YTSEJAM Digest 988
Today's Topics:
1) Usual Suspects/ACoS -- Erotomania
by Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
2) YJ #985
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
3) Don Petrucci's retaliation
by E. Waldron <EWALDRON@RGSPS.WPO.UKANS.EDU>
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 985
by Kyle Mallett <krm95g@timon.acu.edu>
5) Multiple replies (long)
by psifire@netcom.com (Mathew W. Yee)
6) JP's sound
by "Abu Shams M. Ahmed" <mmahmed@mtu.edu>
7) Pretend I'm Newsweek: Awake (up arrow) ACOS <-> Bafu Vai (Up)
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
8) Forming Progressive Metal Band
by Andrew Schiller <aschille@sienahts.edu>
9) Hmmmm.....
by laussade@enet.net (praxxix)
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 983
by James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
11) ACoS reviews, other stuff...
by zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
12) Metropolis II
by euan@waikato.ac.nz (Euan Kilgour)
13) smaller jams
by tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen)
14) DT stuff
by hiw100@psu.edu (howard wiener)
15) Re: A New Thread!?--PLEASE READ!
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
16) Burrn! Readers Poll
by Masa Daigo <QZE13533@niftyserve.or.jp>
17) Michael Bahr
by borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk
18) YTSEJAM digest 986
by "Steven Johnson, P" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
19) How can i get the klist in seperate mails
by thunder@UFCC.UFL.EDU
20) YTSEJAM digest 986
by "Steven Johnson, P" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
21) screwed up text in last jam??
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
22) DMB
by Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
23) GO RYAN!
by "Dan R. Licon" <yama@ecst.csuchico.edu>
24) Petrucci Poster?
by Jason Breitweg <jbreitwe@lobelia.physics.wisc.edu>
25) Re: YTSEJAM digest 986
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
26) Fates Warning
by "Andrew S. Moore" <AMOORE@riker.anglia.ac.uk>
27) Re: A New Thread!?--PLEASE READ!
by mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
28) JLaB improvisation
by zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 12:45:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
To: DT List <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Usual Suspects/ACoS -- Erotomania
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9509271229.D89934-0100000@acs4.bu.edu>
Usual Suspects is also a great flick -- Kevin Spacey makes one hell of a
bad guy!
(DTC)- John L., you're totally right about that part in ACoS that people
think sounds like Erotomania. Erotomania is all chromatic and whatnot,
whereas ACoS is just phrygian. I guess the key sound is what did it.
Later!
Brian
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:17:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: YJ #985
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91j.950927101202.43140B-100000@homer28.u.washington.edu>
To David G. Swanston IV: "Joey...you have to stop the Q-tip when there's
RESISTANCE." It still makes me laugh when I think about it!
To Paul Cashman: a John Petrucci clinic? I know he disapproves of
bootlegs, but I don't suppose you could organize something in which
someone were to, um, videotape or possibly audiotape the clinic itself?
Seriously, this would not only be entertaining to us Dream Theater masses,
it would be extremely educational to us struggling guitarists!
Bafu Vai
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 12:38:02 -0600
From: E. Waldron <EWALDRON@RGSPS.WPO.UKANS.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Don Petrucci's retaliation
Message-ID: <s06945f7.036@POBOX.CC.UKANS.EDU>
just felt the need to comment on Bafu Vai's "Godfather" inspired post.
while it would definitely be an interesting way to get Metropolis II
released, i do not recommend following through with it. i have a feeling
John Petrucci would give you an offer you couldn't refuse if you touched
his guitar.
elise
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 12:42:52 -0500 (CDT)
From: Kyle Mallett <krm95g@timon.acu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 985
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.950927124115.14821B-100000@timon.acu.edu>
To the person who asked if anyone else had trouble getting a
response from the fan club in N.Y.: YES! I send money in back in
February and I have never heard back. If anyone has info. on this, I'd
appreciate it.
