YTSEJAM digest 1297

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Tue Feb 27 1996 - 13:43:30 EST

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 1297

    Today's Topics:

      1) Mail Item Format Warning
     by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 02/27/96 - 11:43:42" <response@ibmmail.com>
      2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1296
     by qghost@postoffice.ptd.net (Ghost)
      3) Rant & Rave
     by fitipmol@ibmmail.com
      4) Re: opening for Maiden?
     by Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
      5) The King of the Jam
     by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
      6) what's with the forwards?
     by Matt Rosin <msr7146@tam2000.tamu.edu>
      7) hairball?
     by john galt <syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
      8) Trey's shirts
     by BILL HUSTON <HUSTON@IOMEGA.COM>
      9) testing
     by thunder@UFCC.UFL.EDU
     10) "Como se dice Laussade?" and the future (I'm feeling kinda spooky)
     by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
     11) John Petrucci sound,.
     by thunder@UFCC.UFL.EDU
     12) subscribe
     by CHORVAT@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU
     13) DT on the radio!
     by Glenn Waterfield <lwaterfi@eecs.uic.edu>
     14) Abbreviations and Pronounciations
     by Elliott Kim <ekim01@fiu.edu>
     15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1296
     by DjEbacher@aol.com
     16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1295
     by DjEbacher@aol.com
     17) BafuPost on BahrBootlegs
     by JamesArin@aol.com
     18) Derek is not gay
     by Greg Chew <grc8@columbia.edu>

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    Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 06:44:33 EST
    From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 02/27/96 - 11:43:42" <response@ibmmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
    Message-ID: <199602271144.DAA02815@mindcrime.ax.com>

    The mail item that you sent at 11:44:27 GMT on 27 Feb 1996 has been delivered.

    However, it has been necessary to convert this item into a
    format that is acceptable to the recipient, FITIPMOL at IBMMAIL.
    Information beyond column 79 in the mail item will have been wrapped.

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    Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 08:06:30 -0500 (EST)
    From: qghost@postoffice.ptd.net (Ghost)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1296
    Message-ID: <199602271306.IAA18359@ns1.ptd.net>

    WHY ARE THERE SO MANY??!! How can you possibly read all these? I get 3
    Ytsejams per every 1 of the other newsletters I subscribe to.

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    Ghost qghost@postoffice.ptd.net
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    "Ding!"
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         Hemispheres, I. Prelude, Rush (1978)
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          http://www.webcom.com/qghost/
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    Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 08:10:49 EST
    From: fitipmol@ibmmail.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Rant & Rave
    Message-ID: <199602271311.FAA03464@mindcrime.ax.com>

      
      
      
      
      
      
    --- Saapunut 03.MAPE 90-4694432 27-02-96 14.37
      -> IBMMAIL.INTERNET IBM IMX
      
    Hi everyone!
      
    Now as someone (I assume it was Skadz) has liberated us from the
    evil 'Mail Item etc...'- stuff and gotten me out of the doghouse,
    I finally dare to open my mouth...Skadz, if you stop by here in
    Finland, I'll buy you a beer. Any of our local beers tastes way
    better than those fermentation bin washings you drink over there.
    With the possible exception of Michelob. (IMO, of course)
      
      
    My vote in the 'President of the 'jam' election would have to go
    to Bafu because Ytse-Ben is a minor, and that prevents him to
    work efficiently in any administrative position. Both Bafu and
    Ben are equally warped (positive) and at least I would not have
    as much fun reading these if either one was missing, so it's a
    tough call to elect between them. The above serves as a plausible
    excuse to make some kind of difference.
      
    There's been so much babble about Mr. Sherinians sexuality and
    Ms. Amos and other as unimportant topics that I'm starting to
    wonder if any of the posting persons ever has anything better
    to do that to deliberately raise waves in the 'jam....
      
    When talking about this DT tribute thingy, has anyone thought of
    the possibility of making a prog-rock symphony? The jam has a
    shitload of musicians on it and that means tons and tons of
    possible contributors. Some of the more acknowledged musicians
    (Jay Peele? Bernd Basmer?) could compose the whole thing, one
    part of the Ytsepopulation could make the required guitar and
    bass tabs. The composer could tell the lyricists(sp?) what the
    composition's theme is and select the best lyrics amongst the
    entries for the final song. This way there could be multiple
    drummers and percussionists and this means all sorts of neat
    polyrhythmics. How would a wall of fifteen guitars sound like?
    Or five sets of keyboards? Battle of two basses? A choir?
    Just a thought.....
      
    Has anyone thought out a competitive version of either of the
    drinking games?
      
    And for the ones wondering how to understand women, how's this
    one? Back when I&W was the only DT CD I had, she loved every
    song on it. When I bought Awake and she heard about ten first
    beats of 6:00, she decided DT was too jazzy for her and has
    refused to listen to any DT material (including I&W) ever since.
    Now would any of the female jammers inform me what can this kind
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
    of behavior be based upon? Any amateur psychologists out there?
      
