YTSEJAM Digest 1016
Today's Topics:
1) House of Blues
by laussade@enet.net (MonkeyBoy)
2) How I got into Dream Theater
by Nathan Dayspring <tsbileci@beta.loyno.edu>
3) New Orleans
by Nathan Dayspring <tsbileci@beta.loyno.edu>
4) DT FAQ
by Nathan Dayspring <tsbileci@beta.loyno.edu>
5) ndtc
by hiw100@psu.edu (howard wiener)
6) In the Right place at the Wrong time.
by debraun@fresno.edu (Randall Braun)
7)
by debraun@fresno.edu (Randall Braun)
8) Mike's Clinic
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu>
9) Tiamat
by Jaime Kimpton <jaimekimpton@vwc.edu>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1015
by DRUNK BOY <dwinston@moose.uvm.edu>
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Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 10:40:41 -0700
From: laussade@enet.net (MonkeyBoy)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: House of Blues
Message-ID: <199510081740.KAA14956@maple.enet.net>
I was watching "Live From the House of Blues" a couple nights ago on WTBS (I
think) and before they cut to commercial they had a shot of the House of
Blues logo. It said (surprise, surprise) House of Blues, but behind it
(SURPRISE!!!) was a BURNING HEART WRAPPED IN THORNS. Hmmmmmmm. Where have
I seen THAT before?
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Ben Laussade Dream Theater
laussade@enet.net
Metallica
Primus
Megadeth
"Would you like to buy a monkey?" Dave Letterman, from Cabin Boy.
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Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 12:54:38 +0000 (GMT)
From: Nathan Dayspring <tsbileci@beta.loyno.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: How I got into Dream Theater
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.951008124849.2436G-100000@beta.loyno.edu>
I guess I'll add my little story. It's not a long one or even a profound
one. Ready?
I saw the "Pull Me Under" video on MTV's Dream Time.
That's pretty much it. I was captivated so much by that one song, that I
felt I HAD to check them out. Before I bought Images and Words, a friend
of mine showed me an article in a magazine about Dream Theater, in which
they mentioned being influenced by both Rush and Queensryche. At the
time, I was a big Queensryche fan and she was getting me into Rush. I
then decided that even though I had only heard ONE DT song (which I
LOVED), I'd get Images and Words. I figured that anyone inspired by both
Rush and Queensryche should be pretty good. Well, now I know that not
only is DT "pretty good" but they are possibly the BEST band I have ever
heard, even compared to Rush and Queensryche!
Paul
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Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 13:03:44 +0000 (GMT)
From: Nathan Dayspring <tsbileci@beta.loyno.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: New Orleans
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.951008130151.2436I-100000@beta.loyno.edu>
Can some please tell me if Dream Theater came to New Orleans this year or
if they have New Orleans on their tour schedule and when it is? Thanks.
DT could come hear and I'd never know because they get absolutely NO
recognition from local radio stations.
Paul
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Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 13:11:24 +0000 (GMT)
From: Nathan Dayspring <tsbileci@beta.loyno.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT FAQ
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.951008131045.2436J-100000@beta.loyno.edu>
Where can I get a copy of the Dream Theater FAQ?
Paul
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Date: Sun, 08 Oct 1995 14:27:30 -0400
From: hiw100@psu.edu (howard wiener)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: ndtc
Message-ID: <199510081827.OAA31150@r02n05.cac.psu.edu>
Rain king-server wont send you messages. I accidently put the wrong name on
your money order, so I am going to go back to the Uni-Mart and get another
one. It should be in the mail by monday or tuesday.
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"Don't expect your own Messiah, this neverworld which you desire is only in
your mind." ---Dream Theater---
"O, that this too, too solid flesh would melt, thaw, and resolve itself into
dew!" ---Shakespeare---
"Yerushalayim shel zahav, v'shel n'choshet, v'shel or; halo l'chol
shirayich, ani kinor."
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Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 12:53:47 -0700
From: debraun@fresno.edu (Randall Braun)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: In the Right place at the Wrong time.
Message-ID: <v01530500ac9d7a9acd02@[204.161.33.79]>
--What classic rock song by whom also contains the line "Brain Salad
Surgery" (Hint--Its not ELP I'm looking for.) This goes back to the 70's.
Answer: "Right Place, Wrong Time" by Dr. John, a 'classic rock' piece;
since this is what tends to be played at my new job. It's what I (and DT,
I'd guess) grew up with and it's infinitely better, IHMO, than R&B, C&W or
(C)rap. Also why I like the covers on ACOS. But progmetal/prog is still
the very best.
Does anyone else out there know of any other songs by a particular band
which were also album names, but did not appear on the album by that same
name?
---Thanks for those who gave their input on this line.
