YTSEJAM digest 975

From: ytsejam@arastar.com
Date: Fri Sep 22 1995 - 02:49:58 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 975

    Today's Topics:

      1) My First Post
     by Matthew Sirois <ms014e@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>
      2) Catching up ...
     by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
      3) What else could it be?
     by brax@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Bracken Odiorne)
      4) 4 in one day!!! WOW!!
     by kylania@mail.top.net
      5) Bass exercises
     by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu>
      6) Re: seasons break
     by jpgarrett@earthlink.net (James Garrett)
      7) Future live vids/cd's, ACOS, etc
     by freel@iowa.physics.uiowa.edu
      8) Funny thought
     by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
      9) Looking for:
     by "Hitchcock's Other Eye" <ancl@freenet.scri.fsu.edu>
     10) nuff of the petitions
     by Mats Rydstr\vm <d94-mry@nada.kth.se>
     11) Am I right here?
     by kylania@mail.top.net
     12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 974
     by "YtseKen" <KEN@BENONI.nbr.no>
     13) YTSEJAM digest 972
     by disano@industry-dm.com
     14) Re: DT and success
     by John Hackley <jhackley@nctsdg.navy.mil>
     15) The Left-Hand Blues...
     by "Damian G. Allis" <dgallis@mailbox.syr.edu>
     16) Re: seasons break
     by jbako01 <jbako01@barney.poly.edu>
     17) ACOS is great
     by Marco Petrini mat.1234 <petrini@zeus.csr.unibo.it>
     18) Re: Missing Lyrics
     by Victor Jason <victor@dawn.joensuu.fi>
     19) Re: YTSEJAM digest 969
     by BABS@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu
     20) Signing off for a bit
     by Erotomania@aol.com
     21) MAC DT Interactive (in Europe?)
     by "Olaf Peters" <olf@indigo.biba.uni-bremen.de>
     22) Re:Myung
     by Fernando Ma <ma@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
     23) Wouldn't it be cool if....
     by kylania@mail.top.net
     24) Re: YTSEJAM digest 972
     by Curt Harman <acegunn@iastate.edu>
     25) Re: YTSEJAM digest 972
     by Kyle Mallett <krm95g@timon.acu.edu>
     26) ACOS
     by "mmetzger" <mmetzger@bostech.com>

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    Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 01:04:42 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Matthew Sirois <ms014e@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: My First Post
    Message-ID: <199509220504.BAA23798@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>

            Okay, so the subject sounds like a book for pre-schoolers, but like
    it says, this is my first post. I've been on the Ytsejam for a couple weeks
    now, all I have to say everyone here is the coolest. Actually, maybe the
    Jam is too good a thing, all I do now is sit around and read what all the
    other DT fans have to say and listen to, well you know who.
            A few things:
            I have yet to hear anyone say anything about Bombay Vindaloo. What,
    nobody likes it? Personally I consider this song nothing short of orgasmic
    (musically). There really aren't words for how good this song is (maybe
    un-fucking-believable!) And live no less! I don't know of many bands that
    could do that in a studio, forget live. Had I been at that show I could
    have died knowing my life was complete. (Course, it's not my favorite DT
    song, I mean, who could choose one.)
            A while back some guy said something about how Moore didn't have any
    emotion when writing SDV. Who are you kidding!?! Listen to the song!
    There's more emotion in there than most weddings and funerals! That song
    rules! (enough ranting. Sorry if I misunderstood whoever made that comment
    about SDV, I just need to emphasize the endless flow of feelings in that
    song).
            Even farther back someone mentioned wanting to see I Mother Earth
    with Dream Theater instead of Fates Warning. This is Ironic, because I saw
    DT at Berklee with IME in Oct 94. To be honest, they kind of sucked. They
    told the audience to ignore the bouncer dudes in front of the stage and come
    right up and dance with them. They played a song. Nobody moved. The
    vocalists said he didn't think we could get past the bouncers anyway. They
    played a song. Nobody moved. The vocalist called DT fans wusses (or
    something like that) They played a song. Nobody moved. People clapped
    every time they finished playing something becasue they thought they were
    finally finished. Most of the DT fans seemd to be saying "get these clowns
    off stage and get me DT NOW!" Finally IME finished. Sorry IME fans - they
    weren't that bad, I really didn't give them a chance. IT's just that their
    "we're bad asses" attitude really fell short of impressing me when all I
    could think about was DT. Of course DT was awesome. Mike gave a "It all
    began a few rooms over" speach, them being at Berklee where it all began and
    such. So that's my story. I guess my point was I was really dissappointed
    to get stuck with cheesy IME when I could have seen Fates Warning.
            How many of the 900+ people here listen to Fates Warning, by the
    way? How about Anacrusis, Savatage, or King's X? I've seen people asking
    about Watchtower and would definitly like to know more myself. I'm
    interested because of their name appearing in other prog metal band credits.
    I remember looking up their album and discovering they were out of print....
            Are the Majesty Demos worth getting if I really can't get into
    WDADU? How are the vocals? (better than Charles I imagine) And what do
    people think about Instru Mental?
            Does anyone else ever encounter the "DT would rule if they were an
    instrumental band" attitude? I've had a lot of people tell me this...
            I guess that's it...

