YTSEJAM digest 1481

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Thu Apr 25 1996 - 22:21:07 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 1481

    Today's Topics:

      1) DreamN about clinics
     by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
      2) Re: conn jammers
     by "Scott L. Vanek" <svanek@gnu.uvm.edu>
      3) Mail Item Format Warning
     by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/26/96 - 00:06:33" <response@ibmmail.com>
      4) Re: John Petrucci clinic!!!
     by Gilbert Jack Thetgyi <thetgyi@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
      5) Re: Alternative...
     by Doug Cronkhite <dougc@cerf.net>
      6) Koeien!!!!!!!
     by ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero )
      7) Re: WDADU
     by blane@nla.gov.au
      8) Re: WDADU
     by Doug Cronkhite <dougc@cerf.net>
      9) Re: WDADU on the net?
     by Nate Bradley <nbradley@vision.d.umn.edu>
     10) Helloween
     by Rudy van IJzendoorn <rudy.van.ijzendoorn@tip.nl>
     11) Re: Something you might want to know!
     by Nate Bradley <nbradley@vision.d.umn.edu>
     12) Crimson Glory
     by Nathan Bradley~ <nbradley@sedona.intel.com>
     13) Savatage Tour Dates (Europe and Japan)
     by Nathan Bradley~ <nbradley@sedona.intel.com>
     14) WDADU not DT?
     by Ed Reed <ereed@comp.uark.edu>
     15) Fantastic Free Offer I found on the net
     by Lewisarons@aol.com

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    Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 19:03:57 -0400 (EDT)
    From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
    To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: DreamN about clinics
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9604251950.B2203-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>

    > From: DreamNDay@aol.com
    > Subject: I'm back

    Uh oh :)

    > Also, i'm going to see John P.'s clinic on Saturday. Anyone else going? If so
    > e-mail me privately. I'll be wearing my Ytse-Conn shirt.

    WHAT? WHERE? Jeez, man! How come nobody posts about these things
    anymore???

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    Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 19:04:57 -0400 (EDT)
    From: "Scott L. Vanek" <svanek@gnu.uvm.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: conn jammers
    Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.960425190307.26440B@gnu.uvm.edu>

    Greetings!!!

    I go to school in Vermont, but i am from Manchester, CT. I like CT better
    than VT though. Ill be in CT this summer. Anyone know of any good
    Concerts in the area this summer?

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            University Of Vermont ****
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    Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 19:05:14 EDT
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    Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 18:41:06 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Gilbert Jack Thetgyi <thetgyi@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: John Petrucci clinic!!!
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9604251806.A3195-0100000@bgnet2.bgsu.edu>

    On Thu, 25 Apr 1996 rbarker@epix.net wrote:

    > 1. thankyou Jack Thetgyi. I forgot to ask you if you wanted
    > any money for the pictures you took for me with JP. Mail me
    > and let me know. I would also like a copy of the picture we
    > had the Ibanez rep. take of you, me, and the other two guys
    > with Jp. I'm not good with names:)

    You're more than welcome. Don't worry about the pictures, I'll send them
    to you as soon as the film is developed.

    > I asked him about the band coming to Ytsecon III. Well, John basically
    > looked right at me and said, "We know nothing about this. No one has said
    > anything to us at all. What are you talking about?"...If you don't
    > believe me, ask Jack Thetgyi. He > overheard the entire conversation.
    >
    > Robert Barker(Ibanez)

            I hate to say it but Ibanez (Robert) is right. My immediate reaction
    was "huh?" because the main incentive for me to drive 10-12 hours (in the
    middle of what will be a hectic semester) is to meet the band. If any
    Ytse-Con III organizers can clarify, please do so!
            I asked JP if he wanted me to relay anything to the 'Jam: he
    really couldn't think of anything, so I suggested, "Working hard?" He
    replied, "Yeah, we are, actually...tell them that" In addition to
    getting my picture taken with him (wearing my Tom Servo t-shirt, of
    course), he signed my Awake studio poster and the fold-out poster from
    GFTPM way back when I&W had won a lot of awards in the readers' poll.
            JP is a class act. He's the man! Don't worry Gandalf, you're
    still the man too, y'know, it's JP! I also won an Ibanez t-shirt: it's
    weird, at the Adrian Legg clinic I won a t-shirt there too. I want to
    win a guitar, gosh darnit!
            One more thing, it was a pleasure to meet you, GHS Rocker.
    You're the first 'Jammer I met, and it was a cool experience. I hope you
    can make it to Chicago. And Ibanez, I'll see you at the Con, hopefully
    with the band. Now it's back to studying for finals.

