YTSEJAM Digest 1168
Today's Topics:
1) YTSEJAM digest 1166
by "Steven Johnson," <svjohnson@amoco.com>
2) X-mas music,DT, and Q-ryche!
by "Dan R. Licon" <yama@ecst.csuchico.edu>
3) Petrucci REH video available!!!!
by Brandon Vaughn <EDLEADER@uwf.cc.uwf.edu>
4) Re: tcejbuS
by William T Bajzek <wb2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
5) WDADU
by eyl7720 <eyl7720@garnet.acns.fsu.edu>
6) Re: Classical compositions...
by schew@TIS.COM
7) re:ytsejam1165 (Van Halen's second guitarist?)
by Skooc@aol.com
8) Rising Power CD for sale
by "Kevin G. Villines" <kvillin@comp.uark.edu>
9) Marty Who?
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
10) Psychic Ytsejam Network
by "Daniel James Temmesfeld" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
11) Metallica doing Lie? Capricious...
by William Kriski <wkriski@enci.ucalgary.ca>
12) Labrie
by freel@iowa.physics.uiowa.edu
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1166
by steve matthews <WSM95003@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
14) A little Vindaloo
by "Sanjay A. Modi" <ModiS@lafvax.lafayette.edu>
15) KEEP Derek! Are you mental?
by mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
16) Re: Bass? No.
by mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
17) Berklee is no fucking guarantee!!!
by mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
18) 7-string...
by ICKLESTICK <TRMD@grove.iup.edu>
19) **VERY IMPORTANT**
by Michael.Bradley@mail.trincoll.edu (Michael Bradley)
20) Re: FW "Through Different Eyes" (NDTC)
by SaVeur <jjens@site.gmu.edu>
21) Re: Ytsejam
by "Greg \"Big Brother\" Lee" <greg@aix.can.ibm.com>
22) Re: FW - Through Diff. Eyes, New DT CD
by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
23) New DT Thread
by DreamNDay@aol.com
24) MTV
by DreamNDay@aol.com
25) new guy
by Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net>
26) other options for singers
by kristopher long <long16@matrix.newpaltz.edu>
27) Re: Zach's keyboard comment
by "Daniel James Temmesfeld" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
28) Re: VANDEN PLAS (progressive metal content)
by "Tim Schwartz" <schwartz@cscip.uni-sb.de>
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Date: 30 Nov 1995 11:09:11 GMT
From: "Steven Johnson," <svjohnson@amoco.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1166
Message-ID: <199511301720.AA09256@interlock.amoco.com>
*** Reply to note of 11/30/95 05:53
Has anyone mentioned "Christmas With The Devil" from Spinal Tap's Break Like
The Wind? YEESSSSSS!!!!!!
Steve
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"I ain't gonna be no repo man!"
"Too late.....you already are."
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 09:51:31 -0800 (PST)
From: "Dan R. Licon" <yama@ecst.csuchico.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: X-mas music,DT, and Q-ryche!
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.951130094135.18224B-100000@hairball.ecst.csuchico.edu>
A cool ass X-mas CD to check out would be, WINTER SOLISTICE 2, and ENYA's
version of Silent Night. Both are perfect for getting into that ever so
popular mood.
A little snipet of info: I work at a fast-food joint, and the day before
Thanksgiving I brought my CD player to work with some of my favs. About
20 minute before closing I popped in ACOS. This man around 27-30 years
old came up and asked if this was our "normal" music. I said no it was
my personal CD. He said that "we" should play more music like it, it
makes people feel good. Just though I'd share that.
When I saw "Road to the Promised Land" I was dumbfounded. It was by far
the best concert that I've seen, except for the fact that their really
weren't that many RYCHE fans their. They were standing around
complaining about this and that, but that's O.K. w/ me it gave me a
chance to get to the front!! Many of them told my friends and I to "calm
down!", when you're watching one of you're favorite bands kick much ass
how can you not want to bang your head and pump your fist. Sorry my opinion.