    Nice to know there are other DT fans out there. Long live the revolution!

                                    Matt <ms0114e@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>

    "Pictures at an exhibition
    Played as he stood in his trance
    Starring at his inhibitions
    All the time believing that it now came down to nothing but this chance."
                                            -Savatage

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    Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 01:40:34 -0400 (EDT)
    From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Catching up ...
    Message-ID: <199509220540.BAA24617@wicked.stigmata.org>

    Wow ....

            Just went through the 19,000 jams I have gotten in the past 24
    hours or so. So let's see.

    Don't remember anyone's names, so deal, it's past 1AM and I have had
    a wicked long day.

    ACoS - I definately like the new version. Some parts kind of get under
    my skin, like that jazzy keyboard thing in there somewhere. I just
    don't think it fits right. I wish the please don't go was still there,
    but after reading some people's responses, I have to agree that it doesn't
    fit 100% anymore. Acoustic Intro and the vocal harmonies are awesome.
    I am now starting the Break John's Wah Pedal club. More info on my
    web page soon :) I just think it sounded fine before and the wah doesn't
    really add all that much and also kinda sounds stupid. I'm still pissed
    that I gotta change my sig too =) I think that's it on this.

    How I got in to DT: Well, I first bought WDADU in probably like 1990,
    when my mom said to me that her friend, John Petrucci's (John's dad) son's
    band had just released an album. I then proceeded to order it from, you
    aren't gonna believe this, Columbia House :) At that point I was a
    metalhead and a half (still kinda am) and didn't think it was all that
    great. A few years later when I&W came out, I was hanging out with some
    friends andone of the guys had the I&W, and I said, "Oh, Dream Theater
    cam out with a new CD, how is it?" He said it ruled. So, I told my sis
    to get it for my birthday and haven't stopped listening to it since :)

    CD Store in Kings Park: He's probably talking about Mr. Cheapo's Records.
    Not REALLY in Kings Park, in Smithtown technically. But close enough.
    Kings Park ain't all that big. I know, I lived there for 18 years.

    A letter to thank DT: Well, I could set up a mailform on my DT page, so
    that people could just type something in and forward it to whomever
    is organizing this, Mike something I think. If you want me to do this,
    send me some mail and I will set it up.

    Hmmmmm. I think that's all the replies to stuff on that end. Oh, one
    more thing. Derek. He seems pretty good. As I mentioned, I don't like
    that jazzy thing in ACoS, so I guess we'll have to wait until the spring
    to find out how good he really is. I just loved Kevin. I guess I also
    had kind of special attachment to him cuz I knew his parents. Knew John
    P's too, but not as well as the Moores.

    Last but definately not least. DT on the Net. I need this done soon,
    so we can get it in the new FAQ (When are you planning on releasing it
    Jason??? ) So, check the list below. If your site is on it, check
    the address. If it is right, just mail me your email address and
    what site it pertains to, so I can add the maintained line. If it is
    wrong, mail me so I can fix it!! If you have a site that isn't on the
    list, mail me with the Name of the site, URL and your email address.
    Please email me, not post to the jam, because some times I get a bit
    behind on these. Thanks.