I would also like a D.T. poster if there are any out there.
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 10:51:16 -0700
From: psifire@netcom.com (Mathew W. Yee)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Multiple replies (long)
Message-ID: <199509271751.KAA00654@netcom13.netcom.com>
Airdance:
>I can't believe you actually picked that out! Nice ears! :)
Couldn't help it. I was listening to Kevin's demo tape for 2 weeks
straight whilst I was waiting for ACOS. :)
>Maybe he's really just a closet "Full House" fan and won't admit it though. ;)
I'd be more of a FH fan if they had gotten rid of that little brat
Michelle. Talk about gag-worthy.
Jason Giles:
>damn it all! I KNOW I edited the right file, but my changes apparently weren't
>saved, so I posted a file with incorrect shirt order info. Sorry for the
>confusion. Here's what I meant to send:
Was wondering why you were allowing orders until May of next year. :)
To everyone:
>The shirts are black 100% pre-shrunk cotton, with the Majesty logo on the
>front breast. Underneath it 'ytesejam the internet mailing digest' is written.
>On the back there is a large DREAM THEATER logo, with 'let the light surround'
>you written in greyish, glow in the dark ink.
If you don't have one, get one! It's a great shirt, and I get questions
about it everytime I wear it. Only problem is that people obviously don't
know about DT. When I mention that it's a progressive metal band, the
usual question is: "Oh, which instrument to you play?" I'm usually tempted
to say I'm Mike Portnoy, and I play the drums. (Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's
a lie, but I can dream, can't I? :)
Toaster:
>Hi y'all! Well, I've been gone for a few solid months now, and am
>*way* behind the times... Fisrt of all, I sent off my money for the
>Ytsejam CD. Whatever hapened to that? It never got mailed to me,
>and d I never got money back or email as to what happened or anything. Can
>anybody help me?
What Ytsejam CD are you referring to? If it's Acoustic Dreams, then,
it's not due to start mailing until September 30th, this Friday. Mike
Bahr isn't a con artist by any stretch of the imagination, demi-god
maybe. :)
If you don't get the CD by end of October, then start worrying.
>One more thing. An ACOS tour? WIll they come to Philly this time? I hope so,
>because I didn't get to see them on theAwake tour :(.
Nope, it's more of an EP like _Live at the Marquee_.
Ben Laussade:
>I need (not want, NEED!!) the early version of ACoS/DoE/whatever.
>If anybody is willing to copy it for me, I'll send a blank tape.
It's on the _Subconscious_ CD compiled by Mike Bahr. Check with me or
Trey Allen for the list of dub sites.
>I wouldn't mind a copy of WDADU either.
Telnet to cdnow.com or cdeurope.com and buy the CD.
Fernando Ma:
>I was wondering if anyone out there knows of any DT posters I could get.
Hate to say it, but ME TOO! :)
Maybe we can put pressure for a poster as an item during the next tour
along with the ball caps and shirts.
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:20:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Abu Shams M. Ahmed" <mmahmed@mtu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: JP's sound
Message-ID: <199509271920.PAA04892@colossus.csl.mtu.edu>
hi again,
I got a digitech RP1 and i was wondering if someone could help me to get
something close to JP's sound ( both rhythm and lead). I just love his sound
spacialy in I&W ( I was kinda pissed when he got that low B 'cuz I'm stil
trying hard to figure out the mystry of six strings ;^))
any help would be deeply ap'd
Minhaz the Martian
by the way Don Progresivi!!!! really good touch ...:)
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:42:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Pretend I'm Newsweek: Awake (up arrow) ACOS <-> Bafu Vai (Up)
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950927152305.21597B-100000@zaxxon.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Anyone know what I'm talking about, the CW arrows in every newsweek issue?
No? Oh well...
