANIEL JAMES TEMMESFELD" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: "Ytsejam" origin...
Message-ID: <2FAA0CE1.0CD8.00BF.000@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
Does anybody out there know which member (or producer) came up with
switching Majesty around to name "The Ytse Jam?"
Thanks,
Dan Temmesfeld
s1133627@cedarville.edu
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Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 15:39:05 -0700
From: debraun@fresno.edu (Randall Braun)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Dio & Kerry Livgren
Message-ID: <v01520c00abceb1ed8e71@[204.161.33.79]>
Just a clrification from my last post. Dio did the vocals on 'Mask of the
Great Deceiver' & 'To Live for the King' on Livgren's 'Seeds of Change'
album.
--Randall L. Braun
It felt like the impossible attempt to create a sensory image of non-existence
--AYN RAND, Atlas Shrugged
Belief will always save me --DT, Scarred (see Romans 10:9-13)
Melody walks through the door and memory flies out the window
and nobody knows what they want 'til they finally let it go --DT,
6:00 (see Matthew 10:34-39)
Am I ever gonna change, will I always stay the same
say one thing,then I do the other
same old song, goes on forever
rise, rise n'shine, a new day is coming
yes it is --Extreme, Who Cares? (see Romans 7:17-25)
cRap Musi is an oxymoron. (with apologies to Rush & Extreme)
^ |
|________|
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Date: Fri, 05 May 1995 21:34:00 +0900
From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQmc2PyEhMm1HNxsoQg==?=
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: James LaBrie's birthday
Message-ID: <199505051242.VAA05650@inetnif.niftyserve.or.jp>
Today (May 5th) is James LaBrie's birthday, so
I'm going to sing happy birthday song for him.
Happy Birthday to James, happy birthday to James,
Happy Birthday dear James LaBrie,
Happy Birthday to James...
I wonder what he's doing for now, maybe in
the studio for recording "A Change of Seasons"...
I hope everything is going well with DT.
Take care everyone.
Bye for now.
Masa at QZE13533@niftyserve.or.jp
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Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 09:53:53 -0400
From: eparr@vt.edu (Eric)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Temporary sign-off
Message-ID: <m0s7NpP-00030CC@donews.cts.com>
Hey!
Great internet conference!!! I enjoyed it while I was on.
Unfortunately, my college graduation is taking me on to bigger and better
things, in more exotic locations! For this reason, I would like to remove
my address from your conference list. You can bet though, that when I get
settled in my new location, I will be sure to get back on. Thanx!
eparr
Eric
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Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 15:15:33 +0100 (BST)
From: Jeremy Longley <jcl1008@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Bass on 6:00
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950505150019.22419A@puce.csi.cam.ac.uk>
On Fri, 5 May 1995 ytsejam@arastar.com wrote:
(sorry, can't remember who posted this!)
>
> [ I'm doing a six string scheme just to be a smartass, although you
> DON'T need a six string to pull this one [although it could be that
> John is using his low B because it is a E pentatonic after all -
> depends on his mood I guess] ]
>
> C |---------------------------------------------------------------------|
> G |---------------------------------------------------------------------|
> D |---------------------------------------------------------------------|
> A |------7-5-7-5-7-----7-5-7-5-7-5-7-----7-5-7-5-------5-----5-----5----|
> E |--0-------------0-----------------0-----------7-5-7---5-7---5-7------|
> B |---------------------------------------------------------------------|
>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
well, yeah, you can play it like that if you want to be boring.. This is
an amazing phrase, and its the ending which really makes it. John has two
endings two this phrase which he alternates [and (having watched him play
this live) he DOES use the B string..] He might even play the open Es at 5
on the B string, I couldn't tell.
