YTSEJAM Digest 1392
Today's Topics:
1) Re: DT'S NEW PRODUCER!!!!
by marcr@tiac.net (Marc Respass)
2) blah, blah, blah (was: What is a musician?)
by marcr@tiac.net (Marc Respass)
3) Ytsecon III Attendees List
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
4) Re: Anagramz & Jam Master Jay
by brian.kirk@USVGI.mail.abb.com
5) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/01/96 - 19:36:07" <response@ibmmail.com>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1391
by babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia)
7) Re: NetC@rd
by borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
8) Mike's postcard
by rtgood@students.wisc.edu (Ryan Thomas Good)
9) Clinics and keyboards. . .
by Andrew <acos0206@uriacc.uri.edu>
10) Re: Metropolis prt: 1 Bass solo...
by Bryce Bukowsky <c664000@showme.missouri.edu>
11) As much as I hate to say this...
by Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
12) sorry...
by Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
13) Musicians.
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
14) YTSEJAM digest 1391
by "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1390
by Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net>
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 13:15:29 -0500
From: marcr@tiac.net (Marc Respass)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: DT'S NEW PRODUCER!!!!
Message-ID: <v01530502ad85c3259fa6@[206.119.183.235]>
> I can unofficially announce that Mr. Peter Collins (Rush and
> Queensryche) will produce the next DT album!!!! Great! I
> really like his work on Empire (QR), Hold your Fire, Power
> windows and Counterparts (Rush).
I agree. I love those Rush albums. Can't wait for new DT though :).
--Marc R
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 13:15:32 -0500
From: marcr@tiac.net (Marc Respass)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: blah, blah, blah (was: What is a musician?)
Message-ID: <v01530503ad85c6024bf1@[206.119.183.235]>
> Requirements
Shiyah!
> 1. HAVE THE DRIVE.
Agreed. You won't become a musician if you don't make yourself practice.
> 2. LEARN THE LANGUAGE. This includes knowing what all the
> dots, lines,
And other smudge marks on a piece of paper mean. I have to disagree here.
Not knowing how to read does not disqualify you from being a musician.
That's like saying an illiterate Englishman is not an Englishman because he
can only speak English not read it (or any other nationality of course).
Lots of musicians can't/couldn't read. Hendrix may be the most popular
non-reader.
However, I am a huge advocate of learning to read. You should do it for
yourself for the same reasons that you can read words - it opens doors that
are otherwise closed and can make your life (as a musician) much easier.
Plus, it puts an end to that 14th century notation - tab ;).
> 3. KNOW WHAT THE COMBINATIONS OF THE AFOREMENTIONED DOTS,
> LINES, AND SYMBOLS MEAN IN CONTEXT. Some say that theory
> doesn't make music fun anymore. I beg to differ.
I agree with the definition of the "requirement" but I don't think it
relates to the requirment. You can know how chords move and resolve and how
they sound and what to play without being able to read.
> 4. HAVE THE EAR.
Can't argue with that :)
> 5. BE FAMILIAR WITH MANY GENRES OF MUSIC.
Well. I read an interview with a 24 year old bassist who just won principal
bass in the LA Symphony (or some big symphone pulling better than
65000/year). He said that he listens to a lot of music but plays classical.
Listen, sure, but there's no requirement to be able to play lots of styles
nor any requirement to like them. If you play jazz, you don't have to play
rock but you might enjoy it sometimes.
> 6. TAKE INITIATIVE TO CREATE. Being a musician means much
> more than performing. Applying your abilities to
> compositions can only sharpen your skills.
Well, yes but that doesn't make anyone who only performs any less of a
musician. Give the musicians union a call and ask them what they think of
that one :).
> 7. LEARN MANY INSTRUMENTS (IF POSSIBLE.)
Do not do this!! Maybe some piano if you don't play a chordal (guitar)
instrument, otherwise, it can seriously distract you from your primary
instrument. The only reason to learn piano is to get some harmony going
that you can't get if you play a melodic instrument. But too much time
spent learning other instruments leads you to mediocre-at-many
excellent-at-none. If you play bass - play bass. You aren't going to get a
gig by saying that you can also play some piano if you're auditioning on
bass.
