YTSEJAM Digest 1107
Today's Topics:
1) Let's make the concert-going experience better
by Elliott Kim <ekim01@fiu.edu>
2) ***ATTENTION ALL PHILADELPHIA AREA JAMMERS***
by 191547620@UCIS.VILL.EDU (Stefan T. Rau)
3) AD Review - time to inflat Mike B.'s ego ;)
by SaVeur <jjens@gmu.edu>
4) MASTERMIND *Could* Open for DT in Dec.
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
5) Girl and Stuff
by laussade@enet.net (Ktulu)
6) Tea Party
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu>
7) hic...
by Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
8) Religion? Please no.
by Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
9) Kevin Moore
by roland.theysohn@protel.de (Roland Theysohn)
10) Give us shelter...
by James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
11) Trey's #ed comments
by tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen)
12) Another YtseConvention
by tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen)
13) Re: IRC DT Room
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu>
14) to Kobayashi German art.
by Kris Claerhout <100522.625@compuserve.com>
15) Re: Give us shelter...
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu>
16) **IMPORTANT** AD dubsite list
by Jean-Francois_Cote@INRS-SANTE.UQuebec.CA
17) Re: IRC DT Room
by coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
18) Re: IRC, advice about Pine
by coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
19) Re: DT Info
by coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
20) Getting into prog music
by Dan Tshin <dtshin@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
21) Cool drum parts
by happe@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU
22) Avant Garde
by Michael.Bradley@mail.trincoll.edu (Michael Bradley)
23) Re: Various DTC
by Jeff Hochberg <hochbj@Sage.EDU>
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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 00:23:00 -0500 (EST)
From: Elliott Kim <ekim01@fiu.edu>
To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Let's make the concert-going experience better
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.951103233610.19480D-100000@serss1>
Hey,
I've gotten an overwhelming response from Florida area Ytsejammers. I
think we can all consolidate our efforts at getting up to see the show on
the 29th. There is talk of a Ytse-Caravan from Florida. From the looks
of it, there are about ten people from the Sunshine State attending the
Dec 29th show in Old Bridge, NJ. All the Florida Jammers can get their
own little section and a huge sign that says "Florida" - kind of like the
Democratic or Republican National Conventions.
1.> Name Tags - It would be nice to be able to easily identify each and
every Ytsejammer. Some Ytsejammers probably don't plan on buying
t-shirts, so a name-tag could identify them as a jammer, while some
people like BABS just plain refuse to wear theirs. :)
2.> Was there talk of getting together before/after the Birch Hill show?
Let me know if I missed it and fill me in.
3.> We might all want to get a coordinated effort together to print out jams
for Mike Portnoy. Someone can be elected to print out jams 1100-1105,
someone else can do 1106-1110, etc etc. That will eliminate duplication
and Mike will have tons of jams to read. If enough people are interested
in doing this, I'll work out the details and volunteer to print out some.
If this project does get implemented, PLEASE try to conduct yourselves
normally as if you all didn't know that your words will be seen by
Portnoy. (though no one will complain if the posts got genuinely more
intelligent because Portnoy will see it.)
It would really suck if we started getting 6 or 7 jams a day again, but
this time around, 6 or 7 jams full of one-liner "Hi Mike!"'s and the
resulting complaints. I trust each and every one of you to use your
discretion. If a Jammer pounds out a brilliant post and includes a _very
short_ hello to Mike, that should be okay. I don't want to be the one
responsible for an avalanche of jams and unsubscribes. Even Bafu Vai
has a life, and cannot spend time wading through 6million "Hi Mike!"'s.
I wonder how he maintains his formidable piano and guitar chops
(perfectly executed/articulated 16th note runs at 190bpm!) AND finds
time to write up the crazy shit he's known for. (not to mention
schoolwork)
--<Elliott Kim>--<ekim01@fiu.edu>--<Florida International University>--
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 21:55 EST
From: 191547620@UCIS.VILL.EDU (Stefan T. Rau)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: ***ATTENTION ALL PHILADELPHIA AREA JAMMERS***
Message-ID: <m0tBaFB-0000LTC@donews.cts.com>
Greetings, everyone!! I have a HUGE favor to ask of some kind-hearted
Philadelphian on the list. I just got myself a ticket to the 12/29 Birch
Hill show, and I find myself with no way to get there, so I really really
need someone to take pity on me and give me a lift. I live right outside
Philly (Lansdowne, PA, in case anyone' ever heard of it), so if you're
going to this show, I could make arrangements to meet you about anywhere
in the Philly metropolitan area. I will be eternally grateful to anyone
who can help me out here......this will be my FIRST time to see DT, so I
don't want this ticket to go to waste for lack of transportation.....