                                                            Stringcerely,

                                                            G. Jack Thetgyi

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    Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 16:06:14 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Doug Cronkhite <dougc@cerf.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Alternative...
    Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960425160358.4339B-100000@staff.cerf.net>

    > but... DON'T MISTAKE LACK OF TALENT FOR GENIUS.

    Corey corey corey... bad boy for quoting Type-O-Negative.

    anyway, I don't really care for many of the alternative bands out there..
    but some of them must have some ability..

    Doug Cronkhite

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    Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 16:10:17 -0700
    From: ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero )
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Koeien!!!!!!!
    Message-ID: <199604252310.QAA00811@dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com>

    >So, Behave yourself, Corey, or I'll have BEER jump off my sisters
    >birthdaycake and /kick your ass off the Jam ! ;-)
    >(did you like that one, Rip? Hehe! Tell them about the 'Koeien')

    Mijn koe kan jou koeien met augurken in elkaar slaan!

    thats one for all the dutch jammers out there :)
        
        ~Rip

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    Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 09:16:38 +0000
    From: blane@nla.gov.au
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: WDADU
    Message-ID: <199604252322.JAA33079@email.nla.gov.au>

    > I would argue though, that for all intents and purposes, WDaDU
    >doesn't really sound like Dream Theater. There is a *huge* progression
    >between WDaDU and I&W, but in my opinion When Dream and Day Unite just
    >kicks so much butt too if you don't try to compare it straight to I&W or
    >Awake.

    I have to agree here that WDADU is an awsome album, in its own right,
    packed with some killer songs. I can't complain about the production
    quality cuz I can JM so much better on WDADU than on any other album,
    and being a bass player that rox.

    Brett: ytse-oz

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    Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 16:28:14 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Doug Cronkhite <dougc@cerf.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: WDADU
    Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960425162723.4488A-100000@staff.cerf.net>

    > I have to agree here that WDADU is an awsome album, in its own right,
    > packed with some killer songs. I can't complain about the production
    > quality cuz I can JM so much better on WDADU than on any other album,
    > and being a bass player that rox.

    Yes but... Being a guitar player.. I can't hear JP hardly at all !!! his
    sound is so buried for most of the CD that someday I would hope they'd
    remix it !!

    Doug Cronhhite

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    Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 18:52:51 -0500 (CDT)
    From: Nate Bradley <nbradley@vision.d.umn.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: WDADU on the net?
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9604251841.A12783-0100000@vision.d.umn.edu>

    Jon,

    If you have a Best Buy in your area they should have the reissue in
    stock. I picked mine up for $8.99. As for Internet suppliers I'd try
    Alta Mira at AMCYBER@aol.com or (603) 482-3412. I have don't quite abit
    of business with these guys (esp. Neil) and have been completely satisfied.

    later,
    Nathan Bradley

    On Wed, 24 Apr 1996, Jon Kretschmer wrote:

    > I figure I should get WDADU now that it has been reissued, just in case my
    > current copy gets fucked...Anyone have a good Internet supplier of CDs that
    > has this puppy in stock that wont charge me a kidney to get?
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > Jon
    >
    >
    >

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    Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 02:06:15 +-200
    From: Rudy van IJzendoorn <rudy.van.ijzendoorn@tip.nl>
    To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Helloween
    Message-ID: <01BB3315.2349F5C0@utrecht17.pop.tip.nl>

    Cool fellow-jammers,

    On digest 1479 someone asked about whether he should buy Helloween's
    Master of the Rings. IT SUCKS! They have a new vocalist since Michael
    left the band. I used to be a big fan of Helloween, but now they really =
    suck.

    Kai Hansen should leave Gamma Ray and return to Helloween for good =
    time's
    sake.

    The album I can advise you to buy is Walls of Jericho. It's speedy and =
    has some
    great songs like: How Many Tears and Guardians. Also a great buy would =
    be
    the Helloween EP called ... Helloween! It has the all time Helloween =
    classic=20
    Victim of Fate on it as well as Starlight. (Both albums have Kai Hansen =
    on vocals) And of course Keeper Of The Seven Keys - part one and two. =
    (has
    Michael (I forgot his last name hehehehe, should look it up on one of my =
    cd's)
    on vocals) Oh yeah, and also there is this single-cd with a track called =
    Judas
    also a great song! (in fact, I stole my nickname from that track, heh =
    heh heh)

    Yups, IMO Helloween WAS a great band, but now they definetely suck.

