YTSEJAM Digest 1032
Today's Topics:
1) Something in the FAQ
by as459@ctcdbs.ctc.cummins.com (A G Stiles)
2) Chris Poland, etc.
by Kyle Mallett <krm95g@timon.acu.edu>
3) Tim Lodge
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu>
4) Malmsteen
by ORBITMIS@aol.com
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1028
by eiagm@eznet.net
6) another poll
by eiagm@eznet.net
7) dream theater
by Avery Watkins <warlock@frontier.wilpaterson.edu>
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1007
by EMRST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu
9) Lie - second solo
by Erik Wolfe <71473.371@compuserve.com>
10) ACOS Tab...
by Erik Wolfe <71473.371@compuserve.com>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1029
by Jason Jay Kirby <bassboy@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
12) more Mike stuff...
by John Nguyen <nuprin@wichita.fn.net>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1028
by Jeremy Lakatos <jeremy@grove.ufl.EDU>
14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1031
by Marc Christopher Lombardi <lombarmg@bc.edu>
15) ACOS Poll
by srvrip@qualcomm.com (John Hough)
16) two tough questions
by eiagm@eznet.net
17) one more Mike thing
by John Nguyen <nuprin@wichita.fn.net>
18) an unforgettable night
by Acoslover@aol.com
19) Trades
by Kyle Mallett <krm95g@timon.acu.edu>
20) Miscellaneous sctuff
by JennieBear@aol.com
21) my tab skills?
by "Brian V. Cox" <bvc8995@tam2000.tamu.edu>
22) MP Clinics
by laussade@enet.net (MonkeyBoy)
23) James Joyce and DT (was Re: Petrucci's mom)
by kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
24) Ytsejam Shirts
by kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
25) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1030
by kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 12:29:40 -0500
From: as459@ctcdbs.ctc.cummins.com (A G Stiles)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Something in the FAQ
Message-ID: <9510131729.AA02836@ctcsunho.cummins.com>
While perusing the DT FAQ one friday night (I'm married, I don't have
anything to do on a Friday night anymore ;) I found this:
> 4.17 What is unique about the song "A Change of Seasons"?
>
> Several things.
>
> First of all, it's the first lyrical work Mike Portnoy did. (of
> course, it is not the only vocal work Mike ever did... Mike had the
> dubious privilege of singing the end of "Surrounded" after James
> walked off the stage at one of their 1993 England shows)
[---snip---]
Does anyone know the story behind this? Was James p*ssed or ill? Have
a hot date? Why would he walk off? Is there a FAQ for the FAQ?
Andrew Stiles (A questioning mind is a growing mind)
as459@ctc.cummins.com
astil00@mail.cpbx.net
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 13:05:55 -0500 (CDT)
From: Kyle Mallett <krm95g@timon.acu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Chris Poland, etc.
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.951013130121.322A-100000@timon.acu.edu>
Greetings,
A couple weeks ago, I requested information on Chris Poland's solo
album, Return to Metalpolis. Someone was kind enough to respond, but I
mistakenly erased that message. Could this person, or any other person who
has the album please e-mail me personally? I would be greatly
appreciative.
On another note: Someone recently asked about favorite bands
other than DT. Well mine would have to be (pretty much in order):
King's X
echolyn
Rush
Yes
I hate to be too predictable with those last two, but you cannot
deny such a phenomenal body of work in either case.
Kyle Mallett
krm95g@timon.acu.edu
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 15:24:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu>
To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Tim Lodge
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.951013151946.626406E-100000@moose.uvm.edu>
Sorry to clutter the jam with this, so if your name isn't Tim
Lodge, feel free to skip this message now....Tim, I got the tape
yesterday. Thanks so much!!! I lost your address or else I would be
e-mailing you privately. I love the tape. Couple bits of trivia: Did you
know that "Toast of the Town" by Motley Crue was also recorded by a band
called Pretty Boy Floyd? I didn't know that song was Motley's. Also you
list one of the songs on the Poison demo as "Talkin' Down." I believe the
real title is "Talkin' Loud." Thanks again.