Thanks in advance,
--Stefan Rau 191547620@ucis.vill.edu
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 23:38:09 -0500
From: SaVeur <jjens@gmu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: AD Review - time to inflat Mike B.'s ego ;)
Message-ID: <199511040438.XAA15267@reactor.site.gmu.edu>
hey folx,
first off, thanks to MIKE BAHR! for Acoustic Dreams. this disc roolZ! the
sound quality beats every boot i've ever heard -ok, so i only have SubCon
and the InstruMentals :) i agree w/ whomever said AD tops WDaDU
production-wise. the cover is really kool. kudos to "George Fan". and onto
the songs:
~ AD ~ still not sure if i like how James sings here. very
~ LS ~ wow. the John's smoke this one. i like it.
~ WfS ~ kool. again, the John's shine brightly. i almost like it better than
the IaW version.
~ SM ~ eh, similar to Awake so my feelings are similar. givin' the correct
mood it's kool.
~ LIE ~ oh yeah! this kicks. i think i'll learn this on bass. Mike, put that
tamborine down. ahhh...thank you. ok, bongos...kool...damnit, there's that
tamborine again. oh well ;)
~ Tears ~ i definately know i like James better than Geddy.
~ OHN ~ is it Christmas yet?
~ PS ~ did someone learn how to work the stereo pan? :) Bruce gives it that
nice British feel. i still hear the basic feel of Ytse Jam in there. you
know the part, dunn dundundun dun-dun-dun dun-dun-dun dunn
dundundun-dundundun.....
~ 6 ~ kinda raw compared to Awake version. keys solo different? "inside
coming outside" part extended 1 time.
~ CiaW ~ let's bury James in reverb and push him back into the mix ;) i miss
the vibraslap (right after the guitar solo) in the Awake version hehe
~ Voices and Bad ~ someone tell that damned audience to StFU!!!! i'm tryin
to listen!!
welp, once again, Mike puts out a truely great cd. good job! and consider
this my formal request for 2 WDaTU.
like my .sig for the bandwidth-impaired? ;)
-john YJLHB SubCon#397 AD#242 jjens@gmu.edu
http://www.site.gmu.edu/~jjens/
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:30:23 PST
From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: MASTERMIND *Could* Open for DT in Dec.
Message-ID: <9511040530.AA24027@tengs1.teng>
The following is some email I exchanged with
Bill Berends of MASTERMIND today:
>Also, are you going to be playing anywhere in
>New York from the Dec. 27- Jan. 3? A friend and
>I are flying in to see a friend. Incidentally,
>we're taking him to the DT concert at the Malibu
>on Long Island on the 27th.
Well, the good news is we *might* be opening one (or more) of the Dream
Theater shows in December, the bad news is, I don't know yet! I've been
talking with their (ex) manager Jim Pitulski, and he said he'd have ask
Mike Portnoy if it was cool - if it goes over with Mike, then we're on. I
expect ot hear back from him about it soon. Hopefully it'll work out, I'll
let know know ASAP. You're coming out from CA for a visit? Enjoy!
<<and, later>>
>I can't imagine why he *wouldn't* want
>you guys to open for them.
Me neither, but I haven't been able to get in touch with Jim Pitulski the
last few days, so hopefully I'll know more by next week. He says Mike is
really cool though and doesn't see a problem - but you never know!
>Do you mind if I forward this "rumor"
>to the ytsejam list? I would make a
>lot of people very happy !>)>
Sure, go ahead, it might help get them moving on it if they thought there
was an interest! Another show in the works - Electric Factory Concerts of
Phila. has promised us the opening slot for Jethro Tull when they come to
town. I believe we can count on them as they did get us the gig with John
Wetton as promised.
