YTSEJAM Digest 939
Today's Topics:
1) I CUT MY HAIR OFF! (NDTC)
by Erotomania@aol.com
2) Bad traders
by John Mastin <jmastin@motown.ge.com>
3) A Change of Seasons CD Cover
by "David Ernest Desalvo" <desald@rpi.edu>
4) Re: Damn The Machine?
by Tilman Kuendgen <tiku@rz.uni-sb.de>
5) Hello all from a new Jammer...
by Learng2Liv@aol.com
6) Derek in Brasil
by Jose Marcel Berto de Souza <master@fee.unicamp.br>
7) Actual Dream Theater stuff
by Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
8) RE: Illuvitar
by Greg Picklesimer <gregp@mudd.ncrmicro.ncr.com>
9) JP in SF Chronicle
by Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu>
10) GFTPM Review of "ACoS" EP
by craig_caldwell@tds.com (S. Craig Caldwell)
11) ACOS Japanese Release...
by "DR. TEETH" <GLYDE@VAX1.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
12) Re: JP in SF Chronicle
by Shaft <polzin@glibm25.cen.uiuc.edu>
13) Re: a funny story
by BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.colorado.edu>
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 12:58:03 -0400
From: Erotomania@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: I CUT MY HAIR OFF! (NDTC)
Message-ID: <950901125801_8692597@mail06.mail.aol.com>
(Acronym central in the subject field, eh?!
)Is NDTC a universal acronym? Someone used it once,
and I thought it was better than typing out No DT Content.
(if not, can we make it universal?)
>Johnny, member of the YLHB (Ytsejam Long-Haired Brotherhood)
Regarding the YLHB -
I am no longer eligible to be a member! =) That's right, gang -
I got it chopped off! :(
Yesterday, I get a phone call from an NBC affiliate in Lancaster, PA.
(For those of you not from the east coast, it's basically a dinky hick
town with a lot of Amish/Pennsylvania Dutch people up there.)
Anyway, I'd sent this guy a resume about a relief tech position.
The phone rings at 11:00am, and I hear the machine in the other
room go off. I JUMPED out of bed when I heard the guy's name,
played the message back, and, within 2 minutes, I had an interview
set up for 9/5 @ 11am.
Well, considering that I'm fresh out of college, and need a job BADLY -
mind you, I'm not sure what this pays, but, it's full time!; so, I did it.
It's gone. (Sigh)
However, it would make me feel better if you all still refered to me as
Hairball...then again, only people who've gotten checks from me know
my real name. =)
My band is gonna shit a collective brick. And so will my now ex-g/f, who
called at 3am asking me to get back together...haha. This oughta keep
her away from me! =)
Sorry to waste space, but, I had to tell someone!
-Hairball, still an audio type/musician; just minus the hair. =(
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 13:31:18 -0400
From: John Mastin <jmastin@motown.ge.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Bad traders
Message-ID: <199509011731.NAA21703@cybertron.MOTOWN.GE.COM>
Pat Daugherty wrote:
> Regardless of their many excuses the bad traders I have experienced are
> Al Balkiewicz and Jermey Haynes.
>
Wait a minute. I know Jeremy Haynes screwed over a few peoeple but wasn't
Al Balkiewicz involved in a car accident and hospitalized a while back?
Has anyone heard from Brian Cox? I ordered a few boots from him and he
disappeared. No email from him. No boots either.
What gives?
Johnny
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 13:57:19 -0400
From: "David Ernest Desalvo" <desald@rpi.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: A Change of Seasons CD Cover
Message-ID: <9509011357.ZM31097@sage4d.its.rpi.edu>
For those of you who have seen the CD for ACOS,
what is the significance of the date on the claender on the back cover??
I may be missing something obvious but the seasons don't change on Nov 18.
(If I remember correctly, that's the date shown)
Later
Dave
desald@rpi.edu
PS The CD sounded unbelievable. Production much like I&W. Which makes sense
since they worked with the same people (so the liner says)
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 16:56:31 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Tilman Kuendgen <tiku@rz.uni-sb.de>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Damn The Machine?
Message-ID: <199509011456.QAA25172@sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de>
Ken asked:
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Hi all!
For the past year or so, I've been trying to find Damn the Machine's
album, but it doesn't seem to be available here in Norway. A friend
of mine is going to Washington D.C. in a few weeks, and he's going to
buy a copy of the album if he could find it. I was wondering if someone
in the
D.C. area could tell me where he could find the CD.
I'm also interested in any information about the band. The only thing
I've heard is that they made one album and then broke up.
