YTSEJAM digest 1224

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Date: Thu Jan 11 1996 - 12:13:12 EST

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YTSEJAM Digest 1224

Today's Topics:

  1) John Petrucci's riffs & guitars
by MUchimoto@aol.com
  2) Once again (drums, Death, covers)
by sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
  3) RE: I can hear DT backwards/Death/ Metal Nation
by bflynn@sps.edu (Ben Flynn)
  4) Re: Reversing DT? OK, here's how
by bflynn@sps.edu (Ben Flynn)
  5) Re: Saw Savatage in Belgium
by bflynn@sps.edu (Ben Flynn)
  6) Squick and Torman Maxt (Re: YTSEJAM digest 1222)
by Scott Daugherty <SRDAUGZ2@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
  7) #Ytsejam IRC
by YtsejamDT@aol.com
  8) Re: Screw U Elliot
by Elliott Kim <ekim01@fiu.edu>
  9) mapex->tama
by kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
10) ACOS and some common questions (Re: YTSEJAM digest 1221)
by Bimmered@aol.com
11) Band comparisons (Re: YTSEJAM digest 1222)
by croth@oboe.aix.calpoly.edu (Christian Roth)
12) Skyway of Nightmares
by "Richard Karsmakers" <r.c.karsmakers@stud.let.ruu.nl>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1222
by Stefan Schweitzer <schwest@rzsco.fh-albsig.de>
14) Re: any UK Jammers out there
by "Andrew S. Moore" <amoore@riker.anglia.ac.uk>
15) Re: Dave M. likes DT!
by "Andrew S. Moore" <amoore@riker.anglia.ac.uk>
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1223
by part@dutccia.tudelft.nl (Gerralt Partiman)
17) Re:Any UK jammers out there
by gary@tequila.demon.co.uk (Gary Cleghorn)
18) Sympathies
by John Mastin <johnny@psa.pencom.com>
19) the "new and improved" jams!!!!!
by te95mne@student.hgs.se (MIKA NUMMINEN)
20) Re: Torman Maxt (not much DTC)
by "Daniel James Temmesfeld" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
21) Dave Mustaine and DT
by marcio.danucalov@dialdata.com.br (Marcio Danucalov)
22) Re: dt shows tape tree update
by An Angel's Kiss... <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
23) Dutch DT fans
by "H.B.HULSEGGE" <H.B.Hulsegge@rcondw.RUG.NL>
24) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1223
by James Peele <jpeele@osprey.unf.edu>
25) My condolances...
by CHORVAT@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU
26) ACOS project UPDATE!!
by v932407@si.hhs.nl

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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 20:23:08 -0500
From: MUchimoto@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: John Petrucci's riffs & guitars
Message-ID: <960110202306_112625259@emout04.mail.aol.com>

In Ytsejam 1222 someone said that JP's riffs are getting to be heavier
and also he said that he thinks that JP is tuning his guitars low.
Well on Awake, 3 songs are played with 7-string Ibanez guitars. The
songs are CIAW, Lie, and 6:00. He also uses his 7-stringed guitar on "A
Change of Seasons." It seems as though he has 2 7-stringed guitars.
One of them hasa Black & white finish that is similar to the picasso
design featured on his JP100. The other one is a guitar that is
multicolored in purple.

MUchimoto@aol.com

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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 02:25:15 +0100 (MEZ)
From: sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam - the Dream Theater mailing list)
Subject: Once again (drums, Death, covers)
Message-ID: <9601110125.AA38912@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de>

Happy new year!

No, I haven't posted anything to the 'jam for a while ;-)

MP's drums:

Back to Tama, back to Bear Track, back to Prater, back to IAW? Maybe Tama
should replace the snare with a drumpad, Prater would be happy. Choke...
I couldn't stand another Prater production with either triggered or rattling
drums and vocals processed and mixed down to death! Uh... BTW.

