YTSEJAM digest 1031

From: ytsejam@arastar.com
Date: Fri Oct 13 1995 - 07:22:52 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 1031

    Today's Topics:

      1) Joe Satriani. Sorry! no DT.
     by "Abu Shams M. Ahmed" <mmahmed@mtu.edu>
      2) "...Cassandra Fleeting..."
     by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
      3) YJ #1025-1026
     by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
      4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1029
     by coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
      5) Details of ytsejam shirts.
     by D.L.Powell-CSSE94@cs.bham.ac.uk
      6) YJ #1027-1028
     by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
      7) RE: UK Single Perfect Strangers and DI
     by P.McLoughlin@bra0108.wins.icl.co.uk
      8) RE: Bombay Vindaloo live?
     by P.McLoughlin@bra0108.wins.icl.co.uk
      9) Get that stick out of your ass, Graham!
     by haiders@kenyon.edu
     10) anybody out there?..
     by kappenm@uni-muenster.de
     11) Re: ACOS TAB Project
     by Corporate Community Relations <buckley@powdml.ENET.dec.com>
     12) Lie
     by B9450389 <b9450389@hud.ac.uk>
     13) to Mike re: Acoustic Dreams
     by "cam (c.s.) wilson" <camw@bnr.ca>
     14) Japan PPV Video
     by Brandon Vaughn <EDLEADER@uwf.cc.uwf.edu>
     15) Why Petrucci hates boots? / missing part in ACOS
     by Brandon Vaughn <EDLEADER@uwf.cc.uwf.edu>
     16)
     by E. Waldron <EWALDRON@RGSPS.WPO.UKANS.EDU>
     17) Re: JP clinic
     by "Jonathan Byrne" <RRI02@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU>
     18) Ozric Tentacles!
     by "Kevin G. Villines" <kvillin@comp.uark.edu>
     19) Cassandra
     by jpgarrett@earthlink.net (James Garrett)
     20) Re. sellout
     by Martin Hayter <100734.464@compuserve.com>
     21) WRONG SONG!!!
     by JIMMY <bd30011@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu>
     22) NDTC -- Ozric Tentacles & Satch
     by mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
     23) Subconscious and Acoustic Dreams
     by UJELOSBY@msuvx2.memphis.edu
     24) US vs Japan Ibanez JPM100s
     by Brandon Vaughn <EDLEADER@uwf.cc.uwf.edu>
     25)
     by "WOLLSCHLAGER JEFFREY A" <WOLLSCHLAGEJ@warp.msoe.edu>
     26) The ACOS TAB Project (repost)
     by Brandon Vaughn <EDLEADER@uwf.cc.uwf.edu>
     27) Same name
     by K2VanHalen@aol.com
     28) *** Thank You Letter to DT *** --LAST CALL!!!
     by mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM

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    Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 03:48:53 -0400 (EDT)
    From: "Abu Shams M. Ahmed" <mmahmed@mtu.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Joe Satriani. Sorry! no DT.
    Message-ID: <199510130748.DAA05080@colossus.csl.mtu.edu>

    hi all,

    just found out that Joe's got official web site now it's at
    http://www.satriani.com

    it's kinda cool but they are still working on most of the stuff. the
    bad thing is he is not touring the U.S. for at least the next two months
    and the site does not say anything about U.S. dates.

    as for DT....the guitarists wve picked up ACOS does JP do this when
    every one is doing that cromatic crazeness??

    E|--9-10-11-12---------------------------------------------------------------
    B|--------------------------9-10-11-12---------------------------------------
    G|--------------9-10-11-12--------------------------9-10-11-12---------------
    D|--------------------------------------9-10-11-12--------------------------9
    A|--------------------------------------------------------------9-10-11-12---
    E|---------------------------------------------------------------------------

    E|-----------------------|----------------------------------------------------
    B|-----------------------|----------------------------------------------------
    G|-----------------------|------%---------------------------------------------
    D|-10-11-12--------------|----------------------------------------------------
    A|-----------------------|----------------------------------------------------
    E|-----------9-10-11-12--|----------------------------------------------------

    Sorry this is my first shot at writing tabs but I hope you'll get the idea of
    what i'm talking about:)....but anyway .....comments or corrections are most
    welcome.

    thanx

    Minhaz.