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A month ago I got this info from a guy when I asked in the usenet about
the actual status of DTM:
What a coincidence, I've spent months looking for info on Damn The
Machine, and then this morning I actually found something out, so I can
actually tell you about it. Anyway, apparently the original line-up for
Damn The Machine, minus the singer, are in a new band called Mumbo's
Brain. I'm not sure if they're getting another vocalist in, or if one
of
the band are gonna do it, or what the story is there. If I find out
more
I'll let you know.
Hope I could help!
If you don't succeed in getting the album, lemme know!
Tilman.
tiku@stud.uni-sb.de
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 14:00:16 -0400
From: Learng2Liv@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Hello all from a new Jammer...
Message-ID: <950901140015_89015260@mail04.mail.aol.com>
Hope this doesn't sound all that corny, but I assure you, Im into DT
enough to be here, so I suppose that offsets the nothing I have to say.
I live in the SF area. I hooked up with a guy on AOL that sent me a
Majesty CD, and once I remember his adress Ill pass along the information to
all of you. As far as Im concerned, this guy is for real, becasue I have
recieved some stuff including 3 cds.
If Im doing something wrong having to do with the format of this
newsgroup, please email me and set me straight. Learng2Liv@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 13:42:46 -0300
From: Jose Marcel Berto de Souza <master@fee.unicamp.br>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Derek in Brasil
Message-ID: <199508311642.NAA01270@patinhas.fee.unicamp.br>
Tomorrow (09/02/95), there will be the brasilian version of Monsters Of Rock, and one of the stars is Alice Cooper.
The keyboardist will be Derek!!!!!!!!
i'm really excited to see the DT keyboardist.
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 11:34:19 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: durnik@indirect.com
Subject: Actual Dream Theater stuff
Message-ID: <199509011834.LAA24255@bud.indirect.com>
It's funny the way things turn out when we're not paying
attention to them. I've posted nonstop on CDs, CD-related material, my
general observations, etc, while not actively participating in a lot of
the arguments at hand.
I figure it's high time I posted some of my thoughts on DT for
comment, and I would like commentary from anyone interested to post their
replies to the list...
You see, in a position like mine, for some strange reason (which
is even stranger when you consider what a goof-off I am in real life) a
lot of Jammers and alt.music.*ers mail _me_ when they have a question
about something, or at times, mail _me_ when there's an argument going on
that I haven't jumped in on, to get my take on it. Most fascinating is
that half the time I don't know the answer myself. Not that I mind the
mail. It's nice to be liked in cyberspace (oooh I hate that word tho). I
am then put into the interesting position that since people usually
listen at least passively to what I say, I don't want to destroy the
coniguity of a thread or make a person's (totally valid) opinion seem
"wrong" _just because_ I disagree. This isn't an ego thing; it was
brought to my attention by another Jammer as I didn't even realize it
myself. So with that in mind, I hope nobody will hold back a biting,
hard, evil response to my comments on the perception that the rest of the
Jam will take sides against them. :)
* My top 5 ESSENTIAL DREAM THEATER moments *
1. The end jam on Innocence Faded. Takes an otherwise average song and
makes it the very best. There is no other song currently out that surges
my blood and pumps my adrenaline like the end jam on IF.
2. "By nature's inflexible grace, I'm learning to liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
iiiiiiive......." (bass notes follow). This entire part of the song LTL,
concluding with the passage above, is of an intensity level to be awed.
3. "I sit down with my son, and with him we watch the crimson sunset...
(Gather ye rosebuds while ye may....)" This part of A Change of Seasons
is awe-inspiring, as is the whole opening section, hell, the whole song.
but this final passage is so appropriate, so perfect, so touching, and
the backup vocals make it even more insistent.
4. "Seen my diary on the newsstand, seems we've lost the truth to
quicksand, it's a shame no one is praying, cause these voices in my head
keep saying...." The high point of the AMBI trilogy. The backup harmony
is beautiful, and this passage has a person instinctively singing along
even if they don't realize it. I sat down and learned the vocal harmony
part, and it sounds _so cool_ to sing the high part while the low part
dominates on the album, and to hit the harmony just right.
5. "Pull me under, pull me under, pull me under I'm not afraid. Living my
life too much in the sun, only until your will is DONE!!!" the final
chorus. A lot of times we forget the popular PMU, which is even more odd
since it's the song that got 90% of us into Dream Theater. The chorus of
PMU is what makes it shine. The final chorus is the best. Listen to the
ALBUM VERSION (the non-harmonized live version don't cut it) again and
re-capture the awe and wonder at this musical masterpiece.
There are other parts that I like as well, but those are the most
vital, the most thrilling to me. I'm interested to see what people think
of these choices, not simply to see a cavalcade of LISTS, but to see WHY
people love or hate MY choices and WHY they like theirs. It just may be
that there's a mind-bendingly great passage that I haven't given due
course to.
