YTSEJAM Digest 1419
Today's Topics:
1) Asses...music or not? You be the judge.
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
2) Re: The sounds my ASS makes
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
3) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/08/96 - 04:24:10" <response@ibmmail.com>
4) Showgirls? (fwd)
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1416
by ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
6) Re: Multiphonic Misc. Miasma
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
7) Re: SSDD...
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
8) Re: Styx reunion
by skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook)
9) Re: Topic
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
10) Stuff...
by Kevin Rios <krios@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
11) da guess
by ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
12) Re: Styx reunion
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
13) Irc
by rbarker@epix.net
14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1418
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
15) Michael Jackson.
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
16) IBANEZ and click tracks
by "Brian K. Adams" <aa467@seorf.ohiou.edu>
17) Robotech? Heck yea!
by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
18) Interesting Free Offer........
by JohnChen00@aol.com
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 20:14:26 -0700
From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Asses...music or not? You be the judge.
Message-ID: <199604080314.UAA06918@maple.enet.net>
>> No it wouldn't. It would be a chair being used as a table. If you beat on
>> a trash can, it's a trash can, not a drum. You might be playing some
>> serious rythms but you'd be playing them on a trash can. If the music
>> specified a trash can and you used a drum, it wouldn't be a trash can.
>> You can't just change the name of a thing. This guys ass ain't no musical
>> instrument and no sound coming from it is music even if he stood on a
>
Lemme rephrase that...if someone has a chair it can be used as a
table. It's NOT a table...but it can do everything a table does. SO, if
someone who can make music with his ass, calls his ass a musical instrument,
then it can be USED as a musical instrument and do everything a musical
instrument can do. So, the only thing it doesn't have is the name....and
what's in a name?
>Sorry, I have to agree witht whoever said that it's music if the originator
meant it to be music. Can I say that Industrial music is not music
>because it is not pleasing to my ear? No. So then the definition must mean
pleasing to SOMEONE's ear. But what if there is someone out there
>who enjoys the sound of flatulence (like maybe the guy who recorded it)?
Then it's music.
Say, I make this cool sound involving my tounge, my cheek and a dead
squirrel, and I really like it..but I don't call it music, then it's not.
Just because you enjoy something doesn't mean it's music. The thought has to
cross your mind somewhere that: Hey! This is music! Otherwise it's just a
really cool sound.
Hey.
That was kinda gross.
>> Besides,
>> this was about musicians, not music itself. :)
>
>True. Let's drop this now. And be sure to check out my new CD, "Songs from
Below!" :)
On the contrary. It started when I asked: What is music?
Ha.
>Who's with me?
You're asking if Who is with you? Shouldn't you know that? I mean, that Who
is a pretty decisive guy.
Oh MAN, was that bad.
>Excellent performance of TTT with its outro, The Mists of Evening, except
>James pulls that scrunched face deal again when he sings "go back to square
>one..." It sounds more like "geh beh da squaeh whe"!
That's the best part of a live DT show! And, its: Squeaah Wuuuh.
> His playing is absolute crap. They
>should have taken it away from him and shoved it up his butt. He would have
>played it better, although it still would have sounded like crap (pun
>intended).
>
See? The sound your ass makes IS music!
:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
Mr. Cool
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 96 23:18:41 EDT
From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: The sounds my ASS makes
Message-ID: <9604080318.AA13147@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
Mark you are twisted indeed. I like to think that music is notes and rhythm.
Melody, harmony and rhythm. Last time I checked, you really couldn't control
the pitch of gastric intestinal releases, a.k.a. farts, so, let's stop the
fart music right here.
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Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 23:22:57 EDT
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/08/96 - 04:24:10" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 20:35:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Showgirls? (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.92a.960407203327.18511C-100000@homer05.u.washington.edu>
Still screaming from the lonely cliff...
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Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 15:54:41 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Showgirls? (fwd)
One more time for posterity...
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Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 00:06:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Showgirls? (fwd)
Let's try this again...
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 19:07:21 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Showgirls?
> From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
> To: ThE NuGgeTjAm <ytsejam@ax.com>
>
>>>>Hey I just saw Elizabeth Berkely on 'Step by Step'... was she the
>>>>chic that used to be in 'Saved By the Bell' wow how ironic... from
>>>>high-school brat to lap-dancer...
