YTSEJAM Digest 2103
Today's Topics:
1) DT and special thanks
by "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" <bduesterhoeft@enter.net>
2) Einstein
by kylania <kylania@sr.radiks.net>
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2101
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
4) Re: Einstein
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
5) Re: Dream Theater Christmas CD
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
6) email address change!
by Kimpy <jaimekimpton@mailhost.vwc.edu>
7) steve vai live at the Odeon
by John Emmons <jemmfam@imperium.net>
8) Re: hotmail.com
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
9) Re: The Secret, Learning to Live - Keyboard vs. Guitar
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
10) TSO
by "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET>
11) ID, Blowfish, Posters, IRC
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
12) pass the crack pipe
by kristopher long <long16@matrix.newpaltz.edu>
13) Mutterings 'n mumblings
by "Ollila Marko" <marko.ollila@metsaserla.fi>
14) Nickel vs. Ivory
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 00:57:41 -0500
From: "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" <bduesterhoeft@enter.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT and special thanks
Message-ID: <32B0F055.1C2D@enter.net>
Why is that every group that thanks Dream Theater they spell it Dream
^^
Theatre? It's in Fates Warning's Parallels and in I Mother Earth's
Scenery and Fish.
Just a concerned spelling freak!
Birch Hill in 2 days!!!!!!!
Bruce D.
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Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 23:53:44 -0600 (CST)
From: kylania <kylania@sr.radiks.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Einstein
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961212234925.23450A-100000@sr.radiks.net>
> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 16:38:16 -0500 (EST)
> From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
> 2.) I know that one of the opening bands on Saturday
> is a band called "Einstein". What kind of music it is, and
> if they're any good - I have no friggin' clue.....
This is the team of Jordan Rudess and Rod Morganstein. They
rock. It's a lot like Dream Theater with just drums and keys. Real
complex keyboard drum trade offs and stuff. I saw them at the Toads show
and loved them!
Dave
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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 00:06:34 -0600
From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2101
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19961213060634.0070d534@enteract.com>
>and yes, as an ambient musician myself, creating slowly shirfting atmospheres
>is *MUCH* harder than playing fast, technical stuff. i've done and do both,
>and i can promise you that the concenration, nuance, and emotion put into
>it is much more involved than playing a quick keys solo.
I don't understand. The vast majority of Ambient music I've heard can be
played on one key of a keyboard , with just a few pach changes. PLEASE
point me in the direction of some true ambient music (Such as the label and
album titles of "Steve Roach" etc...) so I can be corrected. I mean, what
I've heard I've been able to recreate on a whim with a good keyboard module.
I can NOT, however, play like Jens Johannsen <SP?> or The guys from Shadow
Gallery etc...
>You have "A Distant Thunder" (which is pretty damn good..their second
>best out of their 5 albums).
It's a good album, but the lyrics get a bit tiresome, as do some of the
melodies. Nosferatu is GREAT though. HIGHLY recommended, for it's meager
domestic asking price.
> I have a stronger dislike for CENTURY MEDIA than for METAL BLADE
>simply for the fact that they'll promote the more accessible bands on
>their roster but don't make up a single promotional poster for NEVERMORE
>or ICED EARTH!
Actually, Carlo, that place "Impulse Records" I was telling you about when
you were in Chicago.... they have Promotional posters and stuff for
Nevermore, Iced Earth... Vai.... lining the walls. I can see about getting
some of it from them for you if you want. And there's going to be another
ALS benefit this spring, most likely featuring Vai, Satch, MacAlpine, and
with luck, even John Petrucci. They say the show was such a huge success
(You know how packed it was all the way from start to finish... 8 hours!)
that they will not wait a full year to do it again.
Now, on to other things
I bought Symphony X's The Divine Wings of Tragedy today....
