YTSEJAM Digest 1283
Today's Topics:
1) Hey..Lemme Clear UP!
by kurt@fgallery.com
2)
by DreamNDay@aol.com
3) Good job
by DreamNDay@aol.com
4) Tori .... ??
by mojoman@pointblank.com
5) MP Drum Clinic In Dayton
by "matt" <meg147@psu.edu>
6) Asleep by 6:00
by borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1278
by Ernesto Schnack <ernie@ns1.pananet.com>
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1277
by DreamNDay@aol.com
9) Pro-Pain
by DreamNDay@aol.com
10) Maiden in Philly...Birch Hill tapes
by rinverso@cosi.stockton.edu (Ryan Inverso)
11) Dream Theater covered
by napkins@clandjop.com (Seth Hatlelid)
12) A birthday story...
by Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
13) paradise lost
by Matt Rosin <msr7146@tam2000.tamu.edu>
14) Re: Warning!!
by MJGU87C@prodigy.com (MR STEVE P SWEENEY)
15) the ball back?
by kristopher long <long16@matrix.newpaltz.edu>
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1278
by alex@cts.com (Steve Alexander)
17) What's Up w/Metropolis?
by "Jonathan Byrne" <RRI02@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU>
18) Drip, Drip, Drip
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
19) Geewhizjiminycrickets!
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 10:25:38 -0400
From: kurt@fgallery.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Hey..Lemme Clear UP!
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.2.21.10.25.38.2916992174.255979@bbs.fgallery.com>
OK..now that i read both messages ..THEY DO LOOK WEIRD! Ok..the first
message (the one about Pr sucking)Was written for the Jam..the second
one i wrote to a Guy called ernesto which lived in panama....but i
copied the email i wrote him to the jam!So it looks like..im disagreeing
with myself..saying you live in panama i live in Puerto Rico..now that i
read it carefully i find it quite funny ..anyway..Dream Theater rules!
I guess its a cliche but its true anyway....
Seize The Day,.MTFBWY
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 09:53:20 -0500
From: DreamNDay@aol.com
Message-ID: <199602211453.JAA25338@emout05.mail.aol.com>
game scared the hell out of me! I couldn't believe
my eyes! I was insulted, laughing, and schocked all at the same time!
I have sent 5+ post at once
I always say "AY-COSE" Instead of A change of Seasons (Jsut while I'm typing)
I take offense to the "laughing at the AOLers" remark
I find Ben's sigs funny the first few times, but then again, he changes it
often.
I am the one who posts all (or most) of the misheard lyrics (Was that one
supposed to insult me or thank me?)
So many more I can't name. Thank you so much for this reality check!
later-----------Brian
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 09:53:24 -0500
From: DreamNDay@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Good job
Message-ID: <960221095324_227568066@emout06.mail.aol.com>
I did a good thing for all jammers everywhere when I was in Tower records
last week. I scratched the last two letters of "Dream Theatre" off of the
dividing card.
later--------------Brian
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 09:56:38 -0500
From: mojoman@pointblank.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Tori .... ??
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.2.21.9.56.38.2377490627.1218309@pointblank.com>
Tori Amos....
Not that its really that important...but when did Tori Amos
become related to DT???
Did she do any of the band?????
If not, then why are we talking about her....
maybe we should change the name of the list to
little.eathquakes@ax.com
The World Famous
M O J O M A N
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 10:45:13 -0500 (EST)
From: "matt" <meg147@psu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: MP Drum Clinic In Dayton
Message-ID: <38719.meg147@email.psu.edu>
Has anyone heard anything more on the date of the MP drum clinic in Dayton,
Ohio. Someone had mentioned on a previous jam that there would be a clinic
and I would like to attend. Personally I think MP is the greatest drummer to
come out. I would like to here some of his secrets and see some of
his techniques to improve my drumming. My ultimate goal is to play as good
as him. I know I have a long way to go but it could happen some day. Anyway,
if anyone finds out the date please tell me.