Speaking of 'classic progmetal' "Lunatic Fringe" by RedRyder(sp?), a very
PF-like song (and band?), IMO, that still gets a fair amount of airplay;
did this band ever put out anything else worth recommending? Relationship
to the group "Planet P"?
Also, I have an additional, new, email address at my new job, that I'm more
likely to read more often if anyone cares to personally comment:
although my other address, which is probably in the email header for this
post, is also still valid, just checked less often.
--Randall L. Braun, the Quintessential Kludge
--Eternity is a terrible thing to waste.
'To write or to speak is almost inevitably to lie a little. It is an
attempt to clothe an intangible in tangible form; to compress an
immeasurable into a mold. And in the act of compression, how Truth is
mangled and torn!'
-- Anne Morrow Lindbergh
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Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 13:00:01 -0700
From: debraun@fresno.edu (Randall Braun)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Message-ID: <v01530501ac9d7ef3d22a@[204.161.33.79]>
Sorry, I forgot to add this question:
Since I'm getting the JAM in digest form, ARE THERE MORE SKIPPED JAM #'s
RECENTLY, than in the past, or are my email servers screwed up??????
Perhaps our Ytsejam-host (Sir Bibb) might like to answer, especially if
I'm not the only one wondering about this question...
--Randall Braun--
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Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 18:50:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu>
To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Mike's Clinic
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.951008184943.148066G-100000@moose.uvm.edu>
Can the guy who went to Mike P.'s clinic in Houston please e-mail
me? I am in dire need of a copy of your tape.
Richie
rrivera@moose.uvm.edu
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Date: Sun, 8 Oct 95 18:53:10 British Summer Time--100
From: Jaime Kimpton <jaimekimpton@vwc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Tiamat
Message-ID: <9510082254.AA20919@anthor.arastar.com>
Let's see if this one gets sent without a double .sig (or without one,
period) this time!
>For those of you who don't know anything about Tiamat, I can only say you
>don't know what you are missing - in my opinion, the best Swedish band around
>at the moment: a perfect mix of death/doom metal, with excellent musicians
>and a fantastic atmopshere. Check them out! And for those who do know Tiamat
>and like them: I'm going to see them next Wednesday (they are supporting
>some bunch called Black Sabbath, but I'm only really going to see Tiamat).
>(I nearly forgot: try the latest album "Wild Honey" first. It's certainly
>good enough to make you play something other than JUST Dream Theater).
::nodding head emphatically::
I can't stop giggling every time I hear "Gaia", because I swear Johan
Edlund sounds like a gothic Elmer Fudd, but _Wildhoney_ is indeed an
*excellent* CD, and an interesting contrast if DT is all you listen to. I'm
glad to see someone else into them.
Jaime
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writingreadingdrawingdreamingwishingpublishingbadpunsjokesriddlespunditspoet
switsandMUSIC:
dreamtheaterwickedmarayaparadiselosttoriamosloreenamckennittqueensrychetiama
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Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 19:24:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: DRUNK BOY <dwinston@moose.uvm.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1015
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.951008192326.85490B-100000@moose.uvm.edu>
please do not mail me a friend used my account and he wants this his
address is peter.bashkoian@castle.shore.net
On Sun, 8 Oct 1995 ytsejam@arastar.com wrote:
> YTSEJAM Digest 1015
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1) Re: Please delete my name from your database.
> by kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
> 2) New Releases Mailing List
> by srvrip@qualcomm.com (John Hough)
> 3) ACOS POLL
> by srvrip@qualcomm.com (John Hough)
> 4) other lists
> by kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
> 5) Re: 7 string
> by constabl@postoffice.ptd.net (Marc Contrady)
> 6) Re: Ozric Tentacles
> by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
> 7) Song & album titles
> by 191547620@UCIS.VILL.EDU (Stefan T. Rau)
> 8) Howard Wiener's 6:00 lyric interp.
> by JamesArin@aol.com
> 9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1012
> by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
> 10) Trey's daily #'d (short) random DT thoughts
> by tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen)
> 11) Killing Hand Parody
> by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
> 12) YJ #1007 etc.
> by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
> 13) Re: Song & album titles
> by Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
> 14) Kid on ACoS
> by aurora@wirehub.nl (Jan van Huizen)
> 15) Keep DT underground?
> by "Andrew Keith Garinger" <garinger@pilot.msu.edu>
> 16) Re: demo liner notes/dub sites/posting the FAQ to YJ
> by AirDance@aol.com
> 17) Rush
> by mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
> 18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1009
> by Nathan Dayspring <tsbileci@beta.loyno.edu>
> 19) RE: Satrionics
> by P.McLoughlin@bra0108.wins.icl.co.uk
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 20:39:44 +0800
> From: kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
> To: ytsejam
> Cc: BILLSPEC@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Please delete my name from your database.
> Message-ID: <9510080339.AA11354@anthor.arastar.com>
>
> > Please take me off the mailing list.
