YTSEJAM Digest 974
Today's Topics:
1) HELP with getting ACOS!!
by euan@waikato.ac.nz (Euan Kilgour)
2) Re: bunch of stuff/so-called "progressive" music/NDTC rambling
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
3) Re: ACOS question & other stuff
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 959
by EMRST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu
5) Re: stuff
by Damon M. Fibraio <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
6) Re: Thank You Dream Theater!
by Damon M. Fibraio <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
7) Re: ACoS
by Damon M. Fibraio <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
8) Re: Babs-o-rama
by Damon M. Fibraio <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
9) Re: Trevor Rabin (NDTC)
by Damon M. Fibraio <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
10) Re: ACOS and a transcription petition
by Damon M. Fibraio <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
11) ONE BIG UPDATE
by Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
12) Re: Cover concepts on I&Ws & Awake
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
13) Re: Derek's keyboard sounds
by Damon M. Fibraio <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
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Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 14:52:22 +1200
From: euan@waikato.ac.nz (Euan Kilgour)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: HELP with getting ACOS!!
Message-ID: <v01510100ac87d3ce07d1@[130.217.176.36]>
It seems that here in New Zealand ACOS will not be printed. Therefore the
local stores must import a copy. I don't want to do this because they
charge extra.
This is my big plea to all of you jammers who have access to a copy. CAN
YOU BUY ME ONE!?
I'll pay for the CD and the shipping costs - all you have to do is go down
to the store and pick me up a copy.
Please*grovel*grovel*grovel*bootlick*
I must have one.
Euan Kilgour YJLHB.
ACOSless.
Mail to: euan@waikato.ac.nz
"The ninties bring new questions, new solutions to be found..." DT -
Learning to live _I&W_
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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 95 19:41:53 PDT
From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: bunch of stuff/so-called "progressive" music/NDTC rambling
Message-ID: <9509220241.AA27071@tengs1.teng>
>ACOS rules!!!
Yeah!!! I agree with Jaime (Burks, not our resident Dragon !>)>
Those layered vocals on the "Ignorance surrounding me..." part
are one of my favorite parts of the song! I think I'll play it
again (for the third time in four hrs. Is 57 mins. too short?).
> How I got into DT:
<<stuff annihilated>>
> There I was led to
> alt.r-n-r.metal.progressive. (Up to this point I had thought progressive
> metal would be like Hurl Jam or Nirvana, around here progressive is considered
> alternative).
That's the most pathetic thing I've ever heard (well, almost).
KWOD 106 in Sacramento claims to play "progressive" music. It's
mostly alternative/dance. I do admit that sometimes it's listenable.
What trips me out is when they play something from Peter Gabriel/
Howard Jones/The Fixx (you get the idea) and say "Du..uhhh [Moose
from the "Archie" comics voice], here's an alternative duhhh..uh
'classic'." You dumbasses, that stuff used to be Top 40! I know
they know this, but those generation (sub-Xers, let's call them)
listeners are ignoramouses. How can I be familiar with music
from the 70s, while they remain blissfully ignorant of 80s
music? It makes me want to declare war on anyone 18 and under.
Did anyone hear that they have _another_ alternative station
in Sacramento now??? I think it's 100.5 FM. That makes 4
alternative format stations withing a 100 mi. radius in Northern
Califonia now, 2 of which were AOR format just last year (98.5
KOME and 95.1 KDJK)! I can't wait to move out of here. At least
KWOD is sometimes listenable because they don't play as much grunge
as the others. I hope the Portland area is better... (could be
my destination in 2 years, at least I'll be over halfway to
Alaska--- my *final* destination).
>
> Deep Purples Perfect Strangers is awesome. I recommend people checking it out
> if they haven't yet.
I'd like to see them do "Knocking at Your Back Door."
"Feel it comin'!!!" (isn't this whole song about sex?)
> Oh well, I suppose I need to get back to work:(
My boss was looking over my shoulder this afternoon when
I first logged on and said something like "Don't these
people have anything better to do?" First, he doesn't
know how many of us there are. Second, spending 10 mins.
typing up a message isn't any different then spending the
same time bullshitting in the hallway (most often about
non-work related stuff). Third, a lot of people do this
at night from home, or from school. I do dread the thought
of switching jobs to one w/out 'net access. To think that
I'd actually have to buy a computer and *pay* to waste my
time !>)>
> **** Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com ****
**ramble mode <OFF>**
Zach
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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 95 19:50:04 PDT
From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: ACOS question & other stuff
Message-ID: <9509220250.AA27142@tengs1.teng>
>
> Also, someone posted a literal translation of the Italian sample in
> TTT and it was very different from what's in the FAQ, etc. It read,"I
> was blind all the time while I was learning to see." Now, I am just
> curious which version is "more" correct...
Translations are often only the best approximations. I looked
up "joie de vivre" (from the Rush song "Force 10") and the
best translation I could come up with was "love of/for life."