/----------------------------------------------------------------------------/
\ Dan Licon- yama@ecst.csuchico.edu \
/****************************************************************************/
\ "How many more times must I live this tragedy? \
/ How many more lies will they tell me? /
\ All I want is the same as everyone, \
/ Why am I here and for how long?" /
\ -Eyes of a Stranger, Queensryche \
/ /
\ "I know nothing of god.... or the devil" \
/ -Armand, Interview with the Vampire /
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 95 11:52:31 CDT
From: Brandon Vaughn <EDLEADER@uwf.cc.uwf.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Petrucci REH video available!!!!
Message-ID: <9511301803.AA04606@anthor.arastar.com>
Just wanted to let all the guitarists know that the Petrucci REH video
is finally out. The guy I spoke to at Warner said that it was about
2 hours long, with some of the band in the video!! Cost is around
$50.
You can call for more info or to order at:
Warner Bros. (or REH)
Note Music Service
1-800-628-1528 (ext. 215)
Happy strumming :)
Brandon Vaughn
edleader@uwf.cc.uwf.edu
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:04:52 -0500 (EST)
From: William T Bajzek <wb2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: tcejbuS
Message-ID: <EkjU1IK00YUv4KR1Qh@andrew.cmu.edu>
capricious... pagannini's 24 violin caprices?
we'll steal your dreams ----william bajzek---- the realm of the freaks
control your minds ------------http://--------- is to solve the demise
persecute the fools ----phoebe.dws.acs.cmu.edu---- ravage the lifeless
left behind -------------------/~wb2a/---------------- blinded by lies
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 10:27:42 -0500 (EST)
From: eyl7720 <eyl7720@garnet.acns.fsu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: WDADU
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.951130102445.154793B-100000@garnet.acns.fsu.edu>
I'm surprised most people on here don't like WDADU as much as the other
DT albums. The first time I heard it I liked it a lot more than when I
heard I&W for the first time. Personally I think this album would be
better than I&W if it had the same production and James singing. Maybe
its cause I like heavier stuff, DT is the lightest group I listen to. Had
DT made any comments whether they like WDADU or anything?
Also is Alex Skolnick (whatever) in Savatage?
-Suicyco
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 10:52:47 -0500 (EST)
From: schew@TIS.COM
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: fitipmol@ibmmail.com
Subject: Re: Classical compositions...
Message-ID: <10311.9511301552@ragnarok.tis.com>
Argh. Sorry about that last email -- I sent it out before
I meant to (obviously).
Anyway, I wanted to say that there are many, many covers
of classical pieces out there. Someone already mentioned that
Mastermind does a few classical covers: the "Lone Ranger" part of
the William Tell Overture by Rossini. And Wagner's "Ride of the
Valkyres".
Emerson Lake and Palmer also do quite a few covers, including
"Pictures at an Exhibition" by Mussorgsky, "Fanfare for the Common
Man" and "Hoedown" by Copland, "Introductory Fanfare" by Mancini,
"Enemy God Dances with the Black Spirits" by Prokofiev, and more...
Emerson Lake and Powell did a cool cover of "Mars the Bringer
of War" by Holst. Anekdoten also did a superb live cover of that piece.
"Cans and Brahams" by Yes (Wakeman); Renaissance has some
classical pieces mixed in with their music, but they tend not to
attribute it. Renaissance has a classical feel to them in general,
so if you like classical covers you may like all of their music.
Anglagard doesn't have any classical covers, but their music
has a lot of classical influence -- it is very complex, uses a lot of
dynamics and variation of rhythms and time signatures. Cool stuff.
There are many more, but those are all I can come up with
off the top of my head...
Steve
>
>Edvard Grieg: Hall of The Mountain King is performed at least
>by the following: Savatage, Whistle (Rap version) and Ritchie
>Blackmore's Rainbow. Savatages version was "Prelude to madness"
>
>Beethoven:Fur Elise has been covered as a guitar solo of Accept's
>Metal heart.
>
>Albinoni's Adagio has been performed by Yngwie Malmsteen on
>Trial by fire-Live in Leningrad".
