YTSEJAM Digest 1786
Today's Topics:
1) Autoreply Message
by svjohnson@amoco.com
2) Metropolis II
by kurt@fgallery.com
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1784
by babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia)
4) Re: RUSH bashing
by skooc@earthlink.net
5) Jam post
by Stan <sstys@earthlink.net>
6) Oh NO!!
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
7) Re: Stabbing Westward
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
8) Re: Kevin Moore demo
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
9) targets
by Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
10) street crossings
by Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
11) Japan and Awake.
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
12) Rush
by "Chris Ptacek" <someone@enteract.com>
13) please, #jammers read this
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
14) Oh NO!!
by kurt@fgallery.com
15) Re: Tales from the Crypt
by Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
16) AND the WINNER IS..............................
by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
17) AND the WINNER IS..............................
by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
18) AND the WINNER IS..............................
by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
19) Spocks Beard? Que esta!
by Mike Skoog <mskoog@raven.phs.com>
20) message returned, spod over quota
by Carson McCullers (1917-1967) <root@carson.u.washington.edu>
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 96 14:28:46 -0500
From: svjohnson@amoco.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Autoreply Message
Message-ID: <199608301929.AA26145@interlock.amoco.com>
Item Subject: Auto Reply content.
I will be on vacation until Monday, September 9. On the 9th
and 10th I will be on official business. If it is urgent,
please contact Neil Geary at (312) 856-5373. I will be
returning calls/messages on Wednesday, September 11.
Steve
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 15:35:36 -0400
From: kurt@fgallery.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Metropolis II
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.8.30.15.35.36.2916992174.334493@bbs.fgallery.com>
YT>Good evening,
YT>>Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 01:03:38 -0500
YT>>From: Scotch <anthem@virginia.edu>
YT>>And come on, you silly Jammers... Metropolis Part 2 is THE WHOLE ALBUM!! A
YT>>78-minute song, just divided up into separately titled indexed sections for
YT>>Convenient Listening. Duh!
YT> Jesus!! He could be onto something here. What if Met II is
YT>Disc 2!!! A 40+ minute epic!!!
YT> Mike Bahr!!!! Call Portnoy NOW and find out what the hell is
YT>going on!! ;)
YT>Cheers,
YT>Rick
YT>Toront
If they can pull off 40 min without it getting boring well ...what am i
doing..am i actually doubting DT? nah!
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 15:44:10 -0500 (EST)
From: babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1784
Message-ID: <v01510102ae4cbbe3b4e0@[137.238.26.12]>
> Sounds cool. Can we do it in bare feet like Mike "McCartney"
>Portnoy? ;)
Do WHAT in bare feet? Oh yeah - cross the road, sure we can do that. I
had better double-check and see that I'm up to date on a tetanus shot
before attempting to do so (laugh).
> Fear Not BABS! Just use the walkway that goes OVER the GCP, right
>to the
> Hotel...
OK, now since I am "Nell from the Woods" so to speak - what does GCP stand
for???
>> Boy Scouts are actually fairly low on the point scale, though.
>
> Not true! From what i have found, they are pretty rare in the City...
>
>> You want points, you have to go for cats and walkers.
>
> Don't forget people on bikes! (My Personal Favorite)
Oh man - this thread is getting sick. Remember pedestrians have the right
of way everyone (giggle). I work at a college though and there's a few
students that like to challenge our carpool everyday - how many points are
they worth??????? (Laugh).
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 12:44:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: skooc@earthlink.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: RUSH bashing
Message-ID: <199608301944.MAA18835@cyprus.it.earthlink.net>
>I have been a RUSH fan since King Tut ruled Egypt. now, all this RUSH
bashing is really starting to get old and annoying.
Who'sbashing Rush? I happen to love Rush. That doesn't mean I have to agree
with everything they do. I happen to think what they're doing by giving
Magna Carta such a hassle over Working Man is really fucked and they should
be told that. Living in America I know what a pain in the ass it is to have
to get cd's and LP's from other countries because they weren't released here
(ie. Live at the Marquee) and so making Canadians have to get the CD's from
here and risk having them confiscated at the Post Office as contriband is
uncalled for an inexcuseable. Especially considering they ARE a Canadian
band and were popular there years before getting success in the rest of the
world.