    ------------------------------

    Date: Thu, 12 Oct 95 22:30:39 PDT
    From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: "...Cassandra Fleeting..."
    Message-ID: <9510130530.AA04493@tengs1.teng>

    >
    > I have seen some of the DT song interpreted but one I have
    > missed is "The Mirror"
    >
    >
    > I grasped most of it, but can't figure out who Cassandra was/is...
    >
    > (I'll try to quote the lyrics now)
    > "just like Cassandra fleeting
    > Twentieth century icon bleeding"
    >
    > Andy
    >

    This subject came up some time ago. Cassandra was the daughter
    of King Priam of Troy. I did a few searches of the Greek classics
    archived at MIT, searching for both "Cassandra" and "fleeting"
    but failed to find the exact phrase. I believe someone else
    posted the source, or at least why the phrase came to be. It
    probably came from some classic poem alluding to the stories of
    Troy. I believe I've heard the phrase before DT's reference, but
    I'm not sure. Hmm. I guess that didn't help too much.

    Zach

    ------------------------------

    Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 01:19:23 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
    To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: YJ #1025-1026
    Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91j.951013004010.86987A-100000@homer03.u.washington.edu>

    I have yet to read through YJ #1027, so sorry if some of this stuff has
    already been commented on.
     
    To Michael Bradley:
    I identified that opening, drawn-out holler in "Bombay Vindaloo" a while
    back. If you watch the Simpsons you will know who I'm talking about when I
    say it is BARNEY!! Really, just imagine his inebriated self at a Dream
    Theater concert, only screaming instead of belching.

    Also, I have a comment on what you wrote about Scarred. Yes, the song is
    drum-complex, and that could definitely be a reason it was not played on
    the Awake tour. But...

    Has anyone ever thought of that poor guy who had to learn mountains of
    material mere months (many much m's) before Dream Theater started their
    grand tour? His name was Derek Sherinian. He learned at an inhuman pace,
    unless he was so much of a fan of DT's work BEFORE getting into the band
    that he could already play all of Kevin's material.

    Perhaps "Scarred" was asking a little too much of our friend Derek. He DID
    learn a TON of stuff in so short a time, and I respect him for that
    achievement. I think the main reason "Scarred" wasn't on the tour was
    because they could only cram so much music into Derek in so short a time,
    so there might have been a "What's one song? Besides, if we skip this one,
    it will give ALL of us a break considering how long and complex it is."
    attitude among the band members. They avoid pushing too much on him, and
    at the same time don't have to play through it every night.

    Ok, I take that one part back, one song is A LOT because obviously every
    fan in the world noticed, but you have to give Derek a pat on the back for
    learning the eight songs he did from "Awake." This reminds me of all the
    Ytsejammers who complained about Derek missing some of his cues and
    whatnot during the Awake tour. Give me a break! Give HIM a break!

    ----------
    To Mike Rappazzo:
    It was I who paralleled "The Silent Man" with the Oedipus Rex story. I
    will try to re-post what I wrote so long ago, if I can find it. Wow,
    someone noticed AND remembered something I wrote...

    ----------
    To All: (random comments regarding my posting about "Slow Motion")

    1. I received quite a few e-mails inquiring about it.

    2. Yes, it is a real song despite the fact that all Ytsejammers do not
    have a bootleg of it and it isn't on a discography anywhere.

    3. Has anyone else ever heard of this song?

    4. I will post the tab of "Petrucci's Ladder" soon. This is a definite
    scale, and of course I made up that name. I name lots of licks and
    techniques because it helps me to better remember them, as opposed to
    calling something "Paul Gilbert 1.4"

    5. To those I wrote back to, I take back what I said because my brain was
    not functioning. Pay no attention to what I wrote. Your e-mails woke me up
    to something I had completely forgotten.

