YTSEJAM digest 1119

From: ytsejam@arastar.com
Date: Thu Nov 09 1995 - 13:36:24 EST

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 1119

    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1114
     by Keith Wineka <keith@bright.net>
      2) Drum Day
     by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu>
      3) Ronnie Scott's infamous?/ FW ruminations
     by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
      4) Metropolis Watch
     by Jaime Kimpton <jaimekimpton@vwc.edu>
      5) Drum Fill
     by Itchak Schwarzbard <ischwarz@ic.sunysb.edu>
      6) Savatage info. needed
     by Jeff Stewart <stewaj01@condor.stcloud.msus.edu>
      7) Trey's Trivia??
     by Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
      8) Halleluia!!!
     by BURGER KING EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH <jccrowder@postman.harding.edu>
      9) Eve / Ronnie Scotts Video / NDTC
     by jerry@muc.de (jerry)
     10) Acoustic Dream kicks serious Ass!!!!!
     by BURGER KING EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH <jccrowder@postman.harding.edu>
     11) stuff
     by WildKoba@aol.com
     12) DT-alternative?
     by hiw100@psu.edu (Cornholio)
     13) Visual Music
     by laussade@enet.net (Ktulu)
     14) Response to David Kobayashi
     by BURGER KING EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH <jccrowder@postman.harding.edu>
     15) Dub site in Australia?
     by richie@cst.com.au (Richie Teh)
     16) Re: the LatM screamer
     by coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
     17) Rush, RUsh and Dream Theater...
     by IKKLESTICK <TRMD@grove.iup.edu>
     18) YJ #1117
     by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
     19) YJ #1117 (epilogue)
     by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
     20) Japanese Awake
     by EMRST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu

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    Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 15:31:30 -0500
    From: Keith Wineka <keith@bright.net>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1114
    Message-ID: <199511092031.PAA11982@brutus.bright.net>

    >Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 21:48:05 -0400
    >From: augie@unix.asb.com (augie)
    >Subject: Interesting news on Rush

    >I'm not a huge Rush fan, but the news I heard I have to tell you guys.
    >Anyway, someone from the band Rush, I think the lead singer (I know the
    >group so little that I don't even know the members of the group) is doing a
    >side project right now. They did not break up. This is just a side
    >project. The Rush member is making an album with members of the group
    >Primus. I don't see how they are related. It should be interesting to
    >hear this record. Anyway, I also heard on the same report that Rush will
    >come out with their next studio album sometime during the spring.

    The solo release is from the guitarist, Alex Lifeson. :-) The only thing I
    have heard about it is that the lead singer from Skid Row sings on at least
    one track.

    The release date keeps getting pushed back, but this is the latest:

    01/09/96 Alex Lifeson "Victor" ANTH/sor

    The release date for the new Rush is not yet decided:

    +10/96 Rush <title unavailable> ANTH/sor

    And for DT:

    07/96 Dream Theater <title unavailable> ELEK/ka

    And for anyone into Fates Warning:

    05/96 Fates Warning <title unavailable> MBR

    Savatage:

    01/96 Savatage Final Bell (live) ATL/br

    If you find this info interesting (as I do :-)) I highly recommend that
    those interested in new CD releases subscribe to the New Releases Mailing List:

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    All the best,
    Keith

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    Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 15:53:22 -0500 (EST)
    From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu>
    To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: Drum Day
    Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.951109155256.162748E-100000@moose.uvm.edu>

            To anyone that went:

                    How was it?

                                    Richie

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    Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 18:06:08 -0500 (EST)
    From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Ronnie Scott's infamous?/ FW ruminations
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.951109175421.12230B-100000@centipede.rs.itd.umich.edu>

    Just checked out the Electra DT page, and in the article it's got a line
    about the "now INFAMOUS 'Uncovered' tribute show." Did I miss something here?