>first and foremost, they have NOT sold out! they have EVOLVED.
That's your opinion and your entitled to it. My opinion is they sold out,
and I'll probably always feel that way. That said, I have EVERY Rush album
released and a few boots.
>you think RUSH'd still be around today at all if all they kept writing is 20
>minute epics? that would be selling out; just doing the same old thing that
>sold. all of those epics are great, i love them as well as the more recent
>stuff.
[snip]
>as Geddy was said, "it has become easy for us to write long complicated
>pieces of music, therefore, it pointless to do so...". it was more of a
>challenge for them to write shorter songs. and Neil's lyrics also got more
>concise.
I read an article about two years ago where Geddy said they didn't write
long songs anymore (ie Cygnus) because it was too draining on them.
Anyway. I love Rush and will go see them when they come to town. I'll get
the import vinyl of TFE since they won't make it on LP here in the States
(the last USA vinyl was Presto). But I rerally wish they would reconsider
their position on Working Man.
Scott
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 17:50:08 -0400
From: Stan <sstys@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Jam post
Message-ID: <32276210.D7C@earthlink.net>
> About the wait for a new album thing, I don't think we've had THAT long
> of a wait when compared with other bands. I mean, I have an overactive
> sense of anticipation, so it seems like it's been decades, but it's only
> been like, what, two years since Awake. ACOS did help my appetite a bit
> (as well as all those keen Mike Bahr discs :). And I agree that some
> bands can get away with this (i.e. Metallica, U2 (new album due out on
> Nov. for those of you who care), etc.), but for the most part, waiting,
> like, 5 years between albums would not seem to be the best idea for a
> band/performer. I figure that in DT's case, however, the wait (however
> long it will end up being) will be more than worth it. Cheers.
>
> Dale R. Newberry
Dale I agree, I mean ACOS was enough to keep me a dedicated listener,
and I firmly believe that DT aren't commercial enough to have to worry
about compramising the quality of their music to meet a timely release
date. Atrue fan should appreciate the fact that they are in this for
the music not the $$$$$. And yes, I don't think it's been that long
since the release of awake. I am a big time Metallica fan, Nothing
against them but LOAD is a sub-par attempt for them but then again they
have big-time commercial success now so anything they do is going to be
big. Keep Rockin'
Stan
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 18:01:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Oh NO!!
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960830175031.2432B-100000@bdmserver>
From: svjohnson@amoco.com
>To: ytsejam@ax.com
>Subject: Autoreply Message
>Message-ID: <199608301827.AA23711@interlock.amoco.com>
>please contact Neil Geary at (312) 856-5373. I will be =
>returning calls/messages on Wednesday, September 11.
What? We have to put up with this guy's autoreply messages until Septembe 11?
School is sure to be in session everywhere and everyone will be rejoining
the list and the number of jams will increase so we will see lots of this
guys messages over and over and over again...
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com |
|=======================================================================|
| "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater |
| "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files |
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
| Hail to the Redskins, Hail Victory!!!!!!!! 0-0 Victim 1:Eagles |
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
Go Orioles-Playoff bound in 1996!!!
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 18:05:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
Subject: Re: Stabbing Westward
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.960830180442.16109A-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
> >The show started right on time at 7:30 with opening act Stabbing Westward.
> >They are a Industrial/Gothic band in the Ministry vein. They played for :25
> >and wree really awesome. I'll have to make sure I see them when they hit the
> >Club Circuit.
> >*******
> >
> >Shit, only 25 minutes. I love this band. They are great, but I have yet
> to see them live. Their
> >new CD, Wither, Burn and Peel is awesome. Check it out.
> >
>
> I plan on it as soon as I can afford it. By the way Stabbing Westward WILL
> be going on tour! They are playing the Edge here in Palo Alto, CA on Sept.
> 15. Which reminds me, I gotta email my boss and get on the guest list.
>
> Later...
i have the album and it kicks much ass. i highly reccommend the stabbing
westward album.
syrinx.