Richie
(the one who wishes Skid Row had officially recorded that nameless first song)
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 15:39:09 -0400
From: ORBITMIS@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Malmsteen
Message-ID: <951013153908_43835115@emout05.mail.aol.com>
Many digests ago, there was a reference to the Guitarist of the Year award
given out by some Japanese magazine, and that the 1st place award was given
based soley on picking speed. Then in YJ 1012 Erik Wolfe said Malmsteen
produced "Useless shred." This bothers me. Malmsteen is incredible, really.
I hope most of you have heard him. I think his guitar solos are very well
thought out. As for him playing fast...well...he does. However, I'm know he
could play faster if he just wanted to "shred." The following is quoted from
Guitar World, and is reprinted in his "Collection" cd:
"The first thing one notices about his solos, aside from the pronounced
classical infulence, is Yngwie's wickedly fast technique. 'It's not playing
fast in itself that appeals to me,' he says. 'Speed can be very dramatic if
done in addition to playing slow--it's great contrast. It's also important
to me that what I play fast will also sound good if the same notes are played
at a slower speed. The reason I play a lot of fast licks is because that's
what a lot of people want to hear, to a certain extent.
'But I don't consider myself a very fast player. I'm sure other guitarists
can play faster. What I do that a lot of other guys don't do is I don't play
things that are rubbish. I play classical runs, arpeggios and broken chords
that if player at a slower speed would sound very nice as well. But if it's
done very fast and very clean, but not necessarily as fast as someone else,
it'll appear much faster because it actually makes more sense.'"
I had responded to the 1st place "slam" earlier, (twice now) but due to some
miscommunication (Probably AOL's fault) it either never made it to YJ, or I
missed the Digest it was in. Malmsteen is awesome. Maybe he's "sold out"
but he plays very well. If you don't appreciate his music, fine, but don't
slam his playing ability, or classical-based solos. Bryan R. Adams
<ORBITMIS@AOL.COM>
P.S. Don't get me wrong...Petrucci is very very good.
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 21:33:45 +0000
From: eiagm@eznet.net
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1028
Message-ID: <199510132001.QAA02571@mail1.eznet.net>
Our friend Graham B. writes:
>Dream Theater have already sold out.
>They refused to tour the UK because they aren't quite as popular here
>as they are in the
>rest of the world, and they seemed to think that they were 'above'
>playing small venues.
>If every other rock band under the sun can tour the UK, why the hell
>can't Dream Theater?
>Graham B.
There is a difference between "selling out" and doing what you need
to do to make a living. It really doesn't make a lot of sense to
spend your early years (while your desperately trying to scrape
along) touring places that show a lack of interest in you. That's
not selling out, that's being intelligent.
"If every other rock band under the sun can write bad songs, why
the hell can't Dream Theater?" Gee, there's a good reason DT should
do something.
Mike S.
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 15:34:58 +0000
From: eiagm@eznet.net
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com, fitipmol@ibmmail.com
Subject: another poll
Message-ID: <199510132001.QAA02580@mail1.eznet.net>
Hmmmm, what are my five favorite bands beside DT?
Only Kansas is in orde rof preference:
1. Kansas
2. (Gee, now I gotta think:) Extreme
3. Rush
4. Led Zeppelin
5. Steve Morse (whatever, solo, w/ Dixie Dregs, w/ Kansas)
Honorable mentions? How about Styx, Queen, Metallica, Candlebox,
Blind Melon, Pink Floyd, Indigo Girls(!), Beethoven...
BTW - I love these polls.
Mike S.
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 16:06:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Avery Watkins <warlock@frontier.wilpaterson.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: 1@frontier.wilpaterson.edu
Subject: dream theater
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.951013160340.2132A-100000@frontier.wilpaterson.edu>
Hello My name is Avery and I would like to be part of the Dream Theater
fan club. Please e-mail me with the info. warlock@frotier.wilpaterson.edu
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 17:59:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: EMRST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1007
Message-ID: <01HWEFCT5GF699ES7W@vms.cis.pitt.edu>
Hey everyone,
I was just reading a couple of outdated jams (yes, I'm that far
behind), and saw that part of ACOS had been played on the radio, from 18:xx to
the end. I just wanted to let everyone know that I've played to whole thing
twice on my radio show. The first time was the week it came out.