>>>
>>>Maybe in PANAMA, but we call it Showgirls in ARKVILLE!
>>
>>I'm talking way b4 Showgirls... You remember don't you, Saved by the
>>Bell? that really stupid TV programs which, as most of its type, make a
>>totally inaccurate representation of high school... she was the one w/
>>the long red curly hair...
>
> He wasn't talking about Saved By the Bell, he was talking about
> Showgirls. Elizabeth Berkely was a lap dancer in *Showgirls*, not "Step
> by Step."
BERKELY IS NO FUCKING GUARANTEE!!!
BWAAAAHAHAHAHA!!! (me laughing my ass off at my silly grudge-holding
self.)
Bafu Vai
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 23:43:32 -0400
From: ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1416
Message-ID: <19960408034330.AAA24032@mail.pananet.com>
>From: "Ryan Eschauzier '97" <rdesc@conncoll.edu>
>Are we all sure that The Ones Who Help To Set the Sun is about The Death
>of Spock? This seems pretty unlikely. How about Afterlife? That seems
>a little more Death of Spockish. THANKS.
>
TOWHTSTS isn't about the death of Spock... 'Death of Spock' was its working
title when it was an instrumental (thanks for the interview sin:)
>And let's not forget those god-awful consumer-level plastic heaps with the
>dreaded, spawn of satan "Auto Accompaniment" features. (washes his mouth
>out with soap after aaying such naughty words)
>
Hey! some of us can't afford anything better, you know..:)
>Oh and for all you German jammers Savatage, Iced Earth, Rage, The
>Gathering, Nevermore and Tiamat (plus some others I think) are going
>to do some open air concerts this summer in Deutschland. Me and four
>friends (hello Ties *grin*) will be at the Berlin show, if anyone
>cares.
>
Do you know all the cities and dates? are they playing anywher in the south?
one last comment.... ANGRA RUUUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!
anybody who finds any CD by these guys check it out... I was lucky enough to
record the video for 'Carry On' this time... very cool. BTW, someone told
me they're Brazilian, is this true? anybody heard of an Argntinan prog-rock
band called 2112 (I wonder who their influences are)? I read about them on a
spanish version of Guitar Player, but I haven't heard them...
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It's time to say good-bye :(
Ernie
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 96 23:45:09 EDT
From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Multiphonic Misc. Miasma
Message-ID: <9604080345.AA02544@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
Hey, Jack. Your post. It wasn't long enough. I mean, I wanted more of your
whit and charm. And you bitch to me about how much I post. The only
difference is that yours is cramped into one. I make people peck through my
15.
And about that demo buttons on keyboards? Get real, man. You are thinking of
those $300 casios. You know, they have 15 sounds, and 15 preprogrammed drum
loops, and accompanying chord structures to play over with your 4 notes of
polyphony, if anybody knows what that is. Hell, these things have built in
speakers. These are not instruments, they are toys. I was not referring to
toys. Anybody who plays on those things is just messing around in peewee
ball. You can't get away with only knowing three chords on a keyboard, no
matter what anybody tells you.that was my point. Guitarists and bassists can
and do, (listen to green day). Drummers can get away with never doing a fill.
singers can just scream (listen to ... anybody today on top 40 radio, but
especially Mr. Cobain). KeyboardistS? We have to know as much as we can, and
are of course the least respected musician in rock music and in the bands we
play in. (Can't you tell I am a bitter bastard?) so, no offense, but to the
rest of you, go screw off. I am going alone. My keyboards, and sequencers and
me. You all had your chance to snatch me up, but now, ... forget it. I don't
need your hacking asses anymore. Keyboards rule. :)
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 96 23:52:25 EDT
From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: SSDD...
Message-ID: <9604080352.AA19677@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
D-man. I'd do it for money too, of course with women only. Anybody interested?
And besides, how do you know that Tory fakes it? Have you had her? If so, how
can I get a piece? :) (It's a joke, guys. I like her, I like her playing, I
like her singing, so if you intend to flame, ....... do it. I dare you. You
will lose.)
