YTSEJAM Digest 1784
Today's Topics:
1) Autoreply Message
by svjohnson@amoco.com
2) Uncovered
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
3) the usual crap!
by John McCabe <caber1@cris.com>
4) Unplugging Metallica (NON VH) (fwd)
by kurt@fgallery.com
5) Gary Cherone new Van Halen singer?
by kurt@fgallery.com
6)
by Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
7) the usual crap!
by kurt@fgallery.com
8) Uncovered
by kurt@fgallery.com
9) Re: Uncovered
by skooc@earthlink.net
10) Brazilian Monsters of Rock Reviwed
by "Marcelo Vanzin" <vanzin@infinity.com.br>
11) Stabbing Westward
by araby@ix.netcom.com
12) Damn I must be bored
by formalin@juno.com (Charone S. Frankel)
13) RE:UNCOVERED CD
by petedz@interaccess.com
14) Re: Uncovered
by kurt@fgallery.com
15) RR: YTSEJAM digest 1782
by emsGateway@wichita.fn.net
16) RR: YTSEJAM digest 1781
by emsGateway@wichita.fn.net
17) Metropolis II
by rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry)
18) Follow you, follow me, TRAITORS!?!?, Street crossing
by rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry)
19) Re: Stabbing Westward
by skooc@earthlink.net
20) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1783
by Majesty <majesty@li.net>
21) Rush
by zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 96 17:03:28 -0500
From: svjohnson@amoco.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Autoreply Message
Message-ID: <199608292203.AA07059@interlock.amoco.com>
Item Subject: Auto Reply content.
I will be on vacation until Monday, September 9. On the 9th
and 10th I will be on official business. If it is urgent,
please contact Neil Geary at (312) 856-5373. I will be
returning calls/messages on Wednesday, September 11.
Steve
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1985 17:18:21 -0500
From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Uncovered
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19850829221821.006a0f4c@mail.inlink.com>
>I have got Uncovered CD in westside of Shinjuku City in Tokyo where some import
>CD sotores had Uncovered. The price was 5,100 Japanese Yen. 1 US doller
stands >for 108 Yen.
thats a damn good price.... now if only some store in the USA would carry
it, because i dont know where to exchange for Yen!
~Rip
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 18:18:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: John McCabe <caber1@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: the usual crap!
Message-ID: <199608292218.SAA16124@beasley.cris.com>
I just d/l the pics D-Man has on his ftp server. And noticed
something which nobody else said about the People's Pub gig....Derek
was wearing the same thing at the JP clinic! We have to start buying
more ACoS CDs so Derek can buy some new clothes !-)
Also, about me adding the times for the tracks wrong, heheh, I
was just...er...testing to see...if you were paying attention... :)
Now about Met part 2, could whose who knew about it in the first
place, coughmikebahrcough, ask whoever you find out from if it is on the
CD as a subtitle. If it is going to be an EP or even on a B-side.
__________
John "A_Void" McCabe
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 18:22:46 -0400
From: kurt@fgallery.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Unplugging Metallica (NON VH) (fwd)
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.8.29.-14.22.46.2916992174.334309@bbs.fgallery.com>
YT>This was sent to me from the VH list. There are lots of Metallica fans here,
YT>so I decided to forward this over.
YT>>Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 15:07:50 -0400 (EDT)
YT>>To: vanhalen@lists.fdt.net
YT>>Subject: Unplugging Metallica (NON VH)
YT>>
YT>>For those of you who *might* be interested, this week's Kerrang states that
YT>>Metallica are strongly rumoured to be considering an offer from MTV to make
YT>>a surprise appearance later this year on their 'Unplugged' series.
YT>>
YT>>This sounds too strange to me.....Metallica don't have enough songs to play
YT>>them acoustically.
ok.. fade to black,unforgiven,nothing else matters, one (they can change
some stuff at the end) and a LOAD of the new crap they put out this
year.. (IMHO)
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 18:23:56 -0400
From: kurt@fgallery.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Gary Cherone new Van Halen singer?