Speaking of which, I want to let everyone know (many of you already
know this), that I play a lot of unsigned material on my show. It's a HR/HM
show on Sunday nights from 8-11 pm, and its a college station, so I can play
what I want. Anyway, if you're in a band, and want some airtime, send me your
CD or cassette, and some bio/promo material. Here's where to send it to.
WPTS c/o KAI
111 Mt. Lebanon Blvd. #18
Pittsburgh, PA 15228
Pass the word on.
Later,
KAI
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Date: 13 Oct 95 18:02:32 EDT
From: Erik Wolfe <71473.371@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:ytsejam@arastar.com" <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Lie - second solo
Message-ID: <951013220232_71473.371_CHU154-2@CompuServe.COM>
John Petrucci said this is actually part of "The Mirror" and "Lie" is a song
within a song.
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Date: 13 Oct 95 17:59:46 EDT
From: Erik Wolfe <71473.371@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:ytsejam@arastar.com" <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: ACOS Tab...
Message-ID: <951013215945_71473.371_CHU154-1@CompuServe.COM>
I have a bad habit of going from intro to outro when transcribing a song...
I have transcribed the first 7 minutes of ACOS thus far...
Erik
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 15:18:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jason Jay Kirby <bassboy@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1029
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.951013151820.9234B-100000@ccserver>
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't bombey (sp?) vindaloo an improv jam?
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 19:11:56 -0500 (CDT)
From: John Nguyen <nuprin@wichita.fn.net>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: more Mike stuff...
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD/.3.91.951013190436.19542A-100000@wichita.fn.net>
Hey all Jammers,
I just got back from Mike Portnoy's autograph session at Wichita's
MIDWEST Drum and Percussion shop. He was very cool. There was only
about ten other people in the whole store when I got there (actually,
my whole family -- girlfriend and daughter that is -- was there before
Mike even showed up!). So Mike was really personal and stuff.
* only thing new I found out since last time:
James LaBrie is also a father-to-be!!
So there you have it. To Mike Bahr, Portnoy said that he listened to
the CDs last night and thought they were "quite awesome"!! He thanked
you and me again and again for our efforts (he gratiously thanked me
for the printouts of the ytsejams, it gave him something to read on
the plane!).
John Nguyen
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 20:33:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jeremy Lakatos <jeremy@grove.ufl.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1028
Message-ID: <199510140033.UAA27569@palm.grove.ufl.edu>
> From: Michael.Bradley@mail.trincoll.edu (Michael Bradley)
> 2) I'm SO psyched I've found the jam. At home, my friends love DT, but here
> at school, the "hot bands" are Phish, Blues Traveller and Dave Matthews.
> It's such a coincidence that about 2000 people at my school have the EXACT
> same taste in music:) (Sure, I'm bitter).
Feel lucky. Around here the big thing is your dance/cRap stuff and
your Weezer/Green Day not-really-alterative vomit. At least Blues Traveller
and Dave Matthews are pretty good musicians, even if not quite interesting
enough for me, and Phish really IS incredible. They're actually pretty
progressive.
Hell, around here the only Phish fan I knew was the one who got me into
the band--all he had to do was let me barrow _Junta_ and I was hooked.
So you have a good pool of progressive fans to dip into. Let's try to think
of ways to move them toward Dream Theater, though it would take time.
First, you might want to start with Frank Zappa, a big influence on Phish.
Begin with HOT RATS, then go for GRAND WAZOO (focus track "Eat That Question,"
great keyboard pyrotechnics) and ONE SIZE FITS ALL (focus tracks "Inca
Roads" and "Andy," both damn tastefully progressive).
Though I can't see it myself, Gentle Giant fans find Zappa similar, so
then you might want to go for GG.
