YTSEJAM Digest 963
Today's Topics:
1) ACoS
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
2) ACoS and How I Discovered DT
by 91laujon@wave.scar.utoronto.ca (LAU JONATHAN)
3) Cygnus CD -- my $.02
by Paul Gregory Humm <p-humm@students.uiuc.edu>
4) How did ya get it?
by "BRENDEN R. THOMSON" <slayerbr@student.gu.edu.au>
5) ACoS (what else?)
by Paul Gregory Humm <p-humm@students.uiuc.edu>
6) YES!!ROCK!!!
by Fernando Ma <ma@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
7) Well ....
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
8) DT interactive
by Fernando Ma <ma@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
9) Oh yeah....
by Mike Patrick <mpatrick@netusa1.net>
10) A Change of Seasons
by Ben Kobashigawa <bk7585@mercury.sfsu.edu>
11) insightful pointlessness
by _the_pipeline_ <sdh9b@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu>
12) uh duh. ACoS?
by SaVeur <jjens@gmu.edu>
13) Whoa! More ACOS.
by Larry G Waterfield <mulgw1@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>
14) Re: NO DT Content! (oh no...)
by "Hitchcock's Other Eye" <ancl@freenet.scri.fsu.edu>
15) ACOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by omman@sky.net
16) What else?
by Mike Patrick <mpatrick@netusa1.net>
17) priviledged..
by William Kriski <wkriski@enci.ucalgary.ca>
18) ACOS Poll
by srvrip@qualcomm.com (John Hough)
19) ACOS
by srvrip@qualcomm.com (John Hough)
20) AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
by WarrenDW@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 20:33:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam SERVER)
Subject: ACoS
Message-ID: <199509200033.UAA17443@opal.cs.brandeis.edu>
Well, I went to Newbury's today to get ACoS (big surprise) and have
listened to it about 10 times w/in the past few hours...
First reactions... Sounds awsome... I love the new instrumental
beginnings... I still do sing most of hte DoE lyrics to alot of
parts, even though I have heard the new version for the past few weeks
on the 2 ACoS shows that I have...
One thing that I think was wrong was the lyrical change made most
recently removing "mercy fuck" for sympathy... As I said many times
before, I don;'t think that using fuck in a song is too bad if it fits
the context (as in Operation: Mindcrime "25 bucks a fuck") and I think
it fits the context of the song... I still almost cringe when I hear
sympathy said in the song... even though of the 2 other versions of
ACoS that I have w/ the new version, only one has fuck... I also
always find myself singing mercy fuck to the song...
I mean, I don't follow the logic of changing it... its not like they
have to worry about a radio station censoring it... I mean, who is
going to play a 23 min song...
Other comments... I think that they have really outdone themsevlves
here... I love the new sound of the song... the added crunch where
needed... I still have to get used tothe new speed of the lyrics
(especially wher ethe lyrics are slower than before) I also like the
new harmonies on some portions of the lyrics...
I am also finally glad that I can read the lyrics, instead of trying
to figure out WTF the lyrics are in the part "life goes off the beaten
track" (you don't know how long I was tryiong to figure out "life goes
on, they all beat in ???? was supposed to mean")
Lets see... any other comments... none that I can think of about the
song...
I am still undecided about the front cover... I definatly thing I
like the I&W & Awake covers better... but this one is interesting,
and better than alot of the boring ones out there...
I also love that we got mentioned in the liner notes... I am realyl
starting to thing that someone else is here from the band, rather than
just getting Ytsejam off to the side (If I'm correct, hi John, John,
Mike, James, and/or Dereck *grin*) Also, if I'm correct, how about
having Electra changing the link on their DT page to my DT page to be
correct... *grin*
Finally, about the covers gig... well, I can't say much about
them... I've had the entire gig on tape for some time now, so I am
familiar w/ the material, although this recording (obviously) is MUCH
clearer... Anyway, I have homework to do, so I think I've spent
enough time here for now...
Oh, one last thing, as the portion is coming onto my CD player... am
I the only one that hears Erotomania in the portions from around 2:45
until around 3:30 or so...
