YTSEJAM Digest 1284
Today's Topics:
1) Re: falsetto
by Jeremy P Lakatos <afn39111@afn.org>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1280
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
3) JP's Bogus Drug Confession
by Steven & Julia Young <syoung@primenet.com>
4) Falsetto
by Scott Daugherty <SRDAUGZ2@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
5) Strawberries and Ytse Jam
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
6) The #ytsejam IRC Drinking Game
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
7) DT Record Sales
by Gilbert Jack Thetgyi <thetgyi@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
8) Please, Dear god!
by John Hough <srvrip@qualcomm.com>
9) HELP A FRIEND GET ON THE JAM
by The Great John Nguyen <nuprin@wichita.fn.net>
10) Really Bad News!! :(
by augie@unix.asb.com (Heath)
11) superior/amazing
by Karri K Kiviluoma <kkiviluo@snakemail.hut.fi>
12) New release and stuff
by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 18:37:36 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeremy P Lakatos <afn39111@afn.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: falsetto
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.960221181718.33960B-100000@freenet2.freenet.ufl.edu>
On Tue, 20 Feb 1996 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> From: MJGU87C@prodigy.com (MR STEVE P SWEENEY)
> thought falsetto made you voice sound real thin because your pretty
> much just singing up in your throat....everything I've heard James
Thinner than usual, maybe, and you probably don't want to use it all
the time, but briefly it can be cool.
Example: Queensryche, "Take Hold of the Flame," end of first verse
and at end of one of the later choruses (more briefly). That immense
high note. That's falsetto, I think (Geoff seems to be naturally a
baritone, and this note doesn't sound the same as usual).
> sing has always very full and clear... also every experience with
IMO, not quite, especially live (Geddy could scream, FORCE those high
notes, but I'm not sure about James). And if I compare James' singing
when he's down at a medium pitch, I find it a bit warmer down low
(ex: "I look at the world and see no understanding" vs. "Spread before
you is your soul" parts of "Learning to Live").
jeremy <*> afn39111@afn.org (At the Society for Creative Euthanasia...)
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 19:55:36 -0500 (EST)
From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1280
Message-ID: <199602220055.TAA17724@umbc9.umbc.edu>
Hey gang, whats up?
I must have had some sort of problem when I tried to subscribe about 2
weeks ago. I thought I did everything right but I never received
anything. I just resubbed yesterday and here is my 1st Ytsejam.
Did I miss anything good in the last two weeks or did we just go back
to Ytsejam of old were everybody flamed everybody else and spoke of
everything BUT Dream Theater?
I guess I'll make a new sig to celebrate the new mailing list. :)
WATCH FOR IT!
-- ************************************************************************** * Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu * * * * You're fighting the weight of the world, * * and no one can save you this time. * * Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. * * * * "Take the Time" - Dream Theater * **************************************************************************------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 19:20:58 -0700 From: Steven & Julia Young <syoung@primenet.com> To: "'Ystejam Digest'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: JP's Bogus Drug Confession Message-ID: <01BAFEFF.98283F40@ip201.tus.primenet.com>
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To the major MORON who posted this on the Jam (#1278) -- just what the = FREAK is your problem? Is it that you HOPE they do drugs so you can feel = justified in doing so yourself? Did you really think anybody would buy = that load of CRAP? I mean, sure, maybe have "dabbled with the deadly" = once in a while (although I'd just as soon believe that they haven't), = but I'd rather hear it from the REAL JP, if you don't mind. Finally, if = you're going to try and poison DT's image, you could at least refer to a = CD cover to find out the correct spelling of PETRUCCI!!! (One T, "John") = And maybe fill us in on the drug habits of KEVIN & DEREK while you're at = it. Get real.=20
To the REAL JP and the rest of DT: On behalf of the rest of us Ytsejammers, the most profound of apologies = for the bogus JP letter -- and forgive the offender for he knows not = what he does.
