YTSEJAM Digest 1482
Today's Topics:
1) el n gee first show
by gehrig4@seacoast.com (Robert Rivers)
2) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/26/96 - 04:03:17" <response@ibmmail.com>
3) Hmmm...
by clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E Cleary)
4) Re: Fantastic Free Offer I found on the net
by blane@nla.gov.au
5) Todays Real alternative
by kurt@fgallery.com
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1478
by ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
7) Ytse-Spam
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
8) AUSTRALIA - here he comes!!!!!
by Evan Thomson <930377@bud.cc.swin.edu.au>
9) M. Portnoy interview -- you ask the questions!
by cathexis@acmenet.net
10) End of Jam Wars
by BigDTFan@aol.com
11) I'm a Connecticutician..sorta
by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
12) VERY IMPORTANT - READ NOW
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
13) Tempest
by szucseue@saber.udayton.edu
14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1477
by Daniel McCormack <dmc@dreamt.org>
15) Buzz Of The Day
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 21:11:46 -0400
From: gehrig4@seacoast.com (Robert Rivers)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: el n gee first show
Message-ID: <199604260111.VAA11098@worf.worx.net>
I'm kind of sick of hearing peple whine about waiting in line
in the cold , at the first New London show. I mean you did get
to see the greatest band. you did experience the greatest
pleasure on earth, so what if you to had to wait ten hours in
the cold. my friends and I live 4+ hours away and had tickets
in hand for 2 months prior, and got primed in a nice warm bar
100 yds. down the street. So please don't cry to me.
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 23:01:58 EDT
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/26/96 - 04:03:17" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
Message-ID: <199604260301.UAA17179@mindcrime.ax.com>
The mail item that you sent at 03:01:51 GMT on 26 Apr 1996 has been delivered.
However, it has been necessary to convert this item into a
format that is acceptable to the recipient, FITIPMOL at IBMMAIL.
Information beyond column 79 in the mail item will have been wrapped.
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 22:36:06 -0500
From: clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E Cleary)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Hmmm...
Message-ID: <199604260336.WAA20726@tuvok.marian.edu>
>Later from LoserLand,
>DaBigL-man :^)
>
>P-sub-S: Hey Corey, do I still get my 5 grand? Oh, and while your at it,
>throw in 4 plane tickets and hotel fees for YtseCon III. :^) :^)
>
The 5 grand is questionable, but the YtseCon III stuff we can discuss.
>
>Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 09:44:55 -0400
>From: GHSRocker@aol.com
>To: ytsejam@ax.com
>Subject: The JP clinic in Akron
>Message-ID: <960425094454_477956928@emout14.mail.aol.com>
>
[saving you trouble}
> Talk to you all in the future, George.
>**********************************************************
>If you see me driving sideways...wave.
>Never drive faster than your guardian angel can fly.
>
>
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>End of YTSEJAM Digest 1478
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>
I'm now hungry to join the JP guitar quest. (And I don't think your post
was long enough in digest 1478 :)
Corey E. Cleary
Somewhere in the promises
I've fallen...
Deep beneath the light.
-- C. E. Cleary
E-mail:
clearyce@marian.edu
dragon@dreamt.org
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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 13:09:57 +0000
From: blane@nla.gov.au
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Fantastic Free Offer I found on the net
Message-ID: <199604260315.NAA40630@email.nla.gov.au>
F##K me half a jam of spam.
Lewisarons can bite me.
Brett
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 23:16:28 -0400
From: kurt@fgallery.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Todays Real alternative
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.4.25.-9.16.28.2916992174.279203@bbs.fgallery.com>
Humm have you ever thought that ..in the early 90's Music like Nirvana
and Pearl Jam and the likes was labeled alternative and people liked
alternative because it was not mainstream.. NOW we prog-metal(real)
music fans should be the ones called alternative..because the whole damn
"alternative" genre has gone completeley mainstream...it used to be
bands like those on 120min and shows like that ..now all the friggin
day on emtpyV.. alternative alternative ... so i guess now WE metal-prog
fans are the "alternative" fans....
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 23:38:48 -0400
From: ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1478
Message-ID: <19960426033847.AAA12794@mail.pananet.com>
> JP asked if anyone knew what the symbol was that the band uses. After a
>few wrong answers, someone stated that it is the 'M' for Mary, Queen of
>Scots.
You, b4 I got on th net, I always thought that symbol was 2 'd's back to
back on top of a 't'...so I never found it odd... then I found out about
Majesty...
>Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1440
>>DT should write music for a video game....
>>
>>later
>>
>>----------------------------------
>>It's time to say good-bye :(
>>Ernie
>
>JP said that he is writing music for a Sega Saturn pinball game. He
I'm feelin' kinda spooky :)
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"No contaban con mi astucia!"