Or you might want to go from Zappa to King Crimson. I find similarities there
sometimes--some of Adrian Belew's weirdness, some of the jazziness on
IN THE WAKE OF POSEIDON, the rock with acoustic instruments on the first
two generations.
Anyway, once you get into some of the more traditional progressive groups,
just work through the ranks until you get to DT.
OR, you might want to go from Phish to Bela Fleck, who are friendly with the
band and share a lot. A good place is TALES FROM THE ACOUSTIC PLANET, a
great album with a lot of strange times. A great tune is "Bicyclops," with
Chick Corea on piano, which sounds like it's in a million time signatures
but which is only in 6/4 and 4/4...now that's class.
It could be easy to jump to Gentle Giant or some more laid-back highly
technical band from here.
OR, go from Phish or from Zappa to Mahavishnu Orchestra, BIRDS OF FIRE
and INNER MOUNTING FLAME. Focus on Jan Hammer's amazing keyboard work.
Then hit them with Billy Cobham's SPECTRUM--more Jan Hammer. Then go
directly to Kevin Moore pyrotechnics (KM seems to me a combo of Wakeman
and Hammer--what does the jam say?).
Well, what do you think?
-- If you can tolerate amateur poetry enough to do a SUCK/NOT SUCK poll,
PLEASE check out http://grove.ufl.edu/~jeremy. (jeremy@grove.ufl.edu)
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 23:45:26 -0600 (EDT)
From: Marc Christopher Lombardi <lombarmg@bc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1031
Message-ID: <Pine.PCW.3.91.951013234232.3575A-100000@[136.167.201.58]>
In response to the questions about Cassandra Fleeting:
Cassandra was the daughter of Priam, king of Troy. She was given the
gift of prophecy, but fated by Apollo never to be believed. That is all
that I know about the mythological origins of the line. I remember
looking her up when I first heard the song. I can assume that she was
fleeting out of frustration. It would suck to know the future and never
be believed. That's the way it fits into the song for me at least. I
wish that I had a book of Greek mythology....
Marc Lombardi Lombarmg@cleo.bc.edu
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 17:13:42 -0700
From: srvrip@qualcomm.com (John Hough)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: ACOS Poll
Message-ID: <199510140013.RAA25249@wizard.qualcomm.com>
Hey all,
I just wanted to let everyone know that I have the
results of the ACOS poll done. I wanted to give the
1030 or so of you that didn't reply one last chance.
The questions again are:
1. From 1 to 10 How do you rate this CD?
2. Which section of ACOS is your favorite?
(I,II,III,IV,V,VI, or VII)
3. Which cover is your favorite? (Please be
specific, don't just say Elton John. Pick one
of the 2 songs.)
To all who have responded, THANK YOU!
To all who haven't, please Email me personally.
I probably will post the results on Saturday or
Sunday. Later!
^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
John Hough
srvrip@qualcomm.com
"Until I saw the desire for revenge, my heart never once went astray"
"As long as I have to die in the attempt, then there is no reason"
"To Live Forever" ---- Dream Theater
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 20:08:28 +0000
From: eiagm@eznet.net
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: two tough questions
Message-ID: <199510140035.UAA06870@mail1.eznet.net>
Hi, folks. Just thought I'd stir some trouble up on our little list,
here. Seriously though, I've had a couple of questions on my mind
from reading several of the past digests. It would be nice if we
could have an interesting, FRIENDLY discussion about these things.
Some may notice these questions aren't about DT directly. Here's the
connection: A lot of discussion has gone on about DT selling out and
our fears about this. The following two questions have to do with
the idea of selling out and what it means. Also, I'm interested in
what people have to say about this who are DT fans, like myself.
1. I frankly don't understand why so many people view Metallica's
Black album as a sellout. Personally, I think its their best. I
enjoy their other albums too, especially Master of Puppets and Ride
the Lighting, but I find the songs on the Black album to be more
solid in a couple of ways.
For one thing, there's more consistency on the album. All the
songs are good.
The songs are very heavy, but slower, and carry more "mood"
than most of their other works (IMO). I tend to like Metal, but not
to much Thrash.