And to all other 'Jammers -- let's drop the whole stupid drug subject = altogether, okay? It just isn't important and it's a waste of the time = we could be spending reading more interesting and RELEVANT posts. = -Thanx.=20
Also, regarding what may already be a beat-to-death subject, I think all = of you 'Anti-Derek's' should lay off of Mr. Sherinian and cut him some = slack (Damn, I'm being attacked by clich=E9s!). I mean, hell, if DT = allowed the guy to bear their sacred name and replace the seemingly = irreplacible Kevin Moore, I think we ought to show the same respect for = him and accept DT's choice. So far, I, for one, have not been = disappointed. Keep it up, Derek. =20
Steve from Tucson syoung@primenet.com
"Things are getting just a little bit scary -- it's a wonder I can still = breathe." - DT =20
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 96 19:25:22 EST From: Scott Daugherty <SRDAUGZ2@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU> To: The Jam <YTSEJAM@AX.COM> Subject: Falsetto Message-ID: <960221.193809.EST.SRDAUGZ2@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
About James singing in falsetto:
I would say that you can pretty much bank on the fact that anytime you hear James singing a relatively high passage that it's in his falsetto voice. Your falsetto voice has nothing to do with your body style or build, anymore than your general vocal range does (whether your're a bass or tenor, etc.). I'm not a concert singer but I do sing in choruses and some times the men are required to sing in falsetto for high pitches, such as D or E above middle C. I'll agree that the sound is a little weaker, but if you sing really loud it can be quite strong, and James probably sings quite loudly while on stage. So my conclusion is that high passages are always sung in falsetto, that includes James, Goeff Tate, and certainly Ray Alder. Of course this fact doesn't make the music any less fantastic, it's merely an observation. Trey, I think you would be a good one to discuss singing, wouldn't you?
Enjoy the rest of the jam,
Scott Daugherty
ps in a little while I'm gonna post my controversial thoughts about keyboard players, stay tuned! :)
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 19:40:36 -0700 From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Strawberries and Ytse Jam Message-ID: <199602220240.TAA17711@maple.enet.net>
Hi! I find myself really wanting to do this Dream Theater Tribute thing! Lets see how many people are interested!! Mike Bahr: If we get the necessary people/funding/time, would you be interested in helping out?
If this DOES work, I've got dibs on the drums on The Ytse Jam!!! :-)
Ytse-Ben...it's what's for dinner.
I think, therefore I am. You think you think, therefore you possibly are. I am Ben Laussade....therefore I aren't.
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 22:04:00 -0500 (EST) From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu> To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: The #ytsejam IRC Drinking Game Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9602212220.A13657-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
Okay folx, due to the popularity of the Ytsejam Drinking Game, E-Man and I thought we'd hop on the bandwidthwagon and respond with:
The #ytsejam IRC Drinking Game
The same disclaimer applies. The rules are slightly different, but the objective is the same.
Bottoms up!
Take a sip if...
Take a sip for each person that's signed on when you first sign on. Someone signs on. Two sips if they're auto-opped. An additional sip for each exclamation point in an enthusiastic greeting. (i.e. "D-Man!!!!!!!") Someone signs off. Someone says they have work to do and must sign off. Someone loses their connection. Someone makes a typo. A user's e-mail address shows up as an IP number. Someone says BRB. Someone types just a smiley. Someone types just a winkie smiley. Someone types just a frown face. Someone says, "Check out my web page." Someone mentions any URL. [added] Two sips if it's not his or her home page. Someone does a /me command. Someone quotes lyrics. 2 sips if it's a DT lyric. Someone mentions what CD they're listening to. 2 sips if you own it. Bigman makes popcorn. Anyone changes the topic. Someone mentions Jennifer Aniston. Someone says something sucks. Someone mentions his or her significant other.
Take a gulp if...