--
+----------------------------+---------------+---------------------+
| We can learn from the past | Dream Theater | Michael Burstin |
| But those days are gone +---------------+ Brandeis University |
| We can hope for the Future | A Change Of +---------------------+
| But there may not be one | Seasons | Here we go STEELERS |
+----------------------------+---------------+---------------------+
For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/home.html
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Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 20:59:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: 91laujon@wave.scar.utoronto.ca (LAU JONATHAN)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: ACoS and How I Discovered DT
Message-ID: <9509200059.AA14421@wave.scar.utoronto.ca>
Okay first of all... A Change of Seasons...
Today is the 19th of September. Finally!!!
But unfortunately I had to work all day today
and didn't get to pick up the CD until 6PM tonight.
Get this... There are 3 music stores at my local
shopping mall. I couldn't find ACoS at the first
2 stores I walked into. The staff said that they've
never even heard of Dream Theater before. I was
getting worried. Then I walked into the third store.
It was an "HMV". YES!!!! They had it right there
in the 'New Releases' section. It was $13.99 CDN.
I was so excited. I was telling the cashier about
how long I've been waiting for this CD. The guy
tells me that he's never heard of Dream Theatre.
He says, "What are they, an alternative band?".
I say, "Well I really can't describe them but
they're sort of like Metal and Progressive Rock."
He didn't look too interested. He looked disgusted.
Then he tells me that I'm like the 4th person to
buy this CD all day and it was like 6PM. What?!
Hasn't anybody heard of Dream Theater before.
I mean... they only sold 4 ACoS CDs all day?!
Oh well.
In YTSEJAM #961 Heath Augustover asked how everybody
discovered Dream Theater.
This is how I discovered DT. I was reading the
National Midnight Star (TNMS) which is the Rush
equivalent of the YtseJam. This was back in March.
Some people were writing about how great DT was.
I decided to take a chance on 'Images & Words'.
I was very impressed. A week later I bought
"Awake". That's when I really became a DT fan.
A few days later, I bought everything else, that is...
"Live it Tokyo video", "WDADU", "Live at the Marquee".
Basically, in less than 2 weeks I bought all the DT
stuff. I was hooked. I love this band.
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Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 16:57:07 -0500 (CDT)
From: Paul Gregory Humm <p-humm@students.uiuc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Cygnus CD -- my $.02
Message-ID: <Pine.Sola.3.91.950919150528.2633B-100000@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu>
It's been a little while since I received my copy of Cygnus (thanks
Mike!), and I've been meaning to make some comments about it for anyone
who's interested, so here it goes.
First, I was pleased to find that I was one of the lucky people to
receive a free videotape with the CD. The video that I got contains
assorted appearances of Dream Theater on eMpTyV Europe's Headbanger's
Ball. There's some really cool stuff on the tape, probably the coolest
being some short excerpts from the "Uncovered" gig. I would like to
publicly thank Mike Bahr for coming through with free videotapes for
a few lucky Cygnus recipients.
Now, on to the CD. I'm not an expert on bootlegs, and I won't pretend
otherwise. However I do have a few CD bootlegs of various bands, ranging
from stuff recorded in the mid-70's to the early 90's. I know that, based
on the bootlegs I have heard, older shows tend not to sound as good as
newer shows (which only makes sense). Thus I was a bit skeptical when
Mike claimed that the sound quality of Cygnus was "Beyond comparison.
Higher than Oakland '92 and Pinkpop." Now I happen to own the first
bootleg to which he referred, i.e. Rush 'n' Roulette '92, and it sounds
excellent. I think that the sound quality of Cygnus is very good for a
bootleg from 1978, but it definitely does NOT sound as good as Rush 'n'
Roulette '92. Also I noticed, as many people have, that there are a few
places where small parts of songs are missing due to drop-outs on the master
tape, which I don't believe Mike mentioned when he was advertising the CD.
I'm still very happy with the CD. I think that the show sounds good
enough (even with the drop-outs) that it deserved to be put on CD, and
I'm very glad that Mike Bahr undertook the project. The sound quality is
only a little lower than what I expected (although I didn't really expect
it to be as good as Rush 'n' Roulette), and the drop-outs aren't that big
a deal. I would have still paid $23 for the CD if I had known exactly
what it would sound like. However, I am a bit unhappy with Mike Bahr for
misleading us into thinking that Cygnus would sound a bit better than it
actually does. As I said, I'm not disappointed with the CD, but I can
see how some people who ordered it might be.
Anyway, that's my (rather lengthy) two cents, for what it's worth.