> A |------7-5-7-5-7-----7-5-7-5-7-5-7-----7-5-7-5--------------5-----5---|
> E |--0-------------0-----------------0-----------7---7-10-5-7---6-7-----|
> B |------------------------------------------------8--------------------|
> A |------7-5-7-5-7-----7-5-7-5-7-5-7-----7-5-7-5--------------5---5-7---|
> E |--0-------------0-----------------0-----------7---7-10-5-7---7-------|
> B |------------------------------------------------8--------------------|
^^^^^^
I only have a 4-string Bass, and find this quite a stretch. there are 3
4-string alternatives that I can see:
D |--------------------------------0--------------------
A |------5---or-----2-5----or----2----------------------
E |--3-7----------3------------3------------------------
The first involves a 4 fret reach which I find hard at speed. The second
is easier, but then you have quite a nasty position change for the second
3-note phrase. The third way gives you time for the position change by
using the open D string, but I have to use three fingers on my right hand
to pull this one off, which isnt easy, and there are the inherent
problems with using an open string in a fast riff.
Which way do you fellow bassists out there do it? I'd be really
interested to hear. Now back to working out the bit during the "inside
coming outside" section...
Cheerz, Jezza
_ _ jcl1008@ The way your heart sounds makes all
(_)___ ________ _| | cam.ac.uk the difference; it's what decides if
| / -_)_ /_ / _` |_| Jeremy Longley you'll endure the pain we all feel.
_/ \___/__/__\__,_(_) Selwyn College The way your heart beats makes all
|__/ Cambridge The difference in learning to live.
^`'~*-,._.^`'~*-,._.^`'~*-,._.^`'~*-,._.^`'~*-,._.^`'~* - Dream Theater.
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Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 10:35:25 -0400
From: miker@atn.com (Mike Rashas)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: The King and Vai
Message-ID: <199505051435.KAA09010@voyager.atn.com>
Aviad Hay <aviad@kids-mail.huji.ac.il> writes:
>BTW: Has anyone taken notice to the cool riff John is playing on the
> Intro of 6:00? As a tablature it will go like this:
Yes! As a matter of fact, I actually "took the time" (uh-oh...DT pun
alert!) last night to start learning some of the King's lines (instead of
just listening to, and absorbing, them...slouch that I am), and that was the
first song I had tried to tackle (with some measure of success).
Technically, not extremely difficult, perhaps, but OH SO GOOD...
>[ Imagine this to be a nice,shinny,smooth red Tobias Basic 6 that has
> been touched and blessed by the king... ]
>
Oh boy...don't I wish...but still, for that song, the aforementioned Kubicki
Factor does quite well, for the most part...
>I personally think it's a really nice riff - John P join The King
>on this riff at the verso - but we all know the king does it best
>with Portnoy as a bass&drums session. (Don't get me wrong - Petrucci
>= the best guitarist on the statosphere).
>Praise The King!
Amen! And yes, Mr. Petrucci has managed to impress me with his six- (or is
that seven- ?) string prowess more than anybody else in recent times...while
I tend to avoid the "best/worst" tags, I just get the feeling the man can
play anything (and convey any emotion) that he damn well pleases...
Also, thanks in advance to Bafu Vai for your valiant effort (yet to come) in
deciphering the spoken parts in "SDV"...I mean, I can make some of them out
(like the part about "180 degrees in Houston, but it's a DRY heat", and some
others), but still...their relevance does escape me. (Yuh, like everything
has to be relevant...)
BTW, methinks my signature got screwed up on my last post...(Popeye voice)
"Oh, how embarrasking..." That's what happens when you try to plug your
band and get all carried away... :)
Peace, love, and the pursuit of low frequencies,
********************************
* *
* Michael Rashas *
* miker@atn.com *
* "Have bass, will travel" *
* *
********************************
JJJJJ U U I CCC EEEEE
J U U I C E
J U U I C EEE
J J U U I C E
JJ UUU I CCC EEEEE
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Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 11:06:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: ROSS666
Message-ID: <199505051506.LAA26307@opal.cs.brandeis.edu>
> From: Steve Borzilleri <silenzio@elwha.evergreen.edu>
> Subject: Re: ROSS666
>
> To AirDance@aol.com: I find it extremely distasteful to put someone's home
> address on a mailing list without their consent. Please tell me you
> actually talked to this person and asked them what was up before you put
> their home address on the Ytsejams for hundreds of people to mail to, or
> flame the hell out of via their America Online address.