>
>Sibelius' Finlandia has been partly played by Stone and Leningrad
>Cowboys.
>
>A band called "Exception" has covered LOADS of classical tunes.
>
>Tcshaikowsky's "1912" has been banged away by Cozy Powell.
>
"1812 Overture"
>Beethovens "Ode for the joy" has been covered as Rainbow's
>"Difficult to cure".
>
This would be "Ode to Joy", from the fourth movement of
Beethoven's Ninth Symphony.
>..these are the ones I know about. More?
>
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:00:51 -0500
From: Skooc@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: re:ytsejam1165 (Van Halen's second guitarist?)
Message-ID: <951130110050_39342843@mail04.mail.aol.com>
In ytsejam1165, Damon wrote:
>> For a while, didn't Van halen have a rhythm guitarist on tour? I saw a
>>video where Sammy played guitar on some songs. It kind of threw me a
llittle
>>bit. It almost seemed very ... non-Halen.
No, Van Halen hasn't used a rhythm guitarist on the road. Sammy plays guitar
on his solo songs and acoustic on Finish What Ya Started. Other than that,
Eddie is the only guitarist in the band. This is a shame. I saw Sammy twice
as a solo artist; one time in 1978 on the same bill with Van Halen. Sammy
shreds on the guitar. He can hold his own with Eddie just fine. It's too bad
no one gets to hear it anymore.
Have a good one.
Scott
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 10:35:51 -0600 (CST)
From: "Kevin G. Villines" <kvillin@comp.uark.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Rising Power CD for sale
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.951130103321.5056A-100000@comp>
I've got a CD of Mike Portnoy's first band called Rising Power.
I'll take offers for a week or two.
E-Mail me at kvillin@comp.uark.edu with an offer if interested.
Thanks, Kevin.
P.S.-To whomever mentioned James LaBrie replacements, you should be hung
upside down by your toenails! ;)
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:41:21 -0500 (EST)
From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Marty Who?
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.951130113155.26010A-100000@tempest.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Anybody ever look at the extended Mailer-ID attached to each post (under
the subject lines)....funny thing about Marty Jameson's post, it had the
usual huge string of characters and then, it ended with "LAUSSADE..."
I'm just surprised more people haven't flamed 'Marty'
On another front....33 morsels of Ytsetrivia?
Bafu Vai for Vice-President, 1996! (Naturally, Mike Bahr would be the
Presidential candidate for the Ytsejam Party)
Last, would anyone care for a Kevin Moore legacy piece on the next album,
sorta like what Adrian Smith did for IM's No Prayer... (can't remember
the name o' the song right now, but methinks it is the best song on the album)
This is not to say I want one of those, just a thought
Partha Mukhopadhyay
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:33:00 -500 (EST)
From: "Daniel James Temmesfeld" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Psychic Ytsejam Network
Message-ID: <30BDE34F.B99D.00C9.000@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
Wow, I just had this weird experience...
I was listening to Dream Theater, and I opened up my email. This
'Jam had all stuff about Dream Theater...
.what a concept. ;)
Ytsedan
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 10:03:40 -0700 (MST)
From: William Kriski <wkriski@enci.ucalgary.ca>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Metallica doing Lie? Capricious...
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.951130100011.3503A-100000@casual1>
'jammers,
Somebody mentioned this:
>.Metallica (among MANY other
>bands) could do an AWESOME Lie (imagine the fun Hetfield and Hammet would
>have with those high-pitched keyboard notes!).
The only thing Kirk Hammett could do during the outro solo is rock the
wah pedal! He still couldn't pull that task off properly! They'd kick
ass on the rhythm parts though.
Bafu:
Capricious => violin => caprice
I get it..huh....huh huh....huh huh huh....huh....
