YTSEJAM Digest 2074
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Saviour Machine III and rerelease in Jan 1997
by drkhoe@gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
2) Jason Becker is ALIVE!!
by cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers)
3) Fates Warning.
by rbeall@fdl.fdldotnet.com (Grim88)
4) Prog Band compilation
by "Steve Lehrfeld" <DREG@hutman.com>
5) Re: Fates Warning.
by Anton Max <madmax@andrew.cmu.edu>
6) A message to bass players everywhere!!
by Dreaded Rear Admiral <bd90988@binghamton.edu>
7) Re: Eric Johnson
by Sean T Gill <stg@csd.uwm.edu>
8) If you can't find directions...
by Bruce Miller <BM0042@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU>
9) Long Songs
by DrummerEsh@aol.com
10) greetings/girlfriends/dt stuff
by Chad Andrew Smith <casmith@mymail.net>
11) Lawns, Poughkeepsie
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
12) BirchHill PreMeet Information
by Heather Powers <ladydragon@andorra-c.it.earthlink.net>
13) I'm back...
by dseeger@juno.com (Deborah J. Seeger)
14) Click Click Click?
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2073
by Stan Tyszka <sstys@earthlink.net>
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2073
by Andy Steinitz <astein@cygnus.rsabbs.com>
17) WANTED: Ticket for 12/6/96 DT concert!
by Nick Bogovich <bogie@MIT.EDU>
18) short songs.
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
19) Malibu show from X-mas 1995?
by Jason Breitweg <jbreitwe@hep.physics.wisc.edu>
20) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2073
by Sk8rJay@aol.com
21) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2069
by David Gamble <dgamble@cs.uop.edu>
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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 02:13:56 -0800
From: drkhoe@gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Saviour Machine III and rerelease in Jan 1997
Message-ID: <199612041014.CAA16746@ gmsnet.com>
Yeah... that's real FUCKING great... do they ever plan to release Saviour
MAchine II in the US?
-The Doc
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Date: Wed, 04 Dec 96 13:13:01 GMT From: cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers) To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List) Subject: Jason Becker is ALIVE!! Message-ID: <M.120496.141301.93@wxs2-15.worldaccess.nl>
Hi folks.
I sent a message to jason@guitarists.com inquiring about the death rumour. I got a message back from Pat Mapps, who reads the mail, and that was the following:
Dear Richard:
Rumors of Jason's death are perhaps inevitable and highly exaggerated.
Thanks for helping dispel this one.
Pat Mapps
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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 10:20:42 -0600 From: rbeall@fdl.fdldotnet.com (Grim88) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Fates Warning. Message-ID: <199612041620.KAA02851@fdl.fdldotnet.com>
ok, I have a simple Q, and replying personally or to this list is fine. My Question is:
What is the best FW CD our of this bunch?
1. Chasing Time 2. Perfect Symmetry 3. No Exit
I plan on purchasing one, but am not sure which to get..which the most DT like?
Ryan Beall aka: Grim88 rbeall@fdl.fdldotnet.com grim88@hotmail.com http://members.tripod.com/~Grim88/index.html "Might as well. Can't dance" -- Jay "Popinjay" Ackroyd
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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 10:38:13 +0000 From: "Steve Lehrfeld" <DREG@hutman.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Prog Band compilation Message-ID: <1362427064-1666298@hutman.com>
A bunch of you have been asking about new prog bands and where to find them. Here's a great way to hear a dozen new bands, all on one CD. Some of these bands you've already heard of through this list.
"DREGs of the Internet - Volume 1"
Including a dozen independant bands and over 70 minutes of the internet's best progressive rock and metal. Hear this ground-breaking new music BEFORE these bands make it big! All original music influenced by the greats (Dream Theater, Rush, Yes, Fates Warning, Queensryche, ELP, Kansas, Metallica, etc.)
Featuring the bands:
* Clockwork * Happenstance * Mirror * Cold Front * 3250 * Psychedelic Lullabies * Facade * Inferno * The Age of Reason * Naked * Natures Call * Atlantis
*** FREE STUFF ***
Sorry, we're all out of the free Naked tapes, but we still have a bunch of other free promotional items including bumper stickers and what-not. They're free with each order.
Or you can also just get the free bumper sticker, along with our catalog, just by sending us a SASE.