Until you actually realize what this person did... He was _SELLING_
the Kevin Moore Demos, which were, by the entire distribution system,
dubbed and meant to be give for the COST OF A TAPE. This disclaimer
was also included with every copy of the demos made, and I find what
Ross did to be EXTREMLY shameful.
> This happened with that Jeremy fellow, and what really stunned me was that
> the guy who HAD his number didn't try CALLING him first. Instead, he threw
> Jeremy's home phone number up on this list so that the world could call
> him. Did anyone ever find out what happened with him or are we still
> calling him to tell him he sucks and writing him hate mail? Yes, I know he
> screwed a lot of people, but personally I would try to establish contact
> myself and TALK to him and see what's up before doing something like this.
>
And, as someone (I think Pat Daugherty) said, he no longer has the one
email address, has CHANGED his phone number to an unlisted number, and
no longer replies to his Compu$erve address... I think that is a
pretty good sign that he is a low-life and doesn't deserver the
defense that he is being given.
--
+----------------------------------------+----------------+---------+
| And I'll smile and learn to pretend | Dream Theater | Michael |
| And I'll never be open again | Space Dye Vest | Burstin |
| And I'll have no more dreams to defend |-----Awake------+---------+
| And I'll never be open again | Let's Go Pens |
+----------------------------------------+--------------------------+
For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
http://cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/home.html
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Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 12:26:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: stuff
Message-ID: <199505051626.MAA22280@rpc36.gl.umbc.edu>
Mornin' everyone!
OK, all this talk about light years, and billion billion miles and stuf like
that is great, but can anyone tell me what a parsec is? Or answer me this:
What's bigger: 1 astonomical unit?
1 light year?
1 parsec?
Thanks for the great Mike Portnoy article in the last Jam--very informative.
Wouldn't it be great to see DT all switch instruments for a song or 2?
All this talk about the voice as an instrument is cool. I'm sure many of the
singers out there sympathize with eachother, knowing that we live in a world
where people say, "Oh, you're a singer...but do you play any instruments?"
or, "you sound like crap--what's wrong w/ you today?" Present company is
excluded of course. ;) At least for me, it's pleasantly surprising to see so
much _respect_ for the voice as an instrument. It's so hard for the inexper-
ienced musician to see that the voice is not only an instrument as much as
a guitar or a drum, but that it's probably the most idiosyncratic instrument
of them all <except for, maybe, the tube guitar amp!>. It would be nice if
we could just switch to another larynx, or step on a pedal to change or
correct our instrument, but that's not possible. But it's nice to see so
many intelligent people who _understand_ that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<"...Thought disorder; ___ ___ ___ _ _ ___ ___ "Balls and chunk is >
<Dream control. Now | __||_ _|| __|| V || __| |_ | where it's at." >
<they read my mind on |__ | | | | __| \ / | __| / / --Mike Portnoy, LiT >
<the radio...But where|___| |_| |___| V |___| |___|"I think SpontanUity!">
<was the Garden of Eden?" szebro1@gl.umbc.edu --John Petrucci, X103>
<--John Petrucci, Voices Radio Show>
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 11:26:52 -0500 (CDT)
From: A Humble Dream Theater Fanatic <polzin@glibm11.cen.uiuc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: DT Tape
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.90.950505112157.19622A-100000@glibm11.cen.uiuc.edu>
I have to admit i had the same idea. Only i dont own a tape player so i
could only think about it. But the point is, i was just thinking up what
the best set list for a DT concert would be. Here's what i came up with:
Pull Me Under
Caught in a Web
A Fortune In Lies
The Killing Hand
YTSE Jam
Scarred
Metropolis
To Live Forever
A Change of Seasons
(the final show would be done with a special return of Kevin :)
Wait for Sleep
Eve
Only A Matter Of Time
On Fri, 5 May 1995, Kevin R Laferriere wrote:
> I put some songs on tape tonight, and here's how it is:
>
> Side 1
> - The Ytse Jam
> - Caught In A Web
> - A Fortune In Lies (Live)
> - Scarred
> - Pull Me Under
> - Light Fuse And Get Away
> - Wait For Sleep
>
> Side 2
> - Erotomonia
> - Voices
> - The Silent Man
> - The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun
> - The Killing Hand (Live)
> - Innocence Faded
> - End of IF (the instrumental rules!)