The song "Nothing Else Matters" I think may be key in many
people's assessment that they've sold out. But, it really is not so
different from their style of beginning a song with an absolutely
beautiful acoustic part, and getting heavier as they go. It's just
that in this song, they managed to mesh the two parts so brilliantly
that many non-metal fans found themselves enjoying a song that turns
into a metal song, and they barely notice! And the lyrics - ever
consider that maybe their fans are included in "Never cared for what
they say"?
What do ya'll think (if you don't know Metallica, sorry)
2. I'm gonna be brave and say it. I like Pearl Jam. I like Stone
Temple Pilots. I don't view these bands as simple commercial bands,
a lot of their stuff is just too intense to be seen so simply (again,
IMO). They aren't the musicians that DT is, of course, but that's
not the only requirement to music. I'm just interested in knowing
what people on this list. Hopefully, my coming out of the closet :)
will help others admit their musical vices!
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 19:40:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: John Nguyen <nuprin@wichita.fn.net>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: one more Mike thing
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD/.3.91.951013192454.22862C-100000@wichita.fn.net>
I forgot to mention that Mike Portnoy held my baby daughter and stood
in between my girfiend and I for the picture. There was nothing like
it!!!
John Nguyen
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Date: Sun, 1 Oct 1995 15:49:01 -0400
From: Acoslover@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: an unforgettable night
Message-ID: <951001154900_33822970@emout04.mail.aol.com>
Hello all. I am actually someone who is already on the jam, but because "I"
wish to keep my real identity anonymous, I shall use another account. You
will have to excuse me on that account, but I have my own reasons.
I have something I'd really like to share with you all, about an experience I
had last night (9/30-10/1). I don't know why I'm doing this, and you may
think it's all rubbish, but that's ok. I guess I just wanted to get this out
of me once and for all.
Last night, my girlfriend and friends did something perhaps bad; we took in
some shrooms. I decided that I was going to bring some cd's to listen to on
my "journey." I pulled out some Tori Amos, Yes' "Fragile", and a couple of
others. The last I put in (and actually became the first and only cd I
listened to all night) was ACOS. You have to picture it- it's pitch black
outside in this nature preserve in the back of my school, and we're all just
tripping face and looking at the millions of stars. Very surreal. ACOS was
fun to listen to- it didn't necessarily give me some drug-induced revelations
about the world, but it was good listening.
Some time later, after it had pretty much worn off of me, I was trying to
deal with my girlfriend, who was still going strong (it was her first time).
And she wished me to tell her stories, so I began to ramble on as best as I
could about King Lear and Titus Andronicus (how's that for opposite sides of
the spectrum?), and then she bade me to tell her a "happy story." So I began
to tell her about a boy who was growing up so young and innocent, and he
would look at the world with those callow eyes, and he would jst get pummeled
by everybody and everything in life- he had someone special in his life, and
one day, she looked him in the eye and said "I love you", and then "goodbye."
Now, are we getting somewhere? Do you all perhaps see where this is going?
Yes, my interpretation of the song may be quite "inaccurate", but I'm, afraid
that may be irrelevant at this juncture. The story continues.
I went on telling my how even after "she" left, "he" (our protagonist)was
determined to build himself back up again. Gradually, it beacme a reality,
and finally, he was back at the top again with someone special in his life
again, and towards the end, he would sit back and think happily that although
his life was ending (or perhaps just beginning), some other fledging was
about to take the long path which we can call "life."
As I was telling this story to my girlfriend, something else on a much more
REAL scale began to dawn upon me. All my life I was searching for "her", the
person who meant the most to me. When I was a little younger, I thought I had
found her, but once I was away at college, during that time when one
discovers his or her true friends, she basically told me "I love you,
goodbye."Her being out of my life was perhaps the most difficult thing I had
to go through (ironically, SHE goes to my school as well- a twist of fate, I
guess). And yet, I knew I had to move on, and grow up. Somehow, somewhere
along the line, I found someone who has evolved into the exact perosn I was
looking for since God knows when, and she was lying next to me holding me
tightly. To have this concept dawn upon me was so incredible. At this point,
it wasn't the drugs talking for me, it really was my pure emotions.I swear to
God, it was the greatest feeling I've ever had- no drug can nor ever will do
that to me.