Take a gulp for every half-hour you're signed on. Someone gets un-opped. Someone who isn't auto-opped gets opped. A newbie signs on. A newbie starts off by asking a DT-related question. Someone's nick is in all lowercase. Someone's nick is all caps. Someone's nick is alternating caps and lowercase a la NuGgEtMaN. Someone you've met in person is signed on. One gulp for each person you've met. Someone uses a band member's name as their nick. Someone changes their nick. Two gulps if they change it to something resembling a band member's name. Someone's nick starts with "Ytse." Someone changes their nick to imitate the D-Man or the E-Man. Someone addresses another person by their real name. (Ben Laussade excluded. Ytse-Ben is a pain in the ass to type out so we call him Ben anyway.) Ben Laussade says he's wearing pants. Ben Laussade says he's not wearing pants. Augie changes the topic to "The Electric Version of The Silent Man Rules!" Someone tells a joke. Someone mentions sports. Someone has a new significant other.
Half-chug if...
Someone starts talking about DT. Newbies excluded. Someone signs off by kicking himself off the channel. Someone gets kicked off the channel. Two people switch nicks. D-Man charges up the Digital Walruspult(tm). Wisha says something. A Jammer signs on from outside the U.S. An AOL'er somehow manages to sign on. You send or recieve a DCC. A member of a band you've heard of signs on (i.e. Shadow Gallery). Someone mentions a Mike Bahr CD. Someone has a new ex-significant other. Someone mentions any genitalia. Nobody has ops. (Full chug if not even Skadz has ops.)
Full chug if...
Skadz is not signed on. Skadz says something. Skadz gets kicked. Ben Laussade is signed on on a school night. Augie is in a good mood. The record of 16 users is ever broken. Augie changes the topic to something other than "The Electric Version of The Silent Man Rules!!!" You send or receive a DCC of a nudie pic. Someone is banned from the channel.
Drink everything in sight if...
An actual member (past or present) of DT signs on. NuGgEtMan returns.
Have fun! -Elliott and Chris
Elliott Kim Florida International University ekim01@fiu.edu ekim01@servax.fiu.edu
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 23:51:05 -0500 (EST) From: Gilbert Jack Thetgyi <thetgyi@bgnet.bgsu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT Record Sales Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9602212308.A15739-0100000@bgnet1.bgsu.edu>
Sending the Bill of Rights to President Clinton is like sending John Petrucci Mel Bay's Guitar Method, Volume 1. What's the point? Anyway, I was wondering if anyone knew how many copies each of DT's albums (including WDADU) and the ACoS EP (thanks Neil) have sold. Also, have any gone gold, platinum, or multi-platinum?
Sincerely,
G. Jack Thetgyi -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- G. Jack Thetgyi thetgyi@bgnet.bgsu.edu "Any movie with wakka-cha-wakka in it is okay by me." -Tom Servo, Mystery Science Theater 3000 #512: "Mitchell" --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 21:56:30 -0800 From: John Hough <srvrip@qualcomm.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Please, Dear god! Message-ID: <199602220556.VAA04739@tyler.qualcomm.com>
>Hey ytse-Dudes, > There has been alot of talk on the jam as to whether I or any other member of Dream Theater use drugs. Well of course we do. How the fuck do you think we play so damn fast. I personally smoke three viles of crack before each show. Mike snorts about ten lines. and John M. Shoots up a shitload of heroin. That's how he stays so layed back when he plays those outragous bass lines during ytsejam. Also I would like to ask that Mike Bahr please stop making Boots of us. YOU ARE STEALING OUR RECORD SALES. Well I got to go....I have a Kilo of weed with my name on it. >Later, >John Pettrucci >
BRING BACK THE MODERATION! John Hough - srvrip@qualcomm.com
..When I woke up Mom & Dad were rolling on the couch, rolling numbers rock and rolling got my KISS records out.....