Damon Fibraio, obnoxious son of a bitch
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 20:54:06 -0700
From: skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Styx reunion
Message-ID: <199604080354.UAA18403@dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com>
>>Another show I am excited is : STYX. The original MEMBERS
>>are in this tour! Should be a GREAT show!
Really! I had heard Tommy Shaw was gonna play with them. Glad he's not
going to be there, I never really liked him much. IMO they rocked a lot
harder when John Crulewsky (sp?) was with them. Now taht I know TS
isn't going to be there I'll definitely be going.
Scott Cook
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 96 0:01:46 EDT
From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Topic
Message-ID: <9604080401.AA11078@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
Hey, Chirs? What grip will I use on my secret weapon? Two fisted, man. Always
gets the job done.
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 00:05:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kevin Rios <krios@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Stuff...
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960408000137.23589A-100000@scls1>
Hey all!!! Just got my Antiquites and (of course) is excellent. Also,
someone mentioned STYX touring. I heard about this but have not seen any
tour dates yet. If anyone knows any info on this please post or e-mail me
personally. Thanks
-->Kevin<--
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 00:24:28 -0400
From: ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: da guess
Message-ID: <19960408042419.AAA24521@mail.pananet.com>
>>Hey everybody... let's play a new game! let's play the
>>'guess-what-they're-playing-in-the-Awake-picture' game... any guesses?
>
>
>Caught in a Web. James is holding a tambourine.
>
You know, it's kinda hard to hold a tambourine when both your hands are in
your pockets...
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It's time to say good-bye :(
Ernie
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 96 0:28:34 EDT
From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Styx reunion
Message-ID: <9604080428.AA29515@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
Scott, Shaw is back. Cancel the ticket. Although, Shaw is not one of the
original members. But you said that. I liked shaw, but I like the original
shit too. I like Styx. Dennis DeYoung is the man on keys. At least next to
Rick Wakeman and Kevin More.
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 96 00:58:04 PDT
From: rbarker@epix.net
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Irc
Message-ID: <Chameleon.960408005945.rbarker@.epix.net>
I was on #Ytsejam last night and I left to go and do
something and I tryed for a half an hour to get back on and
I could not. Did the server crash or something? Does
anyone know whats going on?
Robert Barker(Ibanez)
-------------------------------------
Name: Barker
E-mail: rbarker@epix.net
Date: 4/8/96
Time: 12:58:04 AM
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 22:13:18 -0700
From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1418
Message-ID: <199604080513.WAA21663@cats.ucsc.edu>
>You consider 'Tage prague? I don't really think so. And, I don't think it
>puts DT to shame. They're two different kinds of bands. They're not trying
>to compete with eachother. Why am I replying to that? You weren't even
>talking to me. Oh well....
I think they are borderline Prague. So, let's call them (puling out the
Atlas) Ricany Metal. ;) (Lidice was my other choice, but didn't sound as
good) While I've only heard Edge of Thorns, Handful of Rain and Dead Winter
Dead (the albums, not just the songs) I do think that they have some
definite Prog leanings, especially on songs like Chance and most of DWD.
It's in the same sense that I consider Queen to be Prog, though with more
original personality than 'Tage. Hey, if we want to pull numbers, there's a
song in 7/4 on DWD.
>Whoops. I neglected to read what Chris Oates was replying to. Why do you
>wish DT would put out songs like that? If they did, then they would sound
>just like Savatage, then there wouldbe no reason to have both bands in
>existence, so one would just cease to BE.
I definitely agree. Although I like DT a lot more than 'Tage, I do own 3 of
their albums and plan to get some more (at least "Streets" -- I'm a concept
album freak) I see 'Tage as being one step removed from mainstream hard
rock/metal. That one step makes them stand out against the mainstream, but
if Prog were mainstream, then most bands would only be one step away, hence
my original comment. (Did that make sense?)
>
>No...but to answer ALL of your questions:
>
>Yes.
Cool!
>No.
Damn.
>Green.
But wouldn't that clash with the carpet?
>Ten.
Yeah. Everything Pearl Jam's done since then sucked.
>Aunt Lucy's hamster
Hey, the hamster said it was okay!