    6. I will have more to post in a few days if I vehemently address what I'm
    thinking *right* *now*. And I WILL get on it right now because the 'Jams
    have been good to me. I have this peculiar feeling that a few folks will
    be ytse, ytse interested. Yes, I'll post alllll about it... This silenzio
    will be broken...

    Bafu Vai

    p.s. Mike Bahr, what size shoes do you wear?

    ------------------------------

    Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 01:48:53 -0700
    From: coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1029
    Message-ID: <199510130848.BAA13671@ix3.ix.netcom.com>

    ************************************************************************
    A triple of threads here jammers:

    1.)
    >From: Matthew Sirois
    > Are DT in the habit of playing Bombay Vindaloo live? Has anyone
    >ever seen it performed? How common is it?
    > Thanks!

    I saw DT do Bombay Vindaloo in Dallas the second time I saw them (it was
    outdoors at Dallas City Limits a club in Dallas of course. I've seen DT
    two other times here in Dallas (indoors) but they didn't cover Bombay
    Vindaloo on those occasions.
     
    > My fanstasy set list: PMU, ACOS, Scarred, TLF, Bombay Vindaloo,
    > an improv jam, Metropolis.

    Except for PMU I agree with you on all the above Matt.

    2.)
    To Mike Bahr:
    Thanks for looking up John 3:16, and posting it in the Y-Jam. I hope
    you weren't the only one who looked it up. James Garrett probably did
    if he couldn't remember it by heart.

    3.)
    Did you guys/girls catch the post of the interview with J. Labrie? I
    not telling you I told you so, that's not appropriate. But I did state
    in a previous Y-jam about using profanity in the studio and how DT was
    an intellectual band with a progressive bent and that I thought they
    were above that. I'm was blessed/blown away to here James's comments on
    why they changed mercy f... to sympathy. How bout the rest of you>. If
    you missed it (the interview with James) write me and I'll send it to
    you. It is not complete but it has enough for me.

     "...people in prayer for me, everyone there for me sometimes I feel I
         should face this alone, my soul exposed it calms me to know that I
         won't."
        from Scarred.
                         
        God Bless!
                                   \ /
    Michael C. the politically incorrect (sometimes) :)----
                                                        / \

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    Date: Fri, 13 Oct 95 10:04:36 BST
    From: D.L.Powell-CSSE94@cs.bham.ac.uk
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Details of ytsejam shirts.
    Message-ID: <4260.9510130904@mungo.cs.bham.ac.uk>

    Could somebody please mail me with the details for the ytsejam T-shirts. I
    have lost my saved mail and would like to know who to get in touch with to
    make the order how much they cost, (including shipping fee to the UK), and
    sizes available etc.

    Cheers.
    Damian Powell.

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    Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 02:31:31 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
    To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: YJ #1027-1028
    Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91j.951013015726.86987D-100000@homer03.u.washington.edu>

    Aaahhhhh... Nice long 'Jams...

    ----------
    To Robert Quezada:

    I second the motion. I appreciate Mike Bahr's statements. Not that I mind
    reading anyone's long posts nor do I mind writing them, because this is
    still a 30,000-60,000-characters-per-digest mailing list that takes me a
    long time to read, so one long post doesn't make any difference to me. If
    you get it as a digest, you read through it with all the other opinions in
    this ocean and swim on. If you get the posts one by one, you can zap the
    big ones as as they enter your mailbox. Either way I don't see why it's
    such a big deal.

    ----------
    To Warren:

    I found your "asshole" post to be about as disturbing as the first time I
    listened to "Good Friends And A Bottle Of Pills" by Pantera. Perhaps you
    meant for it to relate to the song with all your talk of headaches and
    Tylenol... (yes I laughed)

    ----------
    To Mike Bahr:

    You see, the thing about my humor is that I usually weave it into what I
    happen to be saying at the time. You, oh Jesty One, have opted for a
    served-on-a-silver-platter routine. That last joke was, to quote good old
    Ross Perot, "HI-larious!" but I am going to assume you have erased the
    word "subtle" from your Ytsejam Guide To Normal Humorous Postings. :)

    (hmmm...who said he was normal in the first place?)

