YTSEJAM digest 2104

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Fri Dec 13 1996 - 13:38:03 EST

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    Today's Topics:

      1) RE: YTSEJAM digest 2097
     by "SchuBert" <H.M.Peeters@stud.tue.nl>
      2) RE: YTSEJAM digest 2101
     by "SchuBert" <H.M.Peeters@stud.tue.nl>
      3) Re: Repost Birch Hill directions
     by "Robert Quezada" <rquezada@ix.netcom.com>
      4) They ain't Einstein; Jazz for DT fans
     by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
      5) Providence...
     by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
      6) Re: ID, Blowfish, Posters, IRC
     by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
      7) (blank)
     by Henrik Gustafsson <henrik@thn.htu.se>
      8) Cool info about Derek's stuff
     by YTSE-TODD <twwilso@students.uiuc.edu>
      9) More on the Great Keyboard vs. Guitar Controversy
     by "Greg R. Lee" <greg@aix.can.ibm.com>
     10) Need opinions on Glass Hammer
     by Walter S Semerenko <wss88274@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu>
     11) Derek Sherinian
     by Jeffrey Robert Chew <jc309@columbia.edu>
     12) DT in RI
     by psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan)
     13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2103
     by michael.bradley@mail.cc.trincoll.edu (Michael Bradley)
     14) U2 cover
     by "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET>
     15) 6 Strings Vs Keys
     by Luke <guarinol@bu.edu>
     16) Providence!
     by Andrew Rittner <adr93001@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>

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    Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 12:35:43 +0100 (CET)
    From: "SchuBert" <H.M.Peeters@stud.tue.nl>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 2097
    Message-ID: <45345.H.M.Peeters@stud.tue.nl>

    > All I have to say is Trent Resner, WHO-da-fuck from Smashing Pumpkins,
    > Ambient music, Yani, Who-da-Fuck from Black Crows, Who-da-fuck from Sonic
    > Youth, etc.
    No way, man! I mean, you're right about the most of them, but I love the
    Crowes' keyboardist (Eddie some-thing). I really dig Hammond organs, and he
    is one of the best Hammond players I've heard. Perhaps not technically, but
    he fits right in with the rest of the band. And I can't help it, I just love
    the Crowes.
       WW
      /__\ Groeten!
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    Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 13:05:53 +0100 (CET)
    From: "SchuBert" <H.M.Peeters@stud.tue.nl>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 2101
    Message-ID: <47156.H.M.Peeters@stud.tue.nl>

    > Anyway, anyone else know if FF use a drum machine in recording? I
    > thought DT did for I&W until I saw them live...
    I don't know if they use a drum machine on their recordings, but I DO know
    this sucker KICKS ASS playing live. His double bassdrum is really fast. I
    can't keep up with him hitting on the table with my hands, so let alone with
    my legs (but then again, I'm not a drummer).

    And another line I found:
    > DT really made me appreciate keyboards a lot.
    Keyboards made me appreciate DT a lot, actually.
       WW
      /__\ Groeten!
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    Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 08:43:08 -0500
    From: "Robert Quezada" <rquezada@ix.netcom.com>
    To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: Repost Birch Hill directions
    Message-ID: <199612131346.FAA24353@dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com>

    > Could someone please repost or e-mail me the directions
    > to Birch Hill? I can get to the Old Bridge area ok but I need
    > to know how to find the club. It is route 9 or route 18?
    >
    Coming from the Turnpike:

    from exit 11 (Garden State Parkway), take that to the Parkway South. Get
    off at Route 9. Keep going for about 15 minutes. Birch Hill is on your
    right about 1/2 mile after the Route 18 overpass.

    from exit 9 (Route 18), go down Route 18 South. Follow that until you see
    an exit for Route 9 south. The exit is about 20 minutes from when you get
    on Route 18. Birch Hill is on the right.

    from exit 8 (Route 33), take Route 33 East. Follow the road until you get
    to an exit for Business 33 East / Route 9. It will be after a Satellite
    store dealership (it has one of those 6 foot dishes on the top -- not hard
    to miss). This is about 15 minutes from the TP. Follow Business Route 33
    east. You'll eventually see Route 9. It's a fairly large intersection
    with a car dealership on the left. Turn left at this light and continue up
    Route 9 North. 20 minutes later you'll pass Birch Hill on the Southbound
    side. It's one light after McDonald's in the Marlboro Shopping Center.
    Take the jughandle to make a U-Turn and Birch Hill is right there.