Wish us luck and thanks again for your interest! Hopefully we'll meet up in
December.
Bill
________________
Incidentally, if anyone hasn't checked out MASTERMIND, yet,
you're missing out. Imagine a kind of like heavy-metal ELP.
They just had a release _Tragic Symphony_ (which I still have
to order...)
'jam on,
Zach
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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 00:13:09 -0700
From: laussade@enet.net (Ktulu)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Girl and Stuff
Message-ID: <199511040713.AAA10697@maple.enet.net>
>You said she was holding something besides the mirror. I still have my
>cd longbox from I&W so I examined a pretty big picture, as opposed
>to a tape cover. All I see is the mirror. There is a purple ribbon
>on her nightgown and its close to her hand. It could look like she was
>holding it.
That's what it is. My mistake.
Visit the DT Chat Room. YOu can talk to ME. I bet your REAL
escited now! BTW, I'm Cthulhu.
Ben Laussade
laussade@enet.net
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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 02:34:04 -0500 (EST)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Tea Party
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.951104023141.214112A-100000@moose.uvm.edu>
Has anyone heard of this band the Tea Party? I've ehard them on the
radio here & there. They sound real interesting, but I don't know if I
want to buy the CD after only hearing 1 song. Zep riffs ala _Presence_,
but angrier, with a cool synth sound doubling the bass and guitar, and
kind of an Eddie-Vedder-meets-Mike-Patton type singer. Any recommendations?
-Chris
<#@$%&*%#$&(#@!$^(&^%@!%^&*():$%#!=@!#%+^%&~$!$%^*)^#$!#$%&*(+^%!\^%&*;$%^>
My parents went to Aruba
and all I got was this lousy
cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu .sig file. http://www.uvm.edu/~cmerlo
<#@$%&*%#$&(#@!$^(&^%@!%^&*():$%#!=@!#%+^%&~$!$%^*)^#$!#$%&*(+^%!\^%&*;$%^>
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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 01:08:15 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: hic...
Message-ID: <199511040808.BAA06038@bud.indirect.com>
Hello folks.
While I thank those of you who are providing the wonderful public
service of posting directions to the december shows... you might as well
just wait and post them in late december, since everyone will be asking
again anyway. :) No harm done, just noticed this...
Am I Mike Portnoy? Don't I wish!! It'd be pretty damn cool, but I
have to level with you all, I'm definitely not The Man. (of course, all
the conspiracy theorists amongst thee will no doubt take that as
definitive proof that I'm the hirsute drummer we all admire.)
The Light Fuse I'm using, for general knowledge, is from Deer
Park from January 1993. The only other public performance of it was in
Pennsylvania, that had James singing. This is for WDATU.
The "Lie" groove works well as the base for instrumental
improvisation. Not only on Acoustic Dreams, but in my own band as well.
I don't know if my rhetorical whimsies so far in this post have
made it clear, but I am totally blasted... completely drunk off my ass.
And enjoying every minute of it. I've had eight... count'em, eight of
those big-ass cans of Fosters' Lager. This is so cool, I'm trippin. It's
been a while since I had nothing important to attend to the morning
after a potential drunkenness. You know, if you get drunk enough, listen
to Tori Amos, and sort of dance slowly with the flow of the melody, it's
really neat, and your knees and elbows feel pretty numb.
> gulp <
So did you all hear about the constipated mathematician? He
worked it out with a pencil. OK, nasty one, I know.
I'm listening to the Back Pain Jam from Subconscious as I kick
back here... boy, I dig this. Derek and John really shine.
Mike Bahr, durnik@indirect.com
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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 01:10:29 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Religion? Please no.
Message-ID: <199511040810.BAA06151@bud.indirect.com>
I just saw a few baiting posts for a potential religious argument
on the Jam. Please don't bite, folks. Religion is one issue upon which we
can be sure we will *never* agree.
I believe in God and in Jesus Christ, but there are many who seek
a different path. I would hope that their path will lead them into the
ultimate reality as surely as I hope mine does for me.