And I have never heard a band this good before. This is one of
those extremely rare albums where you could never change a thing to make it
better. I was talking in a post not too long ago about how great Angra's
Holy Land is.... it's still great, but it's been DWARFED. The mix is
great... you can hear every instrument. The bass is fingered (not picked)
and is very well executed... pretty damn quick. The drums are PERFECT for
the music. Tight double bass, great high hats and ride use... it's a metal
drumming wet dream. The keys are reminiscent of MacAlpine's key playing,
with a bit of a Kevin Moore style thrown in for good measure. The vocals
are HUGE! TONS of harmony (Sounds like a harmony machine much of the time,
to my ears, but oh well). The style of the vocals is sort of similar to
Labrie, but with a different tone. Imagine if Labrie used the same
techniques he uses now, but had a voice more like something from Journey,
Kansas, and Boston mixed together. He uses his voice on at least one song
to sort of scat sing a solo... not quite scat sing.... it's more like
"ooh"'s and "Ahh"'s singing a great melody.
The guitars are IMMENSE. Michael Romeo (plays the sick solo on
Analog Kid on the Working Man tribute) has it all down perfectly. His
alternate picking is water tight, his feel is passionate and
emotional--similar to Becker and Vai (About the greatest compliment I give),
and he does some eight finger tappin runs (I know I obsess about 8 finger
tapping, because it's something that has been an enigma to me for years...
until now, hopefully!) that sound like keyboards! There's a definate
influence from Vai, DiMeola, Gilbert, Yngwie, and Uli Roth on this work.
I can't recommend this album highly enough. I paid $32 for it and
would have easily paid $100 for it had I known it was this good. It should
be available as a domestic soon... I'll keep the jam posted. Word of
warning: Symphony X's first album (Self titled) is great, but the singer on
the album is ... not something that caught my ear in a good way. The album
is great, and also recommended, but if you're gonna pay import prices you
might as well be totally happy with what you're buying and buy The Divine
Wings of Tragedy. I'm told their Damnation Game is phenomenal as well.
Thanks to good ol' Rick Terry for pointing me in the direction of this band.
It's as close to my definition of perfection as you get.
Take care, and do direct any questions at me... happy to help.
Merry Christmas
Chris W. Ptacek Musician and Listener
A.K.A Madsman, on IRC
"Can we search for inspiration -- those ideas that just come
from 'nowhere'? They don't surface when you're tHiNKinG.
They just come. What we CAN do is make fertile the ground
on which idea seeds fall."
- Michael Hedges
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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 02:10:58 -0500
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Einstein
Message-ID: <32B10182.6DFA@caribe.net>
kylania wrote:
>
> > Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 16:38:16 -0500 (EST)
> > From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
> > 2.) I know that one of the opening bands on Saturday
> > is a band called "Einstein". What kind of music it is, and
> > if they're any good - I have no friggin' clue.....
>
> This is the team of Jordan Rudess and Rod Morganstein. They
> rock. It's a lot like Dream Theater with just drums and keys. Real
> complex keyboard drum trade offs and stuff. I saw them at the Toads show
> and loved them!
>
> Dave
--Is it the same thing?? Isnt that the Rudess/morgenstein proyetc? I read something to like einstein didnt go on cuz someone was sick..and Rod/morg came on..
We Can Learn from the Past,but those Days are Gone... We Can Hope for the Future,but there may not be One... <Dream Theater: A Change Of Seasons> WowoW Hooo Wowow Hooo Wowow hooooooooo!! -Devin Townsend WoWoW! WoWoW! WoWoW! -Mike Portnoy mailto:calfaro@Caribe.net
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Date: Thu, 12 Dec 96 22:12:54 PST From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Dream Theater Christmas CD Message-ID: <9612130612.AA29024@tengs1>
> > just got it in the mail today, available for fanclub members only > > > > songs on it from uncovered gig > > U2's Red Sky mining > > Rush's Tears > > Metallica's Damage Inc > > and oh holy night
>When did you have to sign up for the DTIFC to get this CD? I sent my renewal c>heck in >on Oct 30th... > >Does anybody know the cutoff date?
