YTSEJAM digest 1411

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Fri Apr 05 1996 - 10:09:23 EST

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 1411

    Today's Topics:

      1) ACOS tab
     by ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
      2) studio q&a
     by ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
      3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1406
     by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
      4) Re: SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY!!!
     by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
      5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1408
     by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
      6) Boston area jammers....
     by Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
      7) Yes, another damn post
     by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
      8) Re: DreamNDamon
     by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
      9) Re: studio q&a
     by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
     10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1408 (No DTC)
     by Gilbert Jack Thetgyi <thetgyi@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
     11) Mail Item Format Warning
     by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/05/96 - 08:34:54" <response@ibmmail.com>
     12) Oh, you know, my inane ramblings tacked onto the end of your stuff.
     by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
     13) Re-Hash
     by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
     14) Lolly lolly lolly get your adverbs here.
     by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
     15) ART and DT
     by fcavani@pianeta.it (Fabio Cavani)
     16) Trifling Tidbit
     by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
     17) Vocalist-free zone??
     by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
     18) Geez...
     by larsh@ionsys.com (Lars Hellsten)
     19) Silent Man single
     by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)

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    Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 00:22:49 -0400
    From: ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: ACOS tab
    Message-ID: <19960405052247.AAA22220@mail.pananet.com>

    Who was the guy who wanted to do a group traNSCRIPTION (damn caps key) of
    ACOS? I started figuring out 'Carpe Diem' if you're intyerested...

    |---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
    |in the distance, you faintly hear... |
    | HEY!! HEEEEEEYYYY!!! LISTEN TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
    | ...and then the song starts. |
    |===========================================================================|
    |Bert's out by the pool shooting pigeons {Ernie} {ernie@.pananet.com}
    |===========================================================================|

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    Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 00:22:34 -0400
    From: ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: studio q&a
    Message-ID: <19960405052232.AAA22214@mail.pananet.com>

    I have a question for any studio experts in the jam... what are those things
    that are by each member of DT in the Awake studio picture... there sort of
    on a standed, and slanted a little, and in the back the have a bunch of
    cables plugged in... are they monitors or something?

    Besides that, I was wondering if somebody could clear up something I've
    always been wanting to know... what exactly is a click track? I know it's
    what they use to guide the musicians while they record there seperate parts,
    but how is it made? do they all play together being guided by click? or is
    it just a click? I think it's the first one, because that's what you here in
    LiT when they show 'em laying down the track..

    anyways, these are things I've figureed out on my own, and I just wanted to
    see if I was right...

    also, would that be them recording the click track in the Awake picture? and
    woluld those slanted boxes have anything to do w/ it? maybe their 'click
    generators' or whatever....

    Hey everybody... let's play a new game! let's play the
    'guess-what-they're-playing-in-the-Awake-picture' game... any guesses?

    |---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
    |in the distance, you faintly hear... |
    | HEY!! HEEEEEEYYYY!!! LISTEN TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
    | ...and then the song starts. |
    |===========================================================================|
    |Bert's out by the pool shooting pigeons {Ernie} {ernie@.pananet.com}
    |===========================================================================|

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    Date: Fri, 5 Apr 96 0:39:03 EST
    From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1406
    Message-ID: <9604050539.AA20331@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>

    aha. I understand. It all comes clear to my poor eyes. Well, thanks for
    enlightening me and I am sure you have enlightened other jammers as well.

    And to all you guys who are impersonating DT for a laugh, you are going to
    make us all so paranoid that if we ever do run into the guys on IRC or
    something, we are going to grill them and speculate as to whether it really
    was DT or not, and this is only detrimental to your relationship with the
    guys. So, although it may be cute and funny, I am extending a plea. Please
    stop the DT impersonations. After a while, it really does begin to suck and
    if DT ever sends a post to the ytsejam, we are going to have six digests with
    the subject of whether or not it is legit. I hope you all understand my
    point. I want to be able to see Derek's name, or MP/JP's name and say, "Hey,
    we're in the midst of the all knowing." I don't want to think about whether
    or not I am being duped by some ass who is trying to be cute. We already went
    through this on IRC with Labrie. I wasn't there, but some say Labrie really
    stopped by IRC and some say he was a fake. We can't probe or disprove
    anything, because it's so easy to impersonate people on the Net. So, please
    stop. Or I will have to come over to your place and beat you seneseless with
    my cane.