>
> Yet another example of "How *NOT* to follow instructions".
>
> As has been said before, do *NOT* send unsub requests to the list.
> Send:
>
> unsub ytsejam
>
> to ytsejam-request@arastar.com with a subject of "asdf".
>
> --
> Ken Bibb "If the boundary breaks I'm no longer alone
> kbibb@arastar.com Don't discourage me
> jester@crash.cts.com Bring out the stars/On the first day"
> David Sylvian--"The First Day"
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 20:55:09 -0700
> From: srvrip@qualcomm.com (John Hough)
> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
> Subject: New Releases Mailing List
> Message-ID: <199510080355.UAA01579@wizard.qualcomm.com>
>
>
> I forgot who posted it but someone wanted info on
> the new releases mailing list. Here is the Email info
> as well as where it is on the net, straight from the
> list itself.
>
> E-MAIL SUBSCRIPTIONS:
> - To receive this list via e-mail on a weekly basis (every Monday),
> e-mail <new-releases-request@cs.uwp.edu> or <majordomo@cs.uwp.edu> with
> only the following in the body of the message: subscribe new-releases
> - To unsubscribe, e-mail <majordomo@cs.uwp.edu> with only the following
> in the body of your message: unsubscribe new-releases
> - To unsubscribe a different e-mail address than the one you are mailing
> from, use the command: unsubscribe new-releases e-mail-address
>
> WWW: This list is available on the World Wide Web at various locations:
> http://www.dsi.unimi.it/Users/Students/barbieri/home.html
> http://nabalu.flas.ufl.edu/djemhome
> http://www.cloud9.net/new-releases/
> http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~millert/new_releases.html
> http://www.mcs.com/~jimkelly/html
>
> FTP: This list is available via anonymous FTP in the following locations:
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> ftp://ftp.mcs.com/mcsnet.users/jimkelly/infos
>
> Later all.
>
> ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
> John Hough
> srvrip@qualcomm.com
>
> "Until I saw the desire for revenge, my heart never once went astray"
> "As long as I have to die in the attempt, then there is no reason"
> "To Live Forever" ---- Dream Theater
> ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 20:55:11 -0700
> From: srvrip@qualcomm.com (John Hough)
> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
> Subject: ACOS POLL
> Message-ID: <199510080355.UAA01582@wizard.qualcomm.com>
>
> Ok guys one more time. MKizer is still topping me
> on responses, (although he is posting every other jam
> it seems like!) I've only got aroung 50 responses. I
> hope I can at least double this number this time. I
> plan on posting the results sometime in the near
> future so please get me as many responses as
> possible. To all who have responded thank you very
> much. Here are the questions one last time:
>
> 1. From 1 to 10, How do you rate ACOS?
>
> 2. Which section of ACOS do you like best?
> (I,II,III,IV,V,VI, or VII)
>
> 3. Which cover tune is your favorite? (Please
> be specific like "Funeral for a Friend", not
> just Elton John.)
>
> Later everyone
>
> PS - Jason where's your response!!!????
>
> ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
> John Hough
> srvrip@qualcomm.com
>
> "Until I saw the desire for revenge, my heart never once went astray"
> "As long as I have to die in the attempt, then there is no reason"
> "To Live Forever" ---- Dream Theater
> ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 21:05:06 +0800
> From: kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
> To: bertapel@ucsu.colorado.edu
> Cc: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
> Subject: other lists
> Message-ID: <9510080405.AA11521@anthor.arastar.com>
>
> > Hey, everyone, I'm interested in getting the addresses of any other
> > lists you all are subscribed to. Especially interested in Van Halen,
> [deleted]
>
> Why not just look them up in the List of Music Mailing Lists?
>
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> --
> Ken Bibb "If the boundary breaks I'm no longer alone
> kbibb@arastar.com Don't discourage me
> jester@crash.cts.com Bring out the stars/On the first day"
> David Sylvian--"The First Day"
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 00:26:25 -0400
> From: constabl@postoffice.ptd.net (Marc Contrady)
> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
> Subject: Re: 7 string
> Message-ID: <199510080426.AAA09422@ns1.ptd.net>
>
> The acoustic guitar at the beginning of ACOS could very well be a
> six-string only using very heavy guage strings. This would allow the E to
> be tuned down to B, A to E, etc. without a dramatic loss of string tension.
> When Awake came out and I was learning Lie, Caught In a Web, and
> Mirror, this is what I did, except I used heavy guage for the E, tuning it
> down to B, and heavy guage for the A, tuning it down to E or F# ( for that
> "dropped D type feeling only with a B"). I still kept the D,G,B,and high E
> the same. This wasn't too bad because all the parts in Lie that used the A
> string could be done on a different string without too much effort.