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DAYBREAK AT THE BOTTOM OF A LAKE, IT'S A HUNDRED DEGREES I CAN'T BREATH...
Dream Theater
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 15:44:48 GMT
From: borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Asleep by 6:00
Message-ID: <9602211544.AA07710@jason.dcs.gla.ac.uk>
Weird things have been happening to me lately. It's happened 3 times in a row.
I was lying there in bed (swearing, because my damn skin was inside out),
and I'd just started listening to "Awake". By the end of "6:00", I was fast
asleep.
That was just an afternoon snooze. When I went to bed again that night, I
put on "Awake" again, because I'd slept through it earlier. Once again, I was
fast asleep by the end of "6:00".
This morning, when I woke up, I played the CD yet again, but I skipped "6:00".
I have been Awake ever since :-)
I think Aunt Kate and Mary Jane have been implanting subliminal messages into
my poor defenceless brain.
Graham B.
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| Graham Borland, borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk, http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~borlangw |::
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 96 17:07:41 +0000 (GMT)
From: Ernesto Schnack <ernie@ns1.pananet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1278
Message-ID: <199602211702.JAA05138@mindcrime.ax.com>
> I thought of a good idea...but I haven't a clue if it'll work. Let's
>hypothesize. (Hypothetically) It would be cool if we could get a drummer
>from the Jam to record himself playing a few DT songs. Then, send the tape
>to a guitarist to layer the guitar part over it...then send it to bass,
>keys, vocals...then we have a full recording. Then we could make a tape
>tree. We could do that any number of times, with different line-ups. Of
>course...I have no idea if that is possible. Can you record tracks over
>tracks on tapes like that? This is serious, btw. I think it would be nifty
>doodle if it worked.
>
I think this would be nifty doodle as well... but I think it would be even
better if we just made our own stuff... first a drummer would make something
up, then each guy would add his own part on the instrument, and then
hopefully the end result will be a very interesting result...THE MUSIC OF
THE YTSEJAM this would obviously be limited w/ musicians that own or have
access to a 4-track (I can be included. YIPEE!)... this would be really
interesting since the drummers would be the ones who make up the basic
structure of the song... pretty groovy... and then maybe we could some how
give the final 'composition' to DT to see what they think... well, anyways,
if this ever happens, I wanna do the guitars on the first try...if that's ok
w/ everybody...
BTW... hey jeff, I tried to email you my AFIL tab but I got it back as
failed mail....
> I myself would rather go to two concerts and see 120 minute sets by
>each, instead of 60 minute sets. I want my first concert-going experience
>to be a good one.
yeah i know, but I'm thinking as a DT fan AND a Rush fan...so if I go see
one of the 2 bands that I most wanna see live the other one happens to be
opening... and I'm sure DT would only open for them for a part of the tour
and go on their headlining tour...so then hopefull I'll get to see a full
show of DT... this is of course if both things happen in Germany which were
I'm gonna be during that point in time...
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PROCRASTINATION: It's a way of life!
This message brought to you by the PTP foundation(Proud to Procrastinate). A
non- profit organization dedicated to waiting for tomorrow to support
procrastination.
Ernie ernie@mail.pananet.com
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 12:58:59 -0500
From: DreamNDay@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1277
Message-ID: <960221125858_227696962@emout08.mail.aol.com>
>Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 02:49:13 EST
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>Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
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>
When the jam swithced to ax my application for a subsciription didn't go
right through, so I was jamless for a few days. Now I see this evey day. WHAT
IS THIS? WHAT DID I MISS?
later--------------Brian
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 12:58:54 -0500
From: DreamNDay@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Pro-Pain
Message-ID: <960221125853_227697021@emout04.mail.aol.com>
Just wondering, does anyone on the jam listen to (or heard of ) Pro-Pain?