More on ACOS... when you guys get this album, you're gonna
shit... it just rules, beginning to end. ACOS has grown on me and it's
NOT getting old and boring... every time I listen to it I find something
new. It's much in the style of Images & Words musically and vocally,
which was fine by me since I liked both IAW and Awake, but those who
shunned Awake will be reborn anew. Also, there is the most AWESOME
riff/lick/basic theme in ACOS that gets played acoustically first, then
electrically, that sounds for all the world like they pulled it out of
an Ultima or Myst soundtrack. See if you can spot this lick. It was
particularly impacted on me since I'm reading the Jordan "Wheel of Time"
series now and my mind is attuned to fantasy/D&D.
Magic... can't live with it, can't live without it. I'm working
on a Dream Theater expansion, with such Summon Legends as the Miracle and
The Sleeper, and enchantments like Glass Moon. :) That'd be cool...
"Don't Look Past Me" was the most promising of DT's earlier
musical experiments, if you ask me, if a bit cheesecakey. King's X would
have been proud, though.
When will we get another GALACTIC COWBOYS album??
I can't wait to hear DT's next summer album, since Showdown was
interesting enough....
The best movies out right _now_ are Waterworld, Desperado, Under
Siege II, and Mortal Kombat. The best movie so far this year is
Braveheart. The best animation so far is Pocahontas. The worst movie so
far is the Jerky Boys. (what a sad excuse for a movie! the tapes were
more than enough of this idiotic pair, and were funny to boot!)
Mike Bahr, durnik@indirect.com
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 95 15:56:03 MDT
From: Greg Picklesimer <gregp@mudd.ncrmicro.ncr.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: RE: Illuvitar
Message-ID: <199509012154.PAA15118@Symbios.COM>
I second this recommendation for Illuvitar. The music reminds me
of the Marillion or Genesis(what they should be, not what they
are now), but with some outstanding guitar work. Unfortunately,
I don't know about any new releases., but agree that it's worth
a listen.
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Greg Picklesimer (greg.picklesimer@symbios.com)
Symbios Logic Inc Fax: (719)573-3824
1635 Aeroplaza Dr. Colorado Springs CO 80916 Phone:(719)573-3497
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 16:05:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: JP in SF Chronicle
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9509011647.A11577-0100000@uclink.berkeley.edu>
I just wanted to let everybody know there's some guy called John Petrucci
living in San Francisco. Apparently, he got burned up about something in
the Chronicle editorial section and sent in a response. Either that, or
it was a Petrucci fan who didn't want to give his name away.
I don't know if anybody else cares, but I haven't run into anybody with
the same name as any of DT's members.
Younis Hilal---------------------------------------yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 19:42:15 -0500
From: craig_caldwell@tds.com (S. Craig Caldwell)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: GFTPM Review of "ACoS" EP
Message-ID: <v01510101ac6d53f1053b@[165.159.121.21]>
All -
I was somewhat surprised when I got the latest copy of "Guitar For The
Practicing Musician" to see a review of the new DT EP "A Change of
Seasons."(October 1995 issue - the one with the two members of Red Hot
Chili Peppers kissing on the front....from them that DOESN'T surprise me!!!
<g>).
I was surprised because, #1) it's not out yet, and #2) technically, "ACoS"
is being released as an "EP," and I've never seen an EP reviewed in such a
magazine before.
While I'm thinking of it, one thing of note: "Awake" was released on
East-West records (division of Atco), while the article lists "ACoS" as
being released on Elektra.....is "A Change of Seasons" also "A Change of
Labels??" Hmmmm....
Anyway, for those of you who might be interested, following is the entire
text of the review, reprinted without permission of GFTPM (Which, BTW, is
THE best Guitar-oriented magazine in print, IMHO). [My comments are in
these brackets].
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[Taken from October 1995 "Guitar For The Practicing Musician"]
DREAM THEATER - A Change of Seasons (Elektra)
PERFOMANCE: From a serious epic to light cover tunes
HOT SPOTS: "A Change Of Seasons," "Funeral For A Friend,"
"Achilles Last Stand."
BOTTOM LINE: The two faces of Dream Theater revealed.
Here's something different from Dream Theater: their first large-scale
epic, "A Change of Seasons," plus a whole batch of groovy cover tunes. The
title cut kicks off with lilting, baritone-sounding arpeggios that segue
into a thrashy overture with lots of DT trademarks: odd-meter rhythms,
dark, minor-flavored passages, and the vicious power riffing of John
Petrucci. Stylistically, this isn't much of a departure from DT's standard
fare--just a lot longer.