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    Date: Fri, 5 Apr 96 1:06:54 EST
    From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY!!!
    Message-ID: <9604050606.AA16624@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>

    Pat. We'll kill them. You don't want to step in the ring with us. We're too
    bad for your own good. We'll wipe the floors with your mangled innerds.

    you may ask, is Damon trying to be more obnoxious than Bafuvai? The answer in
    my next post.

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    Date: Fri, 5 Apr 96 1:10:00 EST
    From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1408
    Message-ID: <9604050610.AA18753@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>

    O.K. I am sorry for mentioning the mother jokes. you didn't have to direct
    them at me. I was referring to the two guys in this thread originally.
    Besides, I was trying to get them to take it to email. If you still want to
    send mother jokes, send them to me privately before I get flamed for more
    non-DT cotent and I have to put that poor bastard down.

    The answer: I was born more obnoxious than Bafuvai.

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    Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 00:58:39 -0500 (EST)
    From: Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
    To: DT List <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Boston area jammers....
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9604050035.E73886-0100000@acs5.bu.edu>

            Go see Divine Regale at Club III in Somerville on Friday, April
    5th!! And wear your ytsejam shirt, so I can say hi! Later!

    Brian

    \o/ --==Brian Wherry==-- o
     | --==bwherry@acs.bu.edu==-- /|\
    / \ "Do. Or do not. There is no try." -Yoda / \

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    Date: Fri, 5 Apr 96 1:23:00 EST
    From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Yes, another damn post
    Message-ID: <9604050623.AA23354@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>

    I am writing because I know my posts are many and lacking in true DT content.
    I seem to be getting into Bafuvai territory with my sarcasm and attempt at
    comedy, probably because I have always had this desire to be popular, and I
    guess I never quite accomplished that. So, I figured well if Bafu can get
    away with being really funny and sarcastic, two of my good traits, I think, I
    could try my hand at it. While I haven't gotten flamed, I mustsay that I
    haven't been acclaimed, either. So, I will probably just lay off for a while.
    I am guilty of cluttering up the jams with useless banter, and I am partly to
    blame for the mulitple jams each day. Every post counts, though. Oh well,
    maybe my humor is humor that only I can appreciate. maybe my constant jokes
    about my own handicap freak people out more than make them laugh. Who knows.
    And truthfully, does anybody really care anyway?

    thanks to the guy who posted about progressive rock night every first of the
    month at the Rock and Roll cafe. I appreciated that post. And whoever goes to
    see Power Windows, I am extremely jealous of you. If you have the
    opportunity, please please go see them. They kick serious ass. Could somebody
    let me know when they are coming to Jersey again.

    DT content? HMMM. nah, this is Damon you are talking to. I have nothing
    intelligent to say. I am here wasting bandwidth.

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    Date: Fri, 5 Apr 96 1:05:35 EST
    From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: DreamNDamon
    Message-ID: <9604050605.AA25429@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>

    D-man. You picking on me? I don't want to have to get rough. Don't make me
    pull out my secret weapon. I know for a fact that you all don't want me to
    fill up one entire jam of posts? So, you best be nice to me. I can easily
    outdo Dreamday.

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    Sarcasm is the spice of life.

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    Date: Fri, 5 Apr 96 1:54:46 EST
    From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: studio q&a
    Message-ID: <9604050654.AA02252@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>

    All right. Some actual DT content from me for once.

    While I never saw the pictures, those thing you refer to could be monitors.
    They could als be direct boxes, which is like an input into the mixer for
    microphones and instruments. I'm more inclined to say studio monitors.

    Click track is basically the metronome, or a way for a drummer to keep a
    steady beat. Usually they are just a click, generated by a recoreding
    machine, but I have heard of other sounds that replace the click, probably
    triggered by MIDI like drums ounds or notes. Neil Peart once said that he
    uses a bass drum sound as a click. As I said, usually the drummer uses the
    click track to keep a steady beat, since you always lay down drums first.
    Then the rest of the band plays to the steady drums. While clicks are good
    for some things, they tend to make the music sound inhuman if the driummer is
    too exact, although I happen to like a drummer that can stay at a steady beat
    and not speed up and slow down. That more than anything is a sign of a good
    drummer, if he or she can keep a good steady tempo. But, I digress. We now
    return you to your regularily scheduled non-dreamtheater content jam.