Death:

Best death metal band ever, and since "Human" even sort of "progressive
death". I'm not sure if Cynic have Death's ex-bassist. "Human" features
Cynic's drummer and guitarist, bassist on "Human" and the following album was
Steve DiGiorgio (Sadus). Maybe Cynic recruited the guy that did the "Human"
tour with Death. Drummer on "Individual..." and "Symbolic" was Gene Hoglan,
ex-Dark Angel, now ex-Death. He left the band, which was BTW dropped by
Roadrunner. Chuck Schuldiner thinks of waiting one or two years and restarting
with a new sound then. Ok, another one: Anyone heard of Atheist?

Yes and stuff:

Just wanted to listen to the original versions of the Yes songs DT played at
the Uncovered gig and within two weeks I heard all albums from '71 to '80 and
bought three of these till now. "Close to the Edge" and "Relayer" are
mandatory listening for all Progrock fans.

Then I tried Rush (once again). I listened to "2112" and "Moving Pictures" and
was bored. I just can't get into it. The original "Tears" is inferior to the
covers DT made and after hearing the InstruMENTAL "YYZ"-cover a lot I even
liked that version better than the Rush original. Well, since Rush made many
albums and I'm a collector, I think I saved a lot of money ;-)

Steffen

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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 22:01:08 -0500
From: bflynn@sps.edu (Ben Flynn)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: RE: I can hear DT backwards/Death/ Metal Nation
Message-ID: <v01530502ad1a2cd3edf6@[199.95.40.23]>

Someone wrote:

>Hw also said only about three people on the jam had probably heard of Death.
>So who are the other two?

Here's number two! I don't really like them that much however. The only
real death metal band that I can get into is Sepultura. By the way, are
there any people here from Connecticut/ Long Island area who used to listen
to Dee Snider's Metal Nation on WRCN (103.9/94.3)? Could youtell me what
happened to the show? Dee kicks ass, and yet it is no longer on the air.
Was he syndicated or cancelled?

Ben Flynn

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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 22:13:35 -0500
From: bflynn@sps.edu (Ben Flynn)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Reversing DT? OK, here's how
Message-ID: <v01530504ad1a2fdda4b8@[199.95.40.23]>

If you have the equipement there's an even easier way-
If you have a multitrack recorder (and a lot of you might since there are
many musicians on the 'Jam) just record the song onto tracks one and two in
stereo. Then flip the tape over and the song will play in reverse through
tracks three and four.
Actually, you should just hunt down some DT on vinyl- its the best
medium for sound reproduction anyway :) By the way, does anyone know if any
DT stuff is available on vinyl? If so, where can I get it?

later on,
Ben Flynn

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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 22:17:26 -0500
From: bflynn@sps.edu (Ben Flynn)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Saw Savatage in Belgium
Message-ID: <v01530506ad1a3151fc0f@[199.95.40.23]>

>Yesterday I saw a Savatage show. Great! Al Pitrelli is an amazing
>guitarplayer...

I agree that he's great, but is he still playing with Widowmaker? Have they
split up or has Al just left Widowmaker?

[sig trimmed]

-- Ben Flynn (bflynn@sps.edu)

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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 96 22:51:01 EST From: Scott Daugherty <SRDAUGZ2@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Squick and Torman Maxt (Re: YTSEJAM digest 1222) Message-ID: <960110.230608.EST.SRDAUGZ2@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>

To Walter (the guy who posted about prog bands in digest 1222),

I checked out Squick and Torman Maxt on the web and both have pages up and running (I used the InfoSeek search engine to look them up). Both pages have some bios and pics, as well as some down-loadable .wav files. The Squick tune was o.k. but I'd have to hear more, might be promising. The Torman Maxt tune was about 500k and it took about 15 minutes to download 250, so I gave up. Check them out using your search engine, or I can get their URL's if you need me to. See ya, Scott Daugherty srdaugz2@ulkyvm.louisville.edu

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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 23:32:23 -0500 From: YtsejamDT@aol.com To: Ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: #Ytsejam IRC Message-ID: <960110233220_87670515@emout04.mail.aol.com>

Hi everyone,

**************ESPECIALLY FOR ALL AOL USERS*********************** I've read the stuff some have said about the IRC #Ytsejam. Well the thing is AOL doesn't offer that now and quite honestly don't know if they plan to. All there is are the chat rooms which don't do much good for non AOL jam members, plus in my opinion kind of suck anyhow. What I was thinking is for all us AOL jam members to send a petition of some sort to the network asking for them to stop depriving us of the IRC. I've mentioned this to one other member and he seemed ok with it. I told him I'd post this.