I am fully aware of the fact that my sense of accuracy is questionable, but
do you knwo what? That's ok with me. Firstly, we are all open to our own
interpretations of music (although I actually concur with the recent opinion
posted back about how ACOS is more like a "rebellion against religion", as
I'll call it), and secondly, it's just nor all that relevant. I'd just like
to say that ACOS (directly or indirectly I'm uncertain) did something HUGE to
me. Thank you all, and if Mr. Portnoy happens to catch this, THANK YOU!.
Please do not reply to me personally, as i will terminate this ASAP. Put it
on the jam. Thanks.
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 22:29:20 -0500 (CDT)
From: Kyle Mallett <krm95g@timon.acu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Trades
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.951013222349.5478G-100000@timon.acu.edu>
I have been posting a lot lately, but I suppose that's what this
thing IS for anyway.
I have gotten some cool stuff lately. I am listeing to
Queensryche playing Revolution, by the Beatles right now. The next song
is Gimme Shelter by the Stones with Anne and Nancy Wilson of Heart on
guest vocals. Before that was a live version of Anybody
Listening? I also have a real good copy of a show they did in San Jose
that was broadcast on the radio.
As well, I have DT's Mind Control bootleg, the Ronnie Scott's show
(the whole thing).
I am looking for trades. I am interested in stuff by DT, King's
X, Galactic Cowboys, echolyn, Rush (harder to find live versions), as well
as any other stuff.
E-mail me personally if you want to trade.
Kyle Mallett
krm95g@timon.acu.edu
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Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 00:07:32 -0400
From: JennieBear@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Miscellaneous sctuff
Message-ID: <951014000732_44234105@mail02.mail.aol.com>
Okay, so I am now *finally* getting to my blurb about the Dream Theater...
(Might have gotten to it sooner if it weren't for the five 'jams that seem
to come in each day. <g>)
About a month or so ago, as many of you know, Keith and I went to Monterey,
CA. (Besides being the birthplace of the name "Dream Theater," it holds
special sentimental value for us...) I knew some approximate directions to
the theater (thanks Kevin and Jarrod!), so, as we drove into town on
Lighthouse, I kept looking for the intersection for Prescott. I really
didn't have to look that hard because, lo and behold, I looked off to the
lefthand side of the road and saw a very psychedelic, Tiffany-esque (not the
singer, the lamp maker <g>) sign reading The Dream Theater. We didn't stop
by that evening, but we did plan to stop by the next day.
Next morning, we stop by "the Dream," as it is affectionately called by the
locals. Three sides of the building have similar signs to the one we saw
while driving into town. The front of the building has a drawing of a
woman's head, with her hair following out behind her head in a wave.
Although the theater itself was not open yet, we did peek inside, through
the glass panels in the door. *Very* interesting interior as well. It's
sort of art deco meets psychedelica. There's all these old movie posters and
funky patterned carpeting. I guess the imagery is kind of fitting,
considering how our favorite band is - the unique mix.
These days, it's an art house theater (they were showing "Unzipped" and the
Italian film "The Postman"). In the past it was one of those mainstream
theaters that showed a lot of midnight movies, like "The Wall." It's still a
very beloved place, at least that's the impression we got from speaking with
some of the locals.
So, if you're ever in the area, check it out...
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I suppose I should direct this to Jen Albert... I've often wondered about
the significance of some of the lyrics in "Lie," and since you know Kev, I
thought maybe you could enlighten me. :) The lyric that really sticks in my
head is "I wanna talk about lifelong mistakes, and you can tell your
stepfather I said so." It seems really clear that Kevin is relating some
personal experience, but what?