    ----------
    On Outdoor Places:

    Were some of you talking about that huge outdoor stage surrounded by
    gigantic walls of orange and tan rock? I've seen it in many videos, namely
    Firehouse's "All She Wrote." What's the name of it?

    ----------
    On the Petrucci-Clinic postings: (no, I wasn't there)

    CHOPIN'S FUCKING ETUDE #2???!!!!! Did I ever mention how every time I hear
    John Petrucci play something I haven't heard him play before I am
    absolutely blown away?! Really, the solo of "To Live Forever" hit me after
    Awake, then it was a recording of "Barfbag," then it was the Live In Tokyo
    Video's extended solo to "To Live Forever," then it was "Moon Bubbles,"
    then it was a solo-spot from a 1987 instrumental show, etc. Now this guy
    is playing CHOPIN?!?!

    I can believe it, but I can't imagine it. Okay, I can try to imagine it,
    but gracious me...

    ----------
    To WildKoba:

    HAHA!! "Miracle" and "Sleeper!" Too perfect! Write that to Michael Kizer
    and ask for a special-request late mail-in. Petrucci would surely get a
    kick out of it. As for his wife, it sounds like she's got enough kicks to
    worry about.

    Bafu Vai

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    Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 13:14:33 +0100
    From: P.McLoughlin@bra0108.wins.icl.co.uk
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: RE: UK Single Perfect Strangers and DI
    Message-ID: <"3667*/I=P/S=McLoughlin/OU=bra0108/O=icl/PRMD=icl/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/"@MHS>

    I asked about this in my record shop when I bought ACOS. They
    had no information about it. I will keep asking.
                     Patricia

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    Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 13:37:51 +0100
    From: P.McLoughlin@bra0108.wins.icl.co.uk
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: RE: Bombay Vindaloo live?
    Message-ID: <"3668*/I=P/S=McLoughlin/OU=bra0108/O=icl/PRMD=icl/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/"@MHS>

    I was the THE MARQUEE when LATM was recorded. As it was my
    first DT concert, after having only I&W for only 4 weeks, I did
    not know their material very well. I really love that track on
    LATM.
                    Patricia

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    Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 08:52:31 EST
    From: haiders@kenyon.edu
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Get that stick out of your ass, Graham!
    Message-ID: <00997CD1.B1D27820.5@kenyon.edu>

    Graham--
            What are you thinking? How can you even accuse DT of selling out. Do
    you think that Portnoy and Petrucci book all their gigs? They have a record
    company and a management company. If both these people don't feel that UK
    shows will be profitable, then they won't let DT do them. I don't think DT is
    large enough to pressure the record company into letting them do what they
    want.
            If you're angry, then all the UK DT fans need to let East/West Records
    know how they feel and that they will pay to see their favorite band. Don't
    bash the band for something that is out of their hands.

    Sean Haider
    bassist, INTROSPECTION

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    Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 13:48:46 +0100 (MEZ)
    From: kappenm@uni-muenster.de
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: anybody out there?..
    Message-ID: <9510131248.AA52011@asterix.uni-muenster.de>

    hi there,

    only a few minutes ago I got the reply that I'm on the list, so I just
    wanted to say hi to every DT - worshipper out there!!
    It's nice to know there are others just like us, so if anyone has some time
    for a chat, drop by!
    Does anybody know when or if the other cover songs not included on ACOS are
    planned to be released? I'm still hoping to get the YES-medley with
    godfather Steve Howe on guitar...

    cheers,

    - martin

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    Date: Fri, 13 Oct 95 08:52:38 EDT
    From: Corporate Community Relations <buckley@powdml.ENET.dec.com>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: ACOS TAB Project
    Message-ID: <9510131249.AA02015@us2rmc.zko.dec.com>

    Brandon Vaughn <EDLEADER@uwf.cc.uwf.edu> wrote:

    Subject: ATTN: ALL Guitarists -- ACOS TAB Project

    >Here is the complete TAB for ACOS....
    >
    >I wish! Seriously, if a couple of us guitarists would do a little
    >work, we could TAB the whole thing out easily. Here is what I suggest.
    >Interested persons let me know.
    >
    >The ACOS TAB Project
    >--------------------
    >
    >Brian Cox has already started transcribing the beginning of ACOS as
    >posted in YtseJam #1000.