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.8.29.-14.23.56.2916992174.334310@bbs.fgallery.com>
YT>This is the best move VH could make, anything is better than their first sin
YT>>---------- Forwarded message ----------
YT>>Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 09:59:54 -0400 (EDT)
YT>>To: vanhalen@lists.fdt.net
YT>>Subject: Boston Herald article
YT>>
YT>> GOING TO AN EXTREME
YT>> Don't breathe a word of this. Because no one's supposed to
YT>>know. But we hear Gary Cherone, late of Extreme, is winging his way
YT>>to La-La today to audition for Van Halen.
YT>> Word is David Lee Roth, who reunited with Eddie Van Halen
YT>>& Co. for two songs on the band's new greatest hits album, didn't
YT>>get the gig permanently.
YT>> Hence Gary's big try-out.
YT>> And it sounds to us like the Hudson hunk has a good shot
YT>>at heavy-metal superstardom. Because we hear he's bedding down at
YT>>the Van Halen homestead with Eddie and the lovely Valerie
YT>>Bertonelli all week!
YT>> Which must make Gary Jump for joy.
YT>>
Hey..i didnt know Cherone had left extreme..
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 17:32:37 -0500 (CDT)
From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
To: ThE NuGgeTjAm <ytsejam@ax.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.960829173112.1043A-100000@indy21.gclab.missouri.edu>
>From: svjohnson@amoco.com
>To: ytsejam@ax.com
>Subject: Autoreply Message
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
(RESPONSE at IBMMAIL, anyone?)
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 18:40:22 -0400
From: kurt@fgallery.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: the usual crap!
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.8.29.-14.40.22.2916992174.334323@bbs.fgallery.com>
YT> I just d/l the pics D-Man has on his ftp server. And noticed
YT>something which nobody else said about the People's Pub gig....Derek
YT>was wearing the same thing at the JP clinic! We have to start buying
YT>more ACoS CDs so Derek can buy some new clothes !-)
YT> Also, about me adding the times for the tracks wrong, heheh, I
YT>was just...er...testing to see...if you were paying attention... :)
YT> Now about Met part 2, could whose who knew about it in the first
YT>place, coughmikebahrcough, ask whoever you find out from if it is on the
YT>CD as a subtitle. If it is going to be an EP or even on a B-side.
YT>__________
YT>John "A_Void" McCabe
coughmikebahrcough <---- THAT RULED..
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 18:39:34 -0400
From: kurt@fgallery.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Uncovered
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.8.29.-14.39.34.2916992174.334322@bbs.fgallery.com>
YT>>I have got Uncovered CD in westside of Shinjuku City in Tokyo where some im
YT>>CD sotores had Uncovered. The price was 5,100 Japanese Yen. 1 US doller
YT>stands >for 108 Yen.
YT>thats a damn good price.... now if only some store in the USA would carry
YT>it, because i dont know where to exchange for Yen!
YT> ~Rip
Good price??? 47 bucks..? dunno if my math is correct..i divided 5100 in
108.. gave me 47.22 ...
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 16:07:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: skooc@earthlink.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Uncovered
Message-ID: <199608292307.QAA12680@greece.it.earthlink.net>
~Rip
>Good price??? 47 bucks..? dunno if my math is correct..i divided 5100 in
>108.. gave me 47.22 ...
For a 2CD bootleg that's very reasonable. Most of the stores here in No.
California that carry boots are around $50 for 2CD, so I see no problem with
this price.
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 18:53:21 -0300
From: "Marcelo Vanzin" <vanzin@infinity.com.br>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Brazilian Monsters of Rock Reviwed
Message-ID: <199608300011.RAA27940@mindcrime.ax.com>
Hey, last saturday we here got our Monsters of Rock! It was a pretty cool concert, despite some bands...