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 18:09:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
To: CNG@tcco.com
Subject: Re: Kevin Moore demo
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.960830180821.16109C-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
> This is going to sound silly to most of you, but how can I get a Kevin Moore
> demo? All of the names listed as "Dub Sites" are not responding.
> Just wondering. Thanks
well, if you want one, you can ask me for them. just respond to this,
and i'll give you an address to send either a tape or cash (for a tape
and postage), and i'll make it for ya.
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 17:29:27 -0600
From: Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: targets
Message-ID: <32277957.4CC9@mo.net>
>Naaaah. Walkers are for amateurs. Runners are the real challenge :)
Come on, I'm sure you could do better than that. I personally go for
the bike messengers and skateboarders. They can be pretty elusive.
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 17:34:48 -0600
From: Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: street crossings
Message-ID: <32277A98.925@mo.net>
>Sounds cool. Can we do it in bare feet like Mike "McCartney" Portnoy? >;)
Yeah, we'd all need to be smoking cigarettes, too. :)
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 18:42:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
To: Yitz-see-jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Japan and Awake.
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.960830184135.27969A-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
Just to let you guys know, i orderded the Japaneese verion of
AWAKE about 10 minutes ago for about 40 dollars from Sounds City, 2000.
They're a cool place to order from, and i've been ordering from them for
about 3 years now. If you guys want the phone number, just lemme know,
and i'll give it to ya.
-----------------------------------------------
Michael B. Ostrich - musical advisor/consultant
email: syrinx@dreamt.org
syrinx@wicked.stigmata.org
syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu
"..when i look back on the past, it's a wonder i'm not yet
extinct. all the the mistakes and bad judgements i made nearly pushed me
to the brink. it doesn't pay to be too nice, it's the one thing i have
learned. still, i make my fossil bed, now i toss and turn."
- adrian belew.
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 17:48:21 +0000
From: "Chris Ptacek" <someone@enteract.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Rush
Message-ID: <199608302248.RAA09899@enteract.com>
> first and foremost, they have NOT sold out! they have EVOLVED. RUSH influenced
> the guys in Dream Theater, if they're good enough for DT, they should be good
> enough for us. DT started when, in the mid 80's, right? that was mid-80's RUSH
> time.
Call it what you want. I think it's more than a coincedence, the way
the music changed when the money came in. And I don't care if DT
LOVES Rush or even Gorky Park... that doesn't mean ANYTHING to me.
Friedman, one of my favorite guitarists loves Uli Roth.... whom I can't
STAND for the life of me because of his vocals (his playing is great).
Some people love Buddy Guy, and coming from Chicago, I think he
sucks. But that's my opinion. And just because it's good enough for
me, doesn't mean it's right for you. Just as DT's opinions are
pretty meaningless to one who makes his own mind up.
> this accounts
> for their big keyboard era of the '80's and now the move back to a more basic
> raw, aggressive sound which is prevalent today. either way, if you think they
> sold out or not,
This sounds like trend following to me. But I already said, I think
some of their best material occurred after the point at which I feel
they sold out.
> the fact remains that RUSH doesn't get the airplay they
> deserve. if you heard a RUSH song every hour, like a friggin' STP song, then
> they'd be a sellout, but you don't.
Really? Do you live in Chicago? I hear Rush CONSTANTLY on the
radio. Test for Echo IS being played once every hour as a gimick on
weekends on 103.5. I also frequently hear Rush on 105.9, the classic
rock station. I'd say in Chicago, in the evening, if you take a 1
hour car trip you have a 75% chance of being able to find Rush on the
radio. At least right now. I noted on the jam that i heard
Chronicles in it's entirety on one of the big stations about 3 weeks
ago.
But I will let this thread die, if this is getting too tense for you,
or is making you too mad. Don't perpetuate a thread if it bothers
you.
Chris Ptacek (312) 248-8511
EnterAct, L.L.C. Check www.cnet.com
someone@enteract.com for *YOUR* ISP Ratings!