>
> Kevin Laferriere
> laferrie@usmcs.maine.edu
> http://www.usmcs.maine.edu/~laferrie
>
>
Ed Polzin
WWW: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~polzin/
polzin@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu
polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu
polzin@par0060.urh.uiuc.edu
polzin@ripco.com
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Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 21:01:21 -0400
From: WarrenDW@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: LaBrie and Blue Murder
Message-ID: <950504210000_107214670@aol.com>
When DT was here in Portland OR in November I was talking to John ( guitar
god ) Petrucci about his effects rack etc and I said that John Sykes ( Blue
Murder ) had a great wah-wah sound and he was using the same unit that JP was
using. In the course of the conversation John told me that James was going to
do some backing vocals on Blue Murder's next album. Does anyone have any
more information about this? John did not say when this was going to happen
but it sounded like a ' done deal '.
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Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 11:10:14 MST
From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re. Hi, Again!
Message-ID: <10168BC4021@UCS.ISU.EDU>
>Ausgezeichnet (for all you German speakers)! Queensryche is always
>welcome (maybe you could substitute 'Someone Else?' for Ugly Kid Joe
>[please!!!!! :> ]-- flex the ol' piano chops!)
I'm still learning this one, I really won't finish it until I hear
the full=band version. I'm getting the CD today! (YES!) We might
play it, too.
>Under a Glass Moon
>Wait For Sleep --- Guess Who?
>(Me on keys! YES!)
>The Silent Man
>up-- it should be a pretty cool show! One question, though: whose
>role will you be filling on the DT numbers? John P., John M., or
>Kev/Derek's?
For UaGM, I'm gonna fill in the bass part. We're gonna try it out
without keys, and skip the key solos. If that doesn't work, I'm
gonna program them and kick everyone ass to follow along right.
We're only a three-man band, and we're recruiting a temporary singer,
perhaps he can sing for us all of the time, but we're trying him out
first.
For Wait for Sleep, I play the keys. I'm still working on it, too.
For The Silent Man, I play the guitar. The bass and stuff will be
filled in by my guitar player and drummer, who'll have nithing better
to do. :P
Chuckulupugus
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Date: Fri, 05 May 1995 09:52:47 -0500 (EST)
From: Alex Lifeson <TRMD@grove.iup.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: To Live Forever on SUBCON
Message-ID: <01HQ51GMV7PK91X2SS@grove.iup.edu>
I would have to say that this version of To Live Forever was originally
done at normal speed, but was speed up in the process of recording, or
re-recording. You can tell, because everything is raised one half of a step.
This is noticable because of the open e and b string up top, which are sounding
f and c, respectively. This would explain James girlish squealing.
On the topic of TLF, someone said that at the end, the bombing thing,
was done by Kevin, I can believe this, but I still think it sounds like James.
Anyone know why this was done? Just to throw in a little reason to NOT live
forever, aka the end of the world due to nuclear bombing. Or something.??
briaN M eichorN
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"Just another dreamer, with a plastic guitar..." - Rush, refering to me
This is my mail.sig file. I hope you like it.
YAY. Rush rules. As does Genesis.
Dream Theater ain't so bad, neither.