The first was a spanish band called "Heroes del Silencio", very bad in my opinion. Then in the sequence: Mercyful Fate (4th best performance), King Diamond (3rd) and Helloween (2nd). I didn't know much about these three bands, and now I want all their albuns ;). Then there was a brazilian band called Raimundos, which I hate (it's kind of a hardcore thing with some brazilian rhythms mixed). After them, Biohazard, another one that is far from beyong among my favorites.
So, it's Motorhead time. the sound was terrible, you could only hear the drums. Just in the average. Then, the worst of all, Skid Row. I don't want to talk about this crap.
Last but far from least, Iron Maiden. The best in the day. Played about 2h, and Blaze handled everything pretty well. Here goes the set list I can remember: Man on the Edge, Lord of the Flies, The Aftermath, Fortunes of War, Afraid to shoot Stragers, The Sign of the Cross, Fear of the Dark, The Clairvoyant, The Evil that men do, Heaven Can Wait, 2 minutes to midnight, Wrathchild, Iron Maiden, Sanctuary, Running Free, The Number of the Beast, Hallowed be thy name, The Trooper. Not in the right order.
That's it!
Ah, and tell those DT guys that if they don't come here in the next tour I'll go and kill them all with my own hands! ;)
--
[]'s
Marcelo Vanzin
mailto:vanzin@geocities.com
mailto:vanzin@infinity.com.br
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6308/index.html
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 17:34:36 -0700
From: araby@ix.netcom.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Stabbing Westward
Message-ID: <199682920325956334@ix.netcom.com>
******
The show started right on time at 7:30 with opening act Stabbing Westward.
They are a Industrial/Gothic band in the Ministry vein. They played for :25
and wree really awesome. I'll have to make sure I see them when they hit the
Club Circuit.
*******
Shit, only 25 minutes. I love this band. They are great, but I have yet to see them live. Their
new CD, Wither, Burn and Peel is awesome. Check it out.
Chambers
Still sigless
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 20:49:43 EDT
From: formalin@juno.com (Charone S. Frankel)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Damn I must be bored
Message-ID: <19960829.145639.8007.2.formalin@juno.com>
Since it appears I have nothing to do this afternoon besides piss off
Skadz by filling the jam with a bunch of nonsense, I think I'll do that.
Here are my exalted opinions on a few issues brought up in the last
digest. Take notes.
Charone on Erotomania (the neurosis, not the song):
> "That's the situation you don't want on your hands when
>someone who is
>suffering from the mental condition now recognized as *erotomania*, an
>unhealthy romantic interest in someone who returns none of your
>feelings.
Cool. Brings back fond memories of tenth grade :)
>Because once the erotomaniac feels the situation is hopeless,
>he or she will give up in the most final way of all: destroying the
>object of their affection."
Oops....um.....if anyone asks, you guys know nothing about a mutilated
body buried in the woods, k?
Charone on the Running People Over With Your Car game:
>You want points,
>
>you have to go for cats and walkers.
>
Naaaah. Walkers are for amateurs. Runners are the real challenge :)
Charone on Andy's Interum and B-Sides tapes:
> guys this is extremely good shit
I second that. Andy's tapes rule! Get them NOW!
Charone on Dollar-Yen conversions:
>I have got Uncovered CD in westside of Shinjuku City in Tokyo where
>some import CD sotores had Uncovered. The price was 5,100 Japanese Yen.
>1 US doller stands for 108 Yen.
"uhhhh...it was my understanding that there would be no math" -Gerald
Ford
Oh yeah. And if you haven't ordered your T-Wog (The Wrath of God) from
the newly engaged (congrats, Mike) Michael Bahr, do it NOW. The folks on
the Metallica list are snatching this one up pretty quickly.