Ernie
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 23:37:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Ytse-Spam
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9604252357.D3714-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: Lewisarons@aol.com
> To: internet.announcement.service@r1.f64.n8769.z303.fidonet.org
> Subject: Fantastic Free Offer I found on the net
Well, now we've got something to work with, huh? Let's flood these poor
bastards with hate-mail and choke the servers. That ought to do it,
right? Well, maybe not, but it'll be an awful lot of fun!
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"@'/ ,. \`@" cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@"
/_| \__/ |_\ d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\
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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 13:53:01 +1000 (EST)
From: Evan Thomson <930377@bud.cc.swin.edu.au>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: AUSTRALIA - here he comes!!!!!
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960426134429.24418D-100000@bud.cc.swin.edu.au>
Howdy all,
Well, I thought I'd never see it, but a Dream Theater member is actually
setting foot in the Southern Hemisphere, namely Australia, and most
importantly: Melbourne.
Mike Portnoy is coming here on the 15/16 of June, with his drum clinic.
He will be at the "Drummers Weekend", whatever the hell that is, I'm a
guitarist by trade...
Anyway, I read this in Beat magazine (24/4/96).
Also, the DT cover band some of you heard about "Theater of Dreams" are
so good (so Mike has heard) that he is considering playing a show with them!
Woohoo!
Virgil Donati, the drummer is overseas I think, so Mike might be filling
in...
Melbourne viewers, I will keep you posted if I find out more details.
Evan Thomson
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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 00:03:52 -0700
From: cathexis@acmenet.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: M. Portnoy interview -- you ask the questions!
Message-ID: <31807558.6AA4@acmenet.net>
Hi, fellow 'jammers -
The new monthly music newsletter I edit, AU CONTRAIRE, will soon be
interviewing Mike Portnoy for a feature article. In preparing for the interview,
it occurred to me that given the abnormally high level of devotion and, dare I
say, *sophistication*, of the average YTSE Jammer/DT fan, it would be a great
idea to let some of *you* ask questions of the Prolific Pounder himself.
Therefore, if you have any questions for Mike Portnoy -- about DT, Mike, or
whatever -- send them to AU CONTRAIRE at aucon@acmenet.net. We will take
the best questions and put Mr. Portnoy to task. (You can assume that all
the basics -- "new CD - when?", "touring in support?" -- will be covered.
So be unique!) For sanity's sake, we MUST receive the Mike Inquiries by
Sunday, April 28 at 10:00am EST! (I know, I know, short notice!) I suspect
that we'll still get lots of great questions.
I look forward to hearing from you!
J.D. Barba
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Incidentally, in case you missed our first round of announcements, here is a
blurb on AU CONTRAIRE -- the new monthly music newsletter devoted to
"progressive music of *all* kinds"...
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My name is J.D. Barba. I edit the brand new music newsletter "AU CONTRAIRE".
AU CONTRAIRE covers of a broad range of artists who matter (e.g. Yes, Rush,
Marillion, nine inch nails, Mike Keneally, P-Funk, Living Colour, Soundgarden,
King's X, Yes, Dream Theater, Dennis Chambers, Styx, Genesis, Stevie Ray Vaughn,
Kansas, Porno for Pyros, Rage Against The Machine, Tony Williams, John Scofield,
Kate Bush, Steve Morse and more).
AU CONTRAIRE provides music news, CD release dates, Internet resources,
artist features, instrument spotlights and more. We consider music fan and
musician alike. I think you will find AU CONTRAIRE to be both interesting and
informative.
The subscription price is $5.00 US per year ($7.50 Canada, $10.00
international). However, we are offering a free four month introductory subscription.
If you are interested, please send me your US Post mailing address (and any questions)
at aucon@acmenet.net and I will send you the inaugural issue and subscription info
PRONTO via first class mail. THANKS for your interest!
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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 01:10:01 -0400
From: BigDTFan@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: End of Jam Wars
Message-ID: <960426010959_383133389@emout15.mail.aol.com>
Okay, this is getting out of hand. A YtseSpammer got the end of Ytsejam
Digest 1481!!!!!
BTW, I can't wait till I ditch AOL.
Elliott Kim, The Ytsejammer Formerly Known As ekim01@fiu.edu
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 22:11:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: I'm a Connecticutician..sorta
Message-ID: <199604260511.AA18197@crl10.crl.com>
To the Jammer who asked about CT, we lived in Monroe, CT (north of
Trumbull, north of Bridgeport) for about ten years ending in 1978. I
still have many pleasant memories of the place and would like to visit
someday.
Oh, no! The return of the magazine spam from Hell! Run! Flee!