> If I remember correctly, when Caught in a Web was transcribed in one
> of the guitar books, it was transcribed on a six-string with E tuned to B
> and A tuned to F#.
> This is cool to experiment with. Although using all heavy guage
> strings and tuning down all strings will constitute a loss of the high E.
>
> Any comments, questions, criticisms, feel free to reply.
>
> Marc Contrady
> (waiting for my Acoustic Dreams)
>
> (I think this is how you spell guage?)
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 21:47:56 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
> Subject: Re: Ozric Tentacles
> Message-ID: <199510080447.AA19498@crl7.crl.com>
>
> Someone asked about Ozric Tentacles -- I'd recommend the live release
> LIVE UNDERSLUNKY. It's an import and hard to get in this country --
> I suggest sending email to ranjit@netcom.com (my source), or contact
> your favorite obtainer of rare antiquities. :) I can't -wait- for
> these guys to return for a live show....
>
>
>
> --
> +--- Paul W. Cashman vanyel@crl.com http://www.crl.com/~vanyel ---+
> | Rush * Robert Jordan * Queensryche * Michael Moorcock * Metallica |
> | James P. Hogan * Dream Theater * Robert Heinlein * NIN * Dead |
> | Can Dance * Mercedes Lackey * Blue Oyster Cult * Raymond Feist....|
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 23:46 EST
> From: 191547620@UCIS.VILL.EDU (Stefan T. Rau)
> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
> Subject: Song & album titles
> Message-ID: <m0t1miH-00002cC@donews.cts.com>
>
>
> Greetings, all.....
>
> Someone was asking about songs that have the same titles as albums other than
> the one they're on.....I'm not sure if this really counts, but....
> They Might Be Giants released their self-titled debut album in 1986, but
> the song "They Might Be Giants" ended up on their third album, Flood. I
> still think it would've been really cool if the band, the album, and the
> song all had the same name....but then again, I'm easily amused......:-)
>
> --Sven
>
> P.S. Am I the only one on this list that absolutely loves TMBG?? They're
> nothing at all like DT, so I wouldn't necessarily recommend them, but still
> very cool......
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 00:20:28 -0400
> From: JamesArin@aol.com
> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
> Subject: Howard Wiener's 6:00 lyric interp.
> Message-ID: <951008002028_118742876@emout06.mail.aol.com>
>
> Howard I remember when Awake first came out I read an interview w/ JP about
> the new album. When asked how long the band knew that Kevin was leaving John
> said that the lyrics in 6:00 were Kevs way of saying he needed to follow his
> own path. After seeing this I went back and read the lyrics and it almost
> caused tears to flow. John also said that Innocence Faded was his way of
> telling Kev that he felt Kev was growing apart from the rest of the group.
>
> 6:00
> "Finally found the sound but he's in too deep" - The HE is Kevin and the
> SOUND is Kevs new direction i.e. his demos.
> "Feel like blowing my cover" - Kevin wants to tell the band he needs to move
> on.
> Read all the lyrics in this song from this view and it fits.
>
> Innocence Faded
> "Passionless stage Distant like brothers" - John saying he sees Kevin isn't
> realy into it any more.
>
> Jim Colberg (RWYW-STR Read What You Want- Skip The Rest) :^)
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 01:52:03 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1012
> Message-ID: <199510080552.BAA12792@umbc9.umbc.edu>
>
> Please be sure to let us all know if anyone finds out any info on this
> DT/Qryche show in DC!!!! That would be the SHIT!!!
>
> I wonder who would open? (I'm sure you can guess who *I* would pick.)
> Even if it was a dual headlining thing, like 2hours each, I still wouldn't
> wanna see DT 1st and then be let down a bit by Qryche. Maybe they
> could both set up and play together like a dualing banjo thing!!!
> I don't think even Wilton and DeGarmo together could keep up with some
> of Johns playing!! :) Geoff could sing some harmonies with James, that
> would be pretty cool! (I still think echolyn should have come out and
> sang the backup vox on Take the Time).
>
> BTW - anyone have the lyrics to Cry For Freedom? (And yes, it DOES have
> lyrics, I just can't make them out when Chris Collins is singing cause most
> of it is beyond the range of the human ear).
>
> Also, any James' fans should check out some Winter Rose stuff (his previous
> band, in case you didn't know). I was listening to a live tape the
> other day and he was excellent!! Very smooth and possibly even a higher
> range than he has now! Anyone know if they have any studio material
> or even studio demos? I only know of 1 or 2 live shows.
>
> BTW - James said Fuck at the Winter Rose show too. :)
>
>
> --
> **************************************************************************
> * Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu *
> * *
> * You're fighting the weight of the world, *
> * and no one can save you this time. *
> * Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. *
> * *
> * "Take the Time" - Dream Theater *
> **************************************************************************
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 8 Oct 95 02:55:02 -0400
> From: tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen)
> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
> Subject: Trey's daily #'d (short) random DT thoughts
> Message-ID: <9510080655.AA10243@junix.ju.edu>
>
> 1)
> >>You know, I don't think I could live very well without Dream Theater
> >>music. Don't worry, I'm not getting suicidal or anyhting, it's just
> >>that it's so much more than just notes. It means more to me than any
> >>other music.