Will
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:06:51 C
From: freel@iowa.physics.uiowa.edu
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Labrie
Message-ID: <0099A29C.6A4476C0.10@iowa.physics.uiowa.edu>
>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 23:07:30 -0500
>From: Michael.Bradley@mail.trincoll.edu (Michael Bradley)
>To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
>Subject: **IMPORTANT**
>Message-ID: <v01520d00ace2d7af02fe@[157.252.65.110]>
>
>Hey guys,
>
> I'm starting to get a little pissed off about some of the the
>responses to my James LaBrie/Devon Townshend thread. Here's one...
>
>"If people are turned off by LaBrie because he sounds too 80's, then I guess
>they'd prefer some lame-ass grudge "singer" who has little/no talent. And I'm
>sure you can find lots of people who could match LaBrie's singing... not."
>
>Uhh...did I bring up grunge? Do I even listen to grunge? Did I say people
>were turned off because he sounds too 80's? Like you so eloquently said,
>"NOT!"
Did you bring up grunge? No. Did I respond directly to you? No. You're
pretty self-centered thinking that I was writing specifically to you.
What I wrote was directed at numerous posts which said essentially the same
thing: Labrie isn't good as DT's singer because he sounds too 80's (What does
that mean, anyway?)
>
>Here's another reponse...
>
>"It really seems like you're saying that DT should get rid of James because
>he's not accessable enough to a lot of people...Who brought this up anyway?
>Who would dare state, nay, *think* such a thing?"
> ^^^^^^
>Oops! I guess I missed the free thought ban on the jam. Lighten up! I said
>I still think James is great, and I generally like him in DT. Just because
>James is an excellent singer doesn't mean I should be forbidden from making
>*small* stylistic criticisms. Many don't like Luciano Pavarotti
>stylistically, but many of those same people would admit he's a great
>singer. I really like James, but what if I hated his singing? What if I
>loved everything about DT except that? Would I be forbidden from the jam?
>Would I still be allowed to like DT? I've always liked the exchange of
>different ideas on the jam. Let's not stifle that now!
> Let's all grow up and not flame each other for stupid reasons.
>We're all on the Jam because we love DT. Let's remember that.
There's no free speech ban... you expressed your opinion, others expreessed
theirs... just cause you don't agree is no reason to whine about censorship.
>E-mail me personally if you want to discuss this, but let's move on now and
>not waste space on the jam. Later guys!
Translation: I want to have the last word, at least publically. :^)
>-Mike Bradley
Chrisf
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 95 12:22:49 EST
From: steve matthews <WSM95003@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1166
Message-ID: <951130.124814.EST.WSM95003@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
I couldn't help but notice the Devin Townsend/James LaBrie argument, and I'd li
ke to throw my two cents in. Now it might sound like I'm arguing against James
, however I'm just defending Devin. It seems that on Awake, James was trying f
or a raspier, or "heavier" vocal sound. I must say that his "heavy" sound leav
es a little to be desired, but he's not known for that. I kinda like his vibra
to-laden high notes, even though this is what makes people call him "80s soundi
ng". Anyone that has heard Vai's "Sex and Religion" knows that Devin has the
range, and also the sensitivity, and definitely the heaviness. But, I don't th
ink that he could entirely be himself in DT, because it seems that he likes to
go completely insane at times, and I can't really see that in DT. But then, wh
y put such a restriction on them. The ideal thing would be for a DT ep with gu
ests, or maybe form a "supergroup" like Temple of the Dog. How's this for the
lineup: MIke Portnoy on drums, Steve Vai and John Petrucci on guitar (holy sev
en-string), Geddy Lee on bass, Jens Johansen on keys, and Devin Townsend on voc
als. I'm probably dreaming, but it would be interesting to hear. Well, I stra
yed from the argument a bit, but I don't think that we should argue about repla
cing band members because someone says they sound like 80s metal. It is this s
ound that got them a platinum album, and legions of devoted fans like us. If a
change is necessary, I'm sure the members of DT would make the right choice in
new personnel. They pretty good with Derek.