     Otherwise, I was wondering if there's some subliminal message in FW's
    Ivory Gates of Dreams....after all, when you acronymize the title, it
    ends up as I GOD.....oh never mind
     anyway, thanks for the recommendations, I ordered, and received No Exit
    yesterday, probably would have died before finding it in a record store
    (without requesting it, that is), and it rather kicks butt
    I'd rate it #2 among FW albums behind Parallels

    Suffering through this "Chill of November",
                                            Partha

    p.s.> Hey, thought I might jump in on the "Name that tune" thread
          no, it's not DT, but it does involve dreams, and anyway it a song
          from my childhood...what song does this lyric come from:
              "Funny how your feet in dreams never touch the earth"
                    (think women rockers)
                                        psm

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    Date: Thu, 9 Nov 95 12:20:14 GMT+0000
    From: Jaime Kimpton <jaimekimpton@vwc.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Metropolis Watch
    Message-ID: <m0tDaea-0000HAC@donews.cts.com>

    This server keeps refusing to let me send this, so hopefully it will work
    this time...

    After spending four days fighting with my screwy word processor and hapless
    printer, I finally have issue 11 completed, and it's going to the print shop
    tomorrow. YAAAAAAAAAY!!! (Kermit the Frog voice)

    For any of you who care, this current issue has a couple of ACoS reviews
    (including one from the illustrious Hairball, who actually managed to be
    *concise* for once! <G>), a couple of photos from the YtseCon, Threshold, a
    Henry Rollins spoken word performance (no, it's *not* all Dream Theater
    stuff!), and...
    :cringing as I type::
    Kevin Moore's new demo, _Chroma Key_
    PLEASE READ THE FOLLWING PARAGRAPH BEFORE YOU ALL O BALLISTIC AND START
    POSTING BY THE DOZENS TO ME, THE LIST, AND/OR AIR ANCE!!!!!

    It is NOT, I repeat, NOT available for dubbing. Even I don't have a copy, I
    just got to listen to it. I have absolutely no idea when it *will* be
    available for dubbing, or if it ever will, so PLEASE make note of this and
    don't email either of us or the list, asking how to get a copy - just hold
    your shorts. :}

    Now that I've covered my butt, I will take a risk and post ordering details
    and my address, to cut out the middle man.

    This issue (as with all others) is $1.25 in the US, $2.00 anywhere that
    requires air mail, payable in (well hidden!!!) cash or personal check - no
    money orders, since the campus post office can't cash them.

    Jaime Kimpton
    Virginia Wesleyan College
    Box C-274
    Norfolk, VA 23502
    USA

    Jaime the Dragon

    "Fate is cruel when dreams, like candles, fade..."
    Nevermore, "What Tomorrow Knows"

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    Date: Thu, 9 Nov 95 12:29:13 EST
    From: Itchak Schwarzbard <ischwarz@ic.sunysb.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Drum Fill
    Message-ID: <199511091729.MAA16490@engws3.ic.sunysb.edu>

    A few weeks ago, there was a discussion about a drum fill that appears twice
    in ACOS (I'm not sure the times--once before Another World and again towards
    the end of Another World). Well, today, I was listening to TTT from the LiT
    video and i noticed that MP does something very similar. This happens at the
    end of the chorus right before "Close my eyes,....". Anyway, the questions
    to any Ytsedrummers out there (Ben?) is, is this the same exact drum part?
    I'm pretty sure that it is the same live as on the tape, and it sounded pretty
    identical to me.

    -Its
    P.S. If this post makes no sense, then I'll go home and check the exact times.

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    Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 11:46:32 -0600 (CST)
    From: Jeff Stewart <stewaj01@condor.stcloud.msus.edu>
    To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: Savatage info. needed
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9511091155.A5123-0100000@condor.stcloud.msus.edu>

    Hey Jammers! I picked up Savatage's "Dead Winter Dead" last weekend and
    I must say I'm quite impressed. I had never heard Savatage's music
    before and after the good reviews I read about DWD, I decided to finally
    check them out. Could someone please email me the FTP or WWW address
    that contains the Savatage FAQ and Discography (if one exists). I'd
    really appreciate it! Thanks a bunch!