    Wow, this is a LONG winded post,

    Skadz

    Here's the Current DT on the Net list:

    FTP Sites:

    ftp.netcom.com /pub/dr/drkhoe/dt/
    Dr. Khoe's Dream Theater FTP Site

    Mailing List:

    <Big Section all about Ytsejam>

    WWW Sites:

    1) Skadz's Dream Theater Site
            http://www.dreamt.org
            Maintained by: Ryan Skadberg <skadz@bluesky.net>

    2) CSS's Official Dream Theater Home Page
            http://www.music.net/music/dt/dt.html

    3) Caught In A World Wide Web: Dream Theater Page
            http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/dt.html
            Mike Burstin (mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu)

    4) When Dream and Web Unite
            http://cs.muohio.edu/~mgjones/music/dt/dt.html

    5) Dream Theater Info
            http://www.geom.umn.edu:8000/~bmeloon/music/bandinfo/dt.html

    6) Ed Polzin's DT Page</a>
            http://isr0939.urh.uiuc.edu/dt/dt.htm
            
    7) Images and Web
            http://www.usmcs.maine.edu/~laferrie/music/dt/dt.html

    8) http://b62772.student.cwru.edu/~bill/music/dt/dt.html
            Bill's Dream Theater Page
            Maintained by: Bill Nottingham (bill@b62772.student.cwru.edu)

    9) Scott Bell's NEW Dream Theater Page
            http://silver.ucs.indiana.edu:80/~scebell/spot/dream.html

    10) The Dream Theater Song Book
            http://www.indirect.com/www/mkizer/index.htm

    11) Dream Thea-net
            http://junix.ju.edu/UsrWebPages/tallen/dt.html
            Maintained by: Trey Allen <tallen@junix.ju.edu>

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    Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 23:50:34 -0600 (MDT) From: brax@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Bracken Odiorne) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: What else could it be? Message-ID: <9509220550.AA133354@lamar.ColoState.EDU>

    Hey all, Did anyone else think that it was pretty cool that DT put out ACoS as close to the Autumnal Equinox as they could (Album releases in the US always being on Tuesday, and the first day of Fall coming this Sunday. That's it. There's nothing else I can say about this release that hasn't already been said. Slainte, Bracken "...Without music, life would be an error." Nietzsche -Twilight of the Idols-

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    Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1970 02:45:43 -0600 From: kylania@mail.top.net To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: 4 in one day!!! WOW!! Message-ID: <197001060845.CAA00753@dns.top.net>

    FOUR JAMS IN ONE DAY????

    Wow!!! :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- For the last time, Gimme ten cents or a dime, And I'll kick the revolution off today.

    Kevin Moore - Hollow ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I stood outside in the rain for us... I tried to work out all of the pain for us... I sat alone and took the blame for us... My mind has torn and gone insane for us...

    Mike Portnoy - ACoS (Subconcious) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 02:48:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu> To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Bass exercises Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.950922023838.218292C-100000@moose.uvm.edu>

    Someone (and I don't remember who) asked about good exercises to work on finger strength. Major scales work well, 'cause you get every finger working. Here's another one -

    Start on the E, 1st fret. Then play A, 2nd fret, then D 3rd fret, then G 4th fret. Use (on left hand) index, then middle, then ring, then pinky. Then start on G 6th fret and come back down, pinky first, then ring... Keep going up the neck till about the 12th fret. Then come back down.

    With both warmups, take it SLOW, and make sure that every note is clean. Gradually work up speed. It's best to do this with a metronome. No, I don't have one, either. This'll do the trick, and it only takes about 15 min. a day.

    To strengthen your right hand, just keep playing. Whatever. Remember, the goal is to have every note ring cleanly. Pretty soon, you'll be playing Myung lines. OK, so it'll take a few years, but don't set that as your goal. Try to play REM lines, then Van Halen lines. If you sit down tomorrow and try to play DT or Rush stuff, you'll get discouraged and give up. The best covers to learn as a beginner - on almost every instrument - is the Beatles. You get strong, simple lines, and a subliminal lesson in theory as well. Happy practicing.