Bafu Vai: Ooooh, love that Don Progressivo story, especially as how the
Godfather is my favorite BOOK (the movie's OK, too), but i'm not
the one that's gonna give up my Ytsejam shirt
ACOS: It's taken me a week to figure this out, but here's what i came up
with....The songs I was *disappointed* with (ACOS, PS) are those for
which I had the highest expectaions....ACOS, knowing the DoE version,
and PS, having the orig. on my all-time fave list....
On the other hand, the other covers I had no expectations for, I love
AWAKE: This is a strange by-product of my 'new' ACOS antipathy
for me, IaW = best album ever made, but the new IaW style ACOS
suffers in comparison to the (dare i say) Awake style DoE version
As a result, I went back and listened to Awake for a long time
Saturday (I hadn't really listened to the WHOLE album in a while)
My estimate of its worth has risen greatly
Of course, you all probably don't care, but I figured If I
could waste another 5 minutes of your life, why not?
Partha "Cynical Fuck" Mukhopadhyay
P.S.> I got a 120 minute tape and am trying to make an ACOS + for myself,
with all the original version of the covers....what album do I find the
Dixie Dregs "Cruise Control" on? And how about the Elton John stuff?
thanks in advance, psm
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:14:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Schiller <aschille@sienahts.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Forming Progressive Metal Band
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.950927150955.9333B-100000@alpha.sienahts.edu>
Dear Jammers--
Been reading all the favorable opinions of ACoS. I agree - Derek does
have some shoes to fill, but is doing so quite well!
Anyone from Michigan looking to form a Progressive Metal Band? I play
guitar - and NO, I do not have Full Flannel Handicap! (Thanks Elliott Kim
for the use of that phrase.) Interested in jamming? Write me.
---Andy
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:33:42 -0700
From: laussade@enet.net (praxxix)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Hmmmm.....
Message-ID: <199509272233.PAA26304@maple.enet.net>
Would somebody mind telling me what " Acoustic Dreams" is?
Ben Laussade
Ben Laussade
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 18:55:55 -0400
From: James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 983
Message-ID: <Pine.DYN.3.91.950927185345.18485D-100000@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
I'd like to thank Jason Giles for making his ordering instructions for
the shirts so simple and brief... Mike Bahr - make a note!!! :) :)
Jay Peele
For info on INFERNO, E-mail: jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 20:03:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: ACoS reviews, other stuff...
Message-ID: <199509280003.UAA29105@rpc40.gl.umbc.edu>
Hi, all!
18:35 Every ass in the universe, past, present and future has
just been kicked by this riff!! It's even better than the
I think that just about sez it all!
However, I think it sounds not just a little, but EXACTLY like CiaW. Try
singing the CiaW verse here next time you listen to the song.
"Full House" in SDV? Just what I needed--another reason not to like him.
How can you be pissed that he didn't get keyboardist of the year? One normally
mus DO something to receive such an honor.
Bye for now.
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___ ___ ___ _ _ ___ ___ "...all that I feel is honor and spite.
| __| |_ _| | __| | V | | __| |_ | ...all I can do is to set it right."
|__ | | | | __| \ / | __| / / Kevin Moore, PMU
|___| |_| |___| V |___| |___|"Of all the stupid things I could have
Steve Zebrowski szebro1@gl.umbc.edu thought this was the worst..."
Joe Jackson, Hometown
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 12:43:08 +1200
From: euan@waikato.ac.nz (Euan Kilgour)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Metropolis II
Message-ID: <v01510101ac8f9ef69eb9@[130.217.82.139]>
I want to just go on record as saying that any initiative to have the band
put Metropolis II on the next album has my complete support. I would like
to see it produced by either the band themselves, or those two marvellous
gentlemen who made Awake into such an awesome album.
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 22:30:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: smaller jams
Message-ID: <9509280230.AA25213@junix.ju.edu>
You guys know I love DT as much as you all do but I have to admit that I
am glad to see the jam back down to 1 per day. I just dont have 45 mins
to sit and read each one of your posts. Especially when most of them say
the same thing...I love ACOS, or, I wish "please don't go" was still
there, or Acos is a masterpeice.