Paul Humm
p-humm@uiuc.edu
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 08:00:28 +1000 (EST)
From: "BRENDEN R. THOMSON" <slayerbr@student.gu.edu.au>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: How did ya get it?
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950920075840.25827A-100000@frodo>
What I want to know is that - if ACOS has not been
releaesd yet - then how come so many people have got themselves a copy?
See ya - Brenden
BTW - are there any DT fans from Australia on this list or am I
the only one?
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Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 17:32:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: Paul Gregory Humm <p-humm@students.uiuc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: ACoS (what else?)
Message-ID: <Pine.Sola.3.91.950919165722.2674A-100000@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu>
I know I will probably be one of only a few hundred people to do this,
but now that I have purchased the ACoS CD, I'd like to post a few things
about A Change of Seasons that I either particularly liked or didn't like.
Things I liked:
1. The new intro: This is a much better way to start the song than the
way it starts on the Vocalist Audition Tapes version or the Dance of
Eternity version.
2. They put back in the line "We can hope for the future, but there may
not be one." I think that the line before it ("We can learn from the
past, but those days are gone") sounds incomplete without it.
3. The way James speaks and sings each line from "Preparing for her
flight" up to "I said, 'I love you ...'" and then just speaks the word
"good-bye".
4. Probably a million other little things that I will notice little by
little as I listen to the song more and more.
Things I didn't like:
1. Kevin Moore's awesome keyboard playing is gone. Derek does a fine job,
but there were a few things in particular that Kevin played on this song
that I thought were awesome and are no longer present.
2. I was extremely unhappy to find that they cut one of my favorite lyrical
passages by Dream Theater or any other band, namely:
"Every day there's a constant reminder
of all the pleasures we shared together
Love is not just a passing word
It's a state of heart that goes on forever"
and also the passage
"I stood outside in the rain for us
I tried to work out all the pain for us
I sat alone and took the blame for us
My mind has torn and gone insane for us
Innocent sinner
Repeat offender
Promiscuous promiser
Faith lender
Indecisive decisions . . ."
(etc.)
There are actually two more lines in that last passage, but I'm not
sure what James is saying in them.
3. I like the arrangement of the "Crimson Sunset" section better in the
Vocalist Audition and Dance of Eternity versions than in the new
version. They are similar, but the new version has some changes in the
lyrics. The lyrics in the new version are also pretty cool, and have
roughly the same meaning as those in the old versions, so I may grow
to like the new ending better after I hear it more.
That's my two cents about A Change of Seasons. I bet if we add my two
cents to everyone else's who posts opinions about ACoS, we would have at
least a dollar. OK, so that wasn't very funny, but it's the best I could
come up with after spending several hours staring at a computer screen.
Paul Humm
p-humm@uiuc.edu
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Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 14:57:11 -0700 (MST)
From: Fernando Ma <ma@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
To: Ytsejam List <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: YES!!ROCK!!!
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950919143937.23239A-100000@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
Guess what the topic is for today? Yep, A Change of Seasons. It
completely rocks...I havent heard any live versions of it though, so I
have no opinions between the two. The live stuff is also great...hats
off to the engineers and mixers and the other behind the scenes
people...the sound quality is excepional. You can even hear the bass :D.
Gotta love it...licks fingering good.
Fern
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Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 20:29:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Well ....
Message-ID: <199509200029.UAA13134@wicked.stigmata.org>
<beavis mode on>
IT RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<beavis mode off>
Well, I'm on my second run so far and it just rocks. I love it.
The only prob is that I gotta fix my sig now ;)
Well, the new lyric are at http://www.dreamt.org/acos.html for anyone
interested.
I still miss the Don't Go part too :(
Skadz
--
=-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_=
| | "Seize the day |
| Ryan P. Skadberg | I heard him say |
| skadz@bluesky.net | life will not always be this way |
| System Administrator | look around, and hear the sound |
| Blue Sky Inc. | another time like this can't be found" |
| | "A Change Of Seasons" - Dream Theater |
=-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_=
| My home page: http://www.bluesky.net/skadz |
| My Dream Theater Page: http://www.dreamt.org |
| Pages I have designed: |
| http://www.stream.com - Stream International, Inc. |
| http://www.ma.cancer.org - American Cancer Society, MA Division |
=-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_=
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Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 17:26:35 -0700 (MST)
From: Fernando Ma <ma@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
To: Ytsejam List <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: DT interactive
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950919172327.12924A-100000@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
To all of you who have trouble running the DT interactive because of
"memory problems," you probably didn't "unzip" it. PKZIP is the program,
and it's all over the net. Once you get it, read the directions. This is
for the PC version, not Mac.