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1985 18:21:43 -0500
From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: please, #jammers read this
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19850830232143.006a2a44@mail.inlink.com>
to all of the ircers... you may or may not be familiar with twinkieboy, but
this is a very very bad thing... i urge you to please check out the updated
site and gather yourself some info on this. i wont say anymore here, just
that i really hope all the chatters get a look at this site, not to plug
myself, cuz its not a page for me to show off my html skills or anything,
its a page to inform YOU. so like... get informed and stuff
http://www.inlink.com/~ripzero/twinkieboy/
~Rip
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 20:00:32 -0400
From: kurt@fgallery.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Oh NO!!
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.8.30.-12.0.32.2916992174.335233@bbs.fgallery.com>
YT>From: svjohnson@amoco.com
YT>>To: ytsejam@ax.com
YT>>Subject: Autoreply Message
YT>>Message-ID: <199608301827.AA23711@interlock.amoco.com>
YT>>please contact Neil Geary at (312) 856-5373. I will be =
YT>>returning calls/messages on Wednesday, September 11.
YT>What? We have to put up with this guy's autoreply messages until Septembe 11
YT>School is sure to be in session everywhere and everyone will be rejoining
YT>the list and the number of jams will increase so we will see lots of this
YT>guys messages over and over and over again...
YT>|-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
YT>| Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com |
YT>|=======================================================================|
YT>| "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater |
YT>| "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files |
YT>|-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
YT>| Hail to the Redskins, Hail Victory!!!!!!!! 0-0 Victim 1:Eagles |
YT>|-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
YT> Go Orioles-Playoff bound in 1996!!!
like someone said.. thank god this guy's not in ack mode..
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 21:09:31 -0600
From: Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Tales from the Crypt
Message-ID: <3227ACEB.772B@mo.net>
Hmm. I just saw Slash make a cameo appearance on Tales from the
Crypt. It's good to know he's finding work these days (just kidding,
don't flame me if you like GnR).
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 22:51:40 -0500
From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: AND the WINNER IS..............................
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.8.30.-10.51.40.6375.6528@clubmet.metrobbs.com>
***********8
THank you all for your orders for the NEW DT stickers. I hope you like
'em. YES, there are stickers available for instant shipout.
THE WINNER Of THE DT BOOT CD, "when a dream and today unite" is:
Jeff P. of ST louis haus@dreamt.org
CONgRATS.... (my keyboard is not working right)) I dont know whats
going on. Some caps do NOT work. )))
Take care,
if you have any other questions, feel free to ask.
todd s
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 22:52:10 -0500
From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: AND the WINNER IS..............................
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.8.30.-10.52.10.9428.9556@clubmet.metrobbs.com>
***********8
THank you all for your orders for the NEW DT stickers. I hope you like
'em. YES, there are stickers available for instant shipout.
THE WINNER Of THE DT BOOT CD, "when a dream and today unite" is:
Jeff P. of ST louis haus@dreamt.org
CONgRATS.... (my keyboard is not working right)) I dont know whats
going on. Some caps do NOT work. )))
Take care,
if you have any other questions, feel free to ask.
todd s
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 22:53:10 -0500
From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: AND the WINNER IS..............................
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.8.30.-10.53.10.18793.1963@clubmet.metrobbs.com>
***********8
THank you all for your orders for the NEW DT stickers. I hope you like
'em. YES, there are stickers available for instant shipout.
THE WINNER Of THE DT BOOT CD, "when a dream and today unite" is:
Jeff P. of ST louis haus@dreamt.org
CONgRATS.... (my keyboard is not working right)) I dont know whats
going on. Some caps do NOT work. )))
Take care,
if you have any other questions, feel free to ask.
todd s
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 20:56:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mike Skoog <mskoog@raven.phs.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Spocks Beard? Que esta!
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.960830205440.9099A-100000@raven.phs.com>
Does anyone know of a place to pick up spocks beard besides ordering the
cd directly from the band?
I dont really have a problem with that, but I really hate waiting! :)
(grumbles something about needing a prog. music store in so. cal)
Mike
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"Blind to our own transgressions
we've condoned this atrocity
the problem only multiplies
darkness begetting darkness."
- Solitude Aeturnus
"Together and Wither"
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 96 23:33:36 -0700
From: Carson McCullers (1917-1967) <root@carson.u.washington.edu>
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Subject: message returned, spod over quota
Message-ID: <9608310633.AA22873@carson.u.washington.edu>
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