    _____________________________________________________________________________
    Jeff Stewart | We can hope for the future
    stewaj01@condor.stcloud.msus.edu | But there may not be one.
    stewaj01@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu | --Dream Theater
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    Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 13:05:29 -0500 (EST)
    From: Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
    To: DT List <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: Trey's Trivia??
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9511091331.E84958-0100000@acs4.bu.edu>

            Allrighty Trey, I now you said you're not a theory god, but
    here's my question for you:

    You said the guitar plays a flat2. You said the tune is in a minor key.
    You said the keys play a flat seven with respect to the key signature.
    OK, now here's my question: is the flat 2 on the guitar a half step up
    from the tonic, or from the relative minor? Because the flat seventh
    with respect to the key signature (e.g.- key of C -- b7 is Bb) is the
    same as a flat 2 from the relative minor (e.g.- key of C=key of Am -- b2
    is Bb!!)!! So which one is it?!!

    Later!

    Brian

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    Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 12:41:21 CST
    From: BURGER KING EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH <jccrowder@postman.harding.edu>
    To: YTSEJAM@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Halleluia!!!
    Message-ID: <00999229.2346FE60.213@postman.harding.edu>

         I'm in a teriffic mood today guys, for I have finally received my copy of
    Acoustic Dreams. Right now, I'm gonnaleave the computer lab and listen to it!
    I'll post my own revie when I get the chance.
         
         I know I got ticked by people when they didn't post the number, so I'd
    better follow my own advice. Mine was #309, delivered on Nov. 9, 1995!!!

       See ya'll later,
                Chris "Acoustic Dreams" Crowder

    ********************************************************************************
    * Chris Crowder * Dream Theater, Rush, Alice in Chains, *
    * HU Box #596 * Queensyrche, Genesis, Metallica, *
    * Searcy, AR 72149-0001 * Silverchair, Clint Black, Blues Traveler *
    * * *** and the list goes on *** *
    * <jccrowder@harding.edu> * *
    ********************************************************************************

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    Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 20:04:46 +0100
    From: jerry@muc.de (jerry)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Eve / Ronnie Scotts Video / NDTC
    Message-ID: <v01510100acc69b744696@[193.174.4.141]>

    Hi there,

    The other night while I was listening to the studio version of Eve
    I suddenly had a strange feeling of deja vu. The beginning of the song
    sounds very similar to some piece of music by Angelo Badalamenti (the guy
    that does most of the Soundtracks for David Lynch's movies).
    I just can't put my finger on it, so if anybody on the list could
    please help me out?

    More rumors about the Ronnie Scotts gig video:
    a friend of mine at the record store told me, he heard about
    a release date the week before christmas. Of course this has not been
    confirmed yet!

    NDTC:
    For all you out there interested in Pretty Maids (Jen, Kai..), I just heard
    they got a new live album coming out today (11/9/95).
    It's called Pretty Maids Screamin' Live and includes over 60 minutes
    greatest hits live.

    I've got a problem...
    If any of you 'jammers located in the UK would be so kind and do me a great
    favour, please email me and I'll describe you my problem (not DT related).

    and finally:
    Fuer alle ytsejammer, die der deutschen Sprache maechtig sind (Hi Neil,
    Paul, Andreas ), ich hab eine neue Serie von CD-Kritiken in de.rec.music.misc
    begonnen. Leicht erkennbar am *jm Interpret - Titel* subject.
    Geplant ist ca. eine Rezi pro Woche, jm1 hat sich mit der neuen Anthrax
    befasst.

    read you - jerry :--)

    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    Andreas Schaefer email: jerry@muc.de
    "I am gross and perverted - I'm obsessed and deranged
     I have existed for years - but very little has changed" F.Zappa
    ----------------------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 14:49:26 CST
    From: BURGER KING EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH <jccrowder@postman.harding.edu>
    To: YTSEJAM@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Acoustic Dream kicks serious Ass!!!!!
    Message-ID: <0099923B.079BB0E0.157@postman.harding.edu>

         HELLO!!! Acoustic Dreams is absoulutely awesome. I feel sorry for those
    of you that missed out on ordering this wicked CD! I have now listened to each
    track and love it. And yes, it is much better producing than WDADU, as some
    people have pointed out.