Steve Matthews
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:10:29 -0500 (EST)
From: "Sanjay A. Modi" <ModiS@lafvax.lafayette.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: A little Vindaloo
Message-ID: <01HY97EGZ3S20087OM@LAFVAX.LAFAYETTE.EDU>
I was wonderng if anyone(someone must) knows the little 'magic' that
Petrucci wields from 2:26 on. The part I'm really intersted in is however the
palm-muting bonanza he "busts" into @ 3:55 to 4:25, It's some pretty slick
stuff. Anyway, I'd appreciate if anyone has tab for it could send it to me.
. Jam On...
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:23:58 -0500
From: mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: KEEP Derek! Are you mental?
Message-ID: <v01530503ace39dfdcc72@[199.232.46.229]>
>> I think they should get rid of Derek. Keyboards are
>> unnecessary for DT (heck, for any rock band), anyway.
>> Anyone who's heard _Awake_ can attest to that.
>
>> Zach
> Damn your blasphemous (spelling?) soul. Are you a
> guitarist? You know how many guitarist's i've encountered
> that feel the same as you? I myself am a keyboardist and
> reject any statements that indicate that keyboards are
> unnecessary in a rock band, especially prog rock. ...
>
> Wow. Hope i didn't come off to strong. It just irritates
> me when people slam keyboardists. And yes, I do take the
> statement above as an insult.
I totally agree and you didn't come off too strong. Zach, you must be
joking. Take out the keys and DT is a whole other band! Keys are where it's
at. I love that. And keyboardists can play lines in one hand, chords in the
other. Guitar can't. Plus keys have all those cool sounds (unless you have
a cheesy synth like the Yamaha TG-100 I have. Any recommendations on a new
one?).
--Marc R
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:24:04 -0500
From: mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Bass? No.
Message-ID: <v01530504ace39f1d103f@[199.232.46.229]>
> And keyboards can take the place of entire bands. [snip]
> Bass? No.
Just wait one minute, young man ;). If it's a jazz band, you don't need
drums or piano. Bass covers harmony and rhythm :P
> Sorry, but I can replace all of you with my keyboard rig.
> And make it sound like a band. What do you have to say to
> that?
Well, just me and my bass ain't gonna sound like no band. OTOH, how many of
those parts are you playing and how many are sequenced (i.e. no human
feel)?
heh heh. Sorry Damon. You were right to kill Zach for that anti-keys
comment, but I just had to play devils advocate here. he he. No hard
feelings. :)
--Marc R
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:24:14 -0500
From: mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Berklee is no fucking guarantee!!!
Message-ID: <v01530506ace3a12289a5@[199.232.46.229]>
I wrote:
> I like DT. They're a progressive ROCK band. I expect influences of all
> kinds to enter their music but I don't expect them to do anything in a
> particular genre. Jazz influence is nice. A Jazz song from DT wouldn't
> be. They aren't jazz players. There's a big difference between knowing a
> little jazz and being a jazz player. Same with any style.
Then Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> wrote:
(and after I wrote the following, I realised it was the infamous Bafu Vai :/ )
> Ahem, three of them are.
>
> Might I remind you that Dream Theater is comprised of three
> men from Berklee?
Big fucking deal! When were you at Berklee? What do you know of Berklee?
> Ever since I heard of their origins, I
> have always considered DT a group of jazz musicians who
> decided to play metal.
Which means that you don't know what you're talking about and have made
many assumptions.
> Jazz would seem to be as much a part
> of their musical roots as Iron Maiden.
Why was that again?
> Of course I could be wrong
You are.
>, maybe they've left all that stuff behind or have
> forgotten their jazz-theory, but anyone who wonders whether
> DT could play jazz or not probably also wonders if congress
> has the power to impeach the president. Sure they do, but
> they rarely bare such fangs.
OTOH, anyone who thinks that someone is a jazz player just because that
person attended one year at the Berklee College of Music doesn't know what
he's talking about.
OK. Sorry to be so harsh Steve. No offense intended but I guess I have to
set the record straight ONCE AGAIN. Berklee College of Music has it's
root's in jazz. But more specifically, in popular music. When Berklee was
started in the '40's, jazz was the popular music. Today Berklee has one of
the most up-to-date music computing facilities and recording studios in the
country (world?). When I was there 5 years ago, the curicullum was very
jazz oriented. As a bassist, I had to be able to walk a line through
changes (at sight), read music and hold my own in a jazz ensemble.