Fern
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Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 08:25:58 -0400
From: Mike Patrick <mpatrick@netusa1.net>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Oh yeah....
Message-ID: <199509200214.VAA10740@web.netusa1.net>
Sorry for two posts, but hey, some here have gone way over that in one day!
How about Derek playing piano over some really crunchy parts? I LOVE IT!!!!
Man, the more I hear him, the more impressed I am (minus the mess-ups, which
I have to admit make for some pretty funny moments live when the band hams
it up).
Mike Patrick
mpatrick@netusa1.net
Still searching for that elusive corner of the Net where civility is all the
rage and the content is substantive. Ah, screw it. Who am I kidding?
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Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 18:55:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ben Kobashigawa <bk7585@mercury.sfsu.edu>
To: Dream Theater <Ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: A Change of Seasons
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950919185130.12704A-100000@orion>
I just picked it up today. I had lunch at 9:50 in the morning,
and had my friend drive me to Musicland. We got there about two and a
half seconds before they opened the doors. It was cool. I immediately
purchased all of their copies (all two of them), and one tape to listen
to on the way home.
Nothing short of Mahler's 2nd, 5th, or 6th has ever had a better
opening than A Change of Season. Hell of bad-ass.
As for the guy selling the Subconscious, I think it's fine, it
just shouldn'y be done on the mailing list.
It rules the world! It rules the world! It rules the world! etc. etc.
-Jun-Dai Bates
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Date: Tue, 19 Sep 95 22:05:54 EDT
From: _the_pipeline_ <sdh9b@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: insightful pointlessness
Message-ID: <199509200206.WAA18955@uva.pcmail.Virginia.EDU>
hey people
& now for something completely different--
proving once again how effective the internet is at totally wasting time: a
friend told me about this web page that will produce anagrams of any word or
phrase you type in. it's pretty cool when you anagram your name and find all
this shit with hidden meanings in there; so, being a relatively new 'jammer,
i tried out the phrase "dream theater" and, at no extra charge, here are some
of the best ones (but by no means all of the ones) it came up with.
red meat hater
retard hate me
mr. death eater
hatred tear me
adhere matter
retreated ham
three made art (a rush reference?)
fucked up, huh? check out the band members' names:
john petrucci
conjure pitch (that's awesome)
chronic upjet (for all you potheads)
jot epic churn (songwriting style?)
june crop itch (no comment)
mike portnoy (these are all cool)
top minor key
money trip ok
piety or monk?
my porno kite
try my p-nookie!
derek sherinian
naked rinse heir (kinky)
drink anise here (again, one for the organic substance abusers)
drier nine shake (meaningless)
james labrie (sorry dude, these are lame)
jailer beams
biles ear jam (nasty)
john myung (alas, nothing works for you, man)
bonus:
kevin moore
evoke minor (interesting musical vibe)
eve room ink (songwriting setting for "eve"? cool)
venom ire ok (yeah, he's bitter all right)
invoke more (whatever)
ok, now, pointless as that was, you people _have_ to get on the net, go to
this anagram page, and enter "images and words." there are almost 1600
anagrams from that (that's only the limit of the program; there are more),
and they all fucking mean something. it's scary how oddly thought-provoking
some of the stuff that comes up is--
drama's wide song
mends radio wags
media sword sang
dogma rises dawn
(and my personal favorites so far)
dawn's mad orgies
grimed swans ado
sadism-drawn-ego (fuck yeah!)
but there are so many more-- it is seriously very cool, you must do this.
give it a shot, see what you can find in your own name, or your friends'
names, or anything. it's addictive, and your free time will vanish. the
address is:
<http://www.infobahn.com/pages/anagram.html>
sorry about the length. hope i provided a cool break from all the ACoS
praise (i thought it was insanely cool; title track kept reminding me of ELP
on steroids... plus the old guy on the inside cover reminds me of keith
emerson for some reason).