    BTW, I figured I'd post this because a lot of you could probably use the advice. The same warmups over & over get boring, and then practicing becomes a chore. If you're not having fun, quit. Whatever it is - music, work, school - it's not worth it if you don't enjoy it.

    Sorry for the length - I tend to ramble at 2:45am. I'll kill my .sig, 'cause that's the type of guy I am.

    -Chris

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    Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 00:10:38 -0700 From: jpgarrett@earthlink.net (James Garrett) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: seasons break Message-ID: <199509220710.AAA09625@atlas.earthlink.net>

    I'm sure that all those breaks would make too many tracks for an EP. Did anybody notice that ACOS is about the longest EP ever? It could have easily been sold as a full-length CDThanks guys for the break. Yet more evidence that DT really care about their fans.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------- does anyone else wish they had put a track break at every segue between "seasons" so it would have put the song in 7 tracks rather than one...kinda like "a mind beside itself". i know it is nt a big deal and not necesarily a reason for breaking up the song...but it would be out of convience to get to a certain section...but hey at least we have a studio version now..=) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------- James Garrett ________________________________ jpgarrett@earthlink.net

    "Because I had found it hard to attend to anything less interesting than my own thoughts, I was difficult to teach." William Butler Yeats (Autobiographies)

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    Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 02:19:25 C From: freel@iowa.physics.uiowa.edu To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Future live vids/cd's, ACOS, etc Message-ID: <00996C1A.4CCEC860.3@iowa.physics.uiowa.edu>

    I was thinking, what with the release of ACOS and all, that it would be cool for the band to start pushing its own live recordings via the fanclub and Ytsejam; they could choose a favorite performance and ensure high quality. Previously, there seemed to be concerns with some band members about boots; this would circumvent these by making it an "official release" kinda thing. I'd even like to see the band pull a profit on each disc/vid... if it was done on a large enough scale (>1,000), I can't believe that the end cost would be too high, and maybe the people making the copies could be paid also.

    It almost seems like Acoustic Dreams is a test of sorts for this, but we could easily use a live disc from the Awake tour, plus the last few sets which included ACOS. These could be released at a rate of something like every 6 months to help the fans make it through the time between albums.

    Any thoughts or further suggestions on this?

    For what it's worth, Computer Shopper guesstimates that CD recorders will be < $1,000 by early 96, thus making it quite plausible for anyone to dub CD's within a few years (schools may have them available for students, even). I think the current price on the blanks are about $15...

    ACOS: Those of you who have surround sound & other neato features of a high end stereo system, please tell us about any special things you hear on ACOS. I know someone complained about certain sounds bouncing back and forth, but maybe it's a "6:00 drum roll thing", and it really circles around you (which might sound real awesome).

    Emotion in James-of-the-many-hands' (JOTMH) voice :^) I've heard a lot of complaints about how there's less emotion in JL's voice as compared with Subcon/DOE/Whatever, but I think that's not the case; the emotion is just different. Whereas previously it sounded angry/aggressive/freakin-out, now it seems more plaintive and lonely, esp on "Seize the day, I heard him say...". My opinion of the song goes up every time I listen to it. A true masterpiece.

    I think the subtle keys throughout really add a lot; it seems more care was taken to create mood and effect than on anything they've done previously.

    Ok, what's with DT and Fates' obsession with older men?? Is the guy on ACOS like drinking buddies with the guy on the Parallels and Perf Sym covers??! :^) "Beavis' Dad!"

    enuff! Chrisf

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    Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 03:24:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Funny thought Message-ID: <199509220724.DAA24929@wicked.stigmata.org>

    I think it's kinda funny how the DoE version of ACoS has become the Subconscious version :)

    Just thought it was funny. Mike Bahr must be some sort of god or something ;)

    Skadz

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    Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 18:16:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hitchcock's Other Eye" <ancl@freenet.scri.fsu.edu> To: Steve Hiroshi Kochi <magog@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> Subject: Looking for: Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9509201830.A10321-0100000@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu>

    Steve Kochi, if you're out there...

    Your tapes are ready...have been ready for quite a while now. Please get in touch with me so I can get these to you.