God bless,
Mike Bahr, durnik@indirect.com
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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 95 09:20 MEZ
From: roland.theysohn@protel.de (Roland Theysohn)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Kevin Moore
Message-ID: <m0tBdqC-0002swC@ns.protel.de>
Hi all,
Here is the Translation of the Rock Hard Arcticle.I ll hope it is right.
Coming out of his Exile in New Mexico,where he wents after the split with
the Progressive Kings Dream Theater,Kevin Moore is back in Civilisation.He
is now on the Westcoast where he work with Fates Warning Drummer Mark Z. on
the Material for his solo CD.The Material is going in the New Age
direction.The Prog.Label Magna Carta and other Companies showing
interest,but because the Project just started Kevin wants to wait and see.
That it was.BTW Rock Hard is the best Magazine in Germany IMHO.
Hey Kaoru did you buy it in Japan?
Thats all from good old Germany.Hope it helped you.CU
----Oh no,that is the Kraut from Germany again-----
DONT MISTAKE LACK OF TALENT FOR GENIUS
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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 03:41:19 -0500
From: James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Give us shelter...
Message-ID: <Pine.DYN.3.91.951104033622.27295B-100000@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
Well,
Elliott's idea to go the NJ show has attracted about 10 Florida jammers
now... It looks like we'll be making a ytse-caravan up to the show...
Jammer's in the area: We would love to sleep on your floor... The job
market stinks in Florida and we're all doing this on a tight budget...
(right guys? Trey? Doug?) Any ideas? Help us, please.... :)
E-mail: jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu
or : ekim01@fiu.edu
Thanks guys and gals,
Jay Peele
INFERNO
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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 95 05:03:57 -0500
From: tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Trey's #ed comments
Message-ID: <9511041003.AA09453@junix.ju.edu>
1)
WOW! ACOS was one of the CDs that are on dispay to listen to at circiut
city! They also had teh Silent Man single! Killer Im gonna buy more CDs
there. ACOS was $8.00 and I&Ws and Awake were $11.00!
2)
>
>Ting-ti-ding Ting-ti-ding ....
>
Well if oyur talking about Scarred wouldn't it be:
Ting-ti-di Ting-ti-di Ting-ti-di...
And if you meant YYZ it would be
Ting-ti-di Ting-ti-di Ting Ting Ting-ti-di Ting-ti-di Ting Ting Ting-ti-di...
3)
Has anyone else gotten a message from someone claimeing to be John
Pettrucci's brother. I got this several days ago.
>X-UIDL: 815165444.006
>From: user@cc.wwu.edu
>Date: Tue, 31 Oct 95 08:42:57 0000
>Organization: WWU
>To: tallen@junix.ju.edu
>Subject: (no subject)
>X-Url: http://junix.ju.edu/UsrWebPages/tallen/dt/dt.html
>
>Hey my friend... You have picked a hell of a band. The only problem
>being is that you know nothing about them. I am John Petrucci's brother
>and I think you have exploited him and the rest of the guys. I think
>I'll have him send you a line to fill you in on the reality of Dream
>Theater and what they represent. Cool. No harm done.
4)
>Well, I WOULD like to know more about IVANHOE. All I've seen about them
>is, "Oh God, they're such a cool band! They sound just like Dream Theater!
>Check out their Web page, man!" That's all great, but I don't have wen
>access. Does Ivanhoe have an FTP site where I can d/l the .WAV files from?
I will be glad to send everyone who wants it, e-mail with an attached mime
file of a zipped file of about 2 mins of IVANHOE. Send ME (not the jam) your
addresses and I'll do it in a couple days so all the responses can come in.
5)
>I think if somebody does the toilet paper idea, it should have
>Blind Mellon on it. Of course, who would buy used toilet paper
>(i.e. it already has BM on it)?
>
Ouch!
____________________________________________________________________________
"...Every day there's a constant reminder of all the pleasures we shared
together. Love is not just a passing word, it's a state of heart that goes
on forever..." (Mike Portnoy of Dream Theater)
Trey Allen (T-Stretch) - tallen@junix.ju.edu -
http://junix.ju.edu/UsrWebPages/tallen/home.html
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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 95 05:04:06 -0500
From: tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Another YtseConvention
Message-ID: <9511041004.AA04183@junix.ju.edu>
YtseCon II
Since like all of us are gonna be in the area anyway, why don't we have
another YtseConvention likeon Dec 28th or something. I bet we could get at
least Mike Prtnoy to drop by, if not the whole band. Afterall their latest
album is dedicated to us!