Of course, if you are a maniac and have 10 hours/day to practice, a couple
hours spent on another instrument will be good. My experience is that I
have to take from my primary instrument to give to my secondary which
doesn't help if you still can't play that run in Mozart's 40th but you can
play your piano excercises.
> 8. KNOWLEDGE, KNOWLEDGE, KNOWLEDGE! Learn about music.
> Learn about composers/songwriters, history (anyone calling
> themselves a musician should be able to name the major eras
> of Western Art Music,)
Blah, blah, blah. So you don't know History of Western Music. Doesn't make
you less of a musician. Knowledge is a great thing. If you only want to
play death metal, learning theory is not going to hurt you at all. Not
knowing the major eras of western art music however does not disqualify
you. Please.
> copyright and licensing information, etc.
That's _business_ of music. Has nothing to do with being a musician. Being
a musician who makes money from his music maybe. Getting paid, perhaps. But
not knowing doesn't make you less of a musician.
> Music Major (Recording Technology Emphasis)
Deb, I'm glad to hear that there's a potential engineer with a musician's
skills out there :)
--Marc Respass (marcr@tiac.net)
Come visit the Joel Rivard Group
[even though Joel's reading needs some work]
home page at
http://www.tiac.net/users/marcr/
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 13:15:31 -0500 (EST)
From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>, Metropolis <metropolis@arastar.com>
Cc: Jeff Chew <jc309@columbia.edu>
Subject: Ytsecon III Attendees List
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9604011303.A145-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
YtseCon III Attendees List
Name <e-mail address> D/P + x D/P = I'm definite/possible and my x
friends are definite/possible. Please check your name, address, and number
of people attending for accuracy. Report problems to me, Chris Merlo, at
d-man@dreamt.org or cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu.
Also, please remember that I'm not in charge of the Ytsecon. I'm just
collecting names. Jeff Chew (jc309@columbia.edu) is the man to ask
administrative stuff (like, "When is the Con? Where will it be held?").
Allen, Trey <tallen@junix.ju.edu> D + 1P
Augustover, Heath <augie@unix.asb.com> D + ??
Backof, Michael <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu> D + 0
Barker, Rob <rbarker@epix.net> D + 0
Chew, Jeff <jc309@columbia.edu> D + ??
Cleary, Corey <clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu> D + 0
Goldenberg, Rachel <wisha@li.net> P + 1P
Inverso, Ryan <rinverso@cosi.stockton.edu> D + 6P
Kirk, Brian <bkirk@blkbox.com> D + 0
Kita Woo <kitawoo@aol.com> P + 1P
Lutz, James <jlutz@hartford.edu> P + 4P
Merlo, Chris <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu> D + 2P Rides
Miller, Andrew <ytsejam@udel.edu> P + 4P
Moury, Jon <jmoury@wam.umd.edu> P + 0
Olson, Jeffrey <sinista@netexpress.net> D + 3P
Ostrich, Mike <syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu> D + 0 Rides Sleep
Plotkin, David <dhplotki@students.wisc.edu> D + 1D
Rios, Kevin <krios@suffolk.lib.ny.us> D + 0
Skadberg, Ryan <skadz@bluesky.net> D + 2P
Slang, Greg <slang@internexus.net> D + 2D
YoSammity <yosammity@aol.com> P + 1P
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Sleep: Volunteers for places for Jammers to crash.
Contact these people separately.
Last updated April 1st
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 13:16:05 -0500
From: brian.kirk@USVGI.mail.abb.com
To: " - (052)ytsejam(a)ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Anagramz & Jam Master Jay
Message-ID: <0010200002374274000002*@MHS>
> From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Anagramz & Jam Master Jay
> That instant list of Ernesto's names wasn't the first time you had ever
> posted anagrams. It WAS the first time you mentioned the anagram
> generator.
>
> (required smiley burned alive)
>
Hey Bafu, you been watchin' X-files?