To order the CD, send check, money-order, postal-order, or carefully hidden cash for just $12 (+ $2 s/h, $4 for international orders, US funds only):
DREG Records "DREGs of the Internet - Volume 1" 1912 Old Stonemill Drive Cranbury, NJ 08512
Check out the official website for song samples, reviews and info:
http://www.hutman.com/dreg/compcd.html
Here's what people are saying:
"A bargain at twice the price!" "Stays crunchy in milk!" "Makes a great Christmas gift" "Guaranteed to not cause cavities" "99% fat free"
-steve
************************************************** DREG homepage: http://www.hutman.com/dreg/
Available now:
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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:48:44 -0500 (EST) From: Anton Max <madmax@andrew.cmu.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Fates Warning. Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95L.961204114414.5651A-100000@unix21.andrew.cmu.edu>
On Wed, 4 Dec 1996, Grim88 wrote:
> ok, I have a simple Q, and replying personally or to this list is fine. My > Question is: > > What is the best FW CD our of this bunch? > > 1. Chasing Time > 2. Perfect Symmetry > 3. No Exit
Chasing time is a compilation and is a good survey but doesn't flow very well. Perfect Symmetry is probably the best album ever recorded (IMO, but I'm right :) and probably the most DT-like. Very dark though. No Exit is awesome. Very heavy metal.
So I guess I'd suggest Symmetry unless you're really more into the metal aspect of DT. Be warned that whichever you get will probably take a while to get into. But it's worth it.
-max
Anton Max MadMax+@cmu.edu http://thunderdome.pc.cs.cmu.edu/aepithex.html
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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 11:58:37 -0500 (EST) From: Dreaded Rear Admiral <bd90988@binghamton.edu> To: YtseJam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: A message to bass players everywhere!! Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.L3.93.961204115350.29859C-100000@bingsun1>
Greetings ytsejammers! I was just wondering if there were any bass players out there who might be interested in probably trading some bass tabs from DT or other bands in the same ballpark or other bass related info and such. E-mail me back privately if any of you are interested. Thanks a Lot.
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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 10:59:36 -0600 (CST) From: Sean T Gill <stg@csd.uwm.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Eric Johnson Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.961204104832.1039C-100000@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu>
> fretboard when he solos, which is cool. Not to be discriminating, but I > think the fact that he plays Strats makes me not like him as much. I >realize that this is closed minded, and I'm usually a very open-minded and > positive person, but I just hate the tone of Strats. He also needs to >invest in some distortion pedals, or at least a few lessons on how to >step on them. I was wondering if he'd ever get a decent crunch
Well, I for one love my Strat. If you want to hear Eric cut loose more, definitely check out Ah Via Musicom. And about his tone. He is Mr. Tone, on a never ending quest for the "perfect sound," which to him is to get a very smooth, violin like tone. It's this obsession with tones that contributed to the 6 year wait for Venus Isle. Plus he's from Texas, so he's got the Texas Blues & Jazz influence. TTFN- Sean
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Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 11:24:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Bruce Miller <BM0042@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: If you can't find directions... Message-ID: <01ICLZIUBFSI0085LE@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU>
I've noticed that if you can get the address for a venue, you should be able to look it up by road atlas at one of these sites:
http://maps.yahoo.com/yahoo http://map.bigbook.com/cgi-bin/navigator_map http://www.lycos.com/roadmap.html http://www.mapquest.com/
I know that Poughkeepsie is covered by those atlases. Of course, it's always better to have REAL directions from a native of the town.
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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 12:36:28 -0500 From: DrummerEsh@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Long Songs Message-ID: <961204123627_1085467247@emout02.mail.aol.com>
Hi fellow jammers. Ok about the long songs I think they are awsome and just proves further on how awsome Dream Theater really is for coming up with something like that. Bands out today can barely write songs that are 3 minutes long. Not to mention that its the worst 3 min of my day while listening to crap like that (Bush, Green Day, Marryllin Manson, and all other crap played on the radio) I say we start our own radio station that plays non stop Dream Theater/Rush songs.
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Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 12:17:40 -0600 From: Chad Andrew Smith <casmith@mymail.net> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: greetings/girlfriends/dt stuff Message-ID: <32A5C043.C5B@mymail.net>
(All those who are playing the DT drinking game, get out yer kegs...)
1) this is my first post. 2) I have been a lurker for a long time now (2 years). 3) I had all these other nifty things to say, but forgot them. Just take several sips to make up for this. 4) those of you who have no idea what I'm talking about, go grab a beer and read find the DT drinking game on the internet.