I am not sure who arranged the first one but who ever it was, PLEASE DO IT
AGIAN!!!! If you dont want to for some reason, give me some of the info and
I'll head it up. I want this to happen!
Trey Allen
____________________________________________________________________________
"...Every day there's a constant reminder of all the pleasures we shared
together. Love is not just a passing word, it's a state of heart that goes
on forever..." (Mike Portnoy of Dream Theater)
Trey Allen (T-Stretch) - tallen@junix.ju.edu -
http://junix.ju.edu/UsrWebPages/tallen/home.html
_____________________________________________________________________________
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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 05:51:16 -0500 (EST)
From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: IRC DT Room
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9511040550.A22334-0100000@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu>
For access to YTSEJAM go to a GLOBAL IRC server like irc.colorado.edu or
irc.mo.net that kinda server
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According to the circle of fifths, and the order of sharps and flats:
If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sigs) (i.e.
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major would have
4 sharps.
StatisticZ show that if a person is born with Perfect Pitch, chances are
they will grow up to be a famous...Baseball Player!!! :)
"Just Lighten up and listen to the Music" -Kevin Moore (inside joke)
Eric Moegling: afn22909@freenet.ufl.edu
emoeglin@mail.coin.missouri.edu
NEW HOMEPAGE!!!!
http://www.wezl.org/NuGgeTMaN
fOr MoRE nFo AboUT mE fIngEr: emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu
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Date: 04 Nov 95 06:15:58 EST
From: Kris Claerhout <100522.625@compuserve.com>
To: <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: to Kobayashi German art.
Message-ID: <951104111557_100522.625_JHB79-3@CompuServe.COM>
Hi,
I'm not German but I'll translate this. I speak Dutch, English, French and
German.
Original text:
Hi, I found following article on Germany Rock Hard magazine(September
issue). Would any Germany Ytsejammer like to translate this?
-----
Aus seinem selbstauferlegten Exil in New Mexico, wohin er nach seinem
Ausstieg beiden Prog-Kings DREAM THEATER abtauchte,ist Keyboard magier
KEVIN MOORE in die "zivilisation" zuruckgekehrt. Seine Zelte
aufgeschlagen hat der New Yorker mittler weile an der Westkuste, wo der
Mann zusammem mit Fates Warning-Drummer MARK ZONDER am Songmaterial fur
sein Solo-Ding bastelt, das stilistisch in etwa in die New Age-Ecke
abzielt. Einpaar Campanies, u.a, das Prog-Label Magna Carta, sollen
bereits Interesse gezeigt haben, aber in Sachen Dealswill Moore, dessen
Project immer noch inden Anfangen steckt, vorerst einmal abwarten.
Translation:
After his self inflicted exile in New Mexico, where he moved to after he quit
the prog kings Dream Theater, keyboard magician Kevin Moore returned to the
'civilazation'. He pitched his tents in the New York area on the West Coast
(should be East Coast I think...), where he works together with Fates Warning
drummer Mark Zonder on songmaterial for his new-age sounding solo project.
Some companies, among them prog-rock label Magna Carta, are showing interest,
but Moore isn't considering a deal at this moment because this project is
just in its initial stage.
KRIS
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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 09:01:49 -0500 (EST)
From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: Give us shelter...
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9511040917.A1683-0100000@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu>
In response to James sayin' the job market SuX...AMEN Brother!!!! PLEASE
Help us p00r JammerZ down here!!!
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According to the circle of fifths, and the order of sharps and flats:
If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sigs) (i.e.
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major would have
4 sharps.
StatisticZ show that if a person is born with Perfect Pitch, chances are
they will grow up to be a famous...Baseball Player!!! :)
"Just Lighten up and listen to the Music" -Kevin Moore (inside joke)
Eric Moegling: afn22909@freenet.ufl.edu
emoeglin@mail.coin.missouri.edu
NEW HOMEPAGE!!!!
http://www.wezl.org/NuGgeTMaN
fOr MoRE nFo AboUT mE fIngEr: emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu
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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 95 09:39:22 -0500
From: Jean-Francois_Cote@INRS-SANTE.UQuebec.CA
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: **IMPORTANT** AD dubsite list
Message-ID: <H0000f5f03657342@MHS>
Hello everyone,
Now that Mike Bahr sold all is acoustic dreams CD,
we can start a AD dub site list.