Which doesn't sound quite right in English translated _literally_.
I think the phrase has more impact in French.
> And finally, I have received several positive replys about the "thank
> you" letter to DT for ACOS... So I will begin gathering personal
> messages shortly... look for another post describing it...
>
> | Michael Kizer -- Computer Sciences Corporation (Tucson, AZ) |
Here's another positive. They just might get more than they're
bargaining for since there are more of us now than when we sent
the original petition.
Zach
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 15:21:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: EMRST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 959
Message-ID: <01HVI598VDRMA9MIQL@vms.cis.pitt.edu>
>1) CDEUROPE (telnet to CDEUROPE.COM) has a version of DT's _Awake_
>listed as "AWAKE + BONUS LIVE CD SIN". The people at CDEUROPE
>couldn't tell me what is on the CD. I can't find what this bonus CD
>contains. Is it a boot or really some authorized, but little known,
>bonus CD?
This bonus CD is a 3" CD single containing the studio track 'EVE'. You need an
adaptor ring to put the CD in so a standard 5" CD player will play it. I would
suggest not buying this, and instead buying the Silent Man single which includes
EVE and a demo version of TTT.
>2) I read that Kevin Moore left due to "musical differences" and that
>he was going to pursue a Fusion path. Yet the demos I got of Kevin
>are anything but Fusion (at least as I understand it). Anyone care to
>add anything more? (No pun intended.) What _is_ he currently doing?
>(Was there a big fallout between band members?!)
Airdance can answer what Kev is currently up to, but there was definitely not a
big fallout between Kev and the other members. The split was amicable, as put
by the members themselves. However, in the months following the split, Mike
Portnoy seemed a little bitter about his departure, at least when I talked to
him. He seemed to get over it, though.
>3) Does anyone know the origin of the title "Puppies On Acid", which
>is the instrumental intro to "Take The Time"? Is it now called something
>else? What boots or official releases does it appear on?
Puppies on Acid was also sometimes referred to as 'Kittens on Crack', or 'Pup',
eventually turned into 'The Mirror' which is track 7 on Awake. I'm not sure
where the title came from, but the answer might be in the DT FAQ, which is
available at the drkhoe ftp site. I can't recall the address off hand, but I'm
sure someone will be kind enough to post it. Bootlegs it appears on include
Lost in the Sky, and Dream Out Loud. It is probably on others that I don't
have. There is a track by track bootleg listing also at this FTP site. Check
it out.
>4) The "Live In Long Island: Home At Last" boot lists the following
>tracks on the second CD: 4. A Change Of Seasons, 5. Another Won,
>6.Your Majesty, 7. Two Far, 8. March Of The Tyrant.
>This CD was recorded Oct. 4, 1992. First question, are tracks 6-8
>live with James or just the Majesty demos thrown on for filler? Second
>question, according to the promo version of ACOS, the text says DT only
>played "ACOS" live twice: once in NY and once in Germany. Well, the
>above boot is dated OCt. 4, 1992, and includes "ACOS" live (supposedly).
>The _Dance Of Eternity_ CDs, with a live record date of Mar. 4, 1993,
>_does_ contain "ACOS" live. Also, according to a Nov. 1990 boot listing,
>DT played an instrumental version of "ACOS" live. (See item 5 below.)
The Majesty tracks are NOT live, just thrown on to fill the CD. As I
understand, ACOS was only played twice w/ James. DOE definitely contains the
one from NY, so I assume that the LILI disc either is a duplicate from NY, or is
actually the other recording (Germany). I honestly don't know. I assume the
date of the recording is wrong. An instrumental version of ACOS definitely
appears on the Sundance instrumental bootleg, that many Jammers have. I'd be
willing to trade you a copy for something.
I also recall hearing that Steve Stone was hired as DT's new vocalist, and came
out to sing ACOS as an encore to an instrumental show, but performed terribly,
and was fired immediately following.
>5) Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the Sundance, Bayshore (NY)
>Nov. 17, 1990 all instrumental show? It includes a version of "ACOS"
>and an interesting medley of cover tunes.
>6) Several boots contain "Moon Bubbles" and "Barfbag" as tracks. Are
>there instrumentals? Are these official band titles or fixed by the
>bootleggers?
These titles were named by the band, but they can't figure out how people found
out about them. Another Hand is the only obvious one, since they named the
track on Live at the Marquee. There's an interesting story behind Bombay
Vindaloo, and Barfbag - check out the FAQ.
KAI - the long time missing lurker
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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 95 23:53:50 EDT
From: Damon M. Fibraio <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: stuff
Message-ID: <9509220353.AA02690@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To the guy who went to Birch Hill to see DT, where are you from? I
could've gone to see them there, and I had another plan. Kick, kick. Was this
the concert in June? June 9? I should've gone. Boston and DT in one week
would've been an overdoese.