Please e-mail me if you have
later--------------Brian
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 96 13:12:36 EST
From: rinverso@cosi.stockton.edu (Ryan Inverso)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Maiden in Philly...Birch Hill tapes
Message-ID: <memo.904866@cosi.stockton.edu>
Hey Jammers,
I just got done reading a review of the Maiden show in NYC and figured I
would put in my two cents on the show in Philly. Definitly awesome. I was
highly impressed by Blaze. God if you were far enough from the stage you
couldn't even tell that it wasn't Bruce.(looks wise....singing was close but
not that close). I was right up front in the pit and even that close the
sound was clear. As far as having Eddie on stage, the place where I saw
them(Electric Factory, this place is huge) could have definitly fit a
giant Eddie, the ceiling has got to be at least 500 feet high. So I was
wondering why he didn't make an appearance. But then I heard that they were
playing the Birch Hill a few days later and realized why Eddie sat out this
tour. I mean James practically had to bend over on the stage at that
place. Anyway if Maiden comes your way, definitly check them out. Don't be
discouraged by Bruce not being with them anymore like most of my friends
did. They are kicking themselves now for missing such a kick ass show.
Now for the DTC.....I was wondering how I could get my hands on a tape of
the Birch Hill show. That show will be one that I would never forget but
definitely like to relive. If anyone has any info as to how I could get a
copy please e-mail me at rinverso@cosi.stockton.edu. Thanx.
On with the jam and up the irons,
Ryan Inverso
KDR Pi Beta 66
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 12:44:38 -0600
From: napkins@clandjop.com (Seth Hatlelid)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Dream Theater covered
Message-ID: <v01510105ad5117d0806c@[204.71.98.39]>
Hiya Toe Jammers!
Thsi is a copy of the post I sent privatelt to Ben regarding his idea about
the Dream Theater cover C.D.
Hiya Ben!
Yes you can layer tracks (if you have access to a 4 track or studio time
{$40 per hour)
I'd love to lay some bass tracks, but how about this: what avbout taking
DT's lyrics and reinterpreting the songs. They would most likely be
simpler than the originals but wouldn't it be cool to have Pull Me Under as
Raggae, the Take The Time rap, Surrounded with a fiddlin country band, The
Killing Hand death metal! I know alot of closed minded DT purists would cry
"sacrialge!" and barbacue me balls, but I think it would be a fantastic way
to show our respect and appreciation for our favorite band. We could have
a C.D. made called "Strawberry and Ytse Jam-a Tribute to Dream Theater".
I'm serious about this. What do you think?
Cheers!
I think dream Theater would like this more than their fans just copying
their songs note for note (I hate playing cover songs but I love writing my
own)
Muchas Gracias!
napkins@clandjop.com
Seth Hatlelid
"Never shave while reading your email! It causes scarring and infertility!"
/ \_/ / ' ' '
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\_____/-\_\ ' ' ' girls?
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 14:16:35 -0500 (EST)
From: Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
To: DT List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: A birthday story...
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9602211425.D80703-0100000@acs5.bu.edu>
I just want to share a little story with you all. Yesterday was
my birthday, and it first it was just like any other day. Then, my
friend Alex called and told me that the part my power amp needed had
finally come in and my power amp was finallas you guitar players know,
when those pots start to go, it's about as much fun as getting
electricuted while getting bludgeoned while playing Nirvana songs -- very
frustrating). So now my whole guitar rig is complete once again! So
then I got my mail -- cards and money from the grandparents! People,
always remember -- grandparents rule!! So then I went to work from 6:30
to midnight, and when I got home, I basically had eleven people in my
room and there were balloons and streamers and cake and everything!! And
what did my two best buddies get me for my B-Day? JP's instructional
video!! (DTC) They know me too well... So basically it was a very
pleasant day! One of my best birthdays ever!
So then today I get a big ass package in the mail -- my best
friend, Stacy (Elliot and Doug M. know her...), sent me a skateboard!!
(long story) Wacky!