>No.
Please?
>No.
It was worth a shot.
>Oh GOD, no!
erm, only kidding?
>Maybe.
Better than no.
>Sure...lemme slip into something more comfortable.
I've always been a fan of chicken suits.
>Excellently put Ben. Here are my two cents on this... Both bands are
>excellent bands, but I wouldn't want either of them trying to copy the
>others style. I believe that is more techincally advanced in their
>individual ability on their instruments and in the musical compositions
>they write.
I think that is the better of the two as well. (Hm. A non-committal
agreement?)
>MTFBWY! Mike Bahr, durnik@indirect.com/mikebahr@dreamt.org
QPFZT! Chris Oates
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 22:16:25 -0700
From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Michael Jackson.
Message-ID: <199604080516.WAA09700@maple.enet.net>
>2) I swear, but after hearing the first part of this version of ACOS with
>JL, I thought I was hearing Michael Jackson. ex: "I rememebr a time, my
>frail virgin mind...watch the crimson sunrise, imagine what it might
>find..." Yes, after hearing this part, I thought of MJ. When you get
>your copy of AQ, tell me if you agree or if you think I'm insane.
>
When you think about it, Michael Jackson wouldn't really sound that bad
singing ACoS. I listened to him singing the end in my mind, and it sounded
quite good. Now, I don't have a clue if MJ has the range to sing it, but
from what I've heard it would sound okay.
Man. This sucks. It's 10:00. I have no new mail. The IRC server is screwed
up and I can't connect. I'm bored. I can't fall asleep. Tomorrow is the the
first day back to school after spring break. Argh! Oh whoops...was I
wasting bandwidth again? Are you sure? How do you really know? Who's the
judge of whether bandwidth is wasted or not?
I really like those samples of Chromakey on KevMo's web page. I
think I'll order his demo. And, Watercolor isn't really that bad...just got
some funky lyrics. I've never been a big lyric person. When I listen to a
song, I don't pay much attention to the lyrics unless a. I want to sing that
song because it has cool vocal melodies, or b. It has exceptionally GOOD
lyrics. A song is a piece of music and a poem. I'm not a big poetry fan, but
I do enjoy good poetry. Lyrics also help convey emotion...say, in A Change
of Seasons, at the end of Carpe Diem (Carpe Dorkum?), Sieze the Day (Sieze
the Dork?), I get real tense when I think of somebody saying goodbye to
their mother for the last time. If I say that, though, it doesn't mean that
I think there is no need for a vocalist. %.01 percent of singing is the
lyrics...the rest is all in the melodies. Anybody can say words, but how
many people can hit that really high note that James LaBrie hits sometimes?
Wow. I'm REALLY bored.
I got a haircut tonight. I shaved the sides and left the top. I'm
going to go for the shaved-sides-with-a-ponytail look...I don't know if
it'll work though, because my hair is incredibly funky. Oh well. Buhbye.
:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
Mr. Cool
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 01:02:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Brian K. Adams" <aa467@seorf.ohiou.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: IBANEZ and click tracks
Message-ID: <199604080502.BAA21843@ra.cs.ohiou.edu>
Someone posted something a couple days ago asking about the Petrucci
signature Ibanez. I work in a music store and we are an Ibanez dealer.
My understanding of the Petrucci models is this...The JPM-100 was a
limited edition guitart that was introduced around late summer of '95. If
these things aren't sold out by now something is definitely very wrong.
This guitar was an exact clone of the one John plays. Now in the 1996
Ibanez catalog they have introduced a model called the JPM-2 (I think that
number is right) which supposedly is the same guitar with the same picasso
artwork only in a different color scheme and also without the signed
certificate and the limited edition collectors status. Nonetheless an
excellent guitar. If the person who was interested in the 100 is
interested in the other or anyone for that matter can mail me and I will
find out more details and prices. If someone is interested in purchasing
one I can ship it out to you and the store I work at can be almost anyones
prices so let me know.....
Also a quick note on the click thing.....If I remember correctly on LiT
when they are showing clips of the recording of images, I seem to remember
a shot of Kevin putting down a track to a click while tapping his hand on
the side of his keyboard....This should explain how it works
Brian Adams
aa467@seorf.ohiou.edu
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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 00:19:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Robotech? Heck yea!