(and to all you progressive rock fans with seriously sick senses of humor,
mr. bungle's new album _Disco Volante_ comes out oct. 10. for the unbungled,
the debut album is the most obscene, hilarious, and musically brilliant
avant-circus-jazz-funk-prog-metal-fest ever. for us bungle fans, oct. 10
will be pottie time.)
i'm gone.
scott herman.
_Ze beatings vill continue until morale improves._
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 00:23:50 -0400
From: SaVeur <jjens@gmu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: uh duh. ACoS?
Message-ID: <199509200423.AAA17912@reactor.site.gmu.edu>
hey there folx,
i was sitting in Chemistry class. the prof was saying something about a test
next week. needless to say, i wasn't exactly paying 100% attention to him. i
*wanted* ACoS! bad. so i pack up my stuff and sit for another 15 minutes.
finally, the prof says he's done; and i'm out the door. i more or less run
to my car (a full 15 mins away) and jet to the closest Best Buys (btw, for
those of you in the Northern VA area, the new Fairfax Parkway 7100 to I-66
is open and quite nice :)
so i finally (12 mins later) get there and go directly to the DT bin.
ahhhhhhhh sweat release. i grab ACoS and the SM single as well, look for
Fate Warning's Chasing Time; no dice :( pick up NIN the Downward Spiral (i
like the remixes of Piggy and self destruction better on FDTS. oops, wrong
list ;)
then i mosy on over to the car audio section and procede to drive the
salesman away by blasting +live+. bored, i pay for the CDs and hurry out to
my car, rip open ACoS and begin playing it...
--------------------------------meat-of-my-post--------------------------------
I. ACoS
after 2 listen's i'm still stunned. i like the new beginning, all soft and
classical, but it's not the same up-in-your-face-million-note-scale-thingy
that the Subcon version is. it will take some getting used to. it's a good
thing though.
drums: i absolutely *LOVE* Mike's snare!!!!! YES! *THAT* is what a snare
should sound like! i just can't stand those damned trashcans that metal and
rock drummers so adore. yuk! gimme a nice, crisp, bright piccolo snare
anyday. the rest of Mike's sound is kool, too ;)
i'll always sing the "PLEASE DON'T GO!" part. and the "I gave you all the
world" part. maybe theycould have sung the "original" part under the new
part? too bad i can't sing...i like the vocal harmonies and overall KJ's
voice is great. i swear it's Sebastian Bach in some parts ;) there's a few
places where he could've/should've sung higher, but it's their song, not mine :)
the ending is kool. sam as the beginning, i like the Subcon version's
suddenness better, but it'll grow. the ending passage absolutely REAKS of
Fates. not a bad thing, mind you.
II. Uncovered
2.FFaF/LLB (gotta love those abbrs. ;) : ummm, ok. i'm not a huge elton fan.
maybe i'll play this for my gf's mom who is.
3.PS: this song rocks! i've heard the original once (a friend's dad was a
roadie/guitar tech for Deep Purple waaaaaaaaay) but DT roolz this!
4.tR/ALS/tSRtS: heheh pretty kool. i was once really big into Zep. dad will
like this :)
5.tBM: ahhh K-Billy's Super Sounds of the 70's (and early 80's) doesn't
sound better. mom will hate the BR (she's a die-hard Queen fan). gotta love
KJ's vocals on LTS!
III. art
i like it. kudos to Mike for the idea. overall, anyone else think this is a
"Mike Portnoy Disc"?? he's involved in every step: lyrics, music, art,
production...speaking of Mike, what's the deal with his left arm? his right
one is all muscular and flexed (like he twisted it towards the front to show
his flaming heart tattoo) but his left is all straight and non-muscular
looking. just a thought.
IV. Derek
he's gonna fit nicely into DT's recording lineup. different than Moore (of
course). but different is good. anyone else think Derek looks like one of
the Red Hot Chili Pecker's guitarists (the newest one?)?? i swear he does :)
woah. sorry for the length. more later. maybe...
-john; MP for President in 96!!!!
john c. jens, jr. jjens@gmu.edu http://www.site.gmu.edu/~jjens/
#include <iostream.h> void main() { for(int i=0; i>0; i++) cout << "DT ROOLZ!"
<<endl; }
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Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 23:38:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: Larry G Waterfield <mulgw1@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Whoa! More ACOS.
Message-ID: <199509200438.XAA22565@ecom1.ecn.bgu.edu>
Fellow 'on-line "Jammers"':
I feel much different since my last post. I've since played ACOS on my
home stereo (100 watt w/Bose 401's) and wow! The production is
incredible. I've really never heard anything so clear. Almost too clear.