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    Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 02:19:24 -0500 (EST)
    From: Gilbert Jack Thetgyi <thetgyi@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1408 (No DTC)
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9604050223.A15955-0100000@bgnet2.bgsu.edu>

    On Thu, 4 Apr 1996, Damon M. Fibraio wrote:

    > O.K. I am sorry for mentioning the mother jokes. you didn't have to direct
    > them at me. I was referring to the two guys in this thread originally.
    > Besides, I was trying to get them to take it to email.

    Well, DJ DMF, if you've actually read some 'Jams lately, instead of trying
    to outdo DreamNDay, you'd notice that a certain Oregonian and myself have
    not flamed each other on the 'Jam since Warren's response and my rebuttal.
    There have been more posts by third parties then ourselves. So, be careful
    of making assumptions that may or may not be provable. Go out and find a
    woman for crying out loud, get some tips from Gandalf if necessary. One
    more thing: yo' mama! :)

                                                            Singe-cerely,

                                                            G. Jack Thetgyi
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    "Damn kids with their loud rock music."
       -Crow T. Robot, Mystery Science Theater 3000 #212: "Godzilla vs. Megalon"
    "Any movie with wakka-cha-wakka in it is okay by me."
                       -Tom Servo, Mystery Science Theater 3000 #512: "Mitchell"
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    Date: Fri, 05 Apr 1996 02:33:35 EST
    From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/05/96 - 08:34:54" <response@ibmmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
    Message-ID: <199604050733.XAA12093@mindcrime.ax.com>

    The mail item that you sent at 07:33:30 GMT on 05 Apr 1996 has been delivered.

    However, it has been necessary to convert this item into a
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    Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 02:54:52 -0500 (EST)
    From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
    To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Oh, you know, my inane ramblings tacked onto the end of your stuff.
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9604050234.C12101-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>

    > From: Jeffrey David Olson <sinista@netexpress.net>
    > Subject: Sorry!!!!!
    >
    > I don't mean to flame, but, I have posted, and have seen others posted
    > about getting dubs of the Xmas shows... and have seen nothing in turn. I
    > thought the tape tree was a way for all the unfortunates in the jammer
    > community who didnt get to see it first hand, get a dub of the shows.

    Speaking of which, am I the only one that hasn't gotten Birch Hill from
    the tape tree yet?

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    > From: swanson@henge.com (Sheila Swanson) > Subject: Olduns > > It's true, there is an article in the back of guitar world on Norweigen > black metal. Not only did Mayhem's bassist kill the guitar player but he > boiled the brains and offered them to the rest of the band. Most of the > other members of the band is also in jail for defacing churches, etc.

    Cool! How can I hear some of this stuff? And, now that I'm thinking of it, how does one serve brain? Al dente with tomato sauce? On a bed of rice and lettuce? Enquiring minds want to know! Hmm... that sure would make an interesting Happy Meal, no?

    > There was also a band here in Denver who's bassist told the band he was > going to rape a girl, and he did. The rest of the band is having to testify > against him, which should be rough judging on how tight friends in bands > are. This is pretty scary.

    That's kinda messed up. Why are all the sickos the bass players? (Sleep with one eye open, boys. :)

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    > From: FNGX01A@prodigy.com (MR JOHN CAHILLJR) > Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1409 > > Your correct D-Man it must be the high school. You know that we ( > St. Anthony's ) always were cooler than Chaminade. What do you expect > from an all boys Catholic school?

    Um, if I remember correctly, I'm in grad school and you work at Waldbaums, right? And Mojo and Skadz have landed in cool computer-type jobs without the benefit of college degrees, if I'm not mistaken.

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    > From: Keith Aspinall <kgunner@asu.edu> > Subject: i don't think it's an april fools joke > > from the latest _zia zine_ (an arizona record store): > > blind melon has found a new vocalist: sebastian bachm formerly of > skid row. in related melon news, a final album featuring deadguy shannon

    This must be bullshit. It just has to be. Please, God, tell me that this is some sick joke!

    > hoon is to be released later this year. it includes tracks recorded > shortly before the singer's untimely death--not from drugs and alcohol, > as previous reports indicated, but from asphyxiation resulting from > looping a necktie over a joist in the tour bus, and hanging himself while > masturbating--as well as "hotel" tapes made by hoon during the band's

    That's probably more information than we really needed.

    > tour. in addition, a bootleg video of hoon and other band members is > reportedly circulating amoung tape trading circles: it depicts the melon > guys taking turns hanging with the necktie while whacking off.