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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 95 23:58:15 EDT
From: Damon M. Fibraio <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Thank You Dream Theater!
Message-ID: <9509220358.AA05193@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
Perhaps it is because I am new, but what was the story behind ACOS? Was it
that they did for the Ytsejammers? What is the song about, anyway? I am a
poor interpretter of lyrics. Fill in the holes, please.
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Date: Fri, 22 Sep 95 0:00:54 EDT
From: Damon M. Fibraio <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: ACoS
Message-ID: <9509220400.AA32424@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
Since all the Ytsejammers, with some exceptions, have a problem with
changes to ACOs between the Subcon and ACOS releases, we should try to do
some reporting as to what was actually changed and why. We need to interview
the boyz for this. Anyone agree?
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Date: Fri, 22 Sep 95 0:10:23 EDT
From: Damon M. Fibraio <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Babs-o-rama
Message-ID: <9509220410.AA01641@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
As far as people writing 20 minute songs, it is a very difficult thing to
do. It takes experiementation to do something like that. It's different than
writing a five minute song, because 20 minutes of the same riff becomes very
dull. So, 20 minutes and you have to keep changing it. So, it's an art form
that needs to be developed, and if DT does dcdecide to continue with long
songs, they will get better at it. Truthfully, even though I had to part ways
with my promo copy of ACOS, I thought that the song kicked serious ass.
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Date: Fri, 22 Sep 95 0:18:01 EDT
From: Damon M. Fibraio <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Trevor Rabin (NDTC)
Message-ID: <9509220418.AA29541@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
Who was trashing Trevor? Not me. I love revor. I said that If he was gone,
I'd miss him. I am the guy trashing Tony K. He won't be missed in my mind.
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Date: Fri, 22 Sep 95 0:25:38 EDT
From: Damon M. Fibraio <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: ACOS and a transcription petition
Message-ID: <9509220425.AA04738@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
What was the problem with Rush's Signals? I think it sounds great, except
for the guitar/keyboard war throughout the album. I think Signals sounds
pretty good though. What am I missing?
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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 22:28:31 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: durnik@indirect.com
Subject: ONE BIG UPDATE
Message-ID: <199509220528.WAA14844@bud.indirect.com>
DREAM THEATER: "ACOUSTIC DREAMS"
Information and Update
Current to 9/21/1995
NOTE: INTERNET EMAIL ADDRESS CHANGE: I am now durnik@indirect.com
Hi all! This is the latest information on Acoustic Dreams, the new
LIMITED EDITION Dream Theater CD I will be producing. It will be a numbered,
hand-initialed limited print just like Subconscious was.
============================================================================
DISCLAIMER: Acoustic Dreams falls into a grey area of law as an uncopyrighted
recording produced in such a manner that at least one facet of the production
occurs in a country (namely Italy) in which it is legal to do so. In the USA,
it is permissible to sell used import CDs only if they are labeled as such.
This is such a CD. Be aware that the various powers-that-be are collecting
nothing for this.
============================================================================
Of course, that's all cover-my-butt lawyerspeak. I hope you all will
want to be a part of this. I make roughly minimum wage doing it, so you know
I'm not out to scam you. In all humility, I appeal to anyone who might not
think too kindly of my endeavor, and ask that they might give me the benefit
of the doubt on this one. Friends? :)
1. What is Acoustic Dreams?
2. What is the release schedule?
3. How can I get my own copy of Acoustic Dreams?
4. Orders received.
============================================================================
1. What is Acoustic Dreams?
Hi all! Allow me to introduce myself, if you aren't familiar with me
yet. I'm Mike Bahr, humble maker of special-edition CDs. I noticed a lot of
the mass-manufactured bootleg offerings were spiralling quite high in price
and yet offered little for the die-hard fan, and I concocted a scheme by
which I could make around minimum wage by producing CDs on my own, CDs that
would fill the demand for REAL rarities and special songs, unreleased items,
live shows, and the like.
Basically, since no CD plant will print them for me, I have to rent
studio and equipment time and do it myself. So far, it's working. :)
Fortunately, and for this I am very relieved, my Subconscious CD
has been incredibly well-received by the net community, especially the
Ytsejam mailing list. I just do what I can do and leave the rest up to God,
and I guess the Almighty isn't disappointing you folks. People from all walks
of life, all countries of the world, both sexes, all races, and all religions
have joined in on the Subconscious and Cygnus projects, and I am very happy
to have you all along for the ride. I'll keep making CDs as long as you folks
are willing to keep buying them. Thanks so _very_ much... :)
Unfortuantely, Cygnus has been a mixed pot. The Ytsejam list, for the
most part, loves it. Alt.music.rush is another story. The boot collectors who
have been on the group for a while are usually pleased, but a lot of people
who were expecting album-release quality (impossible for a boot) have been
unhappy with it. For this reason, I'm considering never offering any CD to
anyone except the members of Ytsejam. I'm open for comments/criticism, or
suggestions about this.