I agree w/ all of these comments but can we kind of refrain from sending
comments which have been stated more that 10 times already. Please no
flames...I am sure many others feel this way.
Also Jay Peele said
>I hope to see some of you FL area jammers at the Mike Portnoy clinic in
>Tampa (Oct. 14 and 15 I think).....
>
Can anyone confirm this? Also if its true, Jay, lets go down together.
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 00:00:55 -0400
From: hiw100@psu.edu (howard wiener)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT stuff
Message-ID: <199509280400.AAA52954@r02n06.cac.psu.edu>
Hey jammers, a few things:
1- Does anyone have a really good Majesty symbol that they can email me?
2- My theory on ACOS being done only twice live...they are refering to the
new version.
3- My commentary on Awake as a concept album (all songs included) is
temporarily on hold due to constant listening to ACOS.
4- I like the ACOS reviews in #981. They actually had some really
interesting stuff that has not already been mentioned.
5- I asked one of the voice teachers here at PSU to translate "Adesso che o
perso la vista, ci vedo meglio e di piu." According to Marshall Urban and
his Italian\English dictionary, it means, "now that the sight is lost, we
can see clearly and of more." That is direct from archaic Italian.
see yall later and yay for AD in just a few days,
Howard
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 21:12:15 PDT
From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: A New Thread!?--PLEASE READ!
Message-ID: <9509280412.AA01893@tengs1.teng>
> Dear Jammers,
>
> I know that ACoS has just come out, and that everyone is pumped! However,
> is it really necessary for each and every individual to give their
> feelings, thoughts, and ideas on the new CD. It isn't worth taking ten to
> fifteen minutes to read this list anymore. Everyone and their dog has now
> posted something about ACoS--please stop!
Then what is this forum for then? Who are you (or I) to judge who
should lurk and who should not? If you don't like the volume of
posts, then unsubscribe for a while (like Hairball), or just
perform massive deletions. The traffic has _already_ died down.
Since there are almost 1K of us now, accept the high bandwidth,
especially when a new release almost coincides with the new semester.
What are you complaining about anyway? You don't have to pay for
your account, it's funded by the taxpayer.
> What happened to this list? I remember the first post I read (over a year
> ago). It was so full of information and just plain interesting to read.
> I feel sorry for the newbies to the list because they think that this
> is it! It's not! There used to be interesting threads here--better than
> any other list around! Now, when I come in and see a new list, I'm not
> excited. I already know what it will be about--nothing special.
Really? Where were you all summer? It's _ACOS_, things are in flux
right now. The pendulum will swing back.
> I also remember some of the controversial posts, like this one, that we had
> in the past (remember SloppyJoe). Fuck, people were vicious. However, all
> of those flames, hate e-mail, and viscous slanders were fun and interesting
> to read.
And you think that the so-called "Greats" would rather see that than
read reviews of their work? If you want that type of thing, read
a.m.r.---- plenty of flamage there.
> So now I guess it is my turn to be one of those "traders" as everyone will
> obviously see it.
>
> There are no discussions here anymore; things seem to have died. All of
> the old list Jammers should know what I mean--remember when the list was
> full of debates, controversy, helpful hints, important information, and
> especially Dream Theater!
Please. You've only been here a year (not including the summer, right?)
and you dare include yourself with the "old-list Jammers?" This list
has been around a lot longer than you (or even I) have. Despite your
complaints, I like the list better _now_ (read: not the past month;
rather, the past year), even if it can be quite seasonal. "Dry" periods
used to be boring as shit. Better unsibscribe long before the new
album comes out.
> So here I stand!
More like the boy on the ACOS cover, I think !>\>
You'd really rather talk about this stuff? Aw, what the hell.
> Ryan
Oh yeah, did I mention that ACOS rulz!?