    True, Brian took a stab at The Crimson Sunrise in Jam #1000, but not all
    of what he posted was correct. In one instance, there is an interval of
    a tritone which Brian transcribed as a Perfect 4th!

    The ACOS TAB Project seems like a novel idea, but I think you'll have to
    take into account inaccuracies from untrained ears. Not a particular
    slam on anyone, but if most of the guitar TAB i've seen posted to the net
    to date is any indication of people's general transcription skills, well,
    I suggest you wait until the sheet music comes out. ;')

    Happy rails, ....
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    Disclaimer: The opinions expressed above are my own. They are not expressed on
    behalf of, nor are they associated with, my employer Digital Equipment Corp. or
    any specific non-for-profit organization I have affiliation with.

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    Date: Fri, 13 Oct 95 12:50:00 bst
    From: B9450389 <b9450389@hud.ac.uk>
    To: 'Ytsejam' <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: Lie
    Message-ID: <307E52F1@hermes.hud.ac.uk>

    I finally got connected this week after the summer and I have a few things
    to ask and say. So here goes.

    1. Where can I get hold of the Lie single?

    2. What is this Acoustic Dreams CD? What is on it and can I still get it?

    3. In one of the digests I read that there were 2 other cameras at Ronnie
    Scotts. Well
        one of them was for a program called Noisy Mothers. They played
    Achillies Last
        Stand, Damage Inc, and another song just after the gig had taken place.

    Well thats it for now

    Ian

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    Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 08:55:00 -0400
    From: "cam (c.s.) wilson" <camw@bnr.ca>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: to Mike re: Acoustic Dreams
    Message-ID: <"7837 Fri Oct 13 06:21:57 1995"@bnr.ca>

    for Mike (Acoustic Dreams guy):

    i was just wondering about the availability of AD these days.
    i did read the posting with all the details about the CD but
    since $$ has been so short lately, i passed it by, thinking
    i'd never scrape up the cash for it. well, if this disc is
    gonna be around for a while, will i have a chance to grab it
    a little down the road? or is it a very limited run and have
    i totally missed the boat? if you're out there reading this,
    Mike, please e-mail me back (with even just a short message
    of "sorry, guy"). thanks...

    Cam Wilson camw@bnr.ca

                                        

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    Date: Fri, 13 Oct 95 08:45:51 CDT
    From: Brandon Vaughn <EDLEADER@uwf.cc.uwf.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Japan PPV Video
    Message-ID: <m0t3kRd-0000DFC@donews.cts.com>

    Can anybody tell me any information about the Japan PPV show (like
    what the set list was, the quality of the program, etc.). Also,
    would anybody be willing to dub me a copy for reimbursement or
    trade (I don't have much). Thanks for any info or help.

    Email:
    Brandon Vaughn ** edleader@uwf.cc.uwf.edu **

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    Date: Fri, 13 Oct 95 08:49:26 CDT
    From: Brandon Vaughn <EDLEADER@uwf.cc.uwf.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Why Petrucci hates boots? / missing part in ACOS
    Message-ID: <m0t3kVd-00006AC@donews.cts.com>

      The more I listen to the studio version of ACOS, the more I realize
    why I've always liked Dream Theater. I'll admit to being a bit taken
    back by the difference between it and the one on SUBCON, but I was
    thinking maybe that is one reason why Petrucci hates boots. To him
    it is not a perfect product until it is done in the studio. To get
    used to an unfinished product probably upsets him. The result is
    dissatisfaction with what they do or could have done, when the studio
    version is *exactly* what they wanted done having time to think about
    it. I'm not against boots, but without a boot of ACOS, I never would
    have been taken back.
      The part I really miss is the neoclassical part near the end of
    SUBCON. Maybe they took it out to put it in another song on the
    upcoming album--maybe Metropolis II? When has DT ever backed away
    from such a cool riff?! They must not have included it for a good
    reason such as this.
      THANK YOU DREAM THEATER FOR GIVING US THIS TREASURE!!