Guitarists would have to play chord solos. Guess how many rock guitarists
had a solo written out _by their teacher_ that they would learn for their
test? All of them? Berklee has tons and tons of rock players. On any day,
you can hear rock music being played. They would have jazz concerts and
rock concerts in the cafeteria. The rock concerts drew the most people and
held the audience the longest. Walk through the halls of the dorms and
you'll hear rock more than anything.
Berklee is a fine school. You CAN learn a lot. Just going isn't any
guarantee that you WILL learn anything, though. Certainly, it is no
guarantee that you will learn any one particular genre, most especially
jazz. Like I said, you're either a jazz player or you're not. Knowing who
Miles Davis is and knowing what a Lydian scale is doesn't make you jazz
player.
Please. This is just a general attitude but do not take someone's
"credentials" at face value. Attending a particular school means nothing.
Esp. for a musician. Wait until you hear him play. If DT did a jazz song
and it was really good then we'd have some basis for rating them as jazz
players. I just can't see Portnoy sitting behind a kit with one small bass
drum, a snare, hi-hat and ride and that's it though :).
Thanks for your time
--Marc Respass
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:14:46 -0500 (EST)
From: ICKLESTICK <TRMD@grove.iup.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: 7-string...
Message-ID: <01HY9344C5KY8WWGTM@grove.iup.edu>
I can't believe some of the things people are saying about John's seven
string. I was reminded of it AGAIN in THIS comment...
>solo (to guitarists). I'd prefer JP lose the 7-string so that I can play
>along with the tunes! I haven't liked JM's sound at all except for some
Yeah, John, how DARE you expend your musicality at the expense of us
not being able to play your parts. After all, every single one of us are going
to play ALL of yours songs in a band, and it makes it ESPECIALLY hard on us
when you try to do something new like using a seven string guitar. What's
next, more finger-picking or even, no!....., finger-tapping?!?!
Seriously, though, I don't think that the first thing JP thinks of when
writing is 'Gee, I hope everyone can play this song,' otherwise he wouldn't
play things like the quintuplet sixteenths in Erotomania or just about any solo
that he plays. I think that it's rediculous that people don't want him to use
something new. I guess it should upset drummers when Mike buys a new set or a
new piece. IIIIIII don't think so.........am I the only one who thinks this?
Brian
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:58:04 -0500
From: Michael.Bradley@mail.trincoll.edu (Michael Bradley)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: **VERY IMPORTANT**
Message-ID: <v01520d02ace3ae7480f0@[157.252.65.110]>
Hey guys!
I just spoke to someone at the El 'n Gee and he said the Dec. 27
Dream Theater concert there is officially SOLD OUT! He stressed that he
hopes those of us over 21 will patronize his bar and was very helpful about
some other items of business I had.
To repeat once more, the Dec. 27 show at the El 'n Gee is SOLD OUT.
Hope to see you guys there! Later!
-Mike Bradley
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 15:18:53 -0500 (EST)
From: SaVeur <jjens@site.gmu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: FW "Through Different Eyes" (NDTC)
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.90.951130151542.12195A-100000@reactor.site.gmu.edu>
> > Fates Warning have a new video out (or Teresa Roncon said it was new
> > anyway), for "Through Different Eyes".
>
> No! Wrong! Very very wrong! That video came out when "Perfect Symmetry"
> was first released way back in--what was it, '89?
maybe they re-released it since it's on Chasing Time? i dunno, i've only
seen one FW video, Point of View, and all i remember was that it was dark.