    Andrew ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Elizabeth Taylor Here & in Al Capone slept here... Chicago ..and they LOVED it! "The Land that A/C Forgot" -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 10:43:38 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mats Rydstr\vm <d94-mry@nada.kth.se> To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: nuff of the petitions Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91N2.950922103219.6374B-100000@alv.nada.kth.se>

    Hi!

    I will post my comments on ACOS later, but what I see now is the large number of people who aren't content with getting the EP. Even BEFORE it was released someone asked for more. Please stoppit, and let this EP be IT until next summer. Too many releases tend to damage the overall quality, yeah I know WE would be happy if they released homevids of Mike having a burger or John P playing golf, but IMO bands should limit themselves to release material only which pushes forth their musical vision.

    Therefore I'm not fond of these petitions: * lets tell them to release some more of the EP 'for us' * why don't they release it on video * i want them to do more uncovered shows where they play my songs

    Sorry if it sounds like I'm slagging the people suggesting these things, I'm just against these types of ideas.

    I DO agree that we could write to the band and tell how much we appreciate what they do, that's another thing.

    ---

    If they did even more stuff like this, that would really be selling out to their usual crowd, just doing what 'we' want, ie doing long epic things with lots of complexity (don't get me wrong, I like it!!!). I'm not saying they should go for a grunge-album, but whatever they want to challenge me with I will try to digest ;-)

    later...

    and yes, ACOS entered the SWEDISH CHARTS at #12 (or #13)!!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Mats Rydstrom - d94-mry@nada.kth.se /~~~~~~~~~~\~~BassPlayer/BREAKPOINT~~/ - http://www.nada.kth.se/~d94-mry \ no wrong, no right / ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ or guilt admission / ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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    Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1970 05:05:28 -0600 From: kylania@mail.top.net To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Am I right here? Message-ID: <197001061105.FAA01160@dns.top.net>

    Chris:

    Does YKYAADTFW = You Know You're Around Another Dream Theater Fan When...

    Just wondering :)

    dave ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- For the last time, Gimme ten cents or a dime, And I'll kick the revolution off today.

    Kevin Moore - Hollow ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I stood outside in the rain for us... I tried to work out all of the pain for us... I sat alone and took the blame for us... My mind has torn and gone insane for us...

    Mike Portnoy - ACoS (Subconcious) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 13:20:09 MET From: "YtseKen" <KEN@BENONI.nbr.no> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 974 Message-ID: <MAILQUEUE-101.950922132009.320@benoni.nbr.no>

    Ahem!

    >151 Stephane Auzilleau 152 Carl Jason 153 Ken Hugo Hoili >154 Ken Hugo Hoili 155 Shigeru Yamashita 156 Brian Ross

    Well, Mike, you included my last name this time, but you still haven't got it right!

    >> Since I am definetly going to order both CDs, I was wondering if it >> would be OK for you if I payed both CDs with ONE International Money >> Order (when the time for ordering AD comes, of course). Since my >> bank's fee for an IMO is a bit on the expensive side (at least for >> me), it would save me some money if I could send the payments for both >> CDs on one Money Order. It's not that I'm Uncle Scrooge or > > I understand totally! :) Many others are in the same situation. I >will certainly accept a single payment, if that is more convenient for >you. I'll save the payment for the next CD when I use it.

    See? I ordered ONE copy of Acoustic Dreams and ONE copy of WDAJU. Please get it right, Mike!

    YtseKen

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    Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 06:53:14 +0500 From: disano@industry-dm.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: YTSEJAM digest 972 Message-ID: <m0sw5ky-0000nVC@vmbb.cts.com>

    I first got into DT way back in 1989. I picked up WDaDU on a whim while Christmas shopping with my mother. Needless to say I was blown away by it. I listened to it on and off for the next three years often wondering "What happened to that band"? Well fast forward to the summer of 1992 where I was at a local metal bar. It was one of those nights where there was no one else at the bar other than some bands and their girlfriends when I heard the most incredible music over the PA. About two or three minutes into Metropiolis it occured to me who it was. Confirmed it with the DJ and waited till the next morning when I could get my new copy of I&W. Now it was time to see them in concert. They appeared at Harpo's in October. Saw 'em for 5 bucks and was blown away to say the least. It was kind of neat to see all the other fans crowding the stage as all the hair farmers left. There were about 75 other fans there. Well the great part about it is that the next day was when I hear PMU on ZROCK so the next time DT was in town Harpo's was sold out for this "new band".