Escape!
To the Jammer who posted something about Angra recently (regarding its
connection to some dark angel type thing), thanks! I'd posted a query
about the band name about a month ago, and even though you weren't
answering ME, you still gave me some more info -- which, BTW, jibes
with where I saw the name "Angra" (in an incantation in a
fantasy/horror book).
Anyone out there ever read anything by British SF/fantasy/horror
author Storm Constantine? :)
-- +--- Paul W. Cashman vanyel@crl.com http://www.crl.com/~vanyel ---+ | Rush * Robert Jordan * Bonedance * Michael Moorcock * Metallica | | James P. Hogan * Dream Theater * Robert Heinlein * NIN * Dead | | Can Dance * Mercedes Lackey * Mutha's Day Out * Raymond Feist....|------------------------------
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 01:30:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: VERY IMPORTANT - READ NOW Message-ID: <199604260530.BAA07562@wicked.stigmata.org>
Sup all in YtseLand .....
I was on irc tonight talking to Ibanez and he said that John said at the clinic in Ohio that DT has 20 songs. Yes, 20. He said that they want to release them all but the only way to do it would be a double-cd. We, the Internet Community of Jammers, must lend our hand to DT again. We got ACOS recorded in the studio, so why not, get DT a double CD?
Here is the deal....
First: go to
http://www.dreamt.org/dt2disc.html
and add your name to the petition I am getting together. I will write the actual petition later, but it will basically say "WE WANT A DT DOUBLE CD!"
Second: Send letters to EastWest. Their address (according to ACOS) is:
Eastwest Records America Division of Atlantic Recording Corporation 75 Rockefeller Plaza New York, NY 10019
Third:
PRAY :)
Skadz
-- +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ | Ryan P Skadberg skadz@mindstorm.com | | s y s t e m . a d m i n i s t r a t o r / w e b . d e v e l o p e r | | http://www.bluesky.net/skadz/ http://www.dreamt.org/ | +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ \ "And every prayer we pray at night has somehow lost its meaning" / \ "Dead Winter Dead" - Savatage / +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+
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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 01:59:28 -0400 From: szucseue@saber.udayton.edu To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Tempest Message-ID: <96042601592573@saber.udayton.edu>
I was just down at the neighborhood Denny's having a fine belated dinner at about two this morning, when these grubby guys sat next down to me and started talking about a show they had just done at a neighborhood club. I started talking to them and found out that they are a Celtic progressive rock band called Tempest, and they are on the Magna Carta label. They were pretty darn cool and we all talked for a better part of an hour (being a fellow musician helped strem the conversation along), and I am looking forward to hearing some of their material. Does anyone know about these guys? Oh, and just to have some relative content to this post, they are all DT fans!
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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 03:05:31 -0300 From: Daniel McCormack <dmc@dreamt.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1477 Message-ID: <318067AB.6B21@dreamt.org>
> From: borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk> > Subject: Various Replies > > DMC wrote: > > how about one (or some) of the L.I. area Jammers offer DT to help get them > > set up on the Net? > > Don't DT have better things to do, like, um, Record an Album, and Tour the > World?
Well, yeah, but, um, ah, OK, you win. :)
> If I was cool, and in a cool band, I'd be spending all my time playing > sell-out gigs and misbehaving with the groupies. I would NOT be sitting here > staring at a computer screen . . . :-)
So that's where i screwed up! I was misbehaving at the computer screen and staring at the groupies! :)
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> From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net> > Subject: Rhyme time. > > >But still... I don't like Hootie so you can chill :) > > > >Hey that rhymed:) > > Not really....only if you say the second part real fast. Like: > > But still...IdonliehoosoyucaCHILL.
Haven't you learned anything from being a DT fan? It would fit evenly in a 17/8 (6/8 + 11/8) time signature... Or maybe 23/8 (12/8 + 11/8)... :)
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> From: kurt@fgallery.com > Subject: Dt songs made into sentences > > The silent man is learning to live under a glass moon with the ones who > help to set the sun ,in only a matter of time he will be surrounded and > caught in a web.
..caught in a web, his innocence faded by the lie reflected from the mirror, which he stares at until he witnesses today become another day and finally, after a change of seasons, he is able to read the label printed in reverse on his M-80: "Light Fuse and Get Away." It only goes to show you, if you have a lot of mirrors, you can eventually get a fortune in lies, which, under the guidance of the voices, can be sold to status seekers who are doubly suffering from both erotomania and paranoia; they believe a killing hand is lifting shadows off thir dreams, only to find themselves awake and institutionalized, wearing a new version of the straight jacket, the space dye vest, endlessly repeating the word, "Ytsejam."
No, I don't have my CDs with me at the time... :) YKYADTFW...