    1. Another Day
              I love this rendition of one of my already favorite Dream Theater
         songs. The little Acoustic twist really adds some serious emotion to this
    track which is present, yet not so obvious in the Images and Words version. I
    love the way that they (Dream Theater) were able to translate this very musical
    and full-sounding piece to an acoustic track, and maintain the fullnss
    necessary for this song's sound. Teriffic Job!!!!!

    2. Lifting Shadows off a Dream
              WOW! That's all I have to say (not really, but it sounds cool)!!
         I liked the Awake version, and from the beginning was one of my favorite
    songs on the album. The Acoustic transition is brilliantly played and is
    seducing in sound. I can't say which version is my favorite, but I'm beginning
    to fall in love with this version of the song. Another great one :)

    3. Waiting for Sleep
              I must admit to liking the album version a little bit better, merely
         because the unique sound of the piano is really needed here. The guitar
    cannot carry a sustained sound like the piano because the same string has to be
    used for the next note, which is really evident in the beginning. A really
    good job, though!! I definitely give it a 9.5!!!

    4. The Silent Man
              Almost exactly like the Awake version, and just as much emotion as
         the album version. It sounds a little purer and untouched and unedited
    than the Awake version. I like the sound. It's really good quality and worth
    a second listen, if not a third or fourth, or hundredth :)

    5. Long Island Expressway
              Is this an original Dream Theater song? It seems to have some
         qualities of Dream Theater's work, but sounds like it is probably a cover.
    I'm not quite sure where that guitar sound comes from, but it sounds pretty
    Spanish in origin. I like it. It adds a new dimension of sound to their
    palette. It's cool.

    6. Tears
              I've always loved this song when performed by Rush on 2112. This is
         a great song, and always screamed out to be covered by Dream Theater with
    someone with a voice like LaBrie. Granted, Geddy Lee's voice is great, but
    James sure gives it a challenge. The sound quality of this recording is
    superior to Rush's 2112, but probably because 2112 was recorded in 1976! I
    really like this song! Another teriffic song :)

    7. O Holy Night
              Puts me into the Christmas spirit :) like nothing else. James hits
         every note so perfectly and beautifully. I wish I had a voice like his.
    This song is played so beautifully it brings a tear to the eye ;) Definite a
    permanent fixture in my CD player around Christmas time from now on. I love
    this performance.

    8. Perfect Strangers
              Hey, don't I already own this song!? Didn't Dream Theater already
         release this song as a cover!? Wait a minute, that isn't James LaBrie!?
    Oh, it's Bruce Dickinson. He sings very well also, IMHO, and does a great job
    on this song. Of course, he should, he sanf it in the original recording.
    nust say I like both versions the same. Exactly the same. Good sound quality,
    sounds exactly like the quality on ACoS!! I'm serious!

    9. Six O'Clock (6:00)
              This version here has a nice, yet different mix that the Awake
         version. It sounds to me like the guitars were definitely brought out
    more in this version. And listen to that bass! WOW!!! IT really shines in
    this recording! Listen to Myung go! Also, you can get a better listen on what
    Petrucci is doing with his guitar. All-in-all, an absolutely teriffic mix.
    Good job Mike!

    10. Caught in a Web
              Used to be one of my favorite songs on Awake, but that has changed.
         Maybe this version will help to interest me again. Once again, the
    guitars are more brought out and are very powerful sounding in the forefront.
    The verse "Caught in a Weeeeeeb!" catches my attention more than the Awake
    version. James's voice sounds purer and less hoarse that when he absolutely
    yells out notes and phrases. I like his voice when it's in that purer mode
    better that when it's in concert mode, but what I would give to see them in
    concert. Rock on!!! Good version!!