    Oh, gee. Where can I get one?

    > i don't make up the news, i just report it

    I'm reminded of an ancient Greek named Marathon... :)

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    > From: ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1408 > > the perfect example: SKID ROW... compare the first CD to the second... isn't > it iroinic that a pretty ballad gave them the liberty to get heavier on the > second?... and even heavier-er on the third?

    When it rains...

    By the way, for anyone that cares, this May 18th is not only Armed Forces Day, but SNL will feature Jim Carrey and Soundgarden. Set your VCRs!

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------ \|/ ____ \|/ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "@'/ ,. \`@" cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" /_| \__/ |_\ d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ \__U_/ http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/

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    Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 00:51:12 -0800 From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re-Hash Message-ID: <199604050851.AAA27718@cats.ucsc.edu>

    Well, everyone else is prolly behind on Janms, so lemme rehash some old threads:

    Musician: Okay, one ingredient answer. To be a musician you must strive to be the best that you can on your chosen instrument(s)

    Yes, this means that anyone with the attitude of "Well, I'll never play like (insert virtuoso here) so I'll just sing about free peaches" is _NOT_ a musician. I happen to think that being the best requires having the most knowledge you can, and that anyone who feels that formal theory, reading music, etc. is not important is seriously selling themselves short. A Native American, who studies his "theory" from tribal rituals, etc. is a musician, because the society and the music do not fit into the western theory. But, if he/she just picked up a drum and played, I doubt that the tribe would look upon that person as a "musician", just as a person with a bow is not a hunter, nor is someone who knows how to pick berries a cook.

    Nor do I feel that someone who buys a set of drums and sits on a street corner banging away, begging for spare change a musician. You must always be learning. , always increasing your knowledge of the instrument, beyond simply playing. The moment you say "I know enough, let's just play for the rest of my life" you cease to be a true musician.

    And, if that isn't enough, I feel that this applies not just to musicians, but to any profession/art/whatever.

    Now, um (obMoo) what else was I gonna talk bout?

    WHo knows. I gotta get sleep. In the infamous and ever wise of Arnold "The Terminator" Schwarzennager (however you spell it)

    "My nipples! They are very sensitive!"

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    Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 02:04:52 -0700 From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Lolly lolly lolly get your adverbs here. Message-ID: <199604050904.CAA16153@maple.enet.net>

    Hehehehehe.

    I was listening to the radio today, and a bunch of alternative bands did a version of Schoolhouse Rock. I heard Better than Ezra do "Conjunction Junction". That was cool. Just thought I'd share that with you.

    Mr. Cool

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    Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 12:33:35 +0200 From: fcavani@pianeta.it (Fabio Cavani) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ART and DT Message-ID: <199604051033.MAA12819@ns.pianeta.it>

    >>But this is only true for music which is art: and, in my opinion, only >classical >>music is art: so, a classical musician and mainly a classical composer are >>artists: the others are not. >>(So, DT's music is not a form of art... do you agree?) > >Please explain to me why you feel this way... I don't like to flame in vain..:) > Art is very difficult to define, but I don't think that something beautiful, elaborated, original, intelligent, must be necessarily defined art. An artist, to produce a work of art, must have a great knowledge of art history, and must be able to understand and reproduce the art of the past. Then he can move one step forward, being original but at the same time bearing in mind the rules of what he's doing, maybe partially breaking some of them.

    In this way music has moved from Greece to Rome to Gregorian rules to mottetto to Bach to Beethoven to Chopin to Debussy and so on.

    For example, Picasso painted Guernica after learning how to paint in the previous "normal" style. Byron had in mind the previous literary experiences while writing his works. I believe in artistic genius, but it must develop on previous experiences. Hope I explained myself.

    The point is, I think rock music partially had classical music as an influence, but I refuse to call it art. It's a popular form of music that is done for easy pleasure, not as an artistic purpouse. Progressive rock originates from rock. Of course, it is much more closer to art then others genres. But it belongs to another field, and it is completely separated from modern classical music.

    But don't get me wrong: it's just a matter of definition. I don't listen to modern classical music, while I love DT. I also listen to easier music, for example Pearl Jam, because I like it. But they aren't art. You could say prog rock is an attempt to conciliate different music styles and classical music. I would agree.

    But of course, this is only my opinion: I could be wrong.