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> From: kretschmer@bdt.com (Jon Kretschmer) > Subject: WDADU on the net? > > I figure I should get WDADU now that it has been reissued, just in case my > current copy gets fucked...
Speaking of which... my Japanese-bought verion of WDADU is scratched - on track 6 (Light Fuse)! Ah, screw!
> Anyone have a good Internet supplier of CDs that > has this puppy in stock that wont charge me a kidney to get?
pass this info along to me too please... Gotta get a new one.
> Thanks.
Yeah, me too.
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> From: "D_TiCian" <s7700020@singnet.com.sg> > Subject: (Fwd) Subject (ndtc + some dtc) > > ____________dtc__________________ > Any1 notice how 'Only a matter of time' rulez?
Yeah, I noticed. I wonder why that is? Kind of weird. :)
Later, -DMC-
--
Daniel McCormack dmc@dreamt.org or emc@caribe.net http://premium.caribe.net/~emc/dan.html
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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 00:38:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Buzz Of The Day Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.92a.960425234827.30388H-100000@homer18.u.washington.edu>
Relativity - (noun) interdependence.
Interdependent - (adjective) dependent on one another.
Some of you may already know this, some of you have already posted about this, and I think some of you may be a bit ticked about this, but I'm going to mention it again because it hit me for the first time last night.
So I'm walking through Top Foods (wholesale monster-food warehouse of the Northwest) last night, and see "Paul Gilbert's Big Return" on the front of "Guitar" magazine. I don't subscribe to this magazine, and the only one I ever read is "Guitar World" for Petrucci's column. When did "Guitar For The Practicing Musician" become just "Guitar?" I laughed when I saw this "new" title (eh, so I'm a little behind the times, so what), as I found it to be a rather darkly humorous, somewhat appropriate change considering the present state of guitar music.
Heard in my mind: "We at GFTPM regret to inform you that there are no more Practicing Musicians. As a result of this, we can no longer make a Guitar magazine For The Practicing Musician as they are extinct. Thus we are changing our title."
Anyway, I bought the magazine and promptly read the article when I got home. Once again I was reminded, by Gilbert's recounting of his travels through Japan, how much more-respected musicians like Mr. Big are overseas. I'm flipping back to the table of contents to see what else is up this month, when I stumbled upon a picture of a black guy with a New York hat, yellow flannel shirt, and baggy pants kicking an orange Fender-looking guitar (with a monkey grip, as if anyone other than Steve Vai with his Ibanezes ever used them) out a doorway with a welcome mat. The words on the window of the door read "Relativity Records." Here's what the article said: (skip if you're already aware of all this)
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No Longer Relative
Relativity Records, known affectionately as "The House That Steve and Joe Built" has decided to get out of the rock and roll business. The label, which over the past decade was home to such guitar luminaries as Steve Vai, Joe Satriani, Steve Howe, Adrian Legg, Peter Frampton, and Warren Haynes, wil now focus exclusively on (gulp!) rap music. Oh, wait, they call it "urban." Featured on the new roster are such bastions of guitar greatness as Bone, Thugs, and Harmony and the catalog of deceased rapper Eazy-E. While Howe, Frampton, and Legg had already left Relativity, the remaining, higher-profile acts are slated to go to other divisions within Sony Music, which owns Relativity. As of press time, Joe Satriani is going to Epic Records (which had wanted him to record an album with a vocalist and a band a few years back), Steve Vai is possibly headed to Sony's 550 label, and Warren Haynes' Gov't Mule band is up for grabs. Lesser known Relativity acts, like Paradise Lost (see this month's profile), Lucy's Fur Coat, Edsel, and Alligator Gun are all trying to find new homes within the Sony stable.
If this isn't a perfect example of the sad state of guitar instrumental music in the mid 1990s, we don't know what is. --HPN
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Wow.
I'm so pissed off about this that I'm not even gonna will this post to appear at the end of this digest. (but it just might due the intense amount of kinetic energy washing off of my fingers and onto the keyboard) All I can figure is that someone (a guitar-lover) of high importance at Relativity died, leaving second-in-command to finally overhaul the label with material he thought was more worthy. Any other ideas?
You know, after a decade of such loyal musical solidarity, the kind that most other labels usually aren't strong enough to possess, I never would have imagined the big R switching sides. Relativity Records was the last record label on Earth I ever thought I'd be calling a bunch of sellouts, but this sort of spinelessness is what surpasses pity in my book and goes straight to disgust. So with all the eloquence I can muster,
GO TO HELL, YOU FUCKING SELLOUTS.
Do not pass Go, do not collect $200...wait, someone already posted that...
"Et tu, Brute?" --Caesar
Bafu Vai
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