    To change the subject to some DTC. Who agrees with me that John Cyriis =
    (Agent Steel) and CD are the same person? CMon now, they MUST be!
    Anyway, just had LatM in my CD player, and I think that JL singing The =
    Killing
    Hand does it a world of good! What a great song that is with the =
    keyboard intro
    and all. (The LatM version!)

    Nuffin' else to say ..... so I'll better shut the f$#k up before I start =
    mumbling.

    Rudy

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                                  'Bathing your soul in silver tears'
                                'Beneath a blackened summer sky'
                                    'Praying for time to disappear'
                                             (Dream Theater)

                                     Rudy 'U-dAZ' van IJzendoorn=20
                      (judas@dreamt.org - rudy.van.ijzendoorn@tip.nl)
                       The Unofficial Dutch Dream Theater Homepage
                        ---->> http://www1.tip.nl/users/t198275 <<----
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    Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 19:13:59 -0500 (CDT)
    From: Nate Bradley <nbradley@vision.d.umn.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Something you might want to know!
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9604251919.A12783-0100000@vision.d.umn.edu>

    On Thu, 25 Apr 1996, Aladdin wrote:

    > Dear jammers,
    >
    > Hey there! I just found out a bit of information that you fellow Long
    > Island jammers might want to know! Derek Sherinian is playing a gig with
    > Greg Smith and Al (forgot his name) at a local Long Island club! The gig
    > will be at the Peoples Bar and Grill, and there's no cover charge. It's
    > off Jericho Turnpike on Cuba Hill Rd., and the gig will be on May 10th
    > (Friday). He said that it'd be really cool to meet some ytsejammers
    > there, so if you can go to it, then it'd be really cool! I'm probably
    > gonna go, so hope to see some of you there!

    Would that be Al Pitrelli? I know he lives in that area and he wouldn't
    be going to Europe until later in May. I will post the Savatage tour
    dates later tonite. This should be a cool show. Too bad I am in AZ!!!

    later,

    Nathan Bradley

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    Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 18:03:18 -0700 (MST)
    From: Nathan Bradley~ <nbradley@sedona.intel.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Crimson Glory
    Message-ID: <9604260103.AA18086@knicks.ch.intel.com.ch.intel.com>

    Jammers,

    A few months a go I picked up Crimson Glory's "Strange and Beautiful" on tape
    and I must say it was really good. (However I loaned it to Mike Bahr two
    months ago and haven't seen it since ;-) -- Mike is it really that good? )

    This last weekend I picked up their self titled release and "Transendance"
    both of which are also excellent!!! Now I just need to find "Strange and
    Beautiful" on CD....

    For those of you who are familar with Sanctuary it is sort of Sanctuary
    Lite... not quite as heavy and rough Crismon Glory is more polished.

    Just thought I would pass this on for any one looking for some new (well new
    to me) music.

    later,

    Nathan Bradley
    nbradley@vision.d.umn.edu

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    Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 17:54:22 -0700 (MST)
    From: Nathan Bradley~ <nbradley@sedona.intel.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Savatage Tour Dates (Europe and Japan)
    Message-ID: <9604260054.AA17910@knicks.ch.intel.com.ch.intel.com>

    Jammers,

    Now that the tour dates I have firmed up a bit here they are.
    Savatage is hitting most of the major music festivals on this tour.

    Savatage European and Japanese Tour Dates
    ------------------------------------------------
    Month Day City Country
    May 25 Eindhoven Holland
    May 27 Starsbourg France
    May 28 Paris France
    May 29 Nancy France
    May 30 Lyon France
    May 31 Pau France
    June 2 Saarbrucken Germany
    June 4 Milano Italy
    June 5 Pratteln Switzerland
    June 6 Heilbron Germany
    June 7 Offenbach Germany
    June 8 Berlin Germany
    June 9 Oberhausen Germany
    June 13 Tokoyo Japan
    June 14 Tokoyo Japan
    June 15 Osaka Japan
    ------------------------------------------------

    later,

    Nathan Bradley
    nbradley@vision.d.umn.edu

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    Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 20:23:37 -0500 (CDT)
    From: Ed Reed <ereed@comp.uark.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: WDADU not DT?
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960425201333.13839A-100000@comp.uark.edu>

    > From: Cornholio <hiw100@psu.edu>
    >
    > Whaddaya mean it is not really DT's sound in comparison with I&W? The on
    > ly difference is the singer. James is much better, yes. Charlie did a
    > great job on WDADU. Sure, he is not the greatest and james does the songs
    > better. However, we are off the point. Point is that WDADU and I&W were
    > pretty much written at the same time. Way back in the late 80's. Both
    > those albums are some of their best stuff and I am hoping that the stuff on
    > the new album will be in that style. I have heard that showdown will be
    > and that has WDADU/I&W written all over it. Try listening again and
    > tune out the vox and just listen to the music.