    from exit 7A (Route 195), take this to Route 537 East. You could take this
    to Route 9, but you'll be traveling much further. From Route 537 East,
    keep following the road until you pass a large shopping mall on your left
    (Freehold Raceway Mall -- about 20 minutes away). Go to the next light
    that's just past the bridge. Turn right here to go under the bridge.
    Follow the signs to Route 9 North. 20 minutes later you'll pass Birch Hill
    on the Southbound side. It's one light after McDonald's in the Marlboro
    Shopping Center. Take the jughandle to make a U-Turn and Birch Hill is
    right there.

    > Thanks!
    >

    rq

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    Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 09:39:38 -0500 (EST)
    From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: They ain't Einstein; Jazz for DT fans
    Message-ID: <199612131439.JAA20880@cliff.cris.com>

    >> 2.) I know that one of the opening bands on Saturday
    >> is a band called "Einstein". What kind of music it is, and
    >> if they're any good - I have no friggin' clue.....

    > This is the team of Jordan Rudess and Rod Morganstein. They
    >rock. It's a lot like Dream Theater with just drums and keys. Real
    >complex keyboard drum trade offs and stuff. I saw them at the Toads show
    >and loved them!

    The Rudess Morgenstein Project are NOT Einstein. Two completely different
    bands. And for those of you who got to see the former, count yourselves
    lucky, because I took an Einstein album for a test spin at a local record
    store a couple weeks ago and........ I didn't buy it. But I'm funny like that.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Kris Long wondered....

    > ....if there are any jammers out
    >there who listen to jazz that would have some good suggestions for jazz
    >stuff that a DT fan might like. how's that DiMeola guy? or Schofield?
    >i've never heard their stuff but i've heard they're really good. any
    >suggestions would be greatly appreciated. thanks.

    That a DT fan might like? Hm. Well, I by no means am a "jazz listener" in
    the true sense of the phrase, but I do listen to some stuff that is closer
    to Jazz than anything else.

    Al DiMeola- I love his older stuff. First pick would be "Elegant Gypsy".
    Great songs with lots of "shred", played on a Les Paul and an overdriven
    Fender Twin. Smooth. That's the album that got me started on good ole Al.
    Next by him would be "Casino", then "Land of the Midnight Sun", and then
    "Electric Rendezvous". In that order, I guess. I REALLY don't care for his
    newer stuff. I can't remember any of the album titles because I've gotten
    rid of any I might've owned. His newer stuff seems to appeal to the "adult"
    contemporary jazz community. I don't know how else to describe it, but
    there's nothing to catch my ear in the newer stuff. If you like his 70's
    work, you might want to know that he used to play guitar with Chick Corea in
    the band Return To Forever. Speaking of Chick....

    Chick Corea is also popular among Rock fans. In particular, some of his
    Electric Band albums really treat my ear right. And they give your need to
    hear shred guitar quite a fix. Frank Gambale, sweep picker extraordinaire,
    plays on some of those albums. Funny thing...back in my days at the
    University of Miami Music School, I remember at guitar player saying, and I
    quote, "Frank Gambale? That guy personifies bad taste." -Dan Warner. Well, I
    never let that comment lower my opinion of Frank (except for Frank's solo
    albums....blecchhh!). The two Electric Band albums that BUUURRRNNN (IMO) are
    "Eye of the Beholder" and "Inside Out". They might take a while to really
    get into, but once you do, you'll be listening to them for ever. Also, you
    drummers should take note of Dave Weckl on these albums. Phenomenal.

    John Schofield- He's really popular, but I don't care for his stuff. I don't
    know why I feel that way. Maybe I didn't give him enough of a chance. Oh well.