Zach
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 17:08:00 +0900
From: Masa Daigo <QZE13533@niftyserve.or.jp>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Burrn! Readers Poll
Message-ID: <199509280820.RAA18930@inetnif.niftyserve.or.jp>
Eddie wrote:
In a recent issue of the Japanese metal magazine Burrn (sp?) with
Iron Maiden's new front man and Steve Harris on the cover, they had a two
pager on DT and it mentioned that James LaBrie won best vocalist of the year,
John Myung bassist of the year, and Mike Portnoy drummer of the year. My
question is: what the heck? What about John Petrucci?! And Kevin Moore?!
John Petrucci was 4th. The champion of guitar player was Yngwie Malmsteen,
the second was John Sykes, and the third was Chris Impellitteri (sp?).
And Kevin Moore?... he won the best keyboard player. I wonder if he has
received the champion trophy through the management?
Abur!
Masa
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 95 12:40:30 BST
From: borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Michael Bahr
Message-ID: <9509281140.AA05501@carlisle.dcs.gla.ac.uk>
Where is Michael Bahr?
He owes me a CD (or $25). He has not responded to email.
I fingered him @indirect.com, and it says he hasn't logged on since Aug 20.
Any ideas? I need the CD (or the money back)!
Graham B.
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Date: 28 Sep 1995 08:54:08 GMT
From: "Steven Johnson, P" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 986
Message-ID: <199509281356.AA19569@interlock.amoco.com>
*** Reply to note of 09/28/95 05:31
Ryan Benedict:
Did you mean "traders" or "traitors"? I've been on the list for about a year
and I think talk about the album and reviews are not only expected when the CD
comes out (only a week ago), but the discussion IS very interesting, forcing
the issue to go and listen to what other Jammers have heard. A great example
of this is how many people hear Erotomania in ACOS. I never picked that up and
I still haven't, but it gave me something to think about and listen for. The
"ACOS--My View" surge will die down in a couple weeks and new threads will
start. Sorry you feel the way you do, but good initiative in starting up a new
thread.
LATER-
Steve
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"Lost in the sky/Clouds roll by and I roll with them
Arrows fly/Seas increase and then fall again." - Dream Theater
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 09:40:57 EDT
From: thunder@UFCC.UFL.EDU
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: How can i get the klist in seperate mails
Message-ID: <0099710E.FA45F560.10@UFCC.UFL.EDU>
How can i get this list in a format of seperate mail messages (ie. not
one big blob that i cant reply to).....thanx
Thunder
btw, Did Dream Theater ever come to Florida, and will they ever come to Florida?Ive been waiting for a DT show since 3 years ago.....DAMN, they never come here!
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Date: 28 Sep 1995 08:46:08 GMT
From: "Steven Johnson, P" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 986
Message-ID: <199509281346.AA23914@interlock.amoco.com>
*** Reply to note of 09/28/95 05:31
Jason Hartman felt the "buzzing snare was awful."
I have to disagree with you (I know people seem to be building arguments on
both sides of this fence). I like the real snare sound. It sets the drum apart
from the rest of his kit and is a nice break from the snare sounds hPortnoy
uses more often. And as someone else mentioned vs. the triggered snare, one
can really hear the subtleties and you can hear them better with this snare
than with the deeper snare. LATER-
Steve
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"Lost in the sky/Clouds roll by and I roll with them
Arrows fly/Seas increase and then fall again." - Dream Theater
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 10:20:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: screwed up text in last jam??
Message-ID: <199509281420.KAA15920@umbc9.umbc.edu>
Did anyone have a hard time reading digest #986?
I would read through it and then my terminal would freeze up part way
into it at the exact same part of the jam, everytime.
I forget who posted the message but it was something about
their idea of what the lyrics meant in Another World. I had to save the
messages by itself and then view it in a text editor. When I got to
the message that was screwing me up, I noticed it had a bunch of wierd
control codes in it. LIke everywhere the person used a " ' ", it would
put something like "/221". So the line might look like "I don/222t really
like it".