    Okay, let me go ahead and clarify what I meant when I said that compared
    to I&W, WDADU doesn't really sound much like Dream Theater. First off,
    When Dream and Day Unite kicks *serious* ass... you just gotta give it a
    listen. I even halfway like Chuckie D's voice on a lot of the stuff
    (heresy, I know)...

    Go back and listen to the two albums though... there is a *huge*
    difference in the two, IMO. The basic DT elements are definitely
    apparent on WDADU, but it's just a totally different focus really.
    Different vocals, different production, different lyrical styles,
    different song structures. I can definitely see a change in the overall
    feel of their music-writing, just as in between I&W and Awake. This is a
    good thing of course, cause we wouldn't really want 5 albums full of
    'Pull Me Under' clones or whatever. Change is good...

    If you don't think there is that big a difference between the two just
    consider this scenario: do you think it is possible for someone to love
    WDADU and not care much for I&W, or vice versa? I say yes... maybe not
    to the point of loving one album and hating the other, but to some degree.

    DrX -- aka Death

    PS. I hope I've clarified a little bit what I meant... obviously both
    of them are DT, they just have different feelings to them... Try this
    sometime: compare Operation: Mindcrime to Empire... same band, two
    fairly different sounding albums.

    /-------------------------------------------------------------------------\
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    | I'm gonna take away the questions, yeah I'm gonna make you sure. |
    I========Queensryche - Operation: Mindcrime===============================I
    | | ereed@comp.uark.edu |
    | I'm the new messiah, Death Angel with a gun. | drx@reich.uark.edu |
    | Dangerous in my silence, deadly to my cause. | ehr@engr.uark.edu |
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    Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 21:13:05 -0400
    From: Lewisarons@aol.com
    To: internet.announcement.service@r1.f64.n8769.z303.fidonet.org
    Subject: Fantastic Free Offer I found on the net
    Message-ID: <960425211305_382941766@emout19.mail.aol.com>

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    Hi fellow 'netters,

    My name is Lewis Arons and I recently started using a magazine subscription
    club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription deal with your
    first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them. They have over
    1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country on a
    subscription basis. As for computer magazines from the USA, they more of a
    selection than I ever knew even existed. They have magazines for most every
    area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles.

    Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their
    competitors and even the publishers themselves. This is their price
    guarantee.

    Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half of
    what the newsstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines. On some
    titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge. They
    feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas. In the USA, people buy
    magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes or
    hours. They are so cheap in the USA! Well, this company would like to make
    it the same way for their overseas members. They are also cheaper than all
    their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the publishers
    themselves! This is their price guarantee. Around one-half their business
    comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new members who only speak
    limited English as a 2nd language.

    Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and
    cut-out all the middlemen.

    They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey)
    !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the
    freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories
    and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell.

    Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student. I
    don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my
    part-time software business! Please fill out the above form and carefully
    follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail.

    They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are less
    than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other times,
    just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet. They
    assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it.

    They have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as I
    haved moved from one country to another.

    They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from a
    special list of over 295 popular titles published in the USA. They will
    give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them
    to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular
    USA titles they sell.

    They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have
    clients in around 45 or 46 countries now. Outside the USA there is a charge
    for FPH (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie subs) that
    varies from magazine to magazine. I have found their staff to be very
    friendly and courteous. They even helped me with an address change when I
    moved from one country to another.
     
    The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members"
    (even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase
    automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts
    as a new member. When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls you
    personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes he has
    one of his assistants call. He is kind of quirky sometimes - he insists on
    setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I sure wouldn't
    want to have his phone bills!), but you can place future orders (after your
    first order) via E-mail.

    He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know
    just as much as he does about this magazine stuff. If you live overseas, he
    will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he still
    makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long distance
    rates are cheaper then.

    He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing
    members and he does virtually no advertising. When I got set-up, they had a
    2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they could
    join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately when you
    call. ) I think they are able to get back to prospective new members the
    same day or within a few days now, as they have increased their staff. I am
    not sure about this.........but if you email the above form to them, that is
    the way to get started!

    They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey)
    !)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the
    freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories
    and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell.

    They then send you email that outlines how his club works and the list of
    free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what he
    sells; and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly,
    no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and
    answer all your questions.

    Once you get in, you'll love them. I do.

    Sincerely,

    Lewis Arons

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