Yeah, I sent mine in October. Dave Gamble in Stockton got his; I'm an hour away. Anyone else in the Bay Area get theirs? I guess I'll have to dig out my bank statements to see if that check was ever cashed (I usually leave 'em unopened because it's depressing how much money I I pay out each month).
Is there like a master list of members?
Zach
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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 01:13:25 -0400 From: Kimpy <jaimekimpton@mailhost.vwc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: email address change! Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19961213011733.1947216c@mailhost.vwc.edu>
I'm going home for Christmas tomorrow afternoon, so anyone who needs to reach me between then and sometime in the middle of January can do so at my old account, Maraya007@aol.com (I can't use my ISP at home because it's a different phone company and therefore a long distance call. *sigh*)
I will be working on the next issue of the fanzine over break, so if anyone has anything to contribute (reviews of the December shows, clinics, thoughts on the new material, recent photos, etc., etc., etc.), you're more than welcome to email it to me... this will be my third anniversary issue, so I'm gonna beef it up good. :)
Jaime the stupendously sleepy Dragon
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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 01:23:39 +0000 From: John Emmons <jemmfam@imperium.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: steve vai live at the Odeon Message-ID: <32B0B014.488E@imperium.net>
HI!
I went to the Steve Vai show last night and boy did it rock! In case anyone was wondering, or is going to see him later here is the setlist...
fire in the house "drum solo" animal bad horsie greasy kid's stuff crossroads deepness I would love to tender surrender brother little aligator die to live crying machine blowfish charlie brown kill the guy answers for the love of God "conducting" encores: liberty attitude
I'd STRONGLY encourage anyone who can to see this show...and a word of warning...if you do stand in the front, you will need those earplugs...
Maria
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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 96 00:42:36 -0600 From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: hotmail.com Message-ID: <32b0fadc089e215@mhub1.tc.umn.edu>
hotmail.com provides free web-based e-mail accounts, no strings attached, no advertising, no nothing. I've got one (which I don't use) - it's great except you have to check your mail over the web - you can't use regular mail programs. I only got it so I could get a second free web page which required a different e-mail address from the first.
-Brian
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/6521 http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/3771
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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 96 2:29:23 EST From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: The Secret, Learning to Live - Keyboard vs. Guitar Message-ID: <9612130729.AA29272@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
My whole premise behind this argument is not to bash guitarists. I give people like Vai, Van Halen, JP, Satch, and others their dues. My whole premise is that I want to see keyboardists get the same respect. Because the bottom line is that we don't.
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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 01:53:05 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <drnewb@MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: TSO Message-ID: <199612130746.BAA19991@Walden.MO.NET>
Heyall, check out this little blurb I read earlier in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch on the TSO project:
"Imagine a low-rent opera featuring Mannheim Steamroller, Meat Loaf, Rush, John Tesh, and the kid cast of 'Zoom,' and you'll have some idea of what this gooey plum pooding of an album sounds like."
Hmm, I'm not sure if this was meant to be positive, negative, or whatever, but oh well. Oh, and speaking of Savatage (sort of), my dad's getting into them some. After he heard "Christmas Eve..." on Steve & DC the other day, he immediately fell in love with it. I got the CD out for him and he's planning on checking out the rest of the album. Pretty sweet, I must say. Cheers.
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 00:16:13 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: ID, Blowfish, Posters, IRC Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.961213000105.12276D-100000@dante17.u.washington.edu>
> From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) > Subject: IDs, Age? > > Wtf? What would one use for a 2nd ID???
A birth certificate. Or a copy will do if you don't want to bring the original into a freezing cold line for three hours. Keep in mind that no one can force you to deface your birth certificate. If a door guard demands an original, tell him it's your choice whether your birth certificate is mangled or not.