Later all
-Char :)
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 20:20:54 -0500
From: petedz@interaccess.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: RE:UNCOVERED CD
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960830012054.00696070@pop.interaccess.com>
>I have got Uncovered CD in westside of Shinjuku City in Tokyo where some impor
>t
>CD sotores had Uncovered. The price was 5,100 Japanese Yen.
>1 US doller stands for 108 Yen.
I really appreciate the info. I'm guessing that you'll get a flood of e-mail in
response to your post. If, in spite of this, you'd be willing to help out
a fellow DT fan...please let me know.
I'd really like to get my hands on those CDs!
Thanks,
--
Peter Dziadzka
petedz@interaccess.com
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 21:47:28 -0400
From: kurt@fgallery.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Uncovered
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.8.29.-11.47.28.2916992174.334369@bbs.fgallery.com>
YT> ~Rip
YT>>Good price??? 47 bucks..? dunno if my math is correct..i divided 5100 in
YT>>108.. gave me 47.22 ...
YT>For a 2CD bootleg that's very reasonable. Most of the stores here in No.
YT>California that carry boots are around $50 for 2CD, so I see no problem with
YT>this price.
oh..its a 2 cd thing? then its a good price ..sorry.. what's the track
list?
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 21:02:58
From: emsGateway@wichita.fn.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: RR: YTSEJAM digest 1782
Message-ID: <199608300202.VAA23845@wichita.fn.net>
Message Received
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 21:04:40
From: emsGateway@wichita.fn.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: RR: YTSEJAM digest 1781
Message-ID: <199608300204.VAA24312@wichita.fn.net>
Message Received
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 03:34:49 GMT
From: rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Metropolis II
Message-ID: <322655e9.14625044@mail.inforamp.net>
Good evening,
>Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 01:03:38 -0500
>From: Scotch <anthem@virginia.edu>
>And come on, you silly Jammers... Metropolis Part 2 is THE WHOLE ALBUM!! A
>78-minute song, just divided up into separately titled indexed sections for
>Convenient Listening. Duh!
Jesus!! He could be onto something here. What if Met II is
Disc 2!!! A 40+ minute epic!!!
Mike Bahr!!!! Call Portnoy NOW and find out what the hell is
going on!! ;)
Cheers,
Rick
Toronto
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 03:34:39 GMT
From: rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Follow you, follow me, TRAITORS!?!?, Street crossing
Message-ID: <32264d10.12359992@mail.inforamp.net>
Good Evening!
>Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:37:40 -0400 (EDT)
>From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
>A public service announcement to all YtseJammers: DO NOT follow Rick
>Terry anywhere! :)
...Unless there's a promise of cold beer and loud music! :)
>Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 04:13:48 -0500
>From: Kent Willshire <cygnus.x-1@worldnet.att.net>
>To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu, ytsejam@ax.com
>Subject: To those who are pissed at Rush for opposing the tribute album:
>Message-ID: <32240DCC.FB4@worldnet.att.net>
The tribute is not available in Canada because CORE, the
publisher of Rush's catalog, would not grant the licensing rights for
the tribute's sale in Canada.
It is not available for sale legally anywhere here and no
chains are carrying it.
Also, before you call anyone a traitor, let me remind you that
many of us have a TON of Rush material. I first saw Rush at a high
school in 1973 before the first album had been released. Rutsey was
still the drummer. I bought the first album on the original Moon
Records label. I was 9 years old at the time. I have every full length
product they have ever done and a number of singles. I own one of
Lifeson's old amps which I bought from him DIRECTLY in 1981 at the
Music Shoppe in Thornhill, Ontario. I haven't missed a tour since
1977.
I was also involved with merchandising for Rush's Canadian fan
club for 5 years.
My loyalty to the band was never in question until now. CORE
never would have denied licensing for the disc if Rush, SRO and Anthem
hadn't told them not to allow it.
As a result, we have fans in Rush's homeland, and a VERY large
number in Toronto, their home, being deprived of an alternate
representation of their music.