    Last week my local music store pissed me in the eye. They boast
    that they can acquire any CD in the world just by getting the
    record company label, band and CD title. I tested this and they
    told me that they cant acquire Angra's 'Angel's Cry' bcoz it's a
    Japanese import, and they had never gotten ANY information about
    either Superior or Ivanhoe. Now I need a way to purchase these
    CD's without having to pay International Money Orders. Bernd
    Basmer has helped me concerning the Superior CD, but the other
    ones would cost me about forty bucks apiece. That's too much.
    Would any of the Finnish jammers (Karri K.K. or someone else)
    be interested in making a group order of Angra's or Ivanhoe's
    CD's?
      
    As of how have I gotten into DT it happened when I was winding
    through a tape of Headbangers Ball. As usual there was none of
    my fave bands in it and I started rewinding the tape and hit
    play when I saw some very agile keyboarding. What hit me in the
    head was the drumwork. As everyone has guessed by now, the video
    was TTT. I listened the drummer for a while and rewinded the
    song to the beginning and listened it about a dozen times. Until
    then I had been very convinced that there's no match for QRyche
    on this planet, but my world hasn't been the same since. So don't
    tell MTV is of no use. It got me into DT.
      
    It seems this got a bit long. But on the other hand what's
    bandwidth for if not wasting? Bye for now.
      
    Mape
    - The foreigner who by some sources got subscribed accidentally
      and doesn't know how to unsubscribe.-

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    Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 08:21:41 -0500 (EST)
    From: Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: opening for Maiden?
    Message-ID: <UlAkJZC00WBNI12soy@andrew.cmu.edu>

    Excerpts from mail.ytsejam: 26-Feb-96 opening for Maiden? by Conrad
    Chi@mcl.ucsb.edu
    > Does anybody know who is opening for Maiden on this U.S.
    > tour?

    Fear Factory. They're pretty cool unless you have something against
    death metal.
    I saw the show Friday night, and both bands were bloody awesome.

    -Max

    Anton Max
    Keyboards, Aepithex
    MadMax+@cmu.edu

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    Date: Tue, 27 Feb 96 14:23:10 +0100
    From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Cc: nga@server3.software-ag.de
    Subject: The King of the Jam
    Message-ID: <9602271323.AA00292@sundoc13.software-ag.de>

    hi all

    Brian, aka DreamNDay, recently asked who we would vote to be king of the Jam.
    Bafu? No: too sane. Ben? No: too old. I propose the most frequent contributor,
    everybody's friend, "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL". This guy doesn't vary his postings
    much, but he is very persistant. All hail King RESPONSE!! But why be satisfied
    with just a king: why not a queen too?

    I promise this next bit will be my last contribution to the ytse-drinks game.
    The ultimate booze for all true-blooded jammers has got to be the Metropolis
    (so lime port). The answer was staring us in the face all the time, and we were
    to stupid to see it. Did anybody realize that Ytsejam is not quite a palindrome
    of Majesty? I must start taking the tablets again.

    Moving on, we come to the next point that has been puzzling me (some DT content
    here, folks). There is a lot of stuff posted here saying that Dream Theater and
    progressive music in general deserve more attention and a wider audience, but
    there is also a lot of stuff (sometimes from the same people) saying they want
    the concerts to remain small and personal, thus making for a troop of exclusive
    elitists who can still look down on the rabble who don't like/understand
    demanding music such as that played by a lot of prog bands. Hm, looks like a
    small dilemma or personality disorder there, nurse. Does anybody have a sensible
    answer to this little teazer?

    And finally, a positive note to end on. Somebody recently praised the fact that
    there are a lot of music tips being thrown around on the jam, and that people
    are getting to listen to new/unknown bands and music as a result of these tips.
    I can only agree whole-heartedly. Without the jam I would never have heard of
    Vanden Plas, Superior or Skyclad - keep those tips coming.

    PS Does anyone know when "Dearly Beheaded" are going to release their album?

    stay safe and happy listening
    Neil Gallop
    (nga@software-ag.de)

    Currently playing: Biohazard - State of the World Address

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    Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 08:33:41 -0600 (CST)
    From: Matt Rosin <msr7146@tam2000.tamu.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: what's with the forwards?
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960227083200.69D-100000@tam2000.tamu.edu>

    why do people keep post those presidential "do you remember the bill of
    rights?" forwards to the jam? i'm sure most of us have already found
    that forward in our mailboxes at least several times already, so give it
    a rest, people.