Social Security cards are usable as "identification" in all situations, especially when applying for a job. As for door guards, I would never expect them to go, "Aha. You're a U.S. citizen. Your birthday was back in 1963. And there's no picture on this card. But who cares, I know what you look like just by lookin' at you. Go ahead inside! Merry Christmas!" A copy is usually only accepted if you're far, far from home and need to have an image of the card faxed to you in an emergency situation that the usual postal service can't handle.
Anyway. Usually those decent, logical fellows at the door who think they're somehow more scrutinizing than customs officers or the U.S. Government will ask you for a "photo" i.d., or something else that's real easy to duplicate and takes little knowledge to figure out. Student ID cards are acceptable, but college much moreso than high school, unless you want to argue you're 21 and just "taking your time" getting through 12th grade. This usually only works if the card has your birthday on it. Be sure to smile and tell the guard what your sign is. "See? June 8th! I'm a Gemini! Don't you want me even more than you did a second ago??? Nevermind that, time to pat me down for concealed weapons now."
---- > From: "LRW" <sir@micron.net> > Subject: New DT > > what effect is stevey v. using on the main riff of blowfish?
"I just compressed the ever-loving piss out of it!" --Steve Vai, on "Blowfish"
> why is it that bangkok and fire garden suite are split up when they are > just different sections of the same song? especially when fgs already > has different sections.
Vai didn't write "Bangkok" and the "Fire Garden Suite" is a rather long original work. Maybe he didn't want a cover and an original as one track.
---- > From: michael.bradley@mail.cc.trincoll.edu (Michael Bradley) > Subject: Toad's Place! Boot Request > > I'm wondering if anyone who taped the show would be willing to > trade me for a copy. I'm dying to get a copy of this show so I can get > familiar with all the new material.
What are we, action figures?
"Let's see... I got a Babs, a Mike Bahr, a first-edition Mike Bradley, a Ryan Skadberg WITH cigarette-wagon attachment, a--"
"Whoah! You have a Mike Bradley? I got a copy of the Toad's Place show! You said you wanted that, right?"
"Hell yeah! Wanna trade?"
---- > From: David Sabetai <DAVIDJON@worldnet.att.net> > Subject: DT Poster, Rush Tapes, Kevin Moore > > I was wondering if anyone going to the Birch Hill show would mind > picking me up a poster.
They have posters at the shows??? What do they look like???
> Judge a musician on his music and a model on his looks.
What are you saying??? That all musicians are men and that all models are men too??? Then that settles it!! You're a sexist!! Take it from me, I know ALL ABOUT sexism!! I *AM* SEXISM!!
I'm kidding, David.
With the exception of the part about me being sexism incarnate.
Well. Last evening I had a delightful discussion with "Chris" and "Madsman" regarding the ALS Benefit. Namely, Michael Angelo. We concluded that whenever someone says this name they have to say MICHAEL. ANGELO. Two separate, ominous roars to match the shredder's ominous aura.
"Anyway, Tony MacAlpine did a solo, and then Gregg Bissonette started this cool rhythm, then MICHAEL. ANGELO. came out with these leather pants on and..."
Echobox is optional.
"I'm not much into Chris Impellitteri or Vinnie Moore, but I do like MICHAEL. ANGELO-LO-Lo-lo-lo..."
Otherwise, the nonchalant line of the evening that floored me goes to Chris "Madsman" Ptacek: "I spent a lot of time practicing speed picking on steel string acoustic."
And I'm like, "GULP?!?!"
Otherwise we played an educational game called "Stump Chris Ptacek," where we'd all throw out names of guitarists and like Data himself Chris would spew out the person's album releases, band projects, date of birth, blood type, etc. I never got around to Warren Cuccurullo, but I'm sure Chris has his solo release. Did you know Chris has 8,326 cds? And that's just the guitar stuff! I had no idea Joe Satriani had released five albums with his old band, The Squares! And Buckethead? Shit, that guy's got sixteen releases! And Chris has 'em ALL!! One of them actually has Buckethead on the album cover without his mask, and he's really Kevin Moore!