    Mr. Pink

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    Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 10:58:36 +0000 (GMT) From: John Hackley <jhackley@nctsdg.navy.mil> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: DT and success Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.950922101826.8738A-100000@diego-emh>

    Doesn't the true measure of DT's success exist in the quality of what they produce? Sure, it's great to wonder what it would be like if everyone would give things the respect they deserve, but I feel DT's reward should come from creating something that actually pushes the envelope on what it means to be human. Sounds a bit over the top, but I don't think it's an exaggeration. There are a million oh-I-think-I'll-shave-my-head-and-be-like-everyone-else college bands out there that rack up more sales than DT ever will, but they will never have what DT has. I'm into running a lot, and I've logged in countless miles that were effortless because I was floating on the art of Dream Theater. Anyone who can create something with the power to do that is well on there way to self-actualization; that's success. Anyway, enough on that for now.

    Later, John

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    Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 08:49:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Damian G. Allis" <dgallis@mailbox.syr.edu> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: The Left-Hand Blues... Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950922084327.29142B-100000@forbin.syr.edu>

    If you really want to get your weak hand chops up, do it the easy way. Stop using you're strong hand! Open the door with your weaker hand. Move the mouse. Open books. Everything you can SAFELY do with the other hand, do. It's a very common practice among many of the best drummers (Gene Krupa, Buddy Rich, Terry Bozzio, etc.). If you're really gutsy, try writing with your other hand. Not just stupid little messages. Seriously try working on making your handwriting just as good on both hands. It'll take a half-hour or so of practice a day. The results to your playing, however, will make you glad you spend the extra effort (not to mention, you can seriously flip people out by switching hands with your pen in the middle of class).

    I do it, to! Damian Allis

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    Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 09:22:11 -0400 (EDT) From: jbako01 <jbako01@barney.poly.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: seasons break Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950922092127.11978A-100000@barney>

    On Thu, 21 Sep 1995, Dirt Cheap Technology wrote:

    > does anyone else wish they had put a track break at every segue between > "seasons" so it would have put the song in 7 tracks rather than

    Or at least have index points put in for those of use with CD players capable of accessing them. (like me :)

    James Bako "The nice part about being a pessimist is jbako01@barney.poly.edu that you are constantly being either Polytechnic University proven right or pleasantly surprised." Brooklyn, New York - George Will

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    Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 15:36:49 +0200 (MET DST) From: Marco Petrini mat.1234 <petrini@zeus.csr.unibo.it> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: ACOS is great Message-ID: <9509221336.AA25838@zeus.csr.unibo.it>

    Hi, i'm a new dt fans on this list ......

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    Date: Fri, 22 Sep 95 16:30:32 EET DST From: Victor Jason <victor@dawn.joensuu.fi> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Missing Lyrics Message-ID: <199509221330.QAA03921@dawn.joensuu.fi>

    The Missing part is from the poem that was recited in the "Carpe Diem" part. The poem is by Robert Herrick, I forgot the name tho... anyhow it was in "Dead Poet's Society", a cool flick w. Robin Williams!! COOL! The Missing lyrics are: "gather ye rose-buds while ye may..."

    Bear

    -- Gather ye rose-buds while ye may, Old time is still a-flying: And this same flower that smiles to-day, To-morrow will be dying.

    -Robert Herrick

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    Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 09:50:04 -0500 (EST) From: BABS@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 969 Message-ID: <01HVKM465NDQ000V65@sgenva.CC.GENESEO.EDU>

    Hello everyone, it's Babs. This is for David:

    I see that everyone is having a great time disecting ACoS. I am just stating how I personally feel about. Remember there is no right and there is no wrong! Now as for DT not developing/stating a them:

    (look out everybody). It is a SONG David, not a F@*KING ESSAY.