> that Jim Matheos just finished writing the new album, and it's one
> continuous 50+ minute epic song! I guess he's being very tight-lipped
i'm sure *someone* on this list will get a copy. let us mere mortals know
wut's up ;)
j o h n j j e n s @ g m u . e d u
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 15:36:07 -0500 (EST)
From: "Greg \"Big Brother\" Lee" <greg@aix.can.ibm.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Ytsejam
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.951130153247.131642A-100000@hal.mkm.aix.can.ibm.com>
On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, mmetzger wrote:
> >> 2.) On the same boot, I think LaBrie said it like "Yet Say". is this
> >> correct?
> Well, he's Canadian, so his accent makes him say it wrong.
Hey! I resemble that remark! Accents are in the ear of the beholder anyhow.
I pronounce it "Yit-see-jam" but I don't care to get thread started again,
so just ignore everything I just said...
Greg.
P.S...does anyone in the Toronto area, Lars for example, have a copy of
Subcon or AD???
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 12:46:11 PST
From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: FW - Through Diff. Eyes, New DT CD
Message-ID: <199511302046.MAA21341@netcom2.netcom.com>
Actually... Frank Aresti does do backup vocals... or DID do backup
vocals... we'll see who does the harmonizing now that he's gone...
-The Doc
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 16:04:58 -0500 From: DreamNDay@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: New DT Thread Message-ID: <951130160456_121176098@emout04.mail.aol.com>
Here are my ideas for the new album: As far as harmonies go, I LOVE 'EM! My favorite vocal part probably on any DT album is from "Innocence" off ACOS-you know, "Innocence carressing me..." I'd like to see more of that. A Derek song? I really don't like him at all, and will he even be in the band when the new album is recorded? Those of you who saw the HBB about a year ago with James and Mike recall that he was just replacing Kevin temporarily until they find the time to look for right man for the job. And another member? NO WAY! The band is great with 5. later--------------Brian
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 16:05:08 -0500 From: DreamNDay@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: MTV Message-ID: <951130160505_121176273@emout04.mail.aol.com>
As to what John Kotzian said about flooding the MTV mailbox with letters, LET'S DO IT! Just set the date and make a list of people who will send the letters (put me down as #1!) I mean, I don't want prog to get overly commercialized, but right now MTV SUCKS! Look at the nominees for the best Metal/Hard Rock song this year: Green Day, Meat Puppets, and White Zombie (for More Human Than Human, a song alll the hip-hop people in my school know-after all, its been on The Grind). Come On. Lets let them know we're out there! later-------------------Brian
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:02:22 PST From: Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: new guy Message-ID: <199511302204.WAA33371@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net>
Hey all,
I'm new to this list and its my firsr post as well. Some of you might know me from the megadeth mailing list as well or even from the megadiner(ddv.com 6969) I've been a Dream Theater fan for a while now, always loved that progressive side to music but I am an even bigger fan of John Myung's bass playing. Yes, i play bass. Can anyone tell me what kind of basses Myung uses. I know his amp, which is a beautiful peice of work btw and its too bad his bass is so damn low in the mix, I swear I was listening to Judas Priest cd.
Dream Theatre has one thing going for them, they don't add layers and layers of tracks onto their cd's. What you hear on the cd is what you get, its quite nice to hear that.
Also, I just picked up Fates Warning "No Exit" and It totally kicks ass. That has to be one of the heaviest and most progressive cd's I have ever heard. I love the epic style song, you can't beat those. It's right up there with Iron Maiden's Rime of the Ancient Mariner and then again, its up there with any Iron Maiden song. I should mention that I am a BIG Iron Maiden fan, steve harris is also one of my biggest influences and its one of John Myungs as well. Are there any bass tab for DT songs? or at the lines to hard to write out. Can anyone tell me anything about Joe Dibaise and the amazing drummer that is playing on the Exit cd. I have yet to check out Chasing time. I also saw the new video for Fates Warning, too bad I can't remember what its called but it was really good.
ahhh, a new mailing list to conquer
Mark "Stranger" on the Megadiner
777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777-11 Why then is God still protecting me even when I don't deserve it. Though I am blessed with an inner strength, some may call it a penance.