Bafu "Oink Oink" Vai
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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 03:51:38 -0500 (EST) From: kristopher long <long16@matrix.newpaltz.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: pass the crack pipe Message-ID: <199612130851.DAA05840@matrix.newpaltz.edu>
oh man, i think i've just recovered from the poughkeepsie show. damn that was good! anyway, i took a class this semester on the history of jazz and it sparked my interest, so i was wondering if there are any jammers out there who listen to jazz that would have some good suggestions for jazz stuff that a DT fan might like. how's that DiMeola guy? or Schofield? i've never heard their stuff but i've heard they're really good. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. thanks.
Kris Long
"When you're out there having a good time, just remember, hookers are people too, so say thank you when you're done." -Max Weinberg
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Date: 13 Dec 96 11:34:14 +0200 From: "Ollila Marko" <marko.ollila@metsaserla.fi> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Mutterings 'n mumblings Message-ID: <9612131134.aa14@tppalv2.metsaserla.fi>
Hiyall,
So, the long-awaited Jam 2112 is just around the corner. Does everyone have their fingers of the keyboard yet? I bet that when 2111 has come out in digest format, 2112 will come within five minutes...but what will we wait after that? 3233 (Talisman's song)? 30366 (Stratovarius)? Any suggestions?
Jonathan Dery spake thusly: >I am sorry if this has been discussed before,as I was off the >list for a long amount of time before I resubscribed, but I didn't >understand the joke Bafu made about Derek being a "homo".Is he really a >homosexual? Is it a rumor, or is it some kind of inside joke? I am not >a bigot of any kind, I was just sort of suprised by Bafu's statement. >BTW, if he in fact is, it's pretty cruel to dog him because of it.
Nope, Bafu's not being cruel. It's an inside joke. Vergittit.
Jeremy Bower asked: >Hey, do any of u have James Coleburg's e-mail address.
Yup. jamesarin@aol.com. And it's Colberg. :)
Bernd pondered: >What can one do who starts to hate his job but needs the money? Money sux.
Do what I do. Keep the job and feel bad about it for the rest of your life. :) Besides, you needn't worry, Superior will hit it big within two years and after that you can tell your bosses to buzz off. :)
Alexis asked: >Hey people, what would be the best CD to start off my Blind Guardian >collection. I', thinking of ordering Follow the Blind 'cause the name >sounds cool. Please let me know which one to get first. Thank you!
Steer clear of "Follow the Blind". It may be the worst BG disc ever made. Order one of the newer ones. "Somewhere Far Beyond" or "Imaginations from the Other Side" are far superior to all the earlier ones. Avoid "Battalions of Fear" also. E me for additional info if needed.
Surprisingly many ppl have asked me about Savatage's "From the Gutter to the Stage". Isn't it out in the US yet or what? Nathan Bradley, any info?
Useful tip of the day: Never fart with a trenchcoat on. ;P
_Mape_
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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 03:31:18 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Nickel vs. Ivory Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.961213030654.21990D-100000@dante21.u.washington.edu>
> From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> > Subject: Re: The Secret, Learning To Live > > Hey, Bafu. Keyboard players slow? Well, buddy, let me tell you > something.
You have such a soothing tone, Damon, and in so many more ways than one. Were you not so caustic and repelling, how could I ever learn to truly love you???
:)
I gladly expose my ribs to your spear, heathen.
;)
> You're just jealous. All you guitar players are.
To say I have "thumb-envy" would be far too Freudian, even for me.
> Because overall, keyboard players are better musicians. Yeah, there are > your exceptional guitarists like Vai and JP, but for the most part, > guitarists can learn three power chords and become millionaires. Hey, > look at Nirvana. Power chord central.