> >
> >Get a grip Ben Laussade! Life will deal you cards that are much harder
> >to play than that.
>
> Bull Mike C.! In my opinion my life would be horrible if someone denied me
> my DT rights! I am being totally honest this isn't a joke...(notice no
> smile face)
>
> 2)
> >If african
> >Americans would stop acting like victims of society perhaps they would
> >cease to become as such.
> Great thought Mike C!
>
> 3)
> Does anyone know the time (numbers not signature) in ACOS when the metronome
> can be heard. Someone posted about that and I didn't right it down (thought
> I could remember :)
>
> 4)
> >i taped the
> > portnoy drum clinic in houston on DAT. amazing sound. i asked about a
> > possible tape tree for it and got absolutely no response, so i guess no
> > no one cares
>
> Well I tried to get a DT boot tape tree or dub site list going also and
> noone mailed me the boots they had and were willing to dub. Its not my loss
> though (except for hte fact that I feel personally responsible to shrare DT
> to every open ear). I have fairly many boots and was just trying to make it
> easier to let others enjoy them also.
>
> 5)
> Comeono guys lets get the time line DT song giudes going! (The minutes of DT
> songs where interesting things happen.) Ben Laussade is going to do 6:00.
> I think an appropriate one to would be Ytsejam...what do you say. Any
> comments welcome and I am sure if you have any thought about 6:00, Ben
> (laussade@enet.net) would appriciate them (hope you dont mind Ben)
>
> 6) Edit your DT page to help people!
> >Hello, I saw your mailing list on the net and I would like to take part
> >in it, so you can you please give me the information I need to get on the
> >mailing list??
> >
>
> Guys this really SUCKS. I'm glad we are getting new members, but they
> should know how to subscribe. And how are they going to do that? You must
> tell them how to on your web page. Include this in your html DT page to
> have the person send mail directly to ytsejam-request@arastar.com in order
> to subscribe. Just copy and paste the stuff between the doted lines.
>
> ------------------------------------
> <h3>To send mail to subscribe to the Dream Theater Ytsejam mailing list,
> click on the address below. Make sure the subject of your message is; <pre>
> asdf
> and the body of the text reads;
> SUBSCRIBE YTSEJAM "put your first name here" "and your last name here"
> </pre>
> <a
> href="mailto:ytsejam-request@arastar.com"><tt>ytsejam-request@arastar.com</t
> t></a>
> ----------------------------------------
>
> 7)
> Does anyone have any parts of ytsejam transcribed? Especially any of hte
> sols? (guitar and/or keys)
>
> ____________________________________________________________________________
> "...Every day there's a constant reminder of all the pleasures we shared
> together. Love is not just a passing word, it's a state of heart that goes
> on forever..." (Mike Portnoy of Dream Theater)
>
> Trey Allen - tallen@junix.ju.edu -
> http://junix.ju.edu/UsrWebPages/tallen/home.html
> _____________________________________________________________________________
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 02:08:49 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
> To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
> Subject: Killing Hand Parody
> Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91j.951008015550.38168C-100000@homer20.u.washington.edu>
>
>
>
> JAMES PEELE,
>
> What the hell possesed you to come up with those idiotic lyrics.
>
> You're the KILLING HAND you BRONCO. Get a life SOCK. Stop wasting my
>
> time with your bullshit letters.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> just kidding.
>
> the one person
> who shouldn't have found any humor
> in your lyrics
> whatsoever
>
> laughed out loud
> along with
> everyone else.
>
> :)
>
>
>
> Bafu Vai
>
>
>
> p.s. just a joke, are we cool guys? just a joke? don't flood the list with
> angry replies to drown me?
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 03:25:03 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
> To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
> Subject: YJ #1007 etc.
> Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91j.951008022436.38168E-100000@homer20.u.washington.edu>
>
> To Brian V. Cox:
>
> >i suggest you grab a guitar, hit the open E, and keep hitting it during
> >that intro. you will find that there is alot of stuff happening below
> >that :)
>
> HA! I'll have to write that one down...
>
> ----------
> To Richard Karsmakers:
>
> Yes, such a "guide" would be helpful, but it would also be a lot of work.
> Don't expect all the jammers to flock to such an idea. I can tell without
> even thinking about it that it would take hours just to do I&W. And then
> we'd have people arguing over technicalities just like they do when people
> put lyrics/tab on the Jams. Even the transcribers (Jammers with all the
> time in the world on their hands) gave no feedback. Usually I jump at
> questions like "what is Petrucci playing right here?" But what you
> suggested is a monumental project that would take a lot of people. If it
> happens at all, it's not going to happen overnight.