The musicianship of Petrucci and his bandmates is stellar as usual (there's
one stunning instrumental riff in the middle that delightfully blasts off
into the chromatic ozone), though if you weren't a fan before, this
probably won't convert you. Really, "A Change Of Seasons" is a love letter
to the band's loyal cult of fans, in effect thanking them for the years of
support. No doubt, the Theaterheads will go gaga for this epic, much the
same way Rush fans went berserk over the side-long "Hemispheres" back in
1978.
The cover tracks, on the other hand, show a lighter side of the band. Gone
are the minor-key shadings and the overly dramatic vocal posturings of
singer Jamie [The author's typo, not mine] LaBrie; instead, you'll hear
faithful covers of such tracks as Elton John's "Funeral For A Friend/Love
Lies Bleeding" and Deep Purple's "Perfect Strangers," in which Petrucci
absolutely _KILLS_ during his solo. Equally exciting is their take on
Zeppelin's "The Rover" and "Achilles Last Stand," which has another
barnburning guitar break.
[ It seems like the author of this article LOVES Petrucci, but doesn't care
too much for LaBrie...which means that I only HALFway agree with him.
<grin> ]
Less successful is the medley of "Carry On Wayward Son," "Bohemian
Rhapsody," Journey's "Loving, Touching, Squeezing" (now you know why the
singer sounds like he does), The Dixie Dregs' "Cruise Control," and
Genesis' "Turn It On Again." These latter performances are perfectly fine
and you can see why they would go over well in concert, but as small
snippets of famous tunes they don't seem to have any purpose in a
pre-recorded format. The full-length Purple and Zeppelin tracks work far
better.
Ultimately, no matter how you slice it, this Dream Theater disc is simply a
gift to their existing fans. And when you hear the band playing simpler,
more straightforward cover material so successfully, you'll realize that
it's food for thought, too. Check it out and feed your head. --- Pete
Prown
[From this last paragraph, I think Pete liked the disc as a whole. I DON'T
think he realizes that this is supposed to be an "ACoS" _EP_ and that the
covers are basically just bonus songs]
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Hope you all found that to be interesting!!!!
Later....I'm BEACH-BOUND for the week!!!!!
Craig
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S. Craig Caldwell |"Every day sends future to past
Trident Data Systems | Every breath leaves me one less to my last."
Fairfax, VA | - John Petrucci
<craig_caldwell@tds.com> | ("Pull Me Under" - Dream Theater)
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Date: Fri, 01 Sep 1995 21:01:40 -0600 (CST)
From: "DR. TEETH" <GLYDE@VAX1.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
To: Ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: ACOS Japanese Release...
Message-ID: <01HURXGODYCY003Y1Z@VAX1.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
Again, I'd appreciate it if I could get some help in obtaining the upcoming
Japanese release of A Change of Season.
I've heard the arguement that this is unethical because it will keep The
Theater from touring the U.S. but hey! The news is out! They're not going to
tour for this release. I'm sure it could be said that SOMEHOW I'm hurting the
future U.S. touring possiblities, but this is SUCH a minute little drop in the
bucket that I can live with the guilt. ;) I mean, sure you can have you
opinion, but I have mine. And that's that.
Okay, enough about politics!!! (I can't stand the subject, personally.) I'm
just here to beg for some help finding that Japanese release, so if you can
help, please e-mail me directly. If there's enough demand (as I am expecting
there to be) then post it if you wish.
Thanks again!
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 22:17:58 -0500 (CDT)
From: Shaft <polzin@glibm25.cen.uiuc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: JP in SF Chronicle
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.950901221721.7476A-100000@glibm25.cen.uiuc.edu>
Actually this reminded me of something. There was a John Myung on my
floor last year. Just thought i would let you know.
Ed
On Fri, 1 Sep 1995, Younis Youssef Hilal wrote:
> I just wanted to let everybody know there's some guy called John Petrucci
> living in San Francisco. Apparently, he got burned up about something in
> the Chronicle editorial section and sent in a response. Either that, or
> it was a Petrucci fan who didn't want to give his name away.
> I don't know if anybody else cares, but I haven't run into anybody with
> the same name as any of DT's members.
>
> Younis Hilal---------------------------------------yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu
>
>
>
>
Ed Polzin
WWW: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~polzin/
polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu
polzin@ripco.com
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 23:18:17 -0600 (MDT)
From: BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.colorado.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: a funny story
Message-ID: <199509020518.XAA14078@ucsu.colorado.edu>
When I got Awake, listening to it the first time through, I got to
Innocence Faded, and miner along with my friend's reactions was "This
sounds kind of Bon Jovi-ish. That was, of course, before the jamming
outro. I could understand the naive statement; thank god I've seen
my wrongdoing (BTW, I love the song now!)
-Adam
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