I've been interested in this girlfriend discussion. She really likes DT. I've made her several mix tapes along with non-DT stuff. So I've progressed from WFS to other things like LSOAD, which she really really likes. Then lately I've included TLF and TTT and LTL, all of which she likes. I figure TTT is your basic (I'm not sure if its permisible to use this word while describing DT) DT song, so thats a good sign. And if she likes LTL, then song lengths arent a problem. I had Acoustic Dreams playing in the car and like a month later she asked me to send her a tape of that (yes, we are dating long-distance). I was estatic. As far as the whole thing goes, it depends on the person (obviously). Her tastes are varied: pink floyd, classical and instrumental piano, john denver, etc. I'm kind of glad that she's not a total DT fan. This gives me a chance to share it with her. i just try not to bombard her with it.
As far as me: I'm a geologist, just graduated with my masters from Rice U. and will be starting as a senior lab technician at U of Houston. I'm just thankful to have a job. I first heard DT on the Blahs, I mean the Blaze 103.5 in chicago while lifting weights. It was PMU, and the thing that caught my ear was the use of keyboards. So a few months later i picked up I&W and have never looked back. I saw DT in Houston 2 yesars ago and last Christmas at the Malibu. I'm from Long Island, and feel i have a special bond with DT that way. I was hoping these concerts coming up would be later in December when i would be home :(
Other musical interests are Gentle Giant, ECHOLYN (everyone must have As The World IMO), FW, Iron Maiden, Rush. I love SG's Carved in Stone. Cool lyrics. Enchant's good, similar to FW in song style, i.e. songs arent that progressive, but they're good. Spock's Beard is currently growing on me. Well, that's enough for now later, Rockman -- casmith@mymail.net kill the sarx http://www.myhomepage.net/~casmith/ <><
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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 10:53:28 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Lawns, Poughkeepsie Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.961204104629.18660B-100000@dante29.u.washington.edu>
> From: vgl@u.arizona.edu (Vincent LuPone) > Subject: Re: [Fwd: Chain letter. ROTFLMAO!!!] > > I do not mean to offend anybody here, but... > > FIRST OFF, I'M A COLLEGE STUDENT LIVING IN A DORM ROOM. I DON'T HAVE A > FUCKING LAWN.
Probably because you're not confident enough about your body to do it in public.
> Please listen to me here and end the chain-letter-to-the-jam BS, or if > you want, just consider this a BS post as well, and go fuck yourself. > Thank you. > > Peace be with you and God bless,
"And also with you, my son. Now go fuck yourself."
:)
Man was the Poughkeepsie show an absolute bloodfest!! That place ROCKED!! The boys did "The Killing Hand!!" I'm so stoked, can't wait for Birch Hill...
Bafu Vai
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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 14:57:59 -0800 From: Heather Powers <ladydragon@andorra-c.it.earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: BirchHill PreMeet Information Message-ID: <BMSMTP8497398062ladydragon@mail.earthlink.net>
After a long and pleading talk with the regional manager of TGIF's (argh) The end result is.....Ytsejammers are very welcome at TGIF's BUT!!! they can not set up a section just for us due to the fact that it is a Saturday night. They have absolutely no problem with us wandering aimlessly around the resteraunt to see each other. If you are going...plan on arriving at 6:30 or so. If you want to reserve your table in advance, either call there (908)617-1900 or ask me really nicely to do it. I'm printing up directions tonight and anyone who has E Mailed me will get them automatically. See you all there :) -LadyDragon **you'll be able to find me ....just look for the bright orange hair**
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Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 15:05:20 EST From: dseeger@juno.com (Deborah J. Seeger) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: I'm back... Message-ID: <19961204.150722.5063.2.DSeeger@juno.com>
Hello, all and yes I'm back.
I got this postcard in the mail the other day about The Progress Report. It just said the new issue is out, but not where/how to get it. Does anyone know where to get this thing?
Debbie Seeger DSeeger@juno.com
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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 12:26:38 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Click Click Click? Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.961204122322.24050A-100000@dante08.u.washington.edu>
> From: Heather Powers <ladydragon@denmark-c.it.earthlink.net> > Subject: Female Jammer Stereotyping
I think Charone Frankel is an Alpine. With Bose speakers.