>
> ----------
> To Jeffrey Furry:
>
> Interesting review. I have to disagree with that part about the key
> changes. The author would have us believe, and I quote:
>
> "M>2!I;B!W:&EC:"!O;F4@:V5Y(&1E=F5L;W!M96YT(&EN(&]U<B!M=7-I8V%L
> M(&AI<W1O<GD*:&%P<&5N960@9&EF9F5R96YT;'DN("!4:&4@<&]I;G0@;VX@
> M+7!R;V<@97AC97-S+B @26X*;W5R('5N:79E<G-E+"!T:&ES('5P<FES:6YG"
>
> When we all know that sort of thing is more Myung's background than
> Portnoy's.
>
> ----------
> My contribution to a current thread:
>
> "Rock"/"Metal" bands I was into before DT:
> Extreme, Alice In Chains, Pantera, Van Halen, Queensryche, Firehouse,
> King's X, Mr. Big, Stone Temple Pilots, Metallica, Racer X, Winger, etc.
>
> Bands I was exposed to due to DT:
> Fates Warning, Rush, Pink Floyd, Marillion, Magellan, Galactic Cowboys.
>
> Bands I actually got into after listening to DT:
> Galactic Cowboys.
>
> DT influences/contemporaries that I can't stand:
> Rush, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Iron Maiden, Marillion, Magellan, Fates
> Warning.
>
> And now that I've stepped on millions of toes, on to the next blurb.
>
> ----------
>
> Okay, Fates has other albums, and due to numerous e-mails lately, I'm
> probably going to purchase "Perfect Symmetry" sometime this month.
>
> Speaking of Fates, I'd like to mention that when I joined this list, I had
> never heard of Fates Warning. All I heard here was, "If you like DT,
> you'll like FW." Then I saw DT at The Moore Theater in Seattle with FW
> opening, and everyone in line said, "They're just like DT." I remember
> that show like it was yesterday...
>
> They began with "Monument," and I didn't like it. As for the whole show,
> one guitarist had a lot of inaudible rhythm parts, the other was covering
> so many scales that no amount of volume or eq in the world would have made
> him clearer, but I could tell by his fingerings that he would probably
> sound really good on an album in a quiet room. The bassist and vocalist
> were cool, and I could understand all the words being sung, unlike that
> other vocalist we talk about so much on this list.
>
> The one fellow I noticed more than the others was the drummer, even though
> as The Drummer he wasn't able to move around the stage like the others.
> He looked kind of monstrous, and had a very noticeable "presence." Anyway,
> this guy was hitting every single piece of his kit like he had an
> important meeting to go to right after whichever song he happened to be
> playing. Either that or he REALLY had to get to a bathroom. Movement-wise,
> he reminded me of the Tasmanian Devil. I mean, you could count to ten, and
> every cymbal in front of him would be swinging, struck at least once.
>
> That might work in a solo, but he was busy ALL THE TIME. His playing was
> wild. Too wild to fit in as a member of a band. Pardon me for not knowing
> who he was: Mark Zonder, drum god extraordinaire. My impression was that
> he was incohesive and all over the place. Skilled, yes, but doing too
> much.
>
> Well, FW didn't sound "just like DT." I bought Inside Out just in case
> that show was a bad night or something. "Outside Looking In" was the only
> song I liked, and I didn't flip over the heralded "Monument." Like I said,
> I'm going to pick up Perfect Symmetry to give them another try.
>
> Now I'd like to name the band that I think FW sounds exactly like on
> Inside Out: Queensryche.
>
> ----------
>
> For those who asked, I heard "Counterparts," "Chronicles," and "Roll The
> Bones." The Rush fans I talked to said RTB was a "disappointing" Rush
> album, and that the band "really took a left turn." Can the Rush fans on
> this list explain what that means? I will say that the inlay booklet for
> "Counterparts" was masterfully put together. An awful lot of thought went
> into it.
>
> One of these days I'm going to just conform and post what I dislike about
> DT.
>
>
> Bafu Vai
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 11:28:10 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
> Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
> Subject: Re: Song & album titles
> Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.951008112600.7649B-100000@oak.liii.com>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 8 Oct 1995, Stefan T. Rau wrote:
>
> > They Might Be Giants released their self-titled debut album in 1986, but
> > the song "They Might Be Giants" ended up on their third album, Flood. I
> > still think it would've been really cool if the band, the album, and the
> > song all had the same name....but then again, I'm easily amused......:-)
> >
>
>
> Which brings up another question. What albums have been released where
> the band, the album, and a song all have the same name??
>
> I can think of a few.