"Briiaaaan!" - Joe, _Wings_
"Kiiirrrrk!" - Khan, _Wrath of Khan_
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Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 13:34:49 EST
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To: ytsejam@ax.com
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Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 13:53:17 -0500 (EST)
From: babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1391
Message-ID: <v01510100ad858fd8fcd7@[137.238.26.12]>
and have just battled my way through 46 jams
Ouch, a fate worse than death. Let me tell you the DELETE key does wonders
for your psyche and your eyes!
-BABS
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 20:02:52 +0100
From: borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: NetC@rd
Message-ID: <9604011902.AA08258@bleaker.dcs.gla.ac.uk>
Personal postcard from Dream Theater?
> From: mikep@eastwest.com
eastwest.com is a *bookshop*, for God's sake . . .
Graham B.
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 13:01:06 -0600
From: rtgood@students.wisc.edu (Ryan Thomas Good)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mike's postcard
Message-ID: <199604011901.NAA21534@audumla.students.wisc.edu>
Jammers-
Did you all check out the postcard Mike sent us? Very cool, make
sure you visit http://WWW.WOC.NL/ and view the card. Enter the ytsejam
address and 6320 in the personal ID space, and check it out.
QUESTION: Does Dream Theater's videos (like PMU, Lie, and so on)
get played anywhere else other than the USA? I know Europe plays them, but
would it be worth the time and effort of Dream Theater and EastWest (or
whoever) to make videos for the next Dream Theater CD?? I don't know if the
videos (if they were to be made) would ever see the light of day here in the
USA (unless the MTV2 thing ever happens, which I doubt).
Just starting some thought provoking conversation......
My answer is NO. I don't know if it would benefit Dream Theater as
much as it may set them back. *IF* there are places OTHER than the USA that
played the videos enough for people to see them, than I'd say YES, but how
many stations (TV and cable, etc...) worldwide CAN or DO play Dream Theater
videos?? I know everyone on the Jam would want to see more videos, but the
thing is this: there's nowhere to see them. What do you all think????
(just questions to spark conversation, not a fire)
_____________________________________________
"We can hope for the future, but there might not be one"
_____________________________________________
name - Ryan T. Good
e-mail - rtgood@students.wisc.edu
phone - 1-(608)-264-2268
what - Madison Student Radio
who - Music Staff (Music Stapher)
which kind - Progressive Rock/Heavy Metal
why - why not?
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 11:08:46 -0800
From: Andrew <acos0206@uriacc.uri.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Clinics and keyboards. . .
Message-ID: <199604011908.LAA03757@mindcrime.ax.com>
>Then John came; he explained some exercises and played along with a sequencer,
>doing some really beautiful solos, including the Etude from Chopin, that
>really took my breath away! (I play the piano, so.... how does he do that?!)
Was it the Revolutionary Etude? If it was, then I'm astounded by Petrucci's
speed, accuracy, and general excellency. (I play piano too, so pretty much
ANY Chopin he plays on guitar is mind boggling.)
>Then John played along with another new song, that was very different from
Raise
>the Knife. It was about 6 minutes long, but it was quite ear-friendly, easy to
>listen to, with a catchy chorus that said something like "Where are you going";
>I think it would be quite a radio-friendly tune, also because it's not as
>complicated as most of DT's song. I liked that very much.
Not complicated?!?!!? Is DT trying to become less progressive with each new
album?!?
>The only thing about those two new songs, the keyboards were very low and
>sometimes I didn't even hear them; and absolutely no key solos.
No keyboard solos in DT is like a sandwich without the bread. . .I'm
becoming a little skeptical here. . .
>Was it connected with the DAT mixing, or was it that Derek wants to remain in
>the mix? Someone told me that yesterday John (or Mike?) said that the main
>difference between Kevin and Derek was that Derek liked to play more
>accompaniment parts rather than soloing.
>I hope this isn't true, because I play keyboards, and of course I like hearing
>keyboards! Anyone who has heard some new demos know more?
All I know is: In an article with Derek, he said Petrucci pushes him, and
told him NOT to lay back, like when he played in Alice Cooper and stuff.