    Fabio

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    Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 08:27:14 -0500 (EST) From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Trifling Tidbit Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960405082217.1981B-100000@frogger.rs.itd.umich.edu>

    About the subject: am I being flattering, or have I crossed the line into assholiness?? :-) (no offense meant, Jack)

    A quick question: Is the show broadcast on Japanese PPV (Awake in Japan) the same as the Mind Control boot show? I would check myself, but my MC dub is making the rounds/converting the masses.......

    partha

    p.s. Mape: not sure if you were being totally serious about DT's Japanese popularity having something to do with that nation's population size, but for what it's worth, we in the USA outnumber them about 2:1, so it's not the size that counts........ ppsm

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    Date: Fri, 5 Apr 96 15:48:40 +0200 From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop) To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: nga@server3.software-ag.de Subject: Vocalist-free zone?? Message-ID: <9604051348.AA00224@sundoc13.software-ag.de>

    Hi all

    well yesterday I went out and listened to (and bought) Damnation Game by Symphony X. Great music, lots of interesting breaks/changes etc. but the lyrics are really grim and the vocalist sounds like Charlie D. with laryngitis - it nearly put me off buying the album. So, does anybody know of any prog bands that only play instrumentals? Almost all prog bands that I have heard write lyrics that are reminiscent of the pubescent outpourings of some teenager who has just been dumped by his first girl (OK, there are some exceptions to this sweeping generalization), or they attempt to paraphrase the works of Hermann Hesse, added to which, a lot of the vocalists try and outdo or at least keep up with the guys (and gals) who play the instruments, and the results are, to my ears, sometimes pretty bad. One obvious exception as far as the lyrics are concerned is Jon Anderson, who used to write complete nonsense (ever read the lyrics to Topo- graphic Oceans?): I'm convinced he used to put words together just for the sound they made, and not for the meaning.

    This is not intentional flame bait (although I expect to smell the delicate aroma of singed butt-cheek hair quite soon) but a real question: does anybody know of such a band? I would be more than interested.

    Any Pantera fans out there? I hear that the new album is due to be released (here in Germany anyway) at the end of May. Write it in your diary and lock up your grandmother. There should also be a new album by the great German band Blind Guardian at the same time, so start saving your Pfennigs now.

    Damn BSE: I can't have my traditional Good Friday meal of a large rare steak any more. Is it just me, or is Good Friday possibly the most boring day in the whole year? Oh well, don't eat too many Easter eggs.

    English foreplay: "are you awake?"

    stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de)

    Currently playing: Smashing Pumpkins - Pisces Iscariot

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    Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 09:17:31 -0500 From: larsh@ionsys.com (Lars Hellsten) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Geez... Message-ID: <199604051417.JAA24424@bart.ionsys.com>

    > Last one I promise. GO OUT AND BUY "ROOTS" BY SEPULTURA! These guys >get my vote for best metal album of '96! They have been listening to .. >style and barks/chants/raps ala Korn with aplomb. Support these >extremely talented guys! They are touring for the next year and a >half so be damn sure to go and see them. It's sure to be an >incredible show! I hope they tour with Korn! Riots would commence at >the end of every show!!!!!!!!!

    What a pile of bullshit. I used to think the people here had taste in music (maybe they really did and there's just a lot of newbies on the list), and that the reason we liked Dream Theater was that the music can be considered "metal", but is extremely progressive and isn't at all like your typical metal band.

    Now all of a sudden people on this list are talking about death metal (please!), Korn (my brother has their CD - you call this MUSIC?!? TALENTED?!?!? HAHAHAHAHAH! Excuse me, I just pissed myself...)

    Can we please go back to the OLD YtseJam?

    -- Lars Hellsten (larsh@ionsys.com) /*/ http://www.ionsys.com/~larsh "Once I reached for love, and now I reach for life" - Dream Theater

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    Date: Thu, 4 Apr 96 21:54:09 PST From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Silent Man single Message-ID: <9604050554.AA25826@tengs1>

    > From: Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu> > > I just have a question about the Eve recording. When Awake was released, > it was released in Japan with a mini-disc that had the version of Eve > recorded in the studio while Awake was recorded. I think one of the > band members also said it would show up in the U.S. as a B-side or > something. My question is: is this studio version of Eve the same as > the one on the SM CD?

    Yes. And YKYARDTF(tm) if you spend $30 for the Japanese Awake import to get it |>)>

    Zach

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