    11. Voices
              Kind of dissapointed with this one, but am not surprised. I wish
         that more (alot more) of the song was on it. I happen to like this song's
    changing moods and find it to be an Epic of a song. Only a minute doesn't
    supress my hunger, but I'll live. Somebody tell those people next to the
    recorder to shut their traps!!! Man, there's nothing I hate more than
    inconsiderate people. Well, what little there was was good. BTW, what is that
    scratching sound in the middle of the song? Was it speaker trouble?

    12. Bad
              Pretty good, although sound quality leaves something to be desired.
         Good choice on Mr. Bahr's part to leave Bad and Voices as Bonus Tracks.
    Still, this song is pretty good. I don't know the original version and can't
    comment on comparison, but I like this song now. Good job, Dream Theater :)

         I'll bet that you all are tired or reading this, or maybe some of you want
    to hear more, but it's over. Sorry for going on so long, but I felt that I
    needed to write it. Mine was # 309 for those of you eagerly awaiting your
    copy as I was. If you have it, isn't it teriffic! If you are waiting on it,
    it's WORTH THE WAIT!!! If you didn't order it, I advise you to get with
    someone doing dubs and do it now! You'll regret it if you don't.

         Thanks a whole lot, Mike Bahr, if you're reading this!!!

         Until later guys,
                  Chris Crowder (one happy camper :)
      
     

    ********************************************************************************
    * Chris Crowder * Dream Theater, Rush, Alice in Chains, *
    * HU Box #596 * Queensyrche, Genesis, Metallica, *
    * Searcy, AR 72149-0001 * Silverchair, Clint Black, Blues Traveler *
    * * *** and the list goes on *** *
    * <jccrowder@harding.edu> * *
    ********************************************************************************

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    Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 16:19:48 -0500
    From: WildKoba@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Cc: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: stuff
    Message-ID: <951109161947_17656889@emout04.mail.aol.com>

    to graham: i wish i had your sampling and bonus stuff so i could decode ozzy.
    nice response!!

    now that this ting-ting-tng thing is making me ill, here!!!!!! fuck you all
    (not really, but you know what i mean). guess this??

    dhgkjf otygkfjdh b45iotuiorsag ropu0985u6jt kfdjhglkj df b opfejg desenx
    ghjkl;fhg90587g.r,.=-06-0k6ol6mluj6 s

    guess what opening that is? hint: if you get this right, a)you are on crack,
    b) you have too much time on your hands, or c) you are a huge fan of either
    john cage or goerge crumb.

    ENOUGH!!!!! ARRRRGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!

    thank you. david, the magical kobayashi

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    Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 16:46:53 -0500
    From: hiw100@psu.edu (Cornholio)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: DT-alternative?
    Message-ID: <199511092146.QAA33574@r02n07>

    > alternative band Dream Theater) and Steve Smith (drummer for Journey and
            ^
            |
            |
            |______ WTF!!!!!!!! DOH! how many grunge-heads gonna be there
                                       now! :P

    Technically, DT is alternative music, b/c it is not what you normally hear
    on the radio. It is an alternative to the norm.
    Later mon

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    Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 15:39:31 -0700
    From: laussade@enet.net (Ktulu)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Visual Music
    Message-ID: <199511092239.PAA28341@maple.enet.net>

    >- boom
    >-
    >- ra
    >- ta
    >- tat
    >-
    >- ba
    >- ba
    >- boom tat
    >-
    >-
    >- tat
    >-
    >-
    >- tat
    >-
    >- boom ra
    >- ta
    >- tat
    >-
    >- tssh
    >-
    >- ba
    >- ba
    >- boom

            Take the Time. How about this.....