    Pat Metheny- Ahh, now that's some great stuff. I love most of what he's
    done. Contemporary Jazz that's not cheese. You won't hear in-your-face
    shred, but he definitely blows doors with that box and his tone. Outstanding
    songwriting, IMO. My personal favorites are "Letter From Home", "Still Life
    (Talking)", and "We Live Here". These albums listed are some of his more
    recent works, dating back to about '89. Some of his older stuff is less
    "contemporary" sounding, with a bit more of a jazz sound. From that era, I
    really like the self-titled, "Pat Metheny Group", which has the classic tune
    "Phase Dance". And if you eventually find you like music with a bit of an
    ambient quality to it, I recommend "As Falls Wichita, So Falls Wichita
    Falls". That actually was my first ever taste of Pat Metheny. Definitely not
    for the first-time listener. It took me a LONG time to get into that album,
    but now, I think it's my favorite. Only the title track is semi-ambient (all
    20 minutes of it). The rest is very melodic, with lots of piano/synth sounds
    to make the sound a bit more dense. Keep an eye out for track 4: "It's For
    You"....it makes me melt.

    Mike Stern- Jazz Fusion 100%. I recommend "Upside Downside" and "Time In
    Place" for starters. Excellent songs with a Rock edge and burning guitar. I
    once saw his band play at a restaurant/club called the Iron Horse in
    Northampton, Mass. Man....I thought he was good...but not THAT good. His
    live playing was unbelievable that night and gave me even more respect for him.

    Alan Holdsworth- Although I never really got into him, Jazz and Rock guitar
    players alike enjoy his music greatly. A friend once recommended "Metal
    Fatigue" to me, but I never got around to checking it out. Probably worth a
    listen.

    Scott Henderson- Another Jazz-Fusion player along the lines of Mike Stern.
    He plays (or played, I'm not quite sure) in a band called Tribal Tech, which
    is very popular among Rock/Jazz oriented guitar players. I've heard their
    stuff once at a party and it sounded pretty cool. He also plays on the first
    Chick Corea Electric Band album, which is self-titled.

    Well, that's basically how wet my feet have been and still are with respect
    to Jazz and Jazz Guitar. If you grow to really dig that stuff, maybe more
    traditional Jazz is also in your liking. I've found it to really be an
    acquired taste for Rock-oriented listeners to get into. Give it time, and
    maybe you'll have opened a whole new door of musical enjoyment for yourself.
    Happy listening.

    -Rick

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     \****************** Richard S. Audet ******************/
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    Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 09:40:21 -0500 (EST)
    From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Providence...
    Message-ID: <199612131440.JAA27784@ruby.cs.brandeis.edu>

    Well, once again, an incredible concert... Lets see... we got to the
    Strand at about 6:30 or so, so we ended up in an incredible
    location... a few were 2nd row center stage, and I was 1st row in
    front of Derek stage left, leaning on the stage... The opening acts
    were awful. Einstein wasn't quite as bad, but the singer screamed
    mostly instead of singing. The others were barly tolerable to me...
    the lead singer was totally screaming... at one point towards the
    end, she asked if people wanted to hear a jazz song instead of a rock
    song... I was hopeful at this point, but it was barly different from
    the other songs they did. I also hate them for another reason, which
    I will get to later on in this message...

    Anyway, DT was about ready to come on, and unfortunatly, some dumb ass
    ended up right behind me... kept on talking all this BS like he knew
    everything.. I was dreading what he was going to be like during the
    show... Anyway. the curtains lifted, to the cool intro that they have
    for ACOS, and everyting was great... The bass in the mix might
    actually have been too high, you could finally hear everything Myung
    played. Derek had on his YtseCon II shirt, and during Another Hand/
    Killing Hand, he noticed my shirt, the origional Ytsejam shirt, which
    looks fairly similar in the front... he looked down at the logo on
    his shirt, looks at the logo on mine, then points down to the logo on
    his again... I cracked up for nearly 5 mins at the point... During
    Mirror/Lie, someone by us was really acting up shoving and everyting,
    and decided he wanted to make it up on stage, so everyone around us
    gave him a hand, and we nicly were able to get rid of him... At one
    point, I think after Pull Me Under, people were crowd surfing and
    being annoying in general, and the security guards actually pulled
    them up on stage to take them away... At that point, James just looks
    over at them, and starts waving good-bye, and I think everyone in the
    front row was cracking up... As far as the rest of the set list
    goes, I beleive it was the same as Toads... but here comes the really
    shitty part, and the reason that I hate the opening acts... Because
    they went on for soooo long, DT didn't have a chance to come on to
    play Metropolis for the encore :( The curtains closed, and we were
    waiting, when the lights come on and the security guards start telling
    us to leave for the lobby... James and Mike came out and appoligized
    for it, said it was beyond their control, and said that they would
    make it up to us later on... (in other words, be at the Strand the
    next time that they play there)