So, Petrucci better kick his ass and get him to stand out!!!!!!!!!!
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 13:21:09 -0600 (CST)
From: Bryce Bukowsky <c664000@showme.missouri.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Metropolis prt: 1 Bass solo...
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.960401131136.106206A-100000@gold.missouri.edu>
Hi all,
I a posting in regard to the two hand tapping technique in
Metropolis part 1. What JM is doing is as follows(to what I figured out):
Start on the "F" on the "A" string. Play the F w/ your right
hand(Right hand should be just below left). Then hammer on "C" on the
"D" string w/ your ring finger of your left hand and hammer directly on
"D" on the "D" string w/ your index of your right hand after that. Then
play the "F" again and hammer on the "C" again, and then hammer on "G" on
the "G" string w/ your index finger of your right hand. Then just repeat
the pattern by using the following progression: Go up a half step, up a
whole step, and finally up a whole step again.
Sorry if that was hard to follow. It is pretty hard to explain.
Use the fingers I told you. You may want to try other fingers for some
of the hammers, but those work best for me. If you have any more
questions, or would like tab instead, feel free to E-mail me.
Thank you,
Bryce Bukowsky
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 13:33:49 -0600 (CST)
From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
To: ThE NuGgeTjAm <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: As much as I hate to say this...
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.960401132526.20595A-100000@indy15.gclab.missouri.edu>
Ok people, I'm sure we all saw that Digital Postcard from "MP /
mikep@eastwest.com" and I'm just as sure that we all fired up our Web
browsers in a frothing frenzy, and hit that site hard to see it. And
I'm sure that right now, there are 500 Electronic Letters in transit to
"mikep@eastwest.com" But have any of you concidered how odd it is that
this *just*happened* to be mail to the 'jam on April 1st!?
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to think that Mike is thinking of us and
reading the 'jams and all, but at the same time I have this image of
BafuVai sitting in a dark room in front of his computer, laughing his
fool head off knowing that we all took the bait.
If this is authentic, then Mike is reading the 'jam, and Mike: my
sincerest appologies.
If this is a prank, I'd like to shake the perpetrater's hand, because it
was damn good. If you just would have told up all to shut up about that
snare sound... but I digress, expecting us to shut up would be too
self-indulgent.
Later all.
h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 /
| Pat Griffin Reality2 Design |
| c675311@showme.missouri.edu c675311@cclabs.missouri.edu |
h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 /
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 13:39:35 -0600 (CST)
From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
To: ThE NuGgeTjAm <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: sorry...
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.960401133852.20728A-100000@indy15.gclab.missouri.edu>
Sorry to spoil your fun, but eastwest.com is a BOOKSTORE, not the record
company.
h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 /
| Pat Griffin Reality2 Design |
| c675311@showme.missouri.edu c675311@cclabs.missouri.edu |
h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 /
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 12:41:58 -0700
From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Musicians.
Message-ID: <199604011941.MAA03314@maple.enet.net>
>1. HAVE THE DRIVE.
[snip snip snip snip snip]
copyright and
>licensing information, etc.
Sheesh, Debbie! That was a long one. :-) Here's my definition of a musician:
One who makes music
To me, your definition was of a really good, really professional
musician. But mine is just a plain old "musician". I am aware of many
people who are better drummers than me, but have no knowledge of theory, and
don't WISH to have any knowledge of theory. Does that make them not
musicians? And RipZero, who can lay down the UaGM guitar solo with his eyes
closed, isn't too hot in the theory department...is he not a musician too?
Your definition is kinda like what you have to be able to do to get, say, a
masters degree in music. :-)
>I know I view music from a scholarly standpoint (I have a $16,000 tuition
>bill accumulated over the past four years that says I can.) Call me a
>college snob if you must, but if I hadn't come to school for music I
>wouldn't be a true musician.
I don't think you're a snob...but, what is the difference between a musician
and a true musician? Or do you mean musician and BETTER musician?
Some of you may be able to relate to that.
>If you can't and you don't like my standards for musicians, so be it. You
>have your opnion, I have mine.