So anyone interested, e-mail me personally and we'll try to figure out a plan to do this.

Thanks a lot!

Seize the day! Irene

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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 23:49:00 -0500 (EST) From: Elliott Kim <ekim01@fiu.edu> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: Screw U Elliot Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960110233235.27547B-100000@solix>

Looks like LadyIcefire is a little pissed.

[IceFire is an oxymoron. --bvai]

What I'm wondering is why she didn't mail me directly. I don't want all the subscribers to know that I'm a backstabbing loser! Oh my GOD!!! What am I going to do now?!?!?

However, I hope _this_ is the end of it here and I hope Miss Icefire will take it up with me privately.

Elliott Kim, ekim01@fiu.edu

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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 22:11:23 +0800 From: kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb) To: ytsejam Subject: mapex->tama Message-ID: <9601110611.AA00606@anthor.arastar.com>

I've also heard that Portnoy left Mapex on good terms. Mike decided to move on to Tama after Mapex failed to keep certain contractual promises. Tama had been after Mike for some time and have made him a very good offer. He's officially signed and will be doing drum clinics for them "in the distant future".

-- Ken Bibb "If the boundary breaks I'm no longer alone kbibb@arastar.com Don't discourage me jester@crash.cts.com Bring out the stars/On the first day" David Sylvian--"The First Day"

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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 01:14:37 -0500 From: Bimmered@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: ACOS and some common questions (Re: YTSEJAM digest 1221) Message-ID: <960111011436_87727583@mail04.mail.aol.com>

[Please don't post responses to the poll question to the 'jam! Send them to 940659@MERCURE.UMH.AC.BE Poll response has been forwarded and deleted--kbibb]

And [ACOS] was supposed to be on I's & W's. But it wouldn't fit. They recorded it last summer at Beartracks. I got the AWAke Live in Japan (BOOTLEG) and I think that Derek Shirinian is pretty damn good.

Quiz: Do you know where they got him from? and What Kev Moore is doing today? Reply..I know!!!! Later

[If you don't know the answers to the above, send:

get ytsejam dtfaq-4.0.txt

to ytsejam-request@arastar.com with a subject of "asdf". You'll receive a copy of Jason Skewes's FAQ which answers these (and many other) questions--kbibb]

-Raf-

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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 22:16:18 -0800 From: croth@oboe.aix.calpoly.edu (Christian Roth) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Band comparisons (Re: YTSEJAM digest 1222) Message-ID: <9601110616.AA05006@oboe.aix.calpoly.edu>

Joe and Walter, First off, I sent away for Torman Maxt, I was a bit dissapointed. It's pretty acoustic and a lot mellower than DT. Anyway, if you want it, let me know. You can have my copy. Anyway, I don't know about you all, but I prefer new Fate's over old Fate's, I love the new heaviness of DT, and I love listening to Death and Machine Head. Anyone like the Cocteau Twins? Anyway, I live in San Jose, but I go to school in San Luis Obispo at Cal Poly. I'll let you know if I find anything out about them coming thru here. Take it easy, Christian

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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 09:14:43 -0600 (CST) From: "Richard Karsmakers" <r.c.karsmakers@stud.let.ruu.nl> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Skyway of Nightmares Message-ID: <33286.r.c.karsmakers@stud.let.ruu.nl>

I have the Skyway of Nightmares bootleg. Because I've got all songs on it on other bootlegs already, I wouldn't mind parting with it to another 'Jammer who just "wants to have it all" as it were. If you're interested, send offers to me personally.

[sig trimmed] /=-ooo-=-=ooo=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=\ | Richard Karsmakers r.c.karsmakers@stud.let.ruu.nl | \=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=/ * If you want my PGP public key, mail and ask *

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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 09:33:21 +100 (MEZ) From: Stefan Schweitzer <schwest@rzsco.fh-albsig.de> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1222 Message-ID: <Pine.SCO.3.90.960111090411.8669C-100000@rzsco.fh-albsig.de>

> [deleted] I just can't see DT as a band which are down-tuning their > guitars! (and bass offcause).