            POW POW POW POW POW POW pssh! (Just one fill)
                   dada dada dadadum (But a memorable one)
                                     Ben Laussade
                                     <laussade@enet.net.>
                                 "This is not reality"

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    Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 17:41:05 CST
    From: BURGER KING EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH <jccrowder@postman.harding.edu>
    To: YTSEJAM@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Response to David Kobayashi
    Message-ID: <00999253.0282D580.39@postman.harding.edu>

         In response to you, you're not the only person in the world that likes
    "innocence faded", but you may be one of the extreme few that doesn't like
    "Take the Time" or "Surrounded". Sorry dude, on that playing field, you play
    alone.

         Now, I know that there's been alot of crap going on about people talking
    about other bands and their works and some guys getting anal retentive and
    thinking that we should stick to *only DT*. Well, screw that! I was looking
    at a couple of the sample digests in Ed Polzin's WWW page and on a couple of
    them it was nothing *but* stuff about other bands. Really, what do you think
    that kept this list going in the beginning. There wasn't enough stuff by DT to
    keep conversation all the time. Also, some of us, if not most of us, like to
    hear about other bands on the list and what makes people like them, even if it
    has minimal relation to DT. And to "DAVEGOD", you contradictory sack! If in
    one issue you write at the end of your message, "Let's keep it to DT stuff
    (paraphrase)", you can't write your entire next message as "The new Alice and
    Chains comes out tomorrow, **** yeah!" and then bitch about others posting
    about other bands on the list. O.K. That's enough of my preaching, and I know
    that "DAVEGOD" has heard his earful lately.

         Now, I'm goiong to speak about A&C for a sec. To David: It's awesome and
    worth the money. It's harder than Dirt, but still has some softer tracks
    reminiscent of those on Jar of Flies. It's a good mix and a good buy. If you
    can afford it and want it, get it.

           Later,
              Chris

    ********************************************************************************
    * Chris Crowder * Dream Theater, Rush, Alice in Chains, *
    * HU Box #596 * Queensyrche, Genesis, Metallica, *
    * Searcy, AR 72149-0001 * Silverchair, Clint Black, Blues Traveler *
    * * *** and the list goes on *** *
    * <jccrowder@harding.edu> * *
    ********************************************************************************

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    Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 11:06:57 +1100
    From: richie@cst.com.au (Richie Teh)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Dub site in Australia?
    Message-ID: <199511100006.LAA16288@foot.cst.com.au>

    Hi,
            R there any dub site for "Subcon" and AD in Australia? I need to
    get my hands on these babies. Thanks in advance!!
    -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
    -*-*-*
    Richie Teh
    richie@cst.labtam.oz.au
    Software Engineer
    Creative Software Technologies
    Braeside, Victoria, Australia

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    Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 16:24:53 -0800
    From: coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: the LatM screamer
    Message-ID: <199511100024.QAA26318@ix11.ix.netcom.com>

    You wrote:
    >
    >Two quick questions and I'm outta here. #1 - Does anyone else laugh
    >hysterically everytime they listen to Bombay Vindaloo off LatM and hear that
    >guy in the crowd screaming his head off for no reason at all?

    NO! Actually it pisses me off just about everytime. Have some respect!

    Michael C.

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    Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 17:04:15 -0500 (EST)
    From: IKKLESTICK <TRMD@grove.iup.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Rush, RUsh and Dream Theater...
    Message-ID: <01HXG38R2L4I8WX59E@grove.iup.edu>

            First of all, to clear up previous rumors, it is Alex Life sone, the
    guitarist of Rush, who is putting out a solo project with Les Clapool. This is
    scheduled out for January 9th, I believe. I didn't want to write it originally,
    since this is NOT the Rush area, BUT I figured that since it HAS been mentioned
    a few times, I will write it once to clear up any further confusion and
    bandwidth.
            Also, about Awake resembling Rush's hemisphere's, I thought of that the
    first few months htat I heard it. Especially the song Hemisphere vs. AMBI.
    Starts off with an instrumental. Hemispheres is about broken spirits in man,
    whereas AMBI talks just about a mans MIND being torn. Then the last part of
    both songs...accoustic songs, both about a sort of serenity, and peacefulness.
    I think that there are many more similarities, but other may feel free to write.
    What do you think.......Brian Eichorn

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    Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 18:49:42 -0800 (PST)
    From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
    To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: YJ #1117
    Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91j.951109184143.80679B-100000@homer22.u.washington.edu>

    No specific subjects because I'm replying to a bunch of people.