    Brandon Vaughn *** edleader@uwf.cc.uwf.edu ***

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    Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 09:14:34 -0600
    From: E. Waldron <EWALDRON@RGSPS.WPO.UKANS.EDU>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Message-ID: <s07e2e1c.043@POBOX.CC.UKANS.EDU>

    Mike Portnoy did a drum clinic in KC Wednesday night-unfortunately I had
    night class and couldn't go. Were there any other jammers who went? If so
    would you possibly email me about how it was.

    also:
    I asked a couple of months ago, but I thought I'd ask again since a lot of
    people who weren't here over the summer are back now. Does anybody have
    any info about Cynic who are now ?Portal?!?! Could someone clue me in
    please.

    elise
    ewaldron@rgsps.wpo.ukans.edu

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    Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 10:53:23 -0400 (EDT)
    From: "Jonathan Byrne" <RRI02@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU>
    To: "YtseJam" <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: Re: JP clinic
    Message-ID: <9510131454.AA13156@anthor.arastar.com>

    Just for the record, short songs aren't necessarily bad. If you don't
    believe me, check out _As The World_ by Echolyn or _Octopus_ by Gentle
    Giant. With the exception of the last tune on the Echolyn, all the tunes
    are about 5 minutes or less. They're all very well done, and pack a lot of
    progressiveness into a short time!

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    "When they turn the pages of history Jonathan Byrne
      when these days have passed long ago. West Virginia University
     Will they dream of us with sadness, rri02@wvnvm.wvnet.edu
      fir the things that we let grow?"
       -Rush, "A Farewell to Kings", Neil Peart

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    Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 13:39:52 -0500 (CDT)
    From: "Kevin G. Villines" <kvillin@comp.uark.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Ozric Tentacles!
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.951013133746.24264A-100000@comp>

    If you haven't heard them, you're missing out!
    Yet another great band that I have been turned on to by ytsejam!
    I got Jurassic Shift today and the music is phenominal. I am really
    impressed with this band. Could someone suggest what else to get by them?
    Thanks, Kevin.

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    Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 11:41:45 -0700
    From: jpgarrett@earthlink.net (James Garrett)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Cassandra
    Message-ID: <199510131841.LAA07121@atlas.earthlink.net>

    There is a Cassandra in Greek mythology. She was given the power of prophecy
    by the god Apollo, but when she wouldn't do him, he told everybody not to
    believe her even though she was always right. She and Agamemnon were killed
    by Clytemnestra and Aegisthus. Her name is usually used to mean any prophet
    of doom, like those poeple who say the world is going to end next week. Then
    again, maybe it's just some old girlfriend.

    "Maybe I'm just Cassandra fleeting" becomes a pretty cool line. Most of the
    song before, he is talking about some sort of personal doom. But then he
    says that maybe he is just being like Cassandra, telling of a doom that is
    not going to take place. The ironic part is that the original Cassandra was
    always right.

    I hope this helps.
    >
    > I grasped most of it, but can't figure out who Cassandra was/is...
    >
    > (I'll try to quote the lyrics now)
    > "just like Cassandra fleeting
    > Twentieth century icon bleeding"
    >
    >
    > Any insight would be appreciated.
    >
    >
    > thanks
    >
    >
    > Andy
    >
    James Garrett
    ________________________________
    jpgarrett@earthlink.net

    "Because I had found it hard to attend to anything
    less interesting than my own thoughts, I was
    difficult to teach."
                                William Butler Yeats (Autobiographies)

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    Date: 13 Oct 95 15:20:28 EDT
    From: Martin Hayter <100734.464@compuserve.com>
    To: ytsejam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: Re. sellout
    Message-ID: <951013192027_100734.464_EHV85-1@CompuServe.COM>

    In ytsejam 1028 Graham Borland mentioned the lack of Dream Theater shows in the
    UK, claiming that they had already sold out.