Since I'm new to the list, I would first like to introduce myself... I'm a DT fan and Guitarist from Albstadt (Germany)... what else would you like to know?

Concerning JPs "pretty brutal riffs" - I just love them! The answer to your question is very easy: JP has never tuned his guitar too low (as far as I know...) - he simply uses a 7-String Guitar which allows him to play those extremely low-tone riffs! Imagine "The Mirror" with a normal 6-String, it wouldn't sound half as... "fat" (? How should I express that in English...?). Well, this is not nice for guitarists who want to play DT songs from "Awake" and "ACoS" - you will get that bombastic sound only with a 7-String!!! (I would actually also like to have one)

TO ALL YTSEJAMMERS FROM GERMANY: Is there anyone from Baden-Wuerttemberg in the list... especially musicians? KEYBOARDERS?? (I am actually looking for one for my band (FOUR against ONE)... if you like some Funk- and Grunge-Influenced progressive music, please let me know.

GREETINGS TO Ties - and to you all, of course...

STEFAN SCHWEITZER

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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 09:10:22 BST From: "Andrew S. Moore" <amoore@riker.anglia.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: any UK Jammers out there Message-ID: <5527355106@riker.anglia.ac.uk>

Patricia wrote:

> There's me- Patricia in Surrey, there's Graham in Glasgow, Chris > in Cambridge.

That should be ANDY in Cambridge! (I'll let you off this time Patricia!)

Andy (in Cambridge). :)

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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 09:27:59 BST From: "Andrew S. Moore" <amoore@riker.anglia.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Dave M. likes DT! Message-ID: <55727501B0@riker.anglia.ac.uk>

Ben wrote:

> Me: Hi Dave. Have you ever heard of a band called Dream Theater. > Dave: A little. > Me: Did you like what you heard? > Dave: Yes.

Ben, this is really wierd, cos I heard a radio show when Awake was released over here, and Dave Mustaine was special guest. They played 6:00 and Mustaine started making snoring noises when it was finished. The radio presenter asked him what he thought of Dream Theater and he slagged them off! Of course he could always change his opinion (it was over a year ago), or he could be just saying he likes them to keep you happy...

Andy (in Cambridge!)

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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 11:10:11 +0100 From: part@dutccia.tudelft.nl (Gerralt Partiman) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1223 Message-ID: <9601111010.AA16542@dutccia.tudelft.nl>

Hello Jammers,

It is incredible to see how people analyze even the smallest futilities of DT's music. I consider myself a heavy fan of this band, but there are more excellent musicians out there. Fortunately, Cairo and Shadow Gallery are fairly known to the progrock fans, but bands like White Heart, Oracle. Jackal and so on are not often spoken of simply because little people know about them. It's very frustrating to see (even for a non-musician like me) that many great bands like forementioned and others cease to exist because they are systematically ignored by the fans. My advice: read the magazines carefully, go out and listen to those bands adn most off all don't become a one-band-Prince-like-hysterical fan. If you don't have access to decent mags you can e-mail me (privately_on almost every sub genre of rock nusic, from melodic rock to death metal (the only subgenre I know virtually nothing about is hardcore, but those fellows complain so much). The world doesn't stop at Dream Theater.

C-Ya,

Gerralt Partiman.

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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 96 11:07:24 GMT From: gary@tequila.demon.co.uk (Gary Cleghorn) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re:Any UK jammers out there Message-ID: <24_OASIS_@tequila.demon.co.uk>

Ok guys and gals this is my first post to the jam since i joined way back in Oct 95 (the new style jams are much better now we've got rid or that religous junk and stuff).

Patricia can you add me to your list? Gary from Newcastle :-))

Been reading all the threads lately about the recent New York gigs and i can only sympathise with the jammers who were frozen,crushed,kicked,punched and thrown out ( it was worth it though wasn't it).

Long live the JAM.

-- ************************ gary@tequila.demon.co.uk ************************

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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 05:59:37 -0600 (CST) From: John Mastin <johnny@psa.pencom.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Sympathies Message-ID: <199601111159.FAA11017@psa.pencom.com>

A note to Mike Portnoy:

We are sorry to hear about the loss of your grandmother. May she bask well in the rewards of what we consider to be the afterlife.