This is not typical Rush behavior and THAT is what I find
upsetting. When did the Spirit of Radio, the ideology that the music
was more important than anything else, die screaming?
You should take a closer look at your heroes before you
condemn their loyal followers.
My personal action in this matter will be to dub copies of the
trib for ANY Canadian who cannot get to the states to get it. I
realize that this won't help Magna Carta, and I apologize for that,
but I can't believe that a band that has ideals as lofty as Rush could
ever stoop so low. They sing about inequality in songs like The Trees
and then turn their backs on their fans because they are concerned
about profit loss.
If you really want to talk about lack of loyalty and being a
traitor, talk to Lifeson. He and his wife are leaving Canada this week
because they are unhappy with our government. This is the same
government that awarded the band the Award of Canada.
Don't presume to know enough about the Rush fans here that you
can insult anyone by calling them traitors. I have been listening to
Rush for 23 years. It isn't the music that has ME pissed. It's the
lack of respect for the fans in Canada.
>Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 08:55:07 -0500 (EST)
>From: babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia)
>Well maybe for everyone who is flying we can arrange a spot to meet at the
>airport and then we could all cross the street together (big laugh).
Sounds cool. Can we do it in bare feet like Mike "McCartney"
Portnoy? ;)
Cheers,
Rick
Toronto
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 21:50:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: skooc@earthlink.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Stabbing Westward
Message-ID: <199608300450.VAA07030@greece.it.earthlink.net>
At 05:42 PM 8/29/96 -0700, you wrote:
>******
>The show started right on time at 7:30 with opening act Stabbing Westward.
>They are a Industrial/Gothic band in the Ministry vein. They played for :25
>and wree really awesome. I'll have to make sure I see them when they hit the
>Club Circuit.
>*******
>
>Shit, only 25 minutes. I love this band. They are great, but I have yet
to see them live. Their
>new CD, Wither, Burn and Peel is awesome. Check it out.
>
I plan on it as soon as I can afford it. By the way Stabbing Westward WILL
be going on tour! They are playing the Edge here in Palo Alto, CA on Sept.
15. Which reminds me, I gotta email my boss and get on the guest list.
Later...
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 01:45:39 -0500
From: Majesty <majesty@li.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1783
Message-ID: <32268E13.4485@li.net>
>Hmm. OK, back to Plan B - hope that a bunch of Boy Scouts come by to help
>me cross the busy road (Plan A was to look pitiful at the airport in a
>ytsejam t-shirt).
Fear Not BABS! Just use the walkway that goes OVER the GCP, right to the
Hotel...
> i'm not sure even boy scouts could help you there... dont NYC drivers view
> boyscouts as targets? maybe if you used them as human body shields.......
> NYC drivers view *everything* as targets. :)
Ya got that Right! Everythings fair game.
> Boy Scouts are actually fairly low on the point scale, though.
Not true! From what i have found, they are pretty rare in the City...
> You want points, you have to go for cats and walkers.
Don't forget people on bikes! (My Personal Favorite)
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 02:38:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Rush
Message-ID: <199608300638.CAA09076@umbc8.umbc.edu>
I find it somewhat didturbing that someone can think that "Counterparts" has
no redeeming qualities. I think mahy people will agree with me that "Double
Agent" and "Cold Fire" are some of the finest Rush songs ever written. Plus,
to deny the significance or quality of works like "Animate," "Nobody's Hero,"
or "Cut to the Chase" is the ultimate sacrelige. No, I do not put Counterparts
very high on my list of favorite Rush albums, but the quality of work hasn't
changed--only the pallette of materials. Sure, Rush could have denied that
grunge existed and gone in a totally different direction with Counterparts,
but maturity involves being <truly> progressive and not sticking your head
in the sand. Clearly they were influenced by the retro movement on that
record, but who isn't? Whoever denies the current direction popular music
has taken <and that's what all this is: pop music> is just being an ostrich.
Steve Z
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