And now, I have Acoustic Dreams on tap.
Well, this is the current CD I'm doing, also known as Dream Theater
Unplugged. We were given a VERY high-quality soundboard tape of DT's recent
Unplugged performance in Europe, and it can only be fully expressed in the
form of a CD. Trust me. :) I am fervently hoping that the finished product
is well-liked. I've created the master DAT and submitted it and I got the
glass master made.
Here's the final tracklisting from Acoustic Dreams. I know many
were hoping I'd find more stuff, but I've pretty much scraped the
barrel dry at this point. The only other things of similar sound
quality I could find were in soundboard shows that ought to be
released to CD in their entirety.
Acoustic Dreams
1. Another Day
2. Lifting Shadows off a Dream
3. Wait For Sleep
4. The Silent Man
5. Lie (boogie version)
6. Tears (Rush cover)
7. O Holy Night
Electric Extras
8. Perfect Strangers (with Bruce Dickinson on vocals)
9. 6:00 (performed in session with a much better mix)
10. Caught In A Web (another better performance)
Bonus Tracks (acoustic)
11. Voices (just a small part of it was all there was) acoustic
12. Bad (U2 cover) acoustic
I hope that once you've heard it, you will, like me, have your
breath taken away by the beauty of the acoustic tracks and the clarity and
sharpness of the electric mixes. As good as Cygnus sounded, this is easily
and by far the best sounding CD I will have ever made.
2. What is the release schedule?
Here is the current schedule of releases as I see it (all dates estimated):
NOW - Rush: Cygnus released/shipping
NOW - Dream Theater: "Acoustic Dreams" ordering begins
09/30/1995 - Dream Theater: "Acoustic Dreams" released/shipping
11/15/1995 - Dream Theater: "When Dream and Today Unite" ordering begins
12/15/1995 - Dream Theater: "The Lost Artifacts/TBA" ordering begins
12/25/1995 - Dream Theater: "When Dream and Today Unite" released/shipping
01/30/1996 - Dream Theater: "The Lost Artifacts/TBA" released/shipping
02/--/1996 - Public Affection: "Death of a Dictionary", details TBA
03/--/1996 - Rush: To be announced
04/--/1996 - Live or Type O-Negative: To be announced
05/--/1996 - Dream Theater: To be announced
Here are a few descriptions to keep your curiosity satiated :)
Dream Theater "Subconscious"
Released 04/03/1995 - Limited Edition - 500 copies - sold out
Contained Dream Theater rarities including A Change of Seasons.
All copies were hand initialed/numbered in gold for authenticity.
Rush "Cygnus"
Released 08/14/1995 - Limited Edition - 1000 copies - still available
Contains a rare soundboard show from the Hemispheres tour.
Dream Theater "Acoustic Dreams"
Currently in pre-ordering.
To be released 09/30/1995 - Limited Edition of 500 copies
Each copy will be hand signed/numbered in gold for authenticity.
Contains beautiful unplugged performances.
Dream Theater "When Dream and Today Unite"
To be released 12/25/1995 - Limited print of either 500 or 1000.
Contains the songs from Dream and Day only with James LaBrie on
vocals. Collected from MANY sources and optimized for quality.
Some of these still need quality boosts. (Light Fuse, STS...)
Dream Theater "The Lost Artifacts"
Details TBA - Limited print of either 500 or 1000.
Each copy will be hand signed/numbered for authenticity.
Will contain vocalist auditions, demos, errata, outtakes, unfinished
works, unreleased tracks, and the like.
A call for votes: which name should we use?
- Antiquities
- Tapestry
- The Darkest Years
- Forgotten Lore
- The Lost Artifacts
- Mosaic
- Relics from the Vault
Public Affection "The Death of a Dictionary"
Details TBA - Unlimited print
Is actually +Live+'s little-known first album, released in 1989,
two years before their 1991 breakthrough Mental Jewelry. Demand for
this one is skyrocketing, and the Jam gets first shot at it.
The following are all "Work in Progress" releases...
Rush other titles I'm considering (for any of the given shows):
Land's Edge, Storm World, Lifeforce, Arena of the Ancients...
Rush "A Symptom of Life" - from 12/20/81 2nd gen soundboard
Contains a LOT of neat stuff. a LOT. But very long... 2 CD set?
Rush "Concordant Crossroads" - from 3/24/81 audience MASTER in stereo
This one has unbelievable good sound quality. It's a tossup whether
to take this or Symptom, since both are so good but so similar.
Rush "Sleight of Mind" - from a remastered 6/25/75 Toronto
This tour has been very underrepresented in available material, so
who knows, if S.H.'s cleanup efforts turn out good...