    Lets see... new tracks... I really like how all of them sounded
    after hearing them a 2nd time... Alot of them are heavier than some
    stuff on I&W, but not as heavy as Mirror/Lie... I was really trying
    to get some of the lyrics, but can't really remember too much of
    them... The only one that really didn't impress me too much was Lines
    In The Sand, but I think that that is because I didn't hear it
    enough...

    Anyway, I've rambled enough for now... I should get going to a full
    weekend of programming for an Operating Systems final due Monday...

    -- 
    +--------------------------------+--------+-------------------------+
    | Driven to the margin or error  | Rush   |     Michael Burstin     |
    | Driven to the edge of control  | Driven |   Brandeis University   |
    | Driven to the margin or terror |--------+-------------------------|
    | Driven to the edge of a deep, dark hole | Lets go Pens & Steelers | 
    +-----------------------------------------+-------------------------+
         For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
                 http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/home.html
    

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    Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 07:54:30 +0000 From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: ID, Blowfish, Posters, IRC Message-ID: <199612131503.IAA08915@cyberhighway.net>

    > From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> > To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> > Subject: ID, Blowfish, Posters, IRC

    > "Let's see... I got a Babs, a Mike Bahr, a first-edition Mike Bradley, a > Ryan Skadberg WITH cigarette-wagon attachment, a--"

    Hey, Bafu, I got (count 'em), two Andrew Miller action figures, both highly collectable and they don't even look like the same guy! Amazing, I bet your GI Joe guys couldn't do this!

    I like to take my Bafu Vai (2nd edition, with weapon cache accesory) and have him gun down all the other action figures who oppose him. I've also got a Mojoman and Mithrandir action figure, and these are very collectable since they don't make em anymore.

    Hey, anyone wanna trade this RipZero with assorted barnyard animal accesory for the new and improved Hare Krishna Kevin Moore? :)

    Woo! Woo!

    KorgX3 NOT The "Other" Ibanez (anymore) ibanez@cyberhighway.net "Well, I try to write music that Indiana Jones would listen to." --David Arkenstone

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    Date: Fri, 13 Dec 96 16:07 NFT From: Henrik Gustafsson <henrik@thn.htu.se> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: (blank) Message-ID: <m0vYZCY-0002h6C@tellus.thn.htu.se>

    Hello Thanks a lot to to guy that started the thread about Kevin Moore's hair, because it made me re-discover his tape and it is truly awesome. Too bad it is almost played to death in my tape-recorder. If not his new production is reaching the market soon, I will have to ask for a duplicate. My vote for best short song goes to Mike Bahr for his Mystery-Track of Subconscious-95.

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    Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 09:13:38 -0600 (CST) From: YTSE-TODD <twwilso@students.uiuc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Cool info about Derek's stuff Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961213091028.10505A-100000@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu>

    Derek is using the korg trinity keyboard for the new album (i read that in a korg magazine) and derek endorses korg. i bought a trinity over the summer, and it is one kick ass keyboard. it has two sounds on it called "Dream Theatre" and "Metropolis." i was just wondering if even though they mispelled dream theater that these two sounds are from the band or what. does anybody have any idea?

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    Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 10:17:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Greg R. Lee" <greg@aix.can.ibm.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: More on the Great Keyboard vs. Guitar Controversy Message-ID: <199612131517.KAA09682@slash.toraix.can.ibm.com>

    One absolutely cannot say that a keyboardist/pianist is a better musician than the guitarist. It is simply not the case. It's like saying a brain surgeon is a better surgeon than a cardio surgeon...they are two different areas of specialization.

    However, at the non-professional you and me level, I'd give keyboardists the upper hand - why? One word: TABLATURE!