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    > From: WildKoba@aol.com > Subject: some small insignificant observations > > strange. and i sometimes feel like the only person who likes "innocence > faded".

    There's you, and there's Ytse. You know, it only takes two people with a common interest to start a mailing list...

    > bafu: sorry, i forgot that your two friends possess you when they end > up on the jam. maybe I'M the "fucking idiot." ha ha ha.

    Okay, let's get one thing straight right now. *I'M* the fucking idiot. Not you, not Hairball, not Joe Kruger. Me! The one and only!! Bafu Fucking Idiot, of the clan Fucking Idiot!! THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!! :)

    > speaking of dt, anyone hear the new alice in chains yet?? dying to hear > it.

    Yeah, speaking of DT, anyone ever watch that show, "The New Zoo Review?"

    > peace, david, "no relation to kaoru" kobayashi ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Kaoru = Regular Kobayashi David = Magical Kobayashi

    Simple.

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    > From: godfther@netcom.com (godfather) > Subject: Things that make you go hmmm... > >> Chris, you might also want to join my newly founded Bafu Vai >> Appreciation Society. :) > > Someone stopped ----- > > Otherwise known as BVAS, to be pronounced as Beavis... =)

    So do we rival the Elks and Kiwanis yet? :)

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    > From: mike.olekshy@bbs.logicnet.com (Mike Olekshy) > Subject: captn james t. labrie

    Interesting subject heading! I believe a few people on this list thought he was a dead ringer for Data. The REAL question is, what would happen if someone were to remove that squeaky sound the doors make on the Enterprise, and instead rig them to scream "PLEASE DON'T GO!!" everytime someone left the room?

    Or get LaBrie as Captain Piccard. I can just see him pointing from the command chair, doing his mystical on-stage mime-theatrics, "Warp factor THRAAAAAAAYY!!" (sounds like "caught in a WEEEEEEEB!!")

    Spock, on Petrucci's lyrics: "Emminently illogical."

    > "dammit jim, its time to make my aahhhmmmaahhhnndsss!!!"

    Heh! How come I'm the only one with a twisted appreciation-club? :)

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    > From: "'Crimson King' R. Ananda" <spod@u.washington.edu> > Subject: Inanimate objects hate DT

    Inanimate objects? Don't get me started, I know exactly what you mean. You walk into a room, and they just sit there! I hate them, those inanimate objects, ALL of them!! They MOCK ME with their silence!!

    > What I'm getting at here is: has anything even remotely similar happened > to anyone else? Or have I been snared in the slavering jaws of some > anti-DT mischief-making demon? > > --An Aural Hand

    I don't know about anti-DT mischief-making demons, but it does sound like the slavering jaws of a Grue. They don't like DT, you know. They're not much into that "let the light surround you" business.

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    > From: Damon M. Fibraio <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> > Subject: Re: Drumbeat quiz, Ytsemorons

    "Ytsemorons?" That prefix is turning out to have unlimited boundaries.

    Let's see, ytsedrummers, ytsestrummers, ytsecondoms, what else, there must be more...ytsecon, ytseconomics, ytsefrigerator, ytsebear@aol.com, ytseflame, ytsefudge, ytsefeefifofum, ytsebirkenstocks, ytsegermeister...

    Ytsebafu

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    Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 19:04:36 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: YJ #1117 (epilogue) Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91j.951109184945.80679C-100000@homer22.u.washington.edu>

    > From: Matthew Sirois <ms014e@uhura.cc.rochester.edu> > Subject: Dead Winter Dead > > it has that 'Tage feel to it.