Those of you, AD holder, who wants to dub AD for
the jammers that didn't get the chance or didn't
have the money, e-mail me personnaly and i'm going
to post the list to the jam on regular basis.
I spoke with Trey Allen, the subcouncious dub site manager,
and he agreed that i maintain this list.
Remember, those who wants to dub, that:
1- it's a non-profit project (you can ask money to buy a tape and pay postage)
2- the main goal of this project is to give the occasion to real DT fan to
hear this great CD
3- you may want to trade AD dub for another dub, if possible
4- you must be able to make a good copy of your CD
send me your name and adress:
jean-francois_cote@inrs-sante.uquebec.ca
hope to hear from some of you soon
......................................................................
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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 09:27:23 -0800
From: coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: IRC DT Room
Message-ID: <199511041727.JAA10979@ix2.ix.netcom.com>
You wrote:
>
>> Geez,
>>How come no one's ever in the DT chat room. Doesn't SOMEONE want to
>>
>I tried to go, Ben, but I'm not sure which server the chat room is
>on. Could someone please post information on this - which IRC server
>is #ytsejam on?
Try the netcom host efnet.
Michael C.
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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 09:28:42 -0800
From: coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: IRC, advice about Pine
Message-ID: <199511041728.JAA20091@ix8.ix.netcom.com>
You wrote:
>
>Hello once again, kiddies. Okay, first, can someone e-mail me and
>explain how to use this IRC thing? I tried it once and it confused the
>hell out of me.
Try the Netcom host's EFnet.
Michael C.
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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 09:34:19 -0800
From: coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: DT Info
Message-ID: <199511041734.JAA11376@ix4.ix.netcom.com>
>Here again are the questions:
>1. Which DT album did you buy first and why?
a. I&W.
b. It was the first one I knew about, the next one was WDADU.
>2. What is your favorite DT song?
a. Scarred
>3. What is your least favorite DT song?
a. Space Dye Vest
>4. How old are you?
a. 36
>5. What sex are you?
a. Male
>6. What instrument do you play (if you play)?
a. Drums (24 yrs)
Michael C.
p.s. to those y-jammers who complained about the fat, did I cut out
enough?
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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 13:04:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Dan Tshin <dtshin@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Getting into prog music
Message-ID: <Pine.3.87.9511041333.C14475-0100000@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Some one wrote about getting into prog/metal, etc without much outside
influence....
Well I share that characteristic. I didn't have friends who listened to
rock/metal especially Prog at that time (grade 8/9) I come form a
classically trained piano background. At that time, rap was the "in"music
and I listened to it partly cuz it was cool and I did like it (I still do
today to a certain degree) Nyways, I started getting into real metal. I
don't remember what got me to change, but I started to listen to just
heavy and speed metal. (oh ya... I also listened to the MOST SAPPIEST
stuff ever at that time too!! I know almost all of the Chicago songs by
heart now :) )
After a while, I started picking some "good" music. Saigon Kick, King's
X, Queensryche, Metallica, Van Halen, etc. I kind of want to thank MEAT
magazine for pointing out some good picks. I think from reading a couple
of their reviews, I was persuaded to buy Empire. I think that was about
the extent of any influence I got.
For the most part, I've been exposed to more good music through the
YtseJam. I've got to thank most of the people that are really mature
about their attitudes towards music. Some don't slam other types of music
and they try to get others to try out the stuff they like. I really
appreciate that.
Most of my friends are not really into my type of music, except for the
pop-rock, but I've found zounds of people at U... and on my floor.
Anywze, this is getting long winded, so I'll just end with
DT Roooolz!!!!