+Live+ "Disenchanting Discourse" - from a 10/25/94 audience MASTER in stereo
It might be released, it might not, depending on many things. If you
would like to see it released, please let me know and let as many
people know as you can. I tend to find ways to release things when
I find an overwhelming demand for them. :)
Type O-Negative "Deathgrip" - from a 5/30/94 audience MASTER in stereo
A great setlist and decent sound. Only my worries about how many
copies I can sell prevent this. I can't undertake anything less than
a potential sellout project or I risk going under. Again, if this is
a title you'd like to see, you can make it happen. All I need is a
lot of interest, and away we go! So far I've had a few positive
replies... much much more are needed though.
Dream Theater... oh who knows, there's so much good stuff.
Possible shows:
Osaka soundboard from late 1992
Hamburg soundboard from spring 1993
various excellent DATs recorded in Texas
3. How can I order a copy of Acoustic Dreams?
Finally, I am going to go ahead and let the ordering begin, because
I can tell everyone's excitement level is peaking at this point. :) I will
say this in advance: I expect it to come out 9/30 or thereabouts (I'm going
to try and beat my own schedule) and that's two months away, folks. If that
dosen't bother you too much, I guess it won't bother me either. However, I'm
one of those guys who hates having things take too long. :)
I say this because Subconscious took an unbelievably long time to
turnaround due to delays in the making of it, and despite my best efforts,
Cygnus is going a bit too slow for my taste as well (though it's still within
the predicted schedule, it was a schedule I had been planning to beat). So I
am trying to jumpstart Acoustic Dreams so there's NO DAMN WAITING. :)
FORTUNATELY, we're STILL ON SCHEDULE for release 9/30. Yes!!!
Here's the nitty gritty then:
RESERVATIONS. I'll take them, to save you a COPY, but not necessarily a
_specific copy_. In many cases, people who request special numbers
such as birthdays and so on will get them. But people requesting a
specific low number are going to find that they're all sold. Which
brings me to the next point:
ORDERS. The numbering, excepting special requests when possible, will fill
in the order I receive the mail orders. It's only fair after all.
I'll reserve a copy for someone over e-mail, but if thirty people
get their orders in before he or she does, it's not fair for me to
still hold copy #014 or whatever. You all get the idea... these
decisions are just in the effort to make it fair for all.
Please, I stress to all of you, don't miss this if you missed
Subconscious. It really does pain me to have to tell a fellow DT fan that
there simply aren't any more Sub discs to be had, especially because I would
be MORE than glad to sell one if I had it.
Blanks, materials, studio time, etc is cheaper per unit for a
production line of 1000 than for 500, which is why Cygnus was cheaper for the
Ytsejammers. Acoustic Dreams, alas, must remain $25. I was hoping to bring it
down to $21 or $20 but that wouldn't be cost effective. I think I may be able
to do that for the Public Affection CD, however.
Things are pretty simple from here. Send along a money order for
$25 bucks to my address, being sure to include a note with your name, the
address to ship to, your email address, and WHICH CD you're ordering (after
all, Cygnus is still in ordering) and HOW MANY you're ordering. As before,
international customers may use whatever means of payment is most convenient
for them, though I stress that sending cash is risky and should not be a
first option, but a backup plan. :) Also, to pool opinions: would you all
want me to include a number list as orders are received?
The address and so on is me at:
Mike Bahr - Acoustic Dreams
3175 N. Price Rd. #1066
Chandler, AZ 85224
My home telephone number, available as a courtesy to you, is
1-602-777-0501. I am usually not home on weekends (band practice) so try
during the week, between 6pm and 11pm pacific time, for best results. Also,
please use discretion when handling this number, as it is, after all, my own
home phone, and I will be very confused if a stranger calls at 3:00 AM. :)
I trust you Jammers to be cool about it, as you always have in the past.
Also... watch your time zones! I had one fellow calling at 6:00 AM. Owch!
4. Orders received.
This is NOT "reservations"... it's paid-for orders. If you have a
reservation, it's still valid, trust me. :) These are just the numbers that
are filled. Also there are a handful of "saved numbers" in there.