Anyway, I'm very sorry to have wasted all this space with
other-than-DT stuff, because I know there are Mail Item Format Warnings
you all could be reading right now... :)
Damon,
Your band doesn't want keyboards anymore? Ta hell wit 'em!! I
just so happen to be putting a band together and I could use a good keys
man.... :) And I can guarantee that the music is cooler than the shit
those guys were peddling! Unless, of course, it's yours... :)
Holy shit! Dream Theater is a bunch of junkies!! Damn! :)
I really should be watching that JP video now. Skadz, c'mon over!
Allrighty then, I guess that's all for now!
Talk to you all later, and I hope all of your birthdays are as pleasant as
mine was!
Brian
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 14:17:57 -0600 (CST)
From: Matt Rosin <msr7146@tam2000.tamu.edu>
To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: paradise lost
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960221141618.19274A-100000@tam2000.tamu.edu>
does anybody know if paradise lost is actually going to tour the US in
support of "draconian times"? i know they're touring europe right now.
someone please give me details if there are any to be had.
in the cd player--- tiamat: "wildhoney"
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PO Box 15315 * IMAGESCAPE: ambient-progressive metal
College Station, TX * Matt Rosin: vocals/synths/programming
77841-7315 * http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~msr7146/imagescape
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 15:50:47 EST
From: MJGU87C@prodigy.com (MR STEVE P SWEENEY)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Warning!!
Message-ID: <013.01741987.MJGU87C@prodigy.com>
Hey I'm a big DT fan (duh!) and I'm a Bucks County Community College
music major planning to either transfer to U of A...or Berklee
<fingers crossed>...
Steve
"Mallet Man"
Sweeney
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 16:36:59 -0500 (EST)
From: kristopher long <long16@matrix.newpaltz.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: the ball back?
Message-ID: <199602212137.QAA17452@matrix.newpaltz.edu>
Hey there, I don't know if there's any truth to this or not but I saw some
posts by some people on this thing on the internet that mentioned the return
of Headbanger's Ball. He said he talked to some guy from MTV Europe who
said it was coming back here. Then someone else said the host would be that
guy Domenick on the streets or whatever he was called. I don't know if this
is true or just a lump of bullshit. Can anybody help me? Because, it would
be really good if it did come back. Then I could see all my favorite videos
by Poison and Warrant and the Bulletboys (what the hell ever happened to all
those bands?) Does anybody know if it's really coming back?
Kris Long
"Time to make the donuts, you bastard!" - Arnold Schwartzenegger
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 96 14:38 PST
From: alex@cts.com (Steve Alexander)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1278
Message-ID: <m0tpNAh-0000f3C@crash.cts.com>
I have been getting stuff like this from your site the last two days. Please
remove me from your list. I sent the appropriate "unsubscribe" message and
got the reply that I am not on your list. Please look into this and get it
fixed.
Thank you,
- Steve
> YTSEJAM Digest 1278
>
>Today's Topics:
>
> 1) Mail Item Format Warning
> by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 02/20/96 - 22:30:01"
<response@ibmmail.com>
> 2) Birch Hill Show!!!
> by Kevin Rios <krios@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
> 3) Japanese ACOS, VAI CD for trade, Kotzen review
> by Michael.Bradley@mail.cc.trincoll.edu (Michael Bradley)
> 4) Eloquency and you.
> by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
> 5) MacAlpine!
> by dneff@maaco.com (David Neff)
> 6) Kotzenique
> by szucseue@saber.udayton.edu
> 7) another ASU person
> by YAP <auhcy@asu.edu>
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Steve Alexander - San Diego - 619-622-0515
Pick consulting, manufacturing, data conversion
Whatever you resist will persist.
Whatever you pursue will allude you.
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 17:20:09 -0500 (EST)
From: "Jonathan Byrne" <RRI02@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU>
To: "YtseJam" <ytsejam@AX.COM>
Subject: What's Up w/Metropolis?