And I shared it with you. :-) :-)
Now will this spark some more stimulating
>conversation than goddamn drum talk?
Hey! I'm a drummer. :-) But I'd rather talk about something mroe
complicated than the sound of Mike's snare drum. It's not the tone that
counts, but what he plays on it that counts. Whoa! I just realized that I'm
touch typing. Cool. :-)
>IMHO, tab is a cop-out. I'm not
>saying that to put rancor in the hearts of those who use it, I just think
>it's more satisfying to be able to read music and play it. Besides, I
>started on saxophone, and there's no tab for it, just music.
>
Gilby Thetgyi said that. And I say: If there WAS tab for saxaphone, would
you have used it? Think about DAT. :-)
>Meanwhile...
>
>"perhaps if we built a large wooden badger..."
>
>"Moooooooooooooo!"
>
>"Run away! run away!"
Don't run away, I'll BITE your leg off!!
Monty Python is cool. :-)
>I play is that everyone confuses acoustics with
>electrics and thinks they're the same, so they hand me their acoustic and
>ask me to play. (I can do a mean "Holehearted" if the barrel is far enough
>down my throat, but otherwise I don't play the acoustic guitar.)
Wimp! Ryan Redfern seemed to have no trouble playing The Ytse Jam, TTT, and
PMU among other things on my dad's acoustic after he LOCKED HIS ELECTRIC IN
THE TRUNK AND COULDN'T GET IT OUT. :-)
>Hey I just saw Elizabeth Berkely on 'Step by Step'... was she the chic that
>used to be in 'Saved By the Bell' wow how ironic... from high-school brat
>to lap-dancer... ^^^^^^
>
BZZZZZZZZ!!!!!! Imediate unsubscription for that hidden Alanis Morisette
reference!!!! Heehee. ;-)
><199604010306.EAA12560@www.woc.nl>
>
> Congratulations!
>
>
>You have received a personal postcard from Dream Theater!
>
> Check it out now at World Of Cards!
Hm.....considering that this is April Fool's day, I'm gonna ignore this. :-)
>Is a bigamist a large patch of fog in Italy?
>
WHAT?! Are out of your mucking FIND?!?!?!?!
Just kidding, that was funny. I just always wanted to say that.
>someone said a few jams back that only amplitude was affected by hitting
>a drum head harder when in fact you also do raise the pitch usually by
>an unnoticeable ammount because you strech the drum head and make it a
>little bit tighter and drummers and everyone else will tell you if you
>tighten the head it raises the pitch.
Yeah...but at the contact point of the stick and the drumhead, the drum head
isn't tightened yet...so the initial sound is the same. :-) If this was
true, al tympani players would have to play as soft as the possibly could
throughout the whole song, or undertune....and I know for a fact that they
don't. ;-)
okay. G'bye.
Ben Laussade
Favorite Song of the Week: Island in the Stream
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Date: 01 Apr 1996 14:00:14 GMT
From: "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1391
Message-ID: <199604012003.AA01025@interlock.amoco.com>
*** Reply to note of 04/01/96 12:21
Another Killer B's song that's an original SOD is "Protest and Survive"...
Speak English or Die is in INCEDIBLY rough and funny disc. Check out
"Ode to Jimi...." LATER-
Steve
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 11:57:47 PST
From: Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1390
Message-ID: <199604012004.UAA36971@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net>
** Reply to note from ytsejam@ax.com 04/01/96 12:16am -0800
-I'd like to see you play they equivalent of a
-four finger tapping, cyclic technique across four to five
-strings with a pick, at a fast speed.
Country music players use these picks, they are like rings and
they're pretty cool. You can stick them on your finger and then
play away, if I ever find out the proper name I will post that.
-I'd like to see some Marcus Miller slap riffs played with a
-pick, right and left hand muting.
I'm sure it's been done before at some point in history.
-Not hackin dude but there are limitations to every technique,
-dats why deres more dan one *grin*. And no one technique does
-it all, some encompass a wider range of sounds and styles than
-others, but no one is best.
Yea but I don't place limits because at some point in time,
someone is going to come along and break those ideas. History
has shown that.
Mark
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