    Keyboardists for the most part learn how to read music and learn musical structure etc...any Joe Blow can learn to play guitar with tablature and totally ignore the musicianship altogether. I am a case in point. I have been playing guitar for 10 years...I'm not exactly a great player, but I love to dabble...I can read music - I learned by taking courses in school, but I don't practice reading music and I am really slow...but hey, with all of the guitar mags out publishing tunes with tab, I can cheat!

    Guitar is much more accessible for someone who just wants to dabble with music without becoming a musician. If you want to debate keyboardists vs. guitar in terms of musicianship, you had better define musicianship first. Ie, I am a guitar player, but I am no musician...

    Greg, Toronto.

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    Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 11:03:36 -0500 (EST) From: Walter S Semerenko <wss88274@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Need opinions on Glass Hammer Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.93.961213105549.8044A-100000@pegasus>

    Any jammers have any of Glass Hammer's CDs? I would like to buy their first CD and it has been decribed as sounding like ELP. Also, what do you think about the second album? I hear it sounds different than the first and it is based on the writings of xian C.S. Lewis.

    Walter.

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    Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 11:11:28 -0500 (EST) From: Jeffrey Robert Chew <jc309@columbia.edu> To: The BafuJam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Derek Sherinian Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95L.961213110936.10296A-100000@namaste.cc.columbia.edu>

    Dear Jammers,

    > I am sorry if this has been discussed before,as I was off the > list for a long amount of time before I resubscribed, but I didn't > understand the joke Bafu made about Derek being a "homo".Is he really a > homosexual? Is it a rumor, or is it some kind of inside joke? I am not > a bigot of any kind, I was just sort of suprised by Bafu's statement. > BTW, if he in fact is, it's pretty cruel to dog him because of it.

    I think Derek Sherinian would be the last person in the world who would be homosexual.

    Yours, Jeff :)

    P.S. Sorry that I sort of dropped off the face of the earth lately, I've been busy with schoolwork.

    P.P.S. How were the Dream Theater shows? I couldn't go, unfortunately.

    -------------------------------------- Jeffrey R. Chew -- Columbia University

    E-mail: jc309@columbia.edu Home: (516) 674-4828 jchew@rsabbs.com Dorm: (212) 853-2276 URL: http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309 Pager: (917) 712-4828

    "Smile! No one will know what you're up to!" --- Lea Salonga

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    Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 11:20:00 -0500 From: psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT in RI Message-ID: <199612131613.LAA03435@uhura.ici.net>

    Well, I finally have recovered enough to post about the show last night. Firstly, I'd like to apologize to anyone who was looking for me at Trinity before the show because I never ended up getting there. :) I got caught in traffic, and then was stuck waiting for someone who was bringing a ticket for someone else, yadda yadda yadda....

    On a positive note, DT kicked my ass all over the Strand for the 3rd time. I must say, this time, they *really* looked like they were having fun up there. The new stuff rocked, the crowd was pumped about TKH and Ytsejam (it suprised me how much of the crowd was into the first album stuff...a lot of casual DT fans I know aren't even aware of WDADU).

    But, for the second straight year, I missed out on an encore because of an opening act. Last year, it was the legendary "Pleasure-Crush-at-El-En-Gee's" incident; this year it was "Let's-add-the-Beth-Hart-Band-to-the-bill". Because of the 2 opening acts, DT didn't get on stage until just before 11:00. Unfortunately, RI has some sort of law that required the show to end on or about 1:00. So all us lucky attendees didn't get to hear Metropolis. James did come out and apologize, while pointing out that it was not their fault. He promised they'd make it up to us, and I for one plan to hold them to that. :)

    All-in-all though, a totally killer performance. I *love* all the new songs, this album should be a killer. Derek really seems to add a different "sound". I noticed several times that his signature is firmly implanted on the songs now, and that's a good thing. I already can't wait for the *next* show......

    __<psull@ici.net>__http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html

    This space for rent...No pithy quotes need apply _________________________________________________________________

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    Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 11:54:56 -0500 From: michael.bradley@mail.cc.trincoll.edu (Michael Bradley) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2103 Message-ID: <199612131652.LAA26682@mail.trincoll.edu>

    Hey guys!

    Just a clarification. The team of Rudess and Morgenstein that played at Toad's are NOT the same as Jonathan Mover's band "Einstein." The singer for that band got the flu, so Rudess and Morgenstein did the Toad's gig at the last minute.