> click click click chuckink gobble gobble ;)
Raising the guillotine blade and letting it fall? Turkey in a guillotine? Cranking the arm back, turkey in a catapult? Internal workings of a gumball machine dispensing a turkey?
"SPEAK!!" --Queensryche
Bafu Vai
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Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 15:45:13 -0400 From: Stan Tyszka <sstys@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2073 Message-ID: <32A5D4C9.6E80@earthlink.net>
hey jammers, ive got one extra birch hill ticket that i was unable to sell, and really need the cash for it. ill give it up for 12 bucks. less than ticketmaster was charging. email me and we can set something up. -- Stan Tyszka drums and bass sstys@earthlink.net stys@hotmail.com (((This Space For Rent)))
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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 16:58:09 -0500 (EST) From: Andy Steinitz <astein@cygnus.rsabbs.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2073 Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.961204165754.6563B-100000@cygnus.rsabbs.com>
could you please stop e-mailing me. Thankyou
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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 16:14:29 -0500 From: Nick Bogovich <bogie@MIT.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: WANTED: Ticket for 12/6/96 DT concert! Message-ID: <v03007800aecb99cc577a@[18.220.0.27]>
Fellow Jammers,
I'm in desperate need of a ticket for this Friday's show. If someone has an extra one, can I buy it off of you? I haven't been reading the jam too in depth lately (I know, I know...shame on me!), but school's been hectic. Please e-mail ASAP if you have any details. Thanks in advance.
Bogie
-------------------------------------------------- Nick Bogovich MIT bogie@mit.edu http://web.mit.edu/bogie/ -------------------------------------------------- "If you want something done right, just forget it."
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Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 15:39:57 -0600 From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: short songs. Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961204213957.006eb6b0@mail.inlink.com>
yeah, das right.. all this chat about long songs... we're leaving out those special short songs... opuses like I Mother Earth's Hello Dave! and Type 0 Negative's Machine screw, track 15 on Dave Matthews' Under the Table and Dreaming!... hell, SOD's Milk and The Ballad of Jimi Hendrix, as well as the whole speak english or die album is full of terrorizing tracks sure to rock your nads in less than a minute! they can also be a lifesaver... take those days where you wake up with "its a small world after all" in your head.. you're late already, you dont have time to throw in a full song to get the pain out of your head... enter short song. just a handy tip for the road :)
~Rip
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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 15:48:30 -0600 From: Jason Breitweg <jbreitwe@hep.physics.wisc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Malibu show from X-mas 1995? Message-ID: <199612042150.NAA14865@pawn.ax.com>
Hi everyone,
Well I hope everyone that is going to the first X-mas shows has fun. I have to wait until the Providence show. But at least I will be seeing one.
Since that tape tree a while back I have all the holiday shows from last year except the Mailbu one from 12/28/95. Does anyone have a good copy of this that they would be willing to dub for me? I have plenty of stuff to trade just check out my music page.
Take care everyone.
Jason
-- Jason Breitweg jbreitwe@hep.physics.wisc.edu, breitweg@amzeus.desy.de http://lobelia.physics.wisc.edu/jbreitwe, http://www-zeus.desy.de/~breitweg "The Gods Made Heavy Metal And It's Never Gonna Die!" - MANOWAR
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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 17:36:35 -0500 From: Sk8rJay@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2073 Message-ID: <961204173634_939892747@emout16.mail.aol.com>
Once you have received this letter you have to keep it. This is a love game played since 1877, You must copy this letter word for word and send it to 25 people in 7 days. On the 7th day drink two glasses of water and say the name of the person you like. Within 11 days that person will either say he/she loves you or ask you out. This is no joke. It has worked for years. If you break this chain you will have bad luck with your opposite sex for years.
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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 15:02:13 -0800 (PST) From: David Gamble <dgamble@cs.uop.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2069 Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.961204145842.14953A-100000@uop.cs.uop.edu>
At the Sacramento Rush show last November, whilst trying to enter the busy I-5, I saw three limousines heading the opposite direction on the back roads. We decided to follow. One of the limos (all were white) diverged and headed toward the city lights while the other maintained toward the darkness. Two of the liscence plates were completely un-unique (1ST577B, or something to that effect).... The other liscence plate, however, read LIMO LEE.....It was a California liscence plate.
I was wondering if anyone knew enough about Rush to comment on our findings....
Thanx, Dave G. (Sanguine Surroundings)
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