Message-ID: <199602212242.OAA08307@mindcrime.ax.com>
Hey all,
I was just wondering if there is some problem with Metropolis, the "other"
DT list. I subscribed both to it and the new 'Jam at the same time, but
nothing has come from Metro's list (only tons and tons of 'Jams!). Is there
something wrong, of has there just not been any news for a while?
Can anybody tell me what's going on?
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"Ignorance has always been Jonathan Byrne
Something I excel in West Virginia University
Followed by naivete and pride." rri02@wvnvm.wvnet.edu
-Adiran Belew, "Dinosaur", King Crimson
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 14:51:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Drip, Drip, Drip
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91j.960221143818.136083A-100000@homer05.u.washington.edu>
> From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
> Subject: Re: Drinking Game Re-visited
>
> Well, just for the record, ...
>
> I don't think I could be better, I know I could be better.
Good answer! Whoever's taking down orders, put me down for one of these.
> And the best part is that my former band decided that they might not
> want keyboard players in their band anymore. So, I'm pounding the
> musical pavement. I feel so unloved.
This coming from the man who said he could replace all of us with his
keyboard-versatility? I am forced to chuckle. Chuckle chuckle.
---- > From: Darren Redick <yusckx@private.nethead.co.uk> > Subject: Tony MacAlpine > > Hey! Has anyone heard or seen Tony MacAlpine play? He's unbelievable!Oooh yeah!! He did a clinic in Tacoma in '94. I had never heard him before, just heard OF him, so I thought, "why not check it out?" To anyone who's thinking of seeing him play: the man likes it loud. I could hear his THUNDEROUS setup outside while parking the car. I didn't even have to walk inside, just sort of lean one direction and let the vibrating earth shift me there.
And there Tony stood, alone on a stage, two towers of amps on either side of him. The show gave me a good massage standing in the back, I couldn't imagine what the people up front were feeling. He did several tapping techniques that went from the 22nd-high-e fret all the way down to the 3rd-low-e fret, little two-second blurs executed perfectly every time. He even added the little Reb Beach vibrato-flourish where you leave your right hand hanging as your left does a hard vibrato on the last note.
He was a real friendly fellow, mentioning Chopin as one of his influences, saying he had recorded a few of the etudes on his albums. I wasn't familiar with MacAlpine's music, but this statement pricked up my ears. The only question I asked him was, "Do you still ever play the etudes?" to which he answered, "Oh yeah, all the time. I still practice." Now, I had never even seen the guy before that day, but that one fact of his discipline and ability was enough to gain my respect as a musician.
> I highly recommend checking him out. I think Petrucci fans will > completely dig him. He's a gtrist and keyboardist. Not too much in the > way of unusual time sigs but incredibly adept (maybe thats an > understatement).
Behold, the limits of language. You use up all the appropriate adjectives, and there's really nowhere else to go from there...
---- > From: "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com> > Subject: (U)A couple things > > First, the drinking game is hilarious!!! Best post in teh "long form" > category since the early "Ytse & Jam"s.
Obviously, we of the Dream Theater mailing list have a passion for long, complex songs. Here it would seem that by the same token, some of us coincidentally have a passion for long, complex posts!
"You can't get people's attention by just tapping them on the shoulder anymore. You have to hit them over the head with a sledgehammer...
Then you'll notice you have their strictest attention."
--John Doe, "Seven"
Bafu Vai
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 16:08:36 -0700 From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Geewhizjiminycrickets! Message-ID: <199602212308.QAA10720@maple.enet.net>
>Was it me but did Nicko add tons of double bass here and there along >wwith awesome ride patterns I've never noticed...everything was so >crisp live.....Nicko never sounded so good...totally blew my ass away. >Especially when he added all that double bass to the last half of "Iron >Maiden"...FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here's how to solve it....did his drum set have two bass drums???
Harold of the Rocks
Go buy yourself some Bombay Vindaloo, play the Ytsejam Drinking game then stay till 6:00 puking your guts out!!!!
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