Any ideas on what they did wrong? I hope they can fix this "problem" so
I don't have to keep hanging up and calling back into the system and
reading the jam in a text editor from now on.
--
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* Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu *
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* You're fighting the weight of the world, *
* and no one can save you this time. *
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 08:32:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
To: DT List <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: DMB
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9509280856.A71412-0100000@acs4.bu.edu>
I have seen the Dave Matthews Band twice, and although I am a BIG fan of
what they do, I really don't think they give a "better" live show than
DT. Someone mentioned how DMB go on and on with lots of improvised jams
at their shows and stuff. Yeah, but it takes about one of those per show
to get boring -- and they seem to throw one in during every song!!! How
about the twenty minute into to Ants Marching? (people recognize it, so
play it to death!) I don't see what's so great about the violinist. The
drummer, on the other hand is AMAZING! He's got all kinds of chops, and
he plays really tastefully. Well, that's just my $.02 on that one.
Also, I really think "Seven" kicks "Pulp Fiction" in the ass!! Going to
see it again soon . . . .
Later!
Brian
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 07:47:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Dan R. Licon" <yama@ecst.csuchico.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: GO RYAN!
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950928073943.16405B-100000@guzzler.ecst.csuchico.edu>
I'm new to this list, but I have to say that I am behind you Ryan. I can
understand how this list can get out of control. We all love Dream
Theater and it's easy to get carried away.
For the sake of debate,I must admit that when I first heard DT I thought
they were another one of those "hair bands",i.e. "Another Day". Therefore
I didn't dig their music.
BOY WAS I WRONG!!!!!!
That being the only song I had heard by them, I was easily dumbfounded by
the pure power of _AWAKE_ and the rest of I&W.
This is what I hope they can accomplish with the new LP. I like it when
each time you listen to a song and you can find some new little place you
have never been.
O.K. that's it for my rambling. Later!
---YAMA---
"Machines have no conscinence"
(I suck at spelling.) -QUEENSRYCHE
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 10:15:54 -0500
From: Jason Breitweg <jbreitwe@lobelia.physics.wisc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Petrucci Poster?
Message-ID: <m0syKi1-0000WTC@donews.cts.com>
Hi All,
I was in this music store here in Madison the other day and saw this
HUGE poster of John Petrucci. It was an Ibanez ad that showed him on
stage rocking away and had a cool little insert of him holding his
guitar. Does anyone know where I can get one of these? Does anyone
have the number or address for Ibanez? Any help would be appreciated
greatly, thanx.
Jason
+-------Jason T. Breitweg--------------Internet: breitweg@amzeus.desy.de------+
| I can definitely say that Jason is NO SEXIST. He loves this girl and wants |
| her to experience metal, too. Metal DOES make your life |
+-------------= much richer and better. by Georg Greve =-------------+
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 11:38:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 986
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950928112800.4382C-100000@qix.rs.itd.umich.edu>
I'll leave this subject alone, because it fits... :s (a smiley who
doesn't know whether to be happy or sad)
Anyways, really enjoyed seeing a UNSUSCRIBE message immediately followed
by a SUSCRIBE message, and then seeing a guy named Ryan complaining about
the # of ACOS reviews immediately followed by a guy named, guess what,
RYAN with yet another ACOS review.....
My point? To the complainant Ryan, don't worry, friend, we'll get
over this phase....if you were suscribed to the Queensryche digest (SiD)
when the band was on tour, you got 12000 carbon copy posts doing concert
reviews each week....it has since recovered (sort of).... just as we'll get
back to discussing the lyrics, or whatever it is that turns you on.....
and oh, yeah, you're right, I'm just posting this for the hell of it....