Regards, (a list of jammers who came with me to the BH show.)

Johnny Motown Rich Brown Jeffery Mastin Joyce Brown Darren Brown Carolyn Ryan Brown Pat Joseph Dries

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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 12:58:36 +0100 From: te95mne@student.hgs.se (MIKA NUMMINEN) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: the "new and improved" jams!!!!! Message-ID: <199601111202.NAA06772@adeptus.student.hgs.se>

>Subject: Trey's #'d comments-back again... > >6) Ken your doing a killer job w/ the new jams!!! I love them now!!! I >actually look forwrd to reading them!!!! =20

Ok, I have been away for a while, but I think that the single factor that has raised the quality of the jams is that there's something to talk about now (ie: the shows), just wait a few weeks and someone is gonna start debating "the Star Trek influence on God, Bafu-Vai and on DTs music"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The great Swedish viking............

Mika

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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 09:04:00 -500 (EST) From: "Daniel James Temmesfeld" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Torman Maxt (not much DTC) Message-ID: <30F5199E.B99D.4308.000@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>

Someone asked about this xn prog band...Torman Maxt.

Well, I'd always seen there ads in HM magazine, and they were always comparing themselves to Dream Theater, Queensryche, and Saviour Machine (all of which I love). I found their web page on the internet and downloaded some sound bites and then ordered their disc via VISA through their web page.

It's a pretty good album. One thing that lacks in the xn side of the industry is good prog bands. Torman Maxt is a "good prog band." They are not, however, a Dream Theater, or a Queensryche of xn rock/metal. They are good, and I see some DT and QR influences, but they aren't *that* monumental. One downside is the vocalist...I don't like him, but oh well...

Most of the tracks are acoustically based as well...

Well, that's about all I know now...if you want their web page URL, try a Yahoo or Web Crawler search for "Torman Maxt" or email me and I can dig it up...

Dan Temmesfeld s1133627@cedarville.edu

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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 96 12:03:00 -0300 From: marcio.danucalov@dialdata.com.br (Marcio Danucalov) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Dave Mustaine and DT Message-ID: <1dd.198824.50.0CC9B89B@dialdata.com.br>

>Me: Hi Dave. Have you ever heard of a band called Dream Theater. >Dave: A little. >Me: Did you like what you heard? >Dave: Yes.

Hey Ktulu, I knew that in the brazilian "Monters Of Rock" concert. Dave was dressing a red, black sleeved sweat shirt, with something write in the front, but too small to be readed. Some days after, a brazilian TV shown all the concert. In a close of one of Dave's guitar solo, The little thing get (almost) clear. I gess it was "DREAM THEATER"...

Marcio Danucalov - Brazil

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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 09:51:17 -0500 (EST) From: An Angel's Kiss... <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: dt shows tape tree update Message-ID: <m0taOLb-00004zC@donews.cts.com>

I heard a copy of this show in the parking lot afterwards - and the quality seemed quite phenomenal on the DAT.

That, combined with the quality of the performance, which is one of the best of the 8 I have seen, makes it a must-have for any fan. LAter,

Al Balkiewicz vocals, Half Naked

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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 15:53:43 +0100 (MET) From: "H.B.HULSEGGE" <H.B.Hulsegge@rcondw.RUG.NL> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com, ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Dutch DT fans Message-ID: <48DCCD492E@clus6.rcondw.rug.nl>

Hi I'm looking for DT fans located in the Netherlands. Is ther anyone of you dutch guys who has the 'Acoustic Dreams' cd. If so, can dub that for me ?

Other rare cd's are welcome also. You can mail me at : H.B.Hulsegge@Rcondw.rug.nl

Greetings

Erik Hulsegge.

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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 10:23:41 -0500 (EST) From: James Peele <jpeele@osprey.unf.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1223 Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960111102024.20697D-100000@osprey.unf.edu>

Elliott, (hi there),

As far as judging the quality of boots... the transition between a pre-recorded intro and the live "kick-in" is not a good judge of quality for the entire boot... It is possible that a good sounding "board" boot of a show may have a bad transition into the kick-in... However, it is annoying if the soundman screws that up or the band comes in slightly out of time...