     Back in March this year there were plans to do a full UK tour, which was
    reduced to one show at the London Forum (which as you might guess, was amazing
    (incidentally was this the only gig that had John Petrucci's guitar tech.
    working the wah pedal during one of his solos, enabling John to roam around the
    stage?)) (sorry about all the brackets). From what I've read in the fanzine
    Images and Words, they had problems with promoters, which meant that they
    couldn't do any other dates without making a massive loss, and that, rather than
    refusing to do small venues, was the reason for only doing one gig. Any other
    'jammers have more info on this?

    Yours dreaming acoustically,

    Martin Hayter

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    Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 16:23:13 -0400 (EDT)
    From: JIMMY <bd30011@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: WRONG SONG!!!
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.951013162116.11905B-100000@bingsun1>

    ANDY SEYLER --- The lyrics you displayed on #1029 are from "VOICES" not

    "THE MIRROR"

    -- JIMMY --

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    Date: Fri, 13 Oct 95 13:23:58 PST
    From: mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: NDTC -- Ozric Tentacles & Satch
    Message-ID: <9509138136.AA813615962@CCGATE.HAC.COM>

         Well, based on the praise O.T. got from people on this list, I went
         and picked up "Strangitude". Man, this is some cool stuff... I will
         definately have to check out some other titles of theirs, is their
         latest CD "Abouressense" (or something like that) and is it in the
         same vain as "Strangitude"?
         
         I also picked up the new Satriani CD... Yes it is a little different
         that his earlier stuff (slightly more laid back and jazzy, I guess),
         but it is definately Satch and his soulful playing... but I guess I'm
         biased because I have always liked his stuff since his "first"
         self-titled CD. 8^)
         
    /~~~~~~~ Michael Kizer -- Computer Sciences Corporation (Tucson, AZ) ~~~~~~~\
    \ Email: mrkizer@ccgate.hac.com (preferred) -or- mkizer@indirect.com /
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    \ ^---> Check here for the Dream Theater Song Book... /
    / "Read between the lines, criticize the words they're selling \
    \ Think for yourself and feel the walls become sand beneath your feet." /
    / - Anybody Listening?, Queensryche (Empire) \
    \______________________________________________________________________________/

         
         
         
         

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    Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 09:17:45 -0500 (CDT)
    From: UJELOSBY@msuvx2.memphis.edu
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Subconscious and Acoustic Dreams
    Message-ID: <01HWDX7N1X8KQSFJBQ@msuvx2.memphis.edu>

    hi there from a long time browser....

    I am dying for these 2 albums.....if anybody can please please please please
    please please help me find them (preferably on CD) I will worship the ground
    you step on....

    Thanks in advance,
    Joe

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    Date: Fri, 13 Oct 95 09:29:20 CDT
    From: Brandon Vaughn <EDLEADER@uwf.cc.uwf.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: US vs Japan Ibanez JPM100s
    Message-ID: <m0t3lBe-00007ZC@donews.cts.com>

    I was a bit concerned to hear there may be different Petrucci guitars
    floating around so I called Ibanez and this is what they told me.
    *None* of the JPM100s are made in America. This guy told me they are
    all made in Japan. The deal is that they are selling 100 in the
    states and another 100 outside the states. So if what this guy
    told me is correct, even if you got hold of a Japanese version it
    would not matter since it is the same as the US version.

    Any of you who deal with Ibanez, maybe you can verify this.