The acoustic thing that bookends the song is really awe-inspiring. Wow.
Secondly, I'd like to say that I'm really touched that DT mentioned us.
I really am. I guess this means that they wouldn't have done it if we
hadn't kept pestering them? I'm glad they pay attention, and I'm glad
that they took the time (sorry, that wasn't intentional) to make a CD
just for the fans. Way cool.
BTW, the snare is too dry and the kick drum is too thin. :)
I still don't know which version I like better. The old one is more
familiar, but I'm trying not to let that influence me. I was trying to
sing along with the new one, but everthing is so different. I love it.
Better keep this short. It's gonna be a long 'Jam.
Happy listening!
L. Glenn Waterfield
<.sig left out for special considerations>
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 01:02:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Hitchcock's Other Eye" <ancl@freenet.scri.fsu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: NO DT Content! (oh no...)
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9509200110.B29220-0100000@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu>
On Tue, 19 Sep 1995, James Peele wrote:
> Are there any Shadowfax fans out there? I heard that Chuck Greenberg
> died of a heart attack. Shadowfax is one of my favorite bands and this
> is quite upsetting.
I'm a Shadowfax fan. Where did you hear this from? Thats TERRIBLE news!
Losing Charlie Bisharat and G.E. Stinson was bad enough, but Chuck
Greenburg dying? I dont see how we can have any semblance of Shadowfax
without him. First Jeremy Brett, now Chuck Greenburg. What a rotten
weekend it was...
Andrew
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Elizabeth Taylor Here
& in
Al Capone slept here... Chicago
..and they LOVED it! "The Land that A/C Forgot"
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Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 20:20:23 -0500
From: omman@sky.net
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: ACOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-ID: <199509200120.UAA05296@solar.sky.net>
I got it today!! It rocks!!! oh yeah!!!
The intro is just AMAZING!! It sounds A LOT like the intro
from ULTIMA 6. I just am wondering if the changed "mass fuck"
to "sympathy" by resampling it, or re-doing it entirely?
And is the BIG MEDLEY a mixture of parts of al those six songs,
or did they do it in their entirity and made it together in one
song for the EP?
ANXIOUSLY AWAITING ACCOUSTIC DREAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!
(here's to the only month with TWO Dream Theater CDS released)
James
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Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 08:17:31 -0400
From: Mike Patrick <mpatrick@netusa1.net>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: What else?
Message-ID: <199509200205.VAA10699@web.netusa1.net>
NEWSFLASH!!!!! Derek Sherinian and Dave Navarro of the Chilli Peppers -
separated at birth !!!! THINK ABOUT IT.
I love the pictures of the band. James waving his hands around is cool.
Love the song - much better than DoE. This may have been mentioned before
since some have complained a little about the production, but does anyone
else find ACoS a little thin?!? I&W was very up front and in your face -
this tune seems to lack (for want of a better term) the same sonic presence.
Make sense?
J.P.'s 7 string is nowhere near as obnoxious as AWAKE. I like it here (and
I liked it there).
Coolest part for me? All the voices swirling around at about 9:30. James
is really hitting his mark. Oh yeah, and at about 18:40 - very CIaWish,
which makes me want to cry since I love it so. And the Wah Wahs at 19:30.
Again, very 6:00 and CIaWish.
Man, the production on the covers is GREAT. Hats off on that.
That's it. Accept that Derek and Navarro really ought to check their family
trees.
Mike Patrick
mpatrick@netusa1.net
Still searching for that elusive corner of the Net where civility is all the
rage and the content is substantive. Ah, screw it. Who am I kidding?
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Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 19:43:28 -0600 (MDT)
From: William Kriski <wkriski@enci.ucalgary.ca>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: priviledged..
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950919193806.17118A-100000@casual1>
Does anyone else feel priviledged to be getting ACoS at the same time as
everyone else? I've only read a few posts before today of people with
advanced copies and for once it's nice to be getting something by DT
along with everyone else. Up here in Canada we rarely get a chance to
see DT so it feels nice.
To JennieBear: I think you should read that guy's letter again. He said
he doesn't know anyone that DRUMS like Portnoy (not LIKES Portnoy).