Later, Jay Peele INFERNO (E-mail: jpeele@unf.edu)

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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 10:49:30 -0500 (EST) From: CHORVAT@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU To: YTSEJAM@anthor.arastar.com Subject: My condolances... Message-ID: <01HZVQDG9CY6001BZA@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU>

I just read the post about mike's grandmother. Mike, if you happen to read this, I extend my deepest condolances. I do not know what the circumstances are surrounding her departure, but I do feel for you. My grandmother is starting to slip away from this world. She is 95 years old, and my family believes that she has earned her reward. This makes it much easier for us to accept. In any case, we feel for ya dude!!

( I do apologize, boys and girls, for being so sappy and stuff).

Keep jammin folks!!

Chris

p.s. If Mr. Anthony Kozar or Mr. Adam Marshal happen to read this, hi there! (Write me Adam!!) (Anthony, I'll see you sometime today, Im sure!)

Later all!

p.p.s. Another thing, I have to admit that I am impressed with the comeraderie (yes, I know my spellling blows goats...) on the Jam. This sucker rules!!!

p.p.p.s. Jason Giles, Thanks for the awesome Ytsejam Shirt. It ROCKS!!!!

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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 12:29:49 +0100 (MET) From: v932407@si.hhs.nl To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: ACOS project UPDATE!! Message-ID: <9601111129.AA14004@jonge.si.hhs.nl>

LIMITED EDITION COMPACT DISCS Information and Update, Current to 1/11/96

1. Introduction

Dear Ytsejammers, for those who don't know me (hmm... that's most of you), my name is Marcel Berkhout and I am the second guy (you all know the first one) on the Ytsejam list to make bootlegs. I'm from Holland, keep that in mind if you find any typos :)

Like Mike Bahr I'm not out to scam all of you and make huge amounts of money. I'm really into bootlegs and this is the perfect way for me to broaden (sp?) my horizons (wow!)

As you can see I took the liberty of copy-ing Mike Bahr's update-style. I think it's something you all are familiar with and is easy to read.

2. What is .................. (still looking for a good name, hint!, hint!)

This was my 4th Dream Theater concert of the year and probably one of the most memorable 'cause they played ACOS!!

It was recorded on the 8th of July this summer during an outdoors festival called 'Bospop' (Please don't ask me why it's called that way). Dream Theater didn't headline the festival, but judging from the amount of people wearing DT t-shirts most of them came to see DT :)

A friend of mine recorded the show with his portable DAT-recorder and some great mics, so the quality of the recording is great, especially for an outdoor show. Aahh hell.... might as well tell you all the truth.... the only negative thing I can think of is that there are some people (with no vocal ability whatsoever) can be heard from time to time during the 'easier' and 'slower' parts of some songs (LSOAD and Another Day). I hope this doesn't bother to many people.

Because DT didn't headline the festival they only played for 70 minutes.

The setlist was :

Intro Under a Glass Moon Voices A Change of Seasons Another Day Pull me Under [encore] 6:00

The booklet will contain actual pictures from the festival, all FULL color of course! I have some cool ideas for this :)

3. What is the release schedule?

Like I said in my original posting, I need at least 100 reservations to get this project going, therefore I can't give any information (yet) about the release date. Currently there are 59 reservations and I hope that I will have 100 (or more of course!) within a week or two.

4. How much will .......... (fill in name here) cost?

I'm not out to compete with Mike Bahr, so my prices will be exactly the same as his. ($25 base cost) I'm not sure about the postage yet, but I think that it won't differ much from Mike's prices.

5. The reservations

Note that the numbers are not CD numbers. Please e-mail me if you see any mistakes/typos.

Nr. Name e-mail address:

Information: Stephane's huge order is being bought as a group order for others in his home country, not an order to keep for later.

6. Famous Last Words

To conclude my update I would like to thank everyone who reserved a copy AND I would like to ask all the others to PLEASE make a reservation, so I can get started with the project.

If you have any questions about the project, feel free to e-mail me any time.

Thanks,

Marcel Berkhout v932407@si.hhs.nl

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