    <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
    Matt Rosin * SURREALITY: ambient-experimental
    PO Box 15315 * IMAGESCAPE: ambient-progressive metal
    College Station, TX * Matt Rosin: vocals/synths/programming
             77841-7315 * http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~msr7146/imagescape
    msr7146@tam2000.tamu.edu * email: imagescape@tamu.edu
    <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

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    Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 09:56:33 -0500 (EST)
    From: john galt <syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
    To: Yitz-see-jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: hairball?
    Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.960227095555.26919B-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>

    .if anyone wants any info on hairball, ask me. i know how to get in
    touch with him.

    syrinx.

    -----------------------------------------------------
    | "..don't you wanna rule the world a little bit, |
    | who to help and who to leave to swim? |
    | you could better everything, the serpent said |
    | in your own peculiar way |
    | history would honour you no matter what you did |
    | don't you really wanna try?" - tony banks |
    | * * * * * * * * * * * * |
    | mike ostrich email: syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu |
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    Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 08:49:53 -0700
    From: BILL HUSTON <HUSTON@IOMEGA.COM>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Trey's shirts
    Message-ID: <s132c4d6.028@IOMEGA.COM>

    Jammers,
       Just wanted to say that Trey's sweat shirts were underrated! I got
    mine yesterday and they indeed turned out better than I imagined. I'm
    wearing it to work today and getting lots of comments and am finding
    out who the closet fans are :> I also have one of Jason Giles t
    shirts and it too is quality stuff. If any of you haven't ordered a
    shirt from either of these guys you're missing out. Next time you get
    an opportunity, take it.
       BTW, Ytse-Ben and Bafu Vai (my baby cockatiels I wrote about
    earlier, not the real ones) are doing well. They're ugly as hell
    right now but all baby birds are. When they're juveniles then I can
    sell them and that will make all the sleepless nights worthwhile.

    Later,
    Wilmo

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    Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 11:26:14 EST
    From: thunder@UFCC.UFL.EDU
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: testing
    Message-ID: <0099E88E.DE0FAE20.10@UFCC.UFL.EDU>

    testis, testis, one, two,.....three???

    Lata

    Thunder
    PS excuse my waste of bandwidth.....

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    Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 11:30:55 -0500 (EST)
    From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
    To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: "Como se dice Laussade?" and the future (I'm feeling kinda spooky)
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9602271130.A9222-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>

    > From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
    > Subject: Laussade
    >
    > Low (rhymes with cow) Ssade (like Marquis de Sade, rhymes with "bod")
    > Or maybe Low (rhymes with bow) Ssade (same)

    I always thought it was either "Luh-Sawed" or "Luh-Sahhed." How do you
    say "Ytse-Ben," anyway?

    ---
    

    > From: KTYA28B@prodigy.com (MS DEBBIE M VESTAL) > Subject: 10 years later... > > For instance....where do you folks on the Jam think Dream Theater will be > in 10 years? What changes do you think there will be in their music...in > their lyrics....stage presentation....pant sizes.....keyboardists...etc?

    Hmm, let's see. In 10 years, I think that Dream Theater will have changed its name to Dream Theatre, to appease all the fans that can't spell. Their seventh album, "It's What's For Dinner," will include "Metropolis, Part IV: The Ytsejam Drinking Game and the #ytsejam Drinking Game." Derek Sherinian will have announced that he's bisexual and will have been replaced by Tori Amos. John Petrucci will have been replaced by Bafu Vai, since JP's going to be in prison for beating an old EVH to death with a JPM 400. They will have toured with Rush, but very few people will have liked it, even though they thought they would. Oh, and they will have gotten rid of EastWest, and signed with Prism Records.

    Ok, now for a serious answer: I think that about four or five years from now Dream Theater will be what Nirvana was about four or five years ago. That is to say, everyone will be "discovering" prog-rock-metal-whatever because EastWest smelled the coffee and did a little promotion. And what they will be discovering is the new DT single, much the same way that "Teen Spirit" broke open the grunge scene. However, I also think that Dream Theater is going to ride the crest of that wave for a long time and not die out like Nirvana did. Rather, I see all the prog bands like DT, Fates, Shadow Gallery, etc., helping each other out. As for us, we'll still be around, 'jamming like always. Except some of us will probably be teleconferencing, instead of reading e-mail. And we'll probably be watching the band on this infernal metal box as well.

    Then again, maybe they'll just go disco.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------ \|/ ____ \|/ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "@'/ ,. \`@" cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" /_| \__/ |_\ d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ \__U_/ http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/

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    Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 11:33:18 EST From: thunder@UFCC.UFL.EDU To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: John Petrucci sound,. Message-ID: <0099E88F.DAD219E0.36@UFCC.UFL.EDU>

    c c

    mv m

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    Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 10:02:22 -0500 (EST) From: CHORVAT@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU To: YTSEJAM@anthor.arastar.com Subject: subscribe Message-ID: <01I1PCRQAFJM0057FC@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU>

    subscribe

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    Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 10:51:52 -0600 (CST) From: Glenn Waterfield <lwaterfi@eecs.uic.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT on the radio! Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960227104309.19782A-100000@bert.eecs.uic.edu>

    Hi everyone!