    -Mike

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    Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 11:34:40 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: U2 cover Message-ID: <199612131728.LAA02026@Walden.MO.NET>

    >U2's Red Sky mining

    I think you mean U2's Red Hill Mining Town (not to be confused with midnight Oil's Blue Sky Mine, U2's Under a Blood Red Sky, or that "Red Sky at Night..." thing :).

    Dale R. Newberry

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    Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 12:50:57 -0500 From: Luke <guarinol@bu.edu> To: dtforum <" ytsejam"@ax.com> Subject: 6 Strings Vs Keys Message-ID: <32B19781.2876@bu.edu>

    Hey guys my name is Lucas Guarino. I'm a Boston University student from NJ. As you probably know I am new to this discussion but have been a DT fan for about a year now. Well enough of that, On to important things. I can't believe that Damon and Bafu are arguing over the superiority of instruments. Each compliments the other when used properly ie any DT cd. Yet to say that one musician is more skilled than another is to say that a poet is more skilled than a novelist or a realist painter more skilled than a sculptor. This is barbaric (why can't we all just get along :) ? ) Each instrument deserves respect. This superiority due to powerchords complex must be dealt with, however. There are guitarists out there who have absolutely no skill and the blind media public enjoys their music. I have never understood why but that is not the issue. It is unfair, however, to say that all guitarists and the instrument itself requires less skill to play because of this. If the mass public rejected these power chord imposters than they would not be successful and would therefore be banished to the poser dimension never to be heard from again. Keyboardists however can take a few synths and some triads and sound decent just like a guitarist with power chords can. Yet the general public is not as hooked on keyboard music (although they should be) as they are on guitar. Therefore, I believe that both instuments are equally difficult and the reason that guitarists are being bashed is due to the mass public acception of half ass poser imposters who should be silenced forever. (as you all will soon learn I cannot spell so I am sorry about any mistakes made) Luke

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    Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 13:31:12 +0500 From: Andrew Rittner <adr93001@UConnVM.UConn.Edu> To: YtseJam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Providence! Message-ID: <yam6921.647.36190136@uconnvm.uconn.edu>

    Whooo! This concert kicked my ass SO HARD, I won't be walking right for WEEKS! It ruled... I shouldn't really bother with a setlist, since they've been posted enough (and I'm sure they will continue to be posted), and rest assured, ALL the songs kicked hard... just a few thoughts though:

    Providence was designed by Satan. When he was drunk. We had no idea where the hell we were (came in from Route 6), and decided to just take a random exit in the downtown area. Turns out we were only a block away! Lucky us... We got lost on the way back too, but that's because no one in the car could hear.

    The Strand is an awesome place! Lots of room, and good sight lines! I could stand back far enough to avoid the crush, yet see perfectly clearly! Well worth the ticket price. Go to concerts there if you can. It's the first time I ever saw the actual instructions to moshing posted on a door to a club... The backdrop behind the band was neat too, kind of an Awake cover type thing. Very good...

    I particularly enjoyed watching the opening act's drummers and their pathetic excuses for sets being completely over-shadowed by the looming monolith that was Mike's set... mmm... big...

    I think I was standing amongst Jammers, but I didn't say anything (duh). Anyway, I was on the right-hand stairs, right next to the sound board and light board. There were two guys with YtseJam t-shirts standing in front of me, slightly down the stairs. We were all annoyed, it seemed, at all the people trying to walk by us all the time. You'd think we were standing... on the stairs.. or something.. I was wearing a UConn hat and my ACoS shirt.

    They didn't get to play Metropolis. I was pretty pissed. Of course, they didn't go ON until after 11:00. That kind of sucked, but it was worth it! At least I didn't have to stand around outside or anything. People with tix just walked right in.

    Anyway, that's my little review. I have to go put some ice on my head or something. I haven't been beaten THIS savagely in some time!

    Later,

    Andy -- ====================================================================== = Andrew Rittner = Arthur! Monkey out of nowhere!= = adr93001@UConnVM.UConn.Edu = = = http://www.ucc.uconn.edu/~adr93001 = -The Tick = ======================================================================

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