"IT'S CLOBBERIN' TIME!" --The Thing
Here's where I get semi-serious. Ptacek, get that pilot-light going. ;)
For the most part, pianists and keyboardists can learn pieces by famous composers and gain fame themselves. Most of the greatest pianists (or classical musicians in general, makes me wonder about the definition of the title "musician") in the world have gained reknown by mastering pieces by The Great Composers (Bach, Strauss, Mozart, etc.). That's how classical musicians are mainly judged - by their ability to perfect and repeat what already exists. I for one think some of them would be great at raising sparrows should they ever tire of music.
Anyway, what's an electric guitarist supposed to do in this case? Release an album of Joe Satriani covers? Who could make a career out of that? "Hey, here's my best Yngwie Malmsteen! Check it out!" Us Guitarists have to actually write original compositions in order to even raise an eyebrow. If your solos are all three-note tapping constructions played in the vein of "Eruption," you'll be written off in zero seconds flat as an Eddie Van Halen ripoff, and no one will ever give your music a second thought. Yeah, that absolutely sucks, but that's how the sharks operate on this plane.
I can't even begin to explain how quickly I had to put away the drill altogether when I found out Paul Gilbert had already done the drillbit picking technique with a Makita cordless. From that day onward I knew I could never do that with my guitar WITHOUT someone saying, "Oh, he's doing Paul Gilbert. Next." There is no respectable repetition of technique and ideas with the electric guitar, even if it IS unintentional. Heck, some people do it intentionally, but if all you do is play someone else's exact licks in the hopes that no one will notice, people will see through your bullshit and hunt you down. Strange how Midori and Yevgeny Kissin have built careers out of doing this.
No I'm not mad at Damon. We like picking on each other. We live for it. But I think this is an excellent opportunity to put this rather weighty argument on the table. Part of the reason I stopped with piano and started with guitar is that I couldn't STAND being judged by my ability to play a perfect "Hymn To Joy" or "Prelude #blahblahblah." I hated having my competency as a musician gauged by the size of my repertoire and my ability to spew forth a bunch of notes already written, already played by thousands of other pianists, already recorded on thousands of albums. Makes you wonder why MORE AND MORE come out EVERY YEAR. Classical sections in music stores aren't bigger because more people "like classical music," they're bigger because the releases NEVER STOP.
Think you've heard the final "Chopin's Preludes?" Give it a few months, someone else will record them. And I guarantee that no one in the classical world will turn up their nose and scoff, "But Ivo Pogorelich already played them! To hell with this imposter!"
> But try to get a keyboardist to play power chords. Sounds crappy. We're > forced to be good because keyboardists can't fake it. You guitarists can > fake it better than women can. Therefore, you're losers.
Oh yeah? Well your mother plays a Casio!
I'm sorry, that mother joke was uncalled for... But I'll bet it's an SK-1 sampling keyboard so she can yell at you electronically and stop wasting her breath telling you to get a real job and get outta the house!!
> Flame away if you must, but the keyboard bashing will come to an end > today. I am bdeclaring war.
Who's bashing keyboards? You think I&W or Awake would ... (wait, I didn't mention ACOS, now I'm a Derek-Hater) ... OR ACOS would be what they are without the textures added by ambient chords and subtle nuances enacted by the keyboards? Not to mention the obvious solo work?
You're bashing keyboards by even suggesting that they CAN be bashed, d00d.
:)
---- > From: Big.Swifty@twav.com > Subject: DTIFC Christmas present
This was too cool. Really breaks down that marble pedastal thing. ;)
---- > From: akyuz@ltp.dmx.epfl.ch > Subject: TD, not DT > > Someone was recently mentioning Tangerine Dream a while ago. If i'm > right, they did the sountrack for "Risky Business".. I remember the music > was real cool.
Yeah, Tangerine Dream has a really good lead vocalist. Just listen to "Old Time Rock & Roll." What a powerful track!
So what do the shirts and hats look like?
Bafu Vai
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