>
> Andy
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 13:58:49 GMT
> From: aurora@wirehub.nl (Jan van Huizen)
> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
> Subject: Kid on ACoS
> Message-ID: <199510081358.NAA08155@nec1.wirehub.nl>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Last week I watched Oliver Stone's SF series Wild Palms, and there I noticed
> a very
> familiar looking boy. Indeed, I think it's the boy on the cover on ACoS. His
> name is
> BEN SAVAGE, and he plays the role of Cody Wyckoff, the son of Harry Wyckoff, who
> is played by James Belushi.
>
> So I think the problem is solved, it's not MP on the album ! He doesn't
> really look him,
> does he ?
>
> See ya,
> (---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------------------------------------------------------------)
> " Likely or not, it's a dream that we keep
> and at odds with our senses we'll climb
> But if faith is the answer, we're already reached it
> and if spirit's a sign, then it's only a matter of time "
>
> Kevin Moore, 1989
>
> ----[ The Silent Man ]-----
>
> (---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------------------------------------------------------------)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 11:11:43 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "Andrew Keith Garinger" <garinger@pilot.msu.edu>
> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam Mailing List)
> Subject: Keep DT underground?
> Message-ID: <199510081511.LAA41957@pilot01.cl.msu.edu>
>
> I disagree with the person who wants to keep DT underground. If you
> get tired of listening to the same things over and over on eMpTytV and the
> radio, turn them off! I almost never listen to the radio and I only watch
> MTV every other week or so when 120 Minutes is on. Everyone whines and
> complains about how repetitive radio is, but they keep on listening.
> Just turn it off and listen to your DT collection. If the unwashed masses
> want to turn your favorite band into a trend, let them. I think DT can
> withstand the pressures of popularity. They obviously know who their real
> fans are and I am doing everything I can to get people interested in new
> bands like DT. Just read my sig file! :) Ok, I'll stop now. He just hit
> one of my "buttons".
>
> Later,
> Andrew
>
> P.S. Replies and intelligent disagreement welcome.
>
> --
> Andrew Garinger
> ZBT BE
> Certified DT Fanatic
> Subcon #254
> Acoustic Dreams #60
>
> I do dubs! Just mail me at garinger@pilot.msu.edu for details.
>
> (No, DT most certainly does NOT stand for Delerium Tremens!!! Haven't you ever
> heard of Dream Theater?)
>
> Discover a new band today! Boycott "alternative" radio! Spread the word!
> DreamTheaterBadReligionALLDescendentsChinaDrum311SeedHumFretblanketLowPopSuicide
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 11:40:34 -0400
> From: AirDance@aol.com
> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
> Subject: Re: demo liner notes/dub sites/posting the FAQ to YJ
> Message-ID: <951008114033_118892476@emout06.mail.aol.com>
>
> Hey everyone,
>
> On Thursday, Oct. 5th, Kyle Mallett <krm95g@timon.acu.edu> wrote:
>
> "Somebody was king enough to copy the Kevin Moore demos for me, but neglected
> to write the song titles down. Could some kind individual please post the
> song list? Thanks in advance."
>
> I've e-mailed the information to him (in case anyone was wondering :).
>
>
> On Friday, Oct. 6th, Johnny Mastin <Johnny@motown.ge.com> wrote:
>
> "Please take me off of the Kevin Moore dubs list."
>
> Done. Thanks for helping out, Johnny, and good luck with the new job!
>
> To any dub sites who are reading this, I would _greatly_ appreciate it in the
> future if and when you want/need to close, please *e-mail* me to make
> absolutely sure that I know. (I almost overlooked Johnny's post because the
> subject heading wasn't specifically about dub sites, whoops!!)
>
>
> On Friday, Oct. 6th, our good friend Ken Bibb <kbibb@qualcomm.com> wrote, IRT
> posting the FAQ to the list on a monthly basis:
>
> "Unfortunately, it will be ignored (airdance would probably vouch for that).
> Heck, I would guess that most subscribers ignored their welcome message (at
> least from the most of the sub/unsub requests that I see ;)"
>
> Agreed, unfortunately. Are we the only people who actually read those silly
> welcome messages, Ken? ;) And I even *save* those suckers for future
> reference, EEK!! :^)
>
> Again, if anyone else needs the lyrics or liner notes for the KM demos,
> e-mail me a request!
>
>
> Take care everyone,
>
> Jennifer
> <airdance@aol.com>
> Vicky Pratt Keating tour dates:
> Oct. 11 - Eddie's Attic (9pm) - Decatur, GA
> Oct. 14 - Blue Ridge Heritage Festival - Front Royal, VA
> Oct. 18 - Virginia Western College (11:30am) - Roanoke, VA
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 12:17:47 -0400
> From: mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
> Subject: Rush
> Message-ID: <v01530500ac9da8e9160c@[199.232.46.229]>
>
> > A couple months ago I got Rush's "Moving Pictures" and
> > "2112". I was thoroughly unimpressed. About 20 minutes
> > ago, I popped 2112 into my CDRom drive on my computer (which
> > has a great speaker system) and was kinda like "Whoa",
> > trying to figure out what I hadn't liked about it the first
> > time. My opinion of Rush has completely changed in the last
> > 20 minutes. They're rather awesome.