Cheap Trick
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 00:16:03 -0600 (CST) From: The Great John Nguyen <nuprin@wichita.fn.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: HELP A FRIEND GET ON THE JAM Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.960222001253.21330A-100000@wichita.fn.net>
Hello all jammers, I have a friend named Andrew and he can't get subscribed to the list. He's tried e-mailing everyone on the administrative side of th eJAM and has gotten no respnse for a week. Could someone help him out. His address is ytsejam@UDel.Edu and he can't get subscribed. Someone get in contact with him...please. He desparately needs help...especially from the Jam's administrators (he's been trying to email you guys for a week! someone answer him!!). Thanks for any help he gets... John Nguyen
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 01:40:01 -0500 From: augie@unix.asb.com (Heath) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Really Bad News!! :( Message-ID: <v02130502ad51ba943c45@[165.254.128.50]>
All I'm doing right now is copying an article out of Saturday, February 17th's New York Newsday from the Obituaries sections writen by Sandra Saslovsky.
JOHN PETRUCCI, FOUNDER OF COMPUTER SOFTWARE FIRM
John Edward Petrucci, of Kings Park, a former professor at Hofstra University and founder of a computer software company and a computer software network, died of cancer Tuesday (February 13) at St. Johns Episcopal Hospital in Smithtown. He was 55. Mr. Petrucci was born and raised in Brooklyn. He graduated in 1963 from City College of New York with a bachelor's degree in Electrical Engineering in 1963. He went on to earn a master's degree in systems sciences from the Polytechnic Institute of Brooklyn. He completed doctoral studies in Professional Services at PAce University. In the 1970s, Mr. Petrucci taught computer math at Hofstra. In the 1980s, Mr. Petrucci left Hofstra and started Stanhope Associates, a computer software company, that operated in Commack, Deer Park, and Kings Park before closing last year when he became ill. During his years at Stanhope, Mr. Petrucci started Lincup, the Long Island Chapter of Network Users International, a group that shares computer software. He served as Lincup president from the founding about five years ago until December. Mr. Petrucci had served as a Eucharistic Minister giving communion at mass at St. Joseph's Roman Catholic Church in Kings Park since 1983. He also served on the church's financial board for the last 10 years. "He was known for his smile," said his wife of more than 32 years, Rosann Billera. "He was an exceptional human being who will be missed." Mr. Petrucci married Billera in 1963, and the couple moved to Deer Park. Two years later, they moved to Kings Park. Besides his wife Rosann Billera, Mr. Petrucci is survived by two sons, John Jr. of Hackensack, N.J., and Christopher of Rochester; and two daughters, Susan Bakunas of Smithtown and Joyce Petrucci of Kings Park. He is also survived by his mother, Sue Petrucci of Brooklyn, a sister, Diane Manza of Staten Island, and twin grandchilden. Services are this morning at 9:30 at ST. Joseph's R.C. Church in Kings Park. Burial will be at St. Charles Cemetery in Farmingdale.
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John, my heart is with you and I'm sure all the other jammers hearts are also. We hope that you can stay strong through this tough time.
Please everyone when you read this give ten seconds of silence for the memory of John Edward Petrucci, I very special guy.
Thanks.
Heath Augustover
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:32:32 +0200 (EET) From: Karri K Kiviluoma <kkiviluo@snakemail.hut.fi> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: superior/amazing Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960222121943.15284A-100000@lk-hp-13.hut.fi>
Heya folks!
Please mail me the address of the dude who's selling the Superior cd in US. I'd really like to get that and I lost his name and address somewhere =P. It was hmmm Jason... Giles?Skewes? somethig like that. Sorry for not remembering but if you read this please mail me ! =)
Yes, this REALLY is a DT content. Don't be afraid. I was fidlling with my 'puter and the tv was on beside me. Err...I wasn't on, but the tv was, which was by my side. (I know, I know. A lame attempt at the compulsory humor =). Anyways all of a sudden I hear 'Erotomania' playing! I was dumbfounded. It was the end music of this one sports prog- ram, with dudes crosscountry skiing =) And this wasn't even the first time. I think I heard it before too in some basketball game on tv, but couldn't be sure (maybe it was just my brain resonating =). Now you have to remember this is Finland with most of the programs utilising pretty conservative music. Now especiially these sports ones are changing the tune so to speak. I'm excited!!! Now I have to watch all those crappy sports stuff just to see iif this continues =P
Bye for now.