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What songs would you recommend for introducing a fan of Slayer, Metallica, et
al to Dream Theater? Somebody I work with is really into this stuff, and his
friend apparently purchased a Dream Theater album (I think it was "Awake")
but re-sold it. This guy doesn't think he can ever get into Dream Theater
because he and the friend have similar tastes. I figure it can't be hopeless
<g> because there's a number of 'jammers into pretty heavy stuff. (Not that
I don't listen to this stuff at times, but, then I listen to almost
everything...I'm starting to really appreciate Metallica because they sort of
pioneered "thrash.")
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Almost done. <g> Wanted to say hello to yet another FidoNet person, William
W. We'll convert the PROGROCK guys to DT just yet! <g>
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Mike Bahr: I think you should really call the next CD project "Mercy F*ck."
<g> I mean, the CD projects started with the 'jam, and that line has sort of
become an inside joke! :D
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Okay, so it was a little long...I also haven't posted so much in the last
month - deal with it! :)
Jen
-- "Could we see clearer in a virtual reality?" - Magellan "I am the beat of your pulse/the computer word made flesh" - Queensrychejenniebear@aol.com kethry@netcom.com
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 23:58:07 -0500 (CDT) From: "Brian V. Cox" <bvc8995@tam2000.tamu.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: my tab skills? Message-ID: <199510140458.XAA01776@tam2000.tamu.edu>
> From: Corporate Community Relations <buckley@powdml.ENET.dec.com> > Subject: Re: ACOS TAB Project
> >Brian Cox has already started transcribing the beginning of ACOS as > >posted in YtseJam #1000. > > True, Brian took a stab at The Crimson Sunrise in Jam #1000, but not all > of what he posted was correct. In one instance, there is an interval of > a tritone which Brian transcribed as a Perfect 4th! > > The ACOS TAB Project seems like a novel idea, but I think you'll have to > take into account inaccuracies from untrained ears. Not a particular > slam on anyone, but if most of the guitar TAB i've seen posted to the net > to date is any indication of people's general transcription skills, well, > I suggest you wait until the sheet music comes out. ;')
when i posted that, i said that i just did it quickly on a tuned down classical guitar. sorry if i made an error. i asked for anyone to email me suggestions or mistakes. i guess i just wont bother posting anymore.
in case you dont recall, i tabbed out all of the old intro to ACOS, including the 17/8 part. i didnt see any complaints about that. as for "untrained ears" i want you to tell me where there is a tritone that i transcribed as a 4th, i dont remember even having any intervals/chords on there, it was all single note.
you can count me out of the ACOS tab project, i dont wanna spend my time laboring over it only to be critized. let mr golden ears here do it...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Brian V. Cox~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I built a wall around my garden Rush When people started telling me what to grow, Dream Theater It's cold and callous and throws a heavy shadow, King's X Over the field I choose to call my own Queensryche I hate the wall and its selfish display echolyn My garden becoming sterile in its pretentiousness, Fates Warning My direction lost in shallow righteousness Tori Amos There's something wrong with this... DAT Taper/Trader... Suffocating the bloom...and every blossom" -echolyn ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~lerxst@tamu.edu~~~~~~~http://http.tamu.edu/~bvc8995~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 22:13:22 -0700 From: laussade@enet.net (MonkeyBoy) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: MP Clinics Message-ID: <199510140513.WAA09680@maple.enet.net>
Hello Ytse-persons, Could somebody let me know where and when Mike Portnoy is giving his drum clinics? Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
"They call me Mr. Knowitall, *Dream Theater* And I am very eloquent, *Metallica***** Perfection is my middle name, *Megadeth****** Err...whatever rhymes with eloquent." *Primus******** Les Claypool
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Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 00:05:17 +0800 From: kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: James Joyce and DT (was Re: Petrucci's mom) Message-ID: <9510140705.AA21248@anthor.arastar.com>
> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 16:04:19 -0400 (EDT) > From: kristopher long <long16@matrix.newpaltz.edu> > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: Petrucci's mom > Message-ID: <199510122004.QAA24849@matrix.newpaltz.edu> > [deleted] > That reminds me, does anybody know where those people talking in > "6:00" is from?