>
> Being a giant Rush fan, I can kinda relate to that. Power Windows is
> probably my favorite Rush album but when I got it, I didn't like it much. I
> kept listening and it became my favorite. I'm glad that you gave them
> another chance and like 'em now. You probably noticed that those two albums
> are somewhat different from each other. That's the way with most Rush
> albums. Individually, there's a common theme and/or sound but it's
> different from previous albums. You should check out Power Windows and
> Counterparts!
>
> +----------------------------------------------------------+
> | Marc Respass mer@sol.iii.net |
> | http://www.iii.net/users/mer/ |
> +==========================================================+
> | Check out the Joel Rivard Group home page at |
> | http://www.iii.net/users/mer/joelpage.html |
> +----------------------------------------------------------+
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 12:29:07 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Nathan Dayspring <tsbileci@beta.loyno.edu>
> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1009
> Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.951008121751.2436E-100000@beta.loyno.edu>
>
> Hi, first I want to say that I'm new to the list, though I've been a
> Dream Theater fan for well over a year. Since I'm new, I might bring up
> some things already mentioned. If that's the case, just ignore me (just
> don't feed upon my misery or string me up for all the world to see). <G>
>
> Did anyone notice that Mike Portnoy's picture on inside of the jacket for
> ACOS looks like Ringo Starr?
>
> I'd also like to comment on the intro/outro controversy for ACOS.
> Something I've found with Dream Theater is that when they put something
> in their music, there's a purpose for it. There's a REASON the song
> begins and ends with the same acoustic chords. Think about the name of
> the song: A Change of Seasons. Now look how the seasons change during the
> year. It's a never ending cycle qith no real beginning or end. The
> seasons go from winter to spring to summer to fall and back to winter
> where the cycle repeats itself.
>
> Now, if you have a CD player with REPEAT (I'm sure most do), set ACOS on
> repeat. You hear the outro, which leads into the intro. Then you have a
> cycle of seasons just like the seasons from year to year.
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 18:39:00 +0100
> From: P.McLoughlin@bra0108.wins.icl.co.uk
> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
> Subject: RE: Satrionics
> Message-ID: <"3620*/I=P/S=McLoughlin/OU=bra0108/O=icl/PRMD=icl/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/"@MHS>
>
> --1caSmq3Scl3xrxj7R2kmxb9PoZeKGzYu
> Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> A few jams back someone slammed the new Satriani CD. I was
> nervous of listening to it after that, held it for 5 days before
> I made time (still having ACOS to love), and tapes to make for
> other (now happy) jammers. I like to spread the pleasure of
> discovering my new music, so loaded 'Joe Satriani' on Friday
> evening. I have, and love to pieces, all Joe's albums. >>>
>
> --1caSmq3Scl3xrxj7R2kmxb9PoZeKGzYu
> Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Although I love the big rockers on 'The Extremist' and the later
> work on 'Time Machine' (which was a sort of compilation of
> unreleased work from 1983 - 1993 - hence 'Time Machine'), I was
> hoping for something different this time.
>
> Well, as soon as I heard the first track I thought
>
> 'He's done it ! Just what I wanted !
>
> My allowance for the evening was just three tracks 1,4 8 all of
> which I loved, bringing my usual comment - reserved for Joe -
>
> 'That was Wonderful !'
>
> So, my advice is : listen to this album with a new ear and a new
> mind, do not expect it to be the same as the last one or two. That
> is not what 'Satrionics' is about. We expect something new from DT
> each time so why not from Joe.
>
> PS1. About the sad news of AWAKE 'in the bin', I assume you mean
> second hand - I was very sad when I went to Burbank during my
> California (dreamin') holiday and found 5 copies of AWAKE in the
> second hand section there - $7.99-$8.99.
>
> PS2 When I visited THE DREAM THEATER in Monterey I took some pics.
> I am hoping to get a friend to scan one to a .bmp file which I can
> mail to the US for someone to distribute there.
>
> PS3 I still have ytses 962 - 988 to catch up on since my holiday !
>
> Going home now to hear ACOS then 3 more tracks from 'Joe Satriani'
>
> PS4: Has anyone out there, especially in LA, heard of
> Marc Bonilla ? He is another great guitarist. I would love
> some news of him.
>
> PS5: I am glad other jammers agree with me about not using
> Mercy Fxxx.
> Patricia
>
>
> --1caSmq3Scl3xrxj7R2kmxb9PoZeKGzYu--
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
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