    I actually heard Dream Theater on the radio last night! That has to be the first time since I used to hear PMU back... when the hell was that?

    I recently found a metal station (thank the Lord!) here in Chicago. They're only on after 10pm, but it's a start. Anyway, they played Lie and LSoaD BACK TO BACK! Can you believe it? And they played the ZEP medley a couple of days before. I'm complelely in awe.

    LSoaD contrasted nicely with the Motorhead they had played a few minutes earlier. :)

    The station is 103.1 Rebel Radio if you're in the area.

    Cheers! (since I actually spelled out DT earlier) Glenn

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ L. Glenn Waterfield "Listen brain; I don't like you and you don't "Physics advisor like me, so let's just get this over with so to the stars" I can get back to killing you with beer." Argonne National Lab -- Homer J. Simpson LWaterfi@Bert.eecs.uic.edu Waterfld@Desire.et.anl.gov ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 11:52:34 -0500 (EST) From: Elliott Kim <ekim01@fiu.edu> To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Abbreviations and Pronounciations Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960227114408.11131A-100000@solix>

    Im-HO, D T is the best band out there. My favorite album, is "Widadoo." And my favorite songs from that album are "To Whats Its," "El-Fagga," and "Oh-Mot." On their next album, "Eye and Double-ewe," there are some real killer songs like, "Oo-ah-g'm," "Wufuss," and "little." Highlights from Awake include "El-Soad," and "Amby." I just couldn't get enough of this band, so I went out and bought "Ay-Cose." Then I got on the internet and subscribed to the Ytsejam. I saw Bafu Vai's posts and I was "Rot-Flame-Oh."

    . . .. Elliott Kim Florida International University .. . ekim01@fiu.edu E-Man@dreamt.org . _ . _ _ _ . _ _ _ _ . .

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    Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 12:00:47 -0500 From: DjEbacher@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1296 Message-ID: <960227120045_432826446@emout04.mail.aol.com>

    mebacher

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    Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 12:14:21 -0500 From: DjEbacher@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1295 Message-ID: <960227121418_432835755@mail06.mail.aol.com>

    For those who like Fates Warning As Well,

    Fates has lost Frank Aresti and has add Andre Corbin (Helstar) for the future tour. The new album will be out in early summer. The CD will have one song and will be 45 to 60 Min. in length.

    Dave

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    Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 13:02:32 -0500 From: JamesArin@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: BafuPost on BahrBootlegs Message-ID: <960227130231_334613354@mail04.mail.aol.com>

    >> From: JamesArin@aol.com >> Subject: CD dubs of Mike Bahr's SUBCONSCIOUS >> >> Fellow YTSEJAMMERS sit down before you hurt yourselves. Yes it is >> true I can make you a copy of SUBCONSCIOUS on CD. Now before you mess >> yourself understand that this is a COPY and it is not an original from >> some secret stock pile.

    >Can anyone tell me what such recordings would be called? Booty-bootlegs? >Double-bypass bootlegs? Bahr-legs?

    He! He! I think it would have to be BahrBootlegs said almost like a stutter. :^)

    >> It WILL sound exactly the same as the original. >> It WILL NOT look exactly the same as the original. >> It WILL cost the same as the original. $25 U.S. > >It WILL increase your sex drive. >It WILL NOT add highlights to your hair. >It WILL increase your falsetto range.

    I always look forward to a BafuPost because laughter is very healing. At this point I think we also need a term for the reaction you have after reading a BafuPost. I think it would have to be BafuBellyLaugh also said almost like a stutter. :^)

    Go Bafu. Later, Jim Colberg

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    Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 13:30:23 -0500 From: Greg Chew <grc8@columbia.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Derek is not gay Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960227183023.00709ff8@mailhub.cc.columbia.edu>

    >> Hehe. Is Derek gay? Does it matter? Thinking about it, he's the only one >> in the band without long hair...and you know what they say about men >> with long hair.. > >With the way Derek was all over one of my female friends at the >YtseCon and the Malibu aftershow 6/13/95, I wouldn't say that Derek is gay. > >Yours, >Jeff =)

    Actually, I heard that Derek has the underwear of every woman he's slept with, lined up on the walls of his room. ewwwwwwww....

    Greg :)

    @@@><><><>===<><><>===<><>===<>==<<@@@>>==<>===<><>===<><><>===<><><><@@@ Gregory Chew -- "In with the ashes, or up with the smoke from the fire?" grc8@Columbia.edu :):):):):):) -- Kevin Moore, Dream Theater @@@><><><>===<><><>===<><>===<>==<<@@@>>==<>===<><>===<><><>===<><><><@@@

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