001 Master 002 Press Master A 003 Press Master B
004 Mike Bahr 005 Justin Poulter 006 Steve McMaster
007 David Fox 008 Robert Dalton 009 Chris King
010 Michael Burstin 011 Brian Cox 012 Scott Hansen
013 Mike Portnoy 014 Mike Portnoy 015 Mike Portnoy
016 Bracken Odiorne 017 John Nguyen 018 Nathan Bradley
019 Mike Engelhardt 020 Todd Masek 021 Johan Moore
022 Mark Tedhams 023 Brian Fieg 024 Adam Japhet
025 Steve Chew 026 Kristian Reyes 027 Alan Wilds
028 Jeff Stewart 029 Matt McIntosh 030 Brian Polka
031 Stephan Dobay 032 Dale Newberry 033 Scott Hansen
034 Sanjeev Ghai 035 Sanjeev Ghai 036 Mike Robinson
037 Paul Poehler 038 Lisa Gaunt 039 Tracy Mangum
040 Jeff Forte 041 Robert Castilone 042 Bracken Odiorne
043 Jean-Francois Cote' 044 Uffe Moller 045 Steve Esterle
046 Chad Smith 047 Scott McCammon 048 David Edwards
049 Craig Newmeyer 050 Partha Mukhopadhyay 051 Dave Silva
052 Dave Silva 053 Dave Silva 054 Dave Silva
055 Robert MacAusland 056 Jason Breitweg 057 Demetris Papallis
058 Adam Marshall 059 Paul Goracke 060 Andrew Garinger
061 Alex Fraser 062 Uffe Moller 063 Fred Ward
064 Matt Masi 065 Iwahori Tomonori 066 Iwahori Tomonori
067 Michael Backof 068 Brian Ross 069 Anna Davidson
070 Kjetil Nordahl 071 Kjetil Nordahl 072 Kjetil Nordahl
073 Bill Wrightson 074 S. Johnson 075 Jaison John
076 Jaison John 077 Craig Newmeyer 078 Paul Humm
079 Jay Miller 080 Astrid De Ronde 081 Jason MacDonald
082 Scott Kuennen 083 Scott Kuennen 084 Rick Beem
085 Mike Ringelstetter 086 Conrad Chi 087 Brian Kirk
088 Brian Adams 089 Chris Freel 090 Chris Freel
091 Patrick Davis 092 Dave Fausel 093 Chris Derobertis
094 Sean Brady 095 S. Craig Caldwell 096 Andrew Stiles
097 Gregory Bunker 098 Eddie Webb 099 Edwin Million
100 Jenn Albert 101 Jenn Albert 102 Jeff Hill
103 Mike Olekshy 104 David Delmont 105 Derek Bober
106 Adam Japhet 107 Jamie Burks 108 George Fan
109 Tony Maglia 110 Stephen Soukup 111 Sookapat Niyomthai
112 David DeSalvo 113 Randy Haskin 114 Jennifer Sharward
115 Bryan Hunter 116 Bryan Hunter 117 Todd Dakin
118 J. R. McCullough 119 Jeff Chew 120 Patrick Sullivan
121 Patrick Sullivan 122 Pete Dziadzka 123 Ken Bibb
124 Jason Russell 125 Gary Ake 126 Bernd Basmer
127 Stefan Sutter 128 Chad Cook 129 Jason Danio
130 Brandon Elhai 131 Mathew Yee 132 Eric Gauthier
133 Eric Gauthier 134 Wilco Barg 135 Joe Kruger
136 Rob Pociluk 137 Brenden Thomson 138 Marton Stromgald
139 Asif Khan 140 Jarrod Ramsey-Lewis 141 Jon Kretschmer
142 Jon Kretschmer 143 Michael Pomerleau 144 Ronald Tijhuis
145 Bill Nottingham 146 James Garrett 147 Reenoitnevnoc
148 Stephane Auzilleau 149 Stephane Auzilleau 150 Stephane Auzilleau
151 Stephane Auzilleau 152 Carl Jason 153 Ken Hugo Hoili
154 Ken Hugo Hoili 155 Shigeru Yamashita 156 Brian Ross
157 Takumi Akiyama 158 John Sievers 159 David Russum
160 David Russum 161 David Russum 162 Stefan Rau
163 Stefan Rau 164 Martin Hayter 165 Martin Hayter
166 Eugene Szucs 167 Warren Williams 168 Tilman Kuendgen
169 Tilman Kuendgen 170 Tilman Kuendgen 171 Chad Preston
172 Gregory Cole 173 Heath Augustover 174 Chris Fyhr
175 Chris Fyhr 176 Chris Fyhr 177 Bill Huston
178 Tim Jensen 179 James Abraham 180 Jeffrey Smith
181 Michael Coghlan 182 Brett Owens 183 David Kobayashi
184 Elliott Kim 185 Ed Polzin 186 Sean Gill
187 Tim Altman 188 Alexis Ramos 189 James Daugherty
190 Jon Heller 191 George Bast 192 Paul Cashman
193 Ramin Miraftabi 194 Stacie Rosenzweig 195 Ryan Whitaker
196 Brian Vivier 197 Kevin Villines 198 Mike Rapazzo
199 Koby Fuessler 200 Merieke Ri Berit 201 Chris Pokladnik
202 Ties Gobel 203 Ties Gobel 204 Chuck Hanley
205 Yuji Miyazaki 206 Chad David 207 Chad David
208 Chad David 209 Bill Polymenakos 210 Greg Sands
211 Greg Sands 212 Ryan Park 213 Evelyn Lauer
214 reserved 215 Jun-Dai Bates 216 Fernando Ma
217 Fernando Ma 218 Tom Tubbiola 219 Ryan Skadberg
220 Ryan Skadberg 221 Patricia McLoughlin 222 Jacob Caminati
223 Rob Schenk 225 Jason Russell
226 Kevin Czarnecki 228 Eric Marlett 240 Chris Mahaffey
244 Andreas Kasper 246 Jan Melander 249 Tim Villa
275 Mark Stahl 293 Steffen Barabasch 294 Steffen Barabasch
299 James Runde 300 James Runde
303 John Mastin 304 John Mastin
310 Craig Erskine 313 Evelyn Lauer 330 Philip Jason
333 Jacob Caminati 350 Keith Aspinal 391 Charlie Farrell
405 Philip Jason
406 Joe Lukas 412 Keith Aspinal 420 Darren Brown
421 Darren Brown 424 David Swanston 427 Ryan Brown
441 Christopher Merlo
444 Jacob Caminati 496 Zach Gemmill 497 Zach Gemmill
498 Zach Gemmill 499 Zach Gemmill 500 Melissa Bentheusen
If you see something that just isn't true, please let me know. :)
-Mike Bahr, durnik@indirect.com
Magic: The Gathering - I light my cigars with burning Black Lotuses.