Partha "Cynical Fuck" Mukhopadhyay
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 16:59:50 BST
From: "Andrew S. Moore" <AMOORE@riker.anglia.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Fates Warning
Message-ID: <4F740D6D58@riker.anglia.ac.uk>
Hi,
I'm interested in getting hold of the Fates Warning CD containing
'Ivory Gate of Dreams', but I'm not sure what the CD is called, or if
has been released over here in the UK.
Can any jammers help?
Thanks,
Andy
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Andrew S. Moore
Small Systems Support Assistant
Anglia Polytechnic University,
Cambridge, UK.
ASMoore@bridge.anglia.ac.uk
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'"Sieze the day", I heard him say,
Life will not always be this way,
Look around, hear the sounds,
Cherish your life while you're still around' -
Dream Theater, A Change Of Seasons,
Part III: Carpe Diem
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 12:36:59 -0400
From: mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: A New Thread!?--PLEASE READ!
Message-ID: <v01530502ac907ba566c5@[199.232.46.229]>
rbenedic@gac.edu (Ryan Benedict) wrote:
> I know that ACoS has just come out, and that everyone is
> pumped! However, is it really necessary for each and every
> individual to give their feelings, thoughts, and ideas on
> the new CD.
YES! What the hell is this list for anyway? Isn't it to talk about Dream
Theater? Here I am. Stranded in Boylston, MA with no Dream Theater fan
friends around. So I turn to the 'jam. Here I can voice my opinion or ask
questions or just talk about DT. Damn. A new album was just released and I
wanna talk about it. I want to hear other people's opinions. Let's discuss
it. Interpret it. Listen to it. There hasn't been so much DT content on the
'jam in a long time. If you didn't like the story of the drunk guy, skip
it! Wasn't there a warning at the beginning of it? If you're tired of ACOS
discussions, skip them too. One guy didn't even know about ACOS. Now he
does :). So, Ryan, if you don't like a topic, skip it. If this is the best
thread you can do, try harder.
No applogies if you read this and didn't like it :p.
Back to the 'jam.
--Marc Respass
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 12:36:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: JLaB improvisation
Message-ID: <199509281636.MAA01174@rpc40.gl.umbc.edu>
As much as I like James, I can't help but agree with Steve's comment in the
last 'Jam about this subject. It seems like he starts without thinking about
where he want's to finish. Personally, I think his harmonic-minor posturings
in "Perfect Strangers" are some of his best improvisations yet, but there is
other stuff out there that would best be forgotten. He's still the best male
rock singer out there today. A while back there was some discussion of what
the female equvalent of James LaBrie would be. Some people said Ann Wilson.
She's got the range, but not the technique. I think on the quiet stuff James
does a pretty good Tori, but as far as being an all-around singer I'd have to
say Pat Benatar. She has a truly great technical and emotional voice, and I
think she would be the most fitting female counterpart to James.
Has it struck anyone in listening to ACoS that all these Chritian themes and
New Testament allusions are coming from our Jewish friend Mike Portnoy? :)
When someone is admittedly "not religious" I think it's a beautiful thing
that he can conceptualize these ideas.
Concerning the "mercy/massive fuck" thing, someone a few 'Jams ago said that
he interpreted it as "I don't need your mercy, <you> fuck..." I always
thought that it was "I don't need your mercy fuck...", a mercy fuck being,
how shall we say, one more for the road or for old times' sake before we
part. Kind of like a good-bye kiss after a breakup--"we've already broken
up, but let's kiss anyway so you won't feel so bad." As if that helps.
Anyway, that's it for now. I'm gonna go to my girlfriend's house later and
get me a "massive fuck!" :)
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___ ___ ___ _ _ ___ ___ "...all that I feel is honor and spite.
| __| |_ _| | __| | V | | __| |_ | ...all I can do is to set it right."
|__ | | | | __| \ / | __| / / Kevin Moore, PMU
|___| |_| |___| V |___| |___|"Of all the stupid things I could have
Steve Zebrowski szebro1@gl.umbc.edu thought this was the worst..."
Joe Jackson, Hometown
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