I understand that having your favourite band insulted is not pleasant,
but after reading Jose's letter, doesn't anyone feel the least bit guilty
for hammering him? From the looks of it, he's located in Brasil and
hasn't completely grasped the English language. There, there, Jose....
Will
Let the flames begin...
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Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 19:03:44 -0700
From: srvrip@qualcomm.com (John Hough)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: ACOS Poll
Message-ID: <199509200203.TAA03162@wizard.qualcomm.com>
This goes out to everyone who has bought ACOS already. (which better be all
971 of you!)
I want imput on three things:
1. From 1-10, what do you give this CD?
2. Which section of the song ACOS is your favorite (I,II,III,IV,V,VI, or VII)?
3. Which cover is your favorite? (Please be specific, don't say just "Elton
John" or "The Medley")
Please Email me personally. Thanks.
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John Hough
srvrip@qualcomm.com
"Until I saw the desire for revenge, my heart never once went astray"
"As long as I have to die in the attempt, then there is no reason"
"To Live Forever" ---- Dream Theater
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Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 19:03:41 -0700
From: srvrip@qualcomm.com (John Hough)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: ACOS
Message-ID: <199509200203.TAA03159@wizard.qualcomm.com>
I have spent the majority of the day enjoying ACOS. I love it! I think the
production is great and the live stuff sounds so f'in good. ACOS is incredible!
I have only heard the Subcon version and I have to say that I did not pay too
much attention to it because the sound is not that great. So this new
version is
the one I will base all judgements on. My favorite section is "V. Another
World".
I think James has never sang better on any song than in this section. The
line that
starts "No Matter what, don't let him be. Let's feed upon his misery." gave
me chills
right off the bat. I also think the harmonies are bitching, I have always
wished they
would do more of them. I think that Derek does a great job, and I personally
like his
soloing style more than Kevin's. I know I am not speaking for the majority
but that's
my opinion. I am worried about Derek's writing skills, I guess we will have to
wait.
I like the Elton covers alot, the DP cover kicks ass, the LZ covers are good
but me not
being a fan of LZ, I will have a hard time liking these even if Kiss did
them (my all time
favorite band). The medley is incredible! I think they did a great job of
switching from
song to song. The Journey part is very hypnotizing! I do wish James would
have wailed
out "Carry on, well will always remember......" I love that part!
Any way, I love this CD and I hope to also see some interesting
interpretations of
the cover art.
Enjoy one and all!
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John Hough
srvrip@qualcomm.com
"Until I saw the desire for revenge, my heart never once went astray"
"As long as I have to die in the attempt, then there is no reason"
"To Live Forever" ---- Dream Theater
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Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 23:22:46 -0400
From: WarrenDW@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-ID: <950919232245_24014749@mail06.mail.aol.com>
OK...enough is enough you guys. Anyone who got ACOS before the release date
and
listened to it is, sorry, an asshole. Same goes for the rest of you who live
in the New Jersey area and got to see DT after their Europe tour. If you were
able to attend a Mike Portnoy and/or a John Petrucci clinic........you too,
except Tim Lodge..thanks for the video.
And while I am at it... HAIRBALL...if you have access to what it sounds like
you have access to then you are on my list too. Sorry to be so brutal.
Also, since I am still trying to get the DT Fan Club send me the shit I paid
for...anyone
who is a member and is getting regular mailings you are, yes, an asshole too.
......We all know Jose-who-hates-Rush is one too.
I don't mean to be petty but if you don't live in Portland, Oregon like I
do.....asshole!
To paraphrase from an earlier post...Petrucci and other musicians "play it
safe" by
playing their solos exactly like the studio recording...as a guitartist I can
say with total
certainty that it is much easier to" wing it" on a solo than play every thing
note for note
as it was recorded...especially DT songs . Anyone who
disagrees..............yep...asshole.
Ken the Slave...thanks for explaining the "slave" part.....had me
worried...:)
Members of BLIND Melon...total assholes. I have no tolerance for empty headed
criticism of the world's greatest band.
Thanks for letting me get this out of my system......
Warren in Oregon
Warren... not a member of the DT fan Club
Warren...without ACOS
Warren... without a CD recorder
Warren...I bought some more beer
Warren...spelled Rhythm correctly this time
Hi BABS...(it is in the mail as of tomorrow)BTW..have you seen Stimpy's
cousin
Sven yet??
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