"I wrote it down so I wouldn't _have_ to remember!" -Dr. Henry Jones Sr.
NOTICE OF AVAILABILITY: RUSH - CYGNUS
UPDATE for 9/21/1995
NOTICE: INTERNET EMAIL ADDRESS CHANGE: I am now durnik@indirect.com
QUICK NOTICE: So far, of the 16 CDs that had been found mis-sorted and re-
sent, 13 have been confirmed received. If you're one of the 3
remaining, _please_ drop me a line... I intend to see to it that
everyone gets what they ordered, after all!! :)
NOTE: I have sent out ALL CDS ordered through TODAY! If you mailed it and
I have received your mail, your CD is going, going, gone! On its
way to you. So guessing approximately, anything sent up until
Friday is probably enroute to you.
Hi all! It's time to update y'all on the CD project. I have finally
received my shipment of the Rush CYGNUS CD, a CD with an incredible sound
board show from the mystical Hemispheres tour, on it. And I guess I will go
ahead and take orders for it... if you like, you can email a reservation
before you send your check or MO. Here's the info:
Rush "CYGNUS"
Recorded at: TCC Arena (Convention Center Arena)
Location: Tucson, Arizona
Date: November 20, 1978
Source: 2nd gen of original soundboard reel,
transferred to 48kHz DAT and mastered to CD
Quality: See notes below.
Track Listing:
Anthem
A Passage to Bangkok
By-Tor & the Snow Dog
I. At the Tobes of Hades
II. Across the Styx
III. Of the Battle
Xanadu
Something for Nothing
The Trees
Cygnus X-1 Book One: The Voyage
Cygnus X-1 Book Two: Hemispheres
I. Prelude
II. Apollo
III. Dionysus
IV. Armageddon
V. Cygnus
VI. The Sphere
Circumstances
A Farewell to Kings
Running time 72:52
I did a pre-order project like this for the Dream Theater mailing list
a few months back and it worked out very, very well. Any of you who want a
reference or voucher for me, direct your question at any DT fan who is on
the Ytsejam list, and I'll let their judgment be the Word.
How to order:
(PLEASE ALLOW 3 to 4 WEEKS FOR DELIVERY.)
-A lot of you might have forgotten about this. Since I'm
caught up to today's orders for mailing, it's not likely to
take quite this long anymore.
Send a cashier's check or money order (made out to me) to:
Michael Bahr
Limelight Music
3175 N. Price Rd. #1066
Chandler, AZ 85224
Note: I'm just a humble fan with a project going, not a store
or CD warehouse... the dealers and mailorder places can give
way better prices on other common boots so I don't have or
sell any of them. Limelight is what I put on my business license
so that I could pay sales tax, thus nobody would ask how I was
getting all this money to deposit and why I'd dump thousands
at a time into CD production. :)
The price is as follows:
$25 US - base
free - postage within the USA
$1 - postage to Canada
$2 - postage to anywhere else
So it would cost $25 to send it to Humble, Texas... $26 to
send it to Lakeside Park... and $27 to Geleen, Holland.
There are around 150 copies left... get 'em while they exist! :)
A note on quality. It has come to my attention that a lot of people
were expecting quality comparable to Rush's live releases (ATWAS, ESL, ASOH)
or comparable live albums of the 1970s. No bootleg can compare to these.
Even the best of them, Rush's Oakland '92 performance, a digital soundboard,
sounds flat and hollow compared to the three live albums. Cygnus is no
exception to this: it does _not_ measure up to the three live albums. But!!
I will stake this claim here and now and defend it until the day I die: The
sound quality of Cygnus is superior to 99% of all Rush bootleg recordings.