Why am I meant to face this alone, asking the questions time and again. Praying to God won't keep alive inside my head feel the fear start to rise.....Iron Maiden/Sign of the Cross
email me at msmeets@ibm.net
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:29:58 -0500 (EST) From: kristopher long <long16@matrix.newpaltz.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: other options for singers Message-ID: <199511302230.RAA20585@matrix.newpaltz.edu>
Well, everybody seems to be arguing over James and if he's a good singer and crap like that. Personally, I have no problems with him at all and I don't see what the big deal is. You got me thinking though, who would be a decent replacemen? The AC/DC guy? Peter Brady? Barry White? Julio Iglesias? I got it, Willie Nelson? How about Steve Tyler("Pull me ak-ak-ak-ak-under!")? Maybe Garth Brooks("if you take the doggone time, yeeha!"). The Gza? Mama Cass(I guess that's not possible)? Lou Reed? Debbie Gibson? Barbara Streisand(she'd cost too much). Micheal Jackson("You can make a fortune in lies eee-heee!"). I'm rambling on now, aren't I? Ok, I'm done. Later.
"It's the sound of a high heel, and crutch dragging across the floor." ---Buttcrust "One Legged Horny Girl"
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:46:00 -500 (EST) From: "Daniel James Temmesfeld" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Zach's keyboard comment Message-ID: <30BE4267.B99D.0B08.000@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
Hey Zach, Are you nuts? The keys in DT's music make it that much fuller. I'm sure even JP thinks so. There is so much more that you can do with keys- stuff that your "ordinary rock band" couldn't do without 'em. BTW, I'm *not* a keyboard/piano player...I just happen to like DT's mix of guitars and keys. And your comment about Awake is kinda stupid. Awake is *full* of keyboards!! I never could tell why people were complaining (when it first came out) about the lack of keys. Sure, IAW had a more bright sounding keyboard than Awake, but Awake is still full of keys. I'm *not* a keyboardist (or that much of a musician), but I can tell that the beginnings of 6:00 and Eroto are keyboards. Why is there so much surprise when JP says "no, that's keyboard" at a clinic? It sounds like keyboard to me. Distorted, and many times you have to listen for it, but it's still as much there as it was on IAW...
Dan Temmesfeld s1133627@cedarville.edu
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 02:34:03 +0100 (MET) From: "Tim Schwartz" <schwartz@cscip.uni-sb.de> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: VANDEN PLAS (progressive metal content) Message-ID: <9512010134.AA21561@cip68.cscip.uni-sb.de>
> > Hi there, > > Just few words to invite you to listen to the fantastic album of VANDEN > PLAS, a band from Germany. "Color temple" is very impressive, in a style > that mix metal, progressive, and FM. Some songs sound like DT or QUEENSRYCHE > and their epic songs (like "Soul survive" or "When the wind blows") are > simply astonishing. > > I saw them live yesterday, and it kicked ass. Undoubtely the best show I > have seen recently, since the last European DT Tour. Moreover, they are die > hard DT fans, but don't try to copy them. > > I listen to a lot of prog metal bands, and I would put VANDEN PLAS just > after DT, before other excellents bands like IVANOHE or SHADOW GALLERY. > Taste VANDEN PLAS, you won't be disappointed. > > Still looking for DT traders, especially in Europe; but other traders are > welcome, even if it is more difficult for the videos, in so far as we don't > share the same standard. > > The new Tori Amos (= a masterpiece) album is planned for January 22nd, with > a single one month before. A European tour will follow (about 20 dates in UK > in february/march). > Bye, > > Stephane Auzilleau > Your Majesty, French Fan Club of DT > > > Hi Jammers, I was very surprised to read the name Vandenplas here, 'cause the bandmembers are some kind of 'local heroes' where I come from. They're from a town not far from where I live ( and I know some jammer comes directly from that town , and I'm pretty sure he knows the members personaly. Sorry I forgot the dudes name). They are truly a great band. The best around this part of my county I would say, but I think they lack in originality.
May I ask you, Stephane , where you come from? I'm sure it's close to the border (am I right :))
'till later
Tim Schwartz schwartz@cscip.uni-sb.de
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