"If you goal is to win, and you don't, you lose;
If your goal is to do your best, and you do, you win"
- some 'important' guy
"If your goal is to win, and you don't, you lose;
If your goal is to conquer the world, and you do, you win"
- Me
"A new Rush album is like a box of chocolates - you never know
what you're gonna get..." - Me (boy, I am a thoughtful Philosopher)
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Date: Fri, 5 May 95 19:13 BST-1
From: mtiplady@cix.compulink.co.uk (Mark Tiplady)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: STOP PRESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-ID: <memo.118791@cix.compulink.co.uk>
Hi everyone,
I have some newsbites that may be of interest. These are provided courtesy of
the wondrous Neil Elliot and his fabulous Images And Words fanzine (issue 6
slammed onto my doormat this morning).
1). To all the UK jammers - the band will be returning to the UK in July for a
mini tour over a period of ten days. They'll play about 5 or 6 shows in
various venues around the country. No further details as of yet.
2). A Change Of Seasons will be accompanied by 2 tracks from the Ronnie
Scott's 'Uncovered' show, together with the studio versions of Eve and To
Live Forever.
3). The Silent Man will be released in the UK in July to coincide with the mini
tour. Extra tracks will be from the Ronnie Scotts gig.
4). There is a possibilty that MTV will be broadcasting around 40 mins of the
Uncovered show on Headbanger's Ball in the near future.
Mark.
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Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 15:05:20 -0400
From: mjgundry@mtu.edu (Matt Gundry)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: re: The Mirror GUITAR Rythm
Message-ID: <199505051905.PAA27499@mtu.edu>
Yep, the guitar would sound like a simple, repeating three note rythm
figure, regardless of how it fits with the drums and bass parts. That is the
key to "polyrythms", keep one rythm constant and change the "counter-rythm".
That is the best that I can describe what is happening. Anyone else?
Later
Matt Gundry
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Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 16:08:02 +0500
From: jjens@site.gmu.edu (John Jens (CS 112))
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: distances and voice; no DT content
Message-ID: <9505052008.AA25264@arsenic>
Steve Z et al:
1 parsec (pc) = 3.26 ly = 206265 AU's = about 20 trillion miles
1 light year (ly) = distance light travels in 1 year; about 6 trillion miles
1 Astronomical Unit (AU) = distance between the Earth and the Sun; about 8 light
minutes
size of our Galaxy = 30,000 pc
Distance to:
the Moon- 1.5 light seconds
the Sun- 8 light minutes
the outer solar system - about one light day
the nearest star, Alpha Centuari - about 4 light years
the Andromeda galaxy - about 2 million light years
and don't forget that 2 where E is energy, m is mass, c is speed of light
E=mc
hehehe :)
(2 semesters of Astro helps ;)
so, to answer Steve Z's Q, 1 parsec is a bigger distance than 1 ly or 1 AU.
but 1 astronomical unit is a bigger number of letters than 1 parsec or 1 light
year. hehe
what do i win?? ;)
about the voice as an instrument: i've always held that it takes genuine talent
to sing. almost anyone can be taught how to play an instrument but one must be
born w/ the talent to sing. it takes training in order to shape and refine the
voice but the initial talent must be there. unfortunately i missed the line
where talented vocal chords were being given out so i'm stuck squaking. oh well.
guess i'll go play bass now...or should i study for my calc final? nah...
later,
-john
::::::::::John C. Jens, Jr.:::::::::::::::::::"You could make a choice,::::::::
:::::::::::jjens@gmu.edu:::::::::::::::::::::but you never learned to think."::
::http://www.site.gmu.edu/~jjens/:::::::::::::::::::-Fates Warning:::::::::::::
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Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 01:17:34 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: What's Subcon Like?
Message-ID: <199505050817.BAA00290@bud.indirect.com>
> For those who have already received Subcon, what's it like? Which
> songs are the best? Better yet, I would like to see an in-depth review
> from someone of each song (Well, if anyone has the time).
Me too! Those of you who are gifted in a verbose way, please,
tell everyone what you think of ALL of Subconscious! :)
Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com
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Date: Sat, 6 May 95 1:03 +0300
From: Aviad Shkolnikov <shkola@kids-mail.huji.ac.il>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Mr. Portnoy - reflections...
Message-ID: <m0s7VXh-0000MSC@crash.cts.com>
Hello there. This is my first posting, so exuse the bad quality...
