YTSEJAM Digest 1242
Today's Topics:
1) If you mailed me between 1/27-1/29
by "Trey (T-Stretch) Allen" <tallen@junix.ju.edu>
2) A review of ACOS you should see...
by Glenn Waterfield <lwaterfi@eecs.uic.edu>
3) tree update (it's closed now!!!)
by Brian Cox <lerxst@metronet.com>
4) UK CDrom un-releases
by fitipmol@ibmmail.com
5) John Petrucci Video From NAMM Show
by DAVID E WRUCK <dewruck@ouray.cudenver.edu>
6) Ben and Lie (Re: YTSEJAM digest 1236)
by te95mne@student.hgs.se (MIKA NUMMINEN)
7) For those in Madison, WI.
by rtgood@students.wisc.edu (Ryan "Hercules" Good)
8) Prog bands in Eastern Europe
by Kozari Frida <dandelion@augusta.elte.hu>
9) cds for sale
by WildKoba@aol.com
10) Jason Becker
by "Richard Karsmakers" <r.c.karsmakers@stud.let.ruu.nl>
11) Headbangers Ball
by P.McLoughlin@bra0108.wins.icl.co.uk
12) Letterman
by DreamNDay@aol.com
13) Re: The Mirror
by mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
14) Shadow Gallery tapping
by thekid@txdirect.net (Jose Vaquera)
15) Eve!@
by Syrinx <syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 96 17:41:10 -0500
From: "Trey (T-Stretch) Allen" <tallen@junix.ju.edu>
To: ytsejam@arastar.com
Subject: If you mailed me between 1/27-1/29
Message-ID: <9601302241.AA14798@junix.ju.edu>
EVERYONE WHO MAILED ME BETWEEN 1/27-1/29 AND DIDN'T GET A RESPONSE, PLEASE
MAIL ME AGAIN!!!!! I LOST A TON OF MESSAGES!!!!
Somehow, my server deleted them or something and I had at least like 60 so
if I didn't reply to your message I didn't read it. Please send it again!!!!
========"If I started at the top and worked my way down, then there ========
would be no reason to live forever..." -Dream Theater-
Trey Allen (T-Stretch) 904-721-1362 Jacksonvile Fl.
tallen@junix.ju.edu
=========== http://www.ju.edu/UsrWebPages/tallen/home.html ============
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 22:56:08 -0600 (CST)
From: Glenn Waterfield <lwaterfi@eecs.uic.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: A review of ACOS you should see...
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960124223856.10097A-100000@bert.eecs.uic.edu>
Hey all!
Even though I'm not on the list (for now) anymore, I thought you should
see this.
This appeared in yeterday's University of Illinois at Chicago's student
newspaper. Timely, eh?
"A Change of Seasons"
Dream Theatre <---- (!!!)
Dream Theatre is a five-piece band with a definite penchant for intricately
played, complexly-arranged heavy metal. "A Change of Seasons" compiles the
twenty-three minute long title track (a long-time Dream Theatre concert
staple) and a number of carefully chosen covers of the band's favorite
classic rock songs.
Throughout the album, Dream Theatre performs with the precision of skilled
surgeons. Each of the title tracks's seven different parts are played with
impeccable technique and the band does a nearly flawless recreation of Elton
John's "Funeral for a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding." Ultimately, however, this
precision leaves little room for any real excitement or spontaneity to shine
through. The band compromises emotion for musicianship and consequently robs
its songs of their ability to move the listener on a personal level.
Listening to "A Change of Seasons" is the musical equivalent of eating a rice
cake -- it leaves you with nothing but a bland aftertaste when it's over.
Two Stars --Phil Mole
This from the man that gave "Hempilation" (the reefer benefit album)
three stars on the very same page.
I agree with him partially about the covers. I love them, but they are
rather straighforward (esp. James). But a ricecake? I don't think so.
By the way, there is a listing of a Phillip Mole at UIC under:
pmole1@uic.edu How about that? :)
Toodles!
Glenn
P.S. I just decided to resubscribe!! (I had to change accounts recently)
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L. Glenn Waterfield "Listen brain; I don't like you and you don't
Argonne National Labs -- Homer J. Simpson
LWaterfi@Bert.eecs.uic.edu Waterfld@Desire.et.anl.gov
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 00:19:08 -0600 (CST)
From: Brian Cox <lerxst@metronet.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: lerxst@metronet.com
Subject: tree update (it's closed now!!!)
Message-ID: <199601250619.AA10705@metronet.com>
hi everyone...
i will be sending out the tree strcture probably tomorrow. i have contacted
the DAT branches, and will be sending them the DAT tapes soon. after that
the taping from DAT>Analog and Analog>analog will start.
I have decided to provide DATs that already have fadeins and fadeouts at the
appropriate points to make it easier on the DAT>analog tapers and also so
everyone will have a consisent tape. i will also be sending both DAT and
analog printed j-cards that the branches can copy and send along if they
want. please use the ones i send out instead of a custom one so everyone
gets the same thing.
i will also put a postcript file of the j-cards on my web page in the next
couple of days.
i plan a major overhaul of the web page this weekend, so all of you that have
been looking there for the tree, sorry it is so lame right now :)
the correct url is this: http://www.metronet.com/~lerxst/
i will probably put the tree structure at this:
http://www.metronet.com/~lerxst/music/tapes/tree.html
if it isnt at that direct path, it will be somewhere under the tape page.
anyway, if you need to give me a different email address for you or anything,
email me. if not, dont bother me until after i post the tree structure. :)
this has been alot more work that i thought it would be. :)
later...