    Kind of like how Fates Warning has that 'Ter feel to it. :)

    > Intelligent, beautiful, and it kicks ass too. Everyone should look into > it.

    Yeah, "Species" was a cool flick.

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    > From: Baron Sengir <tsbileci@beta.loyno.edu> > Subject: Idiot, huh? > > I was agreeing with you up to this point. I'd appreciate it if you'd > keep comments like "whoever you are, idiot" off of the 'jam. You called > me an idiot because I simply said that DT fans just need to get past > some of the vocals? I seriously resent that. > > Baron "Fucking Idiot" Sengir > aka Paul

    Look idiot, whoever you are, IIIII am the Fucking Idiot!! So let it be written, so let it be done!!

    "And Davegod said, 'This is the work of a fucking idiot.' And this was not good."

    "When I was a child, I spake as a child. But when I became a Fucking Idiot, I put away childish things."

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    > From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com> > Subject: OK, I'm pissed.

    How did you know his name was "Pissed?" And who said I was taking votes for who gets to play the upcoming third character in Ytse & Jam?

    > And I'm a bigot now for telling that indian joke, am I?

    "Indian" is always spelled with a capital "I," you racist, neo-nazi, Euro-centric, bigotted, communist, uh...frozen-doorknob-licking, sleepy, um...neanderthalic MERCY FUCK!!! :)

    > I bear no hatred toward any race, color, or creed.

    But do you bear hatred towards bears? What about Jenniebears?

    > I do not discriminate due to gender, national origin, or even, yes, > sexual orientation.

    "Dis-" criminate? As opposed to just "criminate?" You can't have a prefix and a root word without a root word in the first place, you racist, neo-nazi...wait we did that already... You...stupid, uh, mongoloid...um, FUCKING IDIOT!! :)

    > We all get a hard time these days, from some angle or another.

    Tell me about it! When was the last time a 90-degree t-square felt good in YOUR back?

    > I can think of a lot more important things to hate, such as injustice, > child abuse, the Slavic civil war, and deaths caused by drunk drivers.

    You forgot about those people that stick javelins in Halloween candy. They suck! There you are thinking about what a nice, strangely-gigantic tootsie roll you just received, only to find out the bastard put a fucking SPEAR in it! I HATE that! Damn disgruntled Olympics-losers... Taking it out on the children...

    Ahhh, it's good to be done with those crazy stories. I can finally go back to being my normal old self...

    Bafu Vai

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    Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 15:36:30 -0400 (EDT) From: EMRST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Japanese Awake Message-ID: <01HXFZVHFJMW9YEHZV@vms.cis.pitt.edu>

    'Jammers, I admit this may be outdated, as I'm still reading posts about Operation: Revolution (meaning I'm still on digests from Halloween), but I feel this is important, so I will reiterate.

    Concerning the Japanese release of Awake that some places are still advertising as "contains a bonus CD", don't buy it. The bonus CD is a 3" mini CD for which you need an adaptor ring to play in any standard American (I know none of them are American, but in the U.S. standard is 5" CD) CD player. The bonus CD only contains one song: EVE (studio version). I understand that this in itself is a novelty, but it's not worth paying $40-45 for just this extra song, and an album you already have (Awake). The reason it's not worth it is because EVE has become available on the Silent Man single, which is easier to find, much cheaper, and contains the demo version of Take the Time. It's readily available in Europe (especially Germany), and is pretty frequently spotted in the U.S. in import sections. Plus, this single should only cost you $15 tops, and again contains TTT demo, which is cool. So don't waste your time looking for or purchasing the Japanese version of Awake. I have both just because I got the Japanese release w/ EVE the day it was released in Japan through Kaoru (thanks again), and this was obviously before The Silent Man single was released. Then I got the SM single through a friend in Germany. I thought about dishing off the Japanese release to make back a portion of the $35 I spent to get it, but I figured I'd just keep it for the novelty. If anyone can't afford or can't find the Silent Man single, contact me for a dubbing of it.

    KAI - glad to help fellow ytsejammers

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