___________________________________________________________________________
| Dan Tshin dtshin@novice.uwaterloo.ca |"Love is not just a / |
| Comp Eng. 1A University of Waterloo | passing word; it's a |
| WWW Site: http://www.orbonline.net/~danman | state of heart that goes/ |
| | on forever." -- A Change |
| Shad Survivor: 94 Carleton. "Da Bad Shads" | of Seasons, Dream Theater |
|_____________________________________________|___________________________|
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Date: Sat, 04 Nov 1995 13:36:57 -0600 (CST)
From: happe@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Cool drum parts
Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.951104132109.572547125C-100000@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU>
Hey Ytsejammers....I'm not by any means a drummer nor do I have any
expertise in understanding anything tecnical when it comes to drums. But
I just wanted to share some of my favorite drum parts in Dream Theater
songs. I hardly ever listen to whats going on with the drums (too
focused on the guitar and keys usually), but several times in DT songs
they just jump right out at me. For example, in ACoS, at about 12:00,
Petrucci is playing a pretty simple riff and Portnoy is just playing
along (I'm not a drummer, remember, so bare with me when I try to explain
this) and he just cuts the beat in half while Petrucci just keeps playing
his riff in the same time and according to the same beat. I'm sure this
is not tecnically that difficult for a good drummer, but it has the
effect of making that whole part seem to go in "slow motion." Really
cool! It reminds me of some of Peart's work at the end of Red
Barchetta. I also really like the segue between the second chorus and
the guitar solo of Scarred where the guitar rhythm/time and the drums are
completely different but they eventually catch up with each other so that
they are both playing the same thing. Again I apologize for my horrible
description of these things. I'm a biochemist, not a music theory
major! <grin> I just love when bands can escape the typical 4/4 time
and each of the musicians can break away from the mold, if you will, go
off and do their own thing in the context of the song, and come back and
join the band. It creates such a cool effect and shows the talent of the
musicians. To have such a concept of musical "time" is astounding.
Anyone else ever pick out these parts as their favs?
Rocketboy >>Satellite of Love<<
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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 14:46:04 -0500
From: Michael.Bradley@mail.trincoll.edu (Michael Bradley)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Avant Garde
Message-ID: <v01520d01acc16ebee34a@[157.252.65.110]>
Hey all!
DT rules! If anyone has received Acoustic Dreams in the high 200's,
let me know. Still waiting for #305!! (Obligatory DT content).
Now the important business. Have any of you heard of the group
Avant Garde? They were a prog-rock group who played a lot around the NT, CT
area in the mid-late 80's. Two guitarists, bass, drums and singer. Like
Dream Theater, they were all virtuosos. Amazing double leads, odd
time-signatures, etc. They sounded a lot like DT, but their singer sounded
very Yngwieish. Compared to many 80's groups, they were *very* progressive.
Here's the catch. One of their Shrapnel-esque guitarists changed his name
from Pete Rivers to Rivers Cuomo and joined (drumroll please) Weezer...yes,
Weezer.
I have obatained a *very* rare tape containing their studio demos,
live soundboard recordings and some four-track recordings. It's great if
you ever get into a musical argument with a prog-basher. You can just play
this tape and say, "Look! Even Weezer got their start in prog-rock! Haaa!"
But the playing is very good and interesting because of the Weezer guy.
(You should really hear him on this. It's hard to believe it's the same
guy).
If anyone is interested in this or has heard of Avant Garde, e-mail
me personally. Later guys!
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"So He came Himself in weakness, not in power,
And He sent thee, the creature, in His stead."--James Joyce
-Mike Bradley
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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 13:31:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeff Hochberg <hochbj@Sage.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: Various DTC
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.951104130300.2824B-100000@zeus>
> before the band comes in. (A cue, maybe?) On the Live in Tokyo video that
> I have, Portnoy can be seen clicking together his sticks a split second
> before the band comes in to finish off the song. I thought that this
> little bit of communication and unity of the band was amazing. On some
> bootlegs, you can hear the sticks before the band comes in, too. These
> guys are amazing!
It would be even more amazing if Mike DIDN'T cue other guys by clicking his
sticks together. After the drum solo they could all just close their eyes,
take a deep breath, and tune into each others' psychic energy. After a few
seconds of silence.... BAM! they all come in at exactly the same time. :)
Jeff hochbj@sage.edu
(P.S. - Only 3,463 ACOS's till the Birch Hill show!)
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