Mike Portnoy seems to be most talked about young player out there. Within a
relatively short amount of time he managed to get a coverage in MD (modern
drummer magazine), headline a series of clinics (although saying for
himself that it wasn't exactly his ideal of a fun time...), get an
endorsing contract with both Mapex and Sabian and get what seems to be a
world wide recognition.
He seems like a nice guy, too, judging from watching him present the MTV
Headbangers ball a few weeks ago.
But all of that really seems unimportant when one is listenning to the
man play. And oh, boy, does he play! The guy just can't get enough of
those tastfuly placed hi-hat rolls, those intricate ride-cymbal patterns,
and of course his all around control of odd-time rythms and extremely
cool double bass beats from hell (didn't really like his sound on
"Images and Words, though...).
Of course, his influences are obvious. He sits on the lap of Peart, while
pulling off those machine-gun like tom-tom fills, or on Terry Bozzio's, when
incorporating his "playing against the beat", for instance.
Let's not forget his tasteful fusion-like licks on Take the Time.
What a classic.
But I can't help but ask myself - would Mike have done equaly well, if he
wasn't confronted with matching musical concepts from his band mates?
Would he have done equaly well as a studio player, or supporting someone
else on tour?
Just don't know. You see, the magic of DT is their, well, togetherness (I
just invented a word there). Their playing together, and their
cooperative music. I've heard the other day that Kevin Moore is doing NIN
like stuff. We all know that Trent Reznor is god (he is!), but he's no DT.
BTW, anyone please pass the word to the guys in the band -
DT MUST COME TO ISRAEL!
Thanks, bye.
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* "We went shoping for God, *
* and got the God of Shoping..." *
* Galiano *
* *
* "Can't you see thre's only one me *
* And that me is me." *
* Faith No More *
* *
* - Aviad Shkolnikov IS a cool name! *
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Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 12:09:16 -0500 (CDT)
From: nguyen john t <jtnguyen@cs.twsu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: CHANGING SEASONS TOUR '95?
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950505120608.8881C-100000@emcity>
Hello JAMMERS!
My friend and I have this thing going where we come up with our ideal set
list for The Boys' tour that will promote their upcoming EP. Here's
mine, and my friend's list will be sent later.
Total show time: two 3/4 hours (not including intermission), no opening
band. Hey, Metallica played for 3+ hours on their An Evening with
Metallica show!
Tour consists of 20+ American dates, in promotion of
their long awaited EP!
6:00 (6:00)
Metropolis (10:00)
Metropolis II (9:00)
Innocence Faded (6:00)
BASS SOLO!!!!!!! (3:00)
Lifting Shadows... (6:00)
Eve (5:00)
Scarred (12:00)
------Intermission------
Take The Time (11:00)
(big jam at the end (ie - PPV))
Caught In A Web (7:00)
( with drum solo)
Another Day (12:00)
(fade into guitar solo, then
a keyboard solo)
The Mirror (7:00)
Lie (7:00)
Change Of Seasons (20:00)
---------Encores--------
Ytsejam (6:00)
Maybe more off the EP
we don't know about yet! (6:00-10:00)
A Mind Beside Itself (23:00)
So what do YOU think? This would be interesting to see . I'm eagerly
awaiting their next tour. I know I will get lots of shit for excluding
PULL ME UNDER, maybe you can replace Lifting Shadows... with PULL ME
UNDER. But either way, I think that innocence faded is a great song. It
has a great instrumnetal ending which could segue very nicely into
Myung's long-over-due solo. In turn, that would lead very nicely into
Lifting Shadows... but I guess if PULL ME UNDER could replace that. The
way I see it, I think that DT show will become too predictable if we can
expect to hear certain songs every time around. They've played that song
a lot, but I think songs that they never or rarely play deserve to be
heard! Anyway, hope you'll like this list as much as I do.. Later,
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Don't turn your back
and slam the door on me --- Neil Pert
JOHN NGUYEN
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