    Play on,
    Brandon Vaughn ** edleader@uwf.cc.uwf.edu **

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    Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 10:50:24 CST6
    From: "WOLLSCHLAGER JEFFREY A" <WOLLSCHLAGEJ@warp.msoe.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Message-ID: <98FC666DC2@warp.msoe.edu>

    Please take me off the subscription.I like it but it takes up way to
    much in my e-mailbox.Thank you very much please do this as soon as
    possible!
    wollschlagej@msoe.warp.edu

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    Date: Fri, 13 Oct 95 10:59:09 CDT
    From: Brandon Vaughn <EDLEADER@uwf.cc.uwf.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: The ACOS TAB Project (repost)
    Message-ID: <m0t3mYL-00008CC@donews.cts.com>

    Here is the complete TAB for ACOS....

    I wish! Seriously, if a couple of us guitarists would do a little
    work, we could TAB the whole thing out easily. Here is what I suggest.
    Interested persons let me know.

    The ACOS TAB Project
    --------------------

    Brian Cox has already started transcribing the beginning of ACOS as
    posted in YtseJam #1000. I have worked out some of Carpe Diem. I propose
    that interested guitarists would be assigned a particular section of the
    song to transcribe. If there are more than 7 interested, we can assign
    more to each section or hardest sections or split up each section. Imagine
    how quickly we can tab this thing out. Afterwards, we email each of our
    transcriptions to others for checking. After debate and corrections, we
    have a near perfect transcription (maybe even send it to Petrucci?).
    The final TAB will be available for everyone.
    Interested? Email Brandon Vaughn at edleader@uwf.cc.uwf.edu for info.

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    Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 12:55:18 -0400
    From: K2VanHalen@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Same name
    Message-ID: <951013125516_43707271@mail04.mail.aol.com>

          This is in reference to to the person that asked about bands that have
    self-titled albums and songs, whether they were on the same album or another
    album. I can think of three bands, besides what has already been mentioned,
    that include a self-titled song on a self-titled album.

          Damn Yankees: with the great Ted Nugent and Tommy Shaw (Styx) on
    guitars.
          RTZ: former Boston members Brad Delp and Barry Goudreau have a song
    called 'Return To Zero', which is what RTZ stands for. (the
    song rocks, good album!)
          Bad Company: Seems kind of obvious after you think about it!!

    Keith
    (the only person on this list that doesn't seem to have some kind of
    sig.!!!!!)

    PS: Please, if anyone has it, give me some ticket info for the DT show in CT.
    in Dec.

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    Date: Fri, 13 Oct 95 10:00:24 PST
    From: mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: *** Thank You Letter to DT *** --LAST CALL!!!
    Message-ID: <9509138136.AA813604174@CCGATE.HAC.COM>

         * We have officially broken the '100' mark, with 120 letters so far... way
         * to go!
         * Once I compile all of these, I will probably make an ASCII version
         * available to everybody on the Jam, if that's cool with the people who
         * sent in submissions (let me know)...
         
         Note: This Friday (Oct. 13) is the submission deadline so if you
         want to be included in this project hurry and send them in... I
         will try to include "late" letters as well, but I need to get this
         thing done so definately, positively no more submissions after
         Monday (Oct. 16).... maybe. 8^)
         
         * BTW, I keep sending this message because I want to be sure that
         * everyone has a chance to send in a message...
         
         I will now begin accepting personal messages to be included in the
         thank you letter that we will send to DT for putting out ACOS (and for
         thanking us in the liner notes :).. So go ahead and type up your
         message to DT and send them to ME PERSONALLY (not the list), I will
         compile all of them into a booklet format, print them and send them to
         DT's management (more details as I get close to finishing it). Send
         your submissions to:
            mrkizer@ccgate.hac.com
            put 'DTTYL' in the subject so I don't miss your email
         
            and include your name, city,state,country and email address...
         
            I would like to put a DEADLINE FOR SUBMISSIONS, let's say
         Oct 13th... that gives everyone a couple of weeks to do it.
         
         Also, if someone has the DT logo or other artwork in a format that I
         can use (PC/Windows) please let me know... this should preferably be
         black and white line art type stuff or true type fonts...
         
         Any questions, comments, suggestions, etc. send 'em my way...
         
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