Since I own over 1000 Rush shows on tape, I can make this claim with some
degree of accuracy. :) It's a legit soundboard taken on an analog reel,
manually, in 1978. Those factors weigh in when considering the quality. There
are also three dropouts on the master tape that I cleaned up as best I could,
usually by fading into them. Be aware of these things when you order... so far
people have usually been happy with it (all the boot collectors are having a
field day with the comparable quality) but those who were expecting quality
like that of the 3 live albums have been disappointed, every single one of
them. And that's no fun.
Now then, back to ordering via cashier's check or MO.
Why use a cashier's check or MO? Besides the fact that they can't
bounce, they are traceable both ways. You know that if you don't eventually
get a CD or a refund, I'll be in deep shit. :) It's really the safest way to
buy, as I myself have been burned in net dealings before, I do my best to
alleviate those fears where my projects are concerned. Actually, I don't mind
personal checks really... I just recommend the MO or CC because it leaves that
paper trail and is totally safe, and if I _didn't_ recommend MO or CC, you'd
all have reason to believe it was a scam of some sort. So while a personal
check is OK with me, understand that a MO/CC is the best way to buy.
Apparently, this offer isn't as limited as I originally thought...
~425 copies have been ordered so far. However, I didn't order any more than
the initial run of 1000 Cygnus Cds, because there has been a concern raised
that the limited-edition nature of the project could be compromised. I will
not order more than that 1000 unless overwhelming demand says to.
PLEASE! When you send the money order, TELL ME that you're ordering
the Cygnus CD. Most of you are already doing this, I just wanted to make sure
you all knew, as I am still wrapping up work on Subconscious, as well as
taking the early pre-orders for the next Dream Theater CD. Also, be sure to
include your email address. It's quite hard to get ahold of you if something
goes awry, without it. :)
A note on the CD LABEL: It does not say the word "Rush" anywhere on it
but all the songs are labelled correctly (Anthem, The Trees, Hemispheres,
etc.) and it says "Cygnus" rather prominently. Dont let this nuance of
labelling throw you off. A lot of you are already familiar with this, but
before the Italian Cd companies started legally making boots in 1991, all
boots produced in the USA could not bear the band's name on their labels.
Look at Rush boots like "Through any Window" and "Nassau '82".. on the record
labels they have fake band names and song names. I just put the real song
names and "Cygnus" and left Rush off, since I didn't want to complicate things
any more than they already were. It _IS_ the Rush show from 11/20/78 and it
is already well known here on the net, if a bit scarce.
If anyone has any questions, please feel free to email me or call me
at (602) 777-0501, between the hours of 6pm and 11pm Pacific time. I'm sorry
that I don't have an answering machine (as this is my home line, it's mainly
available to all of you as a courtesy) but if I'm there, we'll chat. I do
have classes these days so I may or may not be there. I do have work and
school like the rest of you, after all. Please understand why you may not
catch me at home the first three or four times you try. If the phone rings,
I *WILL* answer it if I'm there, that much I will definitely
promise you. If you miss me entirely and want *me* to call *you*, I will
do so if you leave your number in email. Please understand that it will
probably be brief as I'm a starving student with a phone bill. :)
Thanks all!
-Mike Bahr, durnik@indirect.com
"All sweeping generalizations are bad."
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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 95 20:40:13 PDT
From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Cover concepts on I&Ws & Awake
Message-ID: <9509220340.AA27241@tengs1.teng>
>
> The first Ytsejam I ever received had this post on it by...I dont know
> who...but I thought it was real cool so I saved it. Read on my freinds!
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >Subject: Awake cover representations...
<<major annihilation>>
> >
> > One final thing: When I first bought Awake, I thought the statue was
> >holding a torch. I guess however that he's just tugging at his beard or
> >something. Does anyone know if this is an actual statue or just something
> >the artist made up?
The night before Awake came out, my friend was lucky enough to
get a copy of the CD (I already had a tape of it thanks to Tim
Lodge). He called me on the phone that night and said that the
statue looked familiar to him. Unearthing pictures from his
Europe trip years ago, he identified it as Michaelangelo's
_Moses_. His photo was from a slightly different angle, but he
was adament about it. I forget which museum in Italy that the
statue resides...
My favorite cover concept has to be the sparrow falling
on the cover of IAW. Coming in a close second might be the
cover/innersleeve of ACOS. What a cool concept.
Zach
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Date: Fri, 22 Sep 95 0:31:51 EDT
From: Damon M. Fibraio <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Derek's keyboard sounds
Message-ID: <9509220431.AA17924@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To Rob Martino:
E-Mail me at s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu. I want to talk keyboards.
While I can't really answer your question, I think us keysmen should talk as
often as we can. To give you some question to answer, I want to know what
keyboards/racks/effects you use, and what music you play? Talk to you soon, I
hope.
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