Message-ID: <199604080719.AA26067@crl6.crl.com>
>Speaking of Rook, anyone remember Robotech?
Hell yes. :) I compiled all of the episodes (all 3 sections,
Macross, Southern Cross and the Invid War) onto video and it makes a
most-excellent weekend of viewing. It was cancelled here after at
least 3 full runs when parents supposedly complained the show was too
realistic for afternoon cartoons: "but people actually DIE in it!"
Yea, real life is like that.
There was some remarkably good science fiction in that show, too. Not
too many preschoolers can be expected to know what a gravitational
mine or a space-fold generator is..... heh!
-- +--- Paul W. Cashman vanyel@crl.com http://www.crl.com/~vanyel ---+ | Rush * Robert Jordan * Bonedance * Michael Moorcock * Metallica | | James P. Hogan * Dream Theater * Robert Heinlein * NIN * Dead | | Can Dance * Mercedes Lackey * Mutha's Day Out * Raymond Feist.....|------------------------------
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Catalogue Format Options: 1. 19-Part email- can be read by EVERYONE (~525 K Total). 2. For more advanced computer users: attached text file ~525K - you must know how to download an attached text file and then be able to open it with your word processor. If in doubt, don't ask for this version. This isn't for internet *newbies.* Better to order option 1 and spend a few minutes pasting them into one whole text document with your word processor, than to waste hours trying to figure how to deal with this option. 3. For more advanced Macintosh computer users: compressed attached text file, created with a Stuffit(tm) self-extracting archive (.sea), ~133K. Can be decompressed by any Macintosh computer user; no special expansion software or knowledge of Stuffit (tm) needed. You just double-click on the file icon and it automatically expands (unstuffs). This is for more advanced mac computer users only, as you still have to know how to deal with an attached file. It will cut your download time by 75%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do. 4. For expert computer users: compressed attached text file, created with Stuffit(tm), ~114K. Can be decompressed by any computer user who has expansion software to decompress (expand) Stuffit(tm) (.sit) files. This is for more advanced computer users only and will cut your download time by 78%. Expands out to the same ~525K file in option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do.
Hi fellow 'netters,
My name is John Chen and I recently started using a magazine subscription club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription deal with your first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them. They have over 1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country on a subscription basis. As for computer magazines from the USA, they more of a selection than I ever knew even existed. They have magazines for most every area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles.
Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their competitors and even the publishers themselves. This is their price guarantee.
Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half of what the newsstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines. On some titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge. They feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas. In the USA, people buy magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes or hours. They are so cheap in the USA! Well, this company would like to make it the same way for their overseas members. They are also cheaper than all their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the publishers themselves! This is their price guarantee. Around one-half their business comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new members who only speak limited English as a 2nd language.
Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and cut-out all the middlemen.
They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell.
Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student. I don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my part-time software business! Please fill out the above form and carefully follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail.
They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are less than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other times, just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet. They assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it.
They have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as I haved moved from one country to another.
They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from a special list of over 295 popular titles published in the USA. They will give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular USA titles they sell.
They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have clients in around 45 or 46 countries now. Outside the USA there is a charge for FPH (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie subs) that varies from magazine to magazine. I have found their staff to be very friendly and courteous. They even helped me with an address change when I moved from one country to another. The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members" (even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts as a new member. When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls you personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes he has one of his assistants call. He is kind of quirky sometimes - he insists on setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I sure wouldn't want to have his phone bills!), but you can place future orders (after your first order) via E-mail.
He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know just as much as he does about this magazine stuff. If you live overseas, he will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he still makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long distance rates are cheaper then.
He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing members and he does virtually no advertising. When I got set-up, they had a 2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they could join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately when you call. ) I think they are able to get back to prospective new members the same day or within a few days now, as they have increased their staff. I am not sure about this.........but if you email the above form to them, that is the way to get started!
They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey) !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell.
They then send you email that outlines how his club works and the list of free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what he sells; and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly, no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and answer all your questions.
Once you get in, you'll love them. I do.
Sincerely,
John Chen
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