-= Karri.Kiviluoma@hut.fi =- Email: kkiviluo@snakemail.hut.fi < " Hmm...uhh...lemme think...." > < - metryingtofigureoutsome > < thingwitty&funny >
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 96 15:14:53 +0100 From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop) To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: nga@server3.software-ag.de Subject: New release and stuff Message-ID: <9602221414.AA00225@sundoc13.software-ag.de>
Hi all
I apologise now for writing in a high-pitched voice, but this is because I've had my balls blown off by a new release (no, unfortunately not by Dream Theater) I am refering to the new Sepultura CD "Roots". If, to quote Mike Portnoy, "balls and chunk is where it's at", then this album is definitely there. I bought the CD blind, without having heard any of it: I then shot home, cranked up the volume and scraped myself off the wall. Talk about hard and powerful - listening to this is like having your spine massaged with a pneumatic drill, only it's more fun. I liked "Chaos AD" but this album is a quantum leap forward. If you get a chance to listen to it, do, especially the first track "Roots Bloody Roots" (sounds like a good name for another ystecocktail). I don't think it has been released on the other side of the pond yet, but be assured, the long wait since "Chaos AD" was well worth it. This album is better than sex, and at 70 minutes (digipack with 3 bonus tracks, including a killer live version of Kaiowas) it certainly lasts as long!
OK, now for some more bits and pieces, some of which are nearly DT-related.
1. The Dream Theater/Rush thing. My 2 pfennigs-worth about this is that I wouldn't like to see it happen. One reason, as some of you have already pointed out, is that Dream Theater would end up playing a short set, which would (Beavis mode on) suck in ways that things haven't sucked before (Beavis mode off). They could possibly do something like Metallica did with Guns'n'Roses where each band took turns to headline, but I digress. Another reason is that I have never really liked Rush that much, that I would want to see them (my opinion only). I would prefer to see Dream Theater headline, supported by a lesser known band who don't necessarily play progressive: my current choices would be Lake Of Tears or Conception.
2. Ben L. recently commented about the German band Blind Guardian, saying that he didn't like the singer, and that this opinion is based on some sound bites off the web. Well, Ben's entitled to his opinion, but I think we should all be careful of passing sentence on the basis of small take-outs that are usually of pretty bad quality. Just imagine what somebody might think of Dream Theater if all they had heard was a 30 second slice of something off the first album with Charlie singing (OK, I know some of you like his voice). I rest my case.
3. Can anybody tell me where I can get the new Superior CD "Behind"? There has been a lot of praise on the jam, and it sounds like the sort of CD I ought to have in my collection. The guy from my local CD dealer said that it doesn't exist!
4. Drinks time again. Here is my proposed receipe for a "Bombay Vindaloo": equal measures of Absolute vodka and Campbell's beef consomee (both ice-cold) put in a blender with a jalapeno pepper. Strain into a glass and garnish with fresh mint leaves. I haven't tried it yet, but I think it could be quite good. I'll let you know.
5. Thanks to whoever it was that proposed Skyclad's "Silent Whales of Lunar Sea" as best album of 95 in my recent poll. I picked it up yesterday, and it is very good. I can only describe the musical direction as folk metal - well worth checking out. Their new album "Irrational Anthem" is the album of the month in the German music magazine Metal Hammer.
OK, enough from me and on with the jam.
stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de)
Currently playing: Sepultura - Roots (what else did you expect today??)
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