    Ok, everybody can return to normalcy now! -BABS

    PS I'm sure that I will be talking to you over the weekend about this David. Make sure that you get a good night's sleep before talking to me (giggle)! I love a challenge :)

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    Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 09:47:26 -0400 From: Erotomania@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Signing off for a bit Message-ID: <950922094725_26330690@emout06.mail.aol.com>

    hello people - just a short note to let you all know that if you want to get in touch with me directly, you will have to do it via this address, as I am unsubscribing from the 'jam, 'till all this cools down. It's too much email for me. =)

    -hairball (erotomania@aol.com)

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    Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 16:13:02 +0100 From: "Olaf Peters" <olf@indigo.biba.uni-bremen.de> To: "Pat Daugherty (pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com)" <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: MAC DT Interactive (in Europe?) Message-ID: <53691303@indigo.biba.uni-bremen.de>

    Hi!

    > Anybody have any ideas?

    Try NetScape's context menu: press the button a little longer above the link and it will appear, use the Save-item to save it to disk.

    Anyone knows if there's a european-site where I can get the Mac-Version of DT-Interactive? The lines across the ocean become slower & slower :-(

    Bye, Olf

    -- Private: op@hb2.maus.de (no mails >15 KB, please!) University: olf@informatik.uni-bremen.de, olf@IRC

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    Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 07:21:02 -0700 (MST) From: Fernando Ma <ma@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu> To: Ytsejam List <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re:Myung Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950922071857.5881A-100000@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>

    Myung is god. I love the part at about 12:18 where he is doubling JP. Also love that tapping solo part in Metropolis and the little free time run at the end of Erotomania. Fern

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    Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1970 10:33:28 -0600 From: kylania@mail.top.net To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Wouldn't it be cool if.... Message-ID: <197001061633.KAA02094@dns.top.net>

    Radio stations across the globe started playing ACoS and DT recorded in the studio the Subcon version of ACoS as the B-Side! Wouldn't that be cool!! :)

    just ranting... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- For the last time, Gimme ten cents or a dime, And I'll kick the revolution off today.

    Kevin Moore - Hollow ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I stood outside in the rain for us... I tried to work out all of the pain for us... I sat alone and took the blame for us... My mind has torn and gone insane for us...

    Mike Portnoy - ACoS (Subconcious) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 09:52:45 CDT From: Curt Harman <acegunn@iastate.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 972 Message-ID: <9509221452.AA11411@isum1.iastate.edu>

    -------- someone asked if anyone had started out by disliking DT..

    I got I&W from BMG because I had heard PMU on the radio, but after I listened to the song a few times i got sick of it, so i decided to listen to the rest album, i thought it was really pathetic and i was mad at myself for buying it...

    next day, i listened to it again, and again, and again, and again, i thought it was the greatest album ever! i called my best friend to tell him about this awesome band, and we've been DT fans ever since

    btw, the really fast upward guitar scale in PMU is what got me interested in the first place

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    Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 10:18:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Kyle Mallett <krm95g@timon.acu.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 972 Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.950922101340.19753B-100000@timon.acu.edu>

    I don't know how many people out there know the basic story behind Space Dye Vest, but I'll share what I know about it. I forget exactly where I got this from, but it was an explanation by Kevin. He said he was looking through this catalog and saw this beautiful girl wearing something called a space dye vest. He immediately began obsessing over her, with no previous knowledge of who she was. He took the story from there. "beauty projection in the reflection always the worst way to start." He takes the story from there and carries on a basic scenario based on a relationship that starts that way. Again, this is my recollection of an article I read. Don't stone me if I missed something. If anyone has a more specific explplanation, I'd be interested.

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    Date: 22 Sep 1995 10:54:57 -0500 From: "mmetzger" <mmetzger@bostech.com> To: "YTSEJAM" <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: ACOS Message-ID: <n1400354955.99532@macsmtp>

    Just want to add my thanks to the band for putting out this disk. Not to press my luck, but wouldn't it be great if they adopted a policy sort of like what Fish does of putting out "official bootlegs" every nine months or so. Too bad nothing too terribly great seems to be coming from the Fish camp.

    On another subject, many people, including meeself, seem to have trouble getting a pulse out of the DT fan club. With tired eyes, I scanned the liner notes of ACOS last night and couldn't find any mention of the fan club. Did I overlook it (geez, I hope not) ?? Are they punting the fan club ?? It seems odd that it was missing.

    Mark Metzger mmetzger@bostech.com

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