Huston's "The Dead" (a movie adaptation of the James Joyce short story from "Dubliners", currently available separately from Penguin Books).
-- Ken Bibb "If the boundary breaks I'm no longer alone kbibb@arastar.com Don't discourage me jester@crash.cts.com Bring out the stars/On the first day" David Sylvian--"The First Day"
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Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 00:10:08 +0800 From: kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Ytsejam Shirts Message-ID: <9510140710.AA21332@anthor.arastar.com>
> > Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 20:33:15 -0500 > From: Michael.Bradley@mail.trincoll.edu (Michael Bradley) > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: DT at El 'n Gee > Message-ID: <v01520d00aca3705d311b@[157.252.65.110]> > > Hey all! > > I'm going to keep this one short. [deleted]
> 3) Ytsejam t-shirts?
Yup. Here's what jgiles@crl.com has to say about them (Please note the OCTOBER 15 Deadline):
> The shirts are black 100% pre-shrunk cotton, with the Majesty logo on > the front breast. Underneath it 'ytesejam the internet mailing digest' > is written. On the back there is a large DREAM THEATER logo, with 'let > the light surround' you written in greyish, glow in the dark ink. > > The cost is $14 each, domestic shipping included. Foreign shipping is > an additional $4 per item (except Australia and Germany, who add $6 per > item). There is no increase for Canadian orderers. > > Sizes are S, M, L, XL, XXL (+$1.00), XXXL (+$1.50). My deadline for > orders is October 15th, 1995. Please send your money, as I plan on > ordering by that date, and having them by the end of October for > shipment to all orderers. Send money to Jason Giles, 3200 Payne Ave. > #525, San Jose, CA 95117. Checks or cash, or money orders are fine > (the non-bouncing kind of check is the only kind I'll accept. ;-)) > > Please e-mail me your order, with (1) size, (2) quantity, (3) YOUR > SHIPPING address, (4) your e-mail address and (5) how much your sending > me. I will confirm your order via e-mail, at which time you should > send out the money. > > Orders or questions: e-mail me at JGILES@CRL.COM > > View them on-line before ordering: > > WWW: http://www.crl.com/~jgiles/shirts.html FTP: ftp.crl.com, > directory: /users/jg/jgiles, login: anon., passwd:e-mail add > > files via anonymous ftp are GIFs or UUE files. Check em out! > now back to your regularly scheduled program...
-- Ken Bibb "If the boundary breaks I'm no longer alone kbibb@arastar.com Don't discourage me jester@crash.cts.com Bring out the stars/On the first day" David Sylvian--"The First Day"
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Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 00:13:50 +0800 From: kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1030 Message-ID: <9510140713.AA21373@anthor.arastar.com>
> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 01:13:42 +0000 > From: "Robert Quezada" <rquezada@monmouth.com> > To: BRYZAW@ssv004.ssd.loral.com > Cc: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: Re: Unsubscribing to the jam > Message-ID: <199510130521.BAA13759@shell.monmouth.com> > > > Does anyone know how to unsubscribe from the jam? Ive tried > > the directions from the DT FAQ and it did not work. > > > > Thanks for any help. > > I believe it says to use a subject line of "asdf" but if you change > the subject to the same as the line in the body of the message, it > should work.
NO! DON'T DO THIS!!!!!
> It worked for me when I changed my e-mail address on > the 'jam.
It worked for you because I had to *manually* process your request because the software rejected your message's subject line!
I've looked at the code. I've seen hundreds of these bounce. Do *NOT* include a command in the subject line! Use "asdf" or a blank line.
Once again (yet again) the way to unsubscribe is to send:
unsubscribe ytsejam
to ytsejam-request@arastar.com with a subject of "asdf". If you put "unsubscribe" in the subject or send the request to ytsejam@arastar.com, the request will probably be silently rejected by the stupid software. So please follow the directions! :)
-- Ken Bibb "If the boundary breaks I'm no longer alone kbibb@arastar.com Don't discourage me jester@crash.cts.com Bring out the stars/On the first day" David Sylvian--"The First Day"
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