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<>Rush|Dream Theater|Queensryche|King's X|Echolyn|King Crimson|Voivod><>
<><><><><><><><><>DAT Taper/Trader - Email me for list<><><><><><><><><>
<><><><><><><><><>< http://www.metronet.com/~lerxst/ ><><><><><><><><><>
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 05:32:13 EST
From: fitipmol@ibmmail.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: UK CDrom un-releases
Message-ID: <m0tfP0T-0000aSC@crash.cts.com>
--- Saapunut 03.MAPE 90-4694432 25-01-96 12.30
-> IBMMAIL.INTERNET IBM IMX
Hi all!
This posting concerns the UK jammers, If you're not one, you can skip this.
I read from the Metal Hammer (Jan.1996) that Queensryche's CD-ROM will not be
released in the UK. The same goes for three other similar products, one being
Pearl Jam and the other two I cant remember at the moment. Now ain't that a
drag....
t: Mape
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* I am the way, I am the light, I am the dark inside the night. *
* - Savatage: Believe- *
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 04:42:06 -0700 (MST)
From: DAVID E WRUCK <dewruck@ouray.cudenver.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: John Petrucci Video From NAMM Show
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960125042451.31131A-100000@ouray.cudenver.edu>
Okay, my turn to offer a new goodie to the Jammers. As some of you know
the Namm show was held this weekend in LA. John was there at the Lexicon
setup promoting their gear (mainly the PCM-80) and did a mini-clinic
kinda thing to show how stuff works and the bass player in my band got it
all on video - front row. We're willing to make copies for people for a
small price, somewhere between $5 and $10 to cover cost of tape, S/H, and
a little to help cover the costs of the plane ticket and event ticket.
I'll get an exact price when I find out how much S/H is and which VHS
tape is prefered ( I like TDK HiFi). This is not in stereo since it was
shot with a portable camera but is pretty damn good quality - so good you
can see almost every movement of his fingers and the time on his watch.
He does a couple mini jams to show the capabilities of the Lexicon EFX
processor and plays to a tape of some stuff he recorded as well as a tape
of Erotomania. The way the camera was directed and the proximity to John
pretty much cut out the background tapes but every note he plays is
crystal clear - especially during the maniacal runs at the end of
Erotomania - good for guitarists trying to figure it out. As an added
bonus he's wearing our (or should I say Jason/Trey/shirtmaker/whoever)
*YTSE JAM* shirt!!!!!!!!
The cameraman (my bass player Rich) also got in one comment about Wanted:D or
A in to which John responded "that's not me!!!"
If no ones interested, it won't hurt my feelings but it's kinda neat to have
around (especially for trades:)). Like I said, the quality is real good -
only one bad thing: when his dynamics crescendoed or heavy distortion kicked
in, a little bit of distortion in the mic/TV speakers is noticeable but
doesn't cover anything up.
It's 4:30 in the morning so excuse any of my typos and please e-mail me with
any questions or if you'd like to get a copy.
Dave
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 13:45:02 +0100
From: te95mne@student.hgs.se (MIKA NUMMINEN)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Ben and Lie (Re: YTSEJAM digest 1236)
Message-ID: <199601251338.OAA27014@adeptus.student.hgs.se>
Ben Laussade said (about Lie):
> I don't mean to brag, but that didn't really phase me. I figured
>[deleted--kbibb] That always messes 'em up. I made a point to tell
>them not to change at all...but
I think that is the way a lot of us hears DTs music (Bens way of hearing
it...), ie: the polyrythms, I think that if you took all that polyrythmical
stuff out of there they would sound like the "normal" progressive rock group
(okay, they have the melodies, but,...). Imagine The Mirror or Ltl without
the polyrythmic stuff, they would really loose the feel (the songs), and the
mood would be quite different, imagine MP playing along with the guitar
straight 4/4 instead of changing the drumpattern...
This does not limit itself to MPs playing, obviously there are parts played
by the other guys as well, for an example in Ltl (actually all over I&W)
that impose a different time signature.... (okay correct my english musical
terms if they aren't correct, I know my music in swedish terms....:-))
Okay, don't take this the wrong way, you guys who don't consider yourselves
as musicians, this is NOT a way of showing off. 8-0 (WOW!)
Mika
The swedish viking (Yes, all vikings weren't norwegians...)
PS. Northern european jammers, I will be receiving a copy of the
12/29/95 show, just in case you wanted a copy, mail me.....
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 08:36:40 -0600
From: rtgood@students.wisc.edu (Ryan "Hercules" Good)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: For those in Madison, WI.
Message-ID: <199601251436.IAA123336@audumla.students.wisc.edu>
Greetings and new books to all in Madison, or Wisconsin in general. I'm
here at UW-Madison, and am probably the only Dream Theater fan on campus.
I'm writing this so other DT fans will post or privately-e-mail me to prove
me wrong. Prog Rock is not very popular up here, and I want to find a few
other people to chat with....or, so I know that there are a few fans of
great music in the upper-mid west.
L.P.: David Bowie "Buddah of Suburbia"
N.P.: Dream Theater "Metropolis"
___________
Ryan T. Good
rtgood@students.wisc.edu
1-608-264-2268
Madison Student Radio - Music Stapher
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 15:39:31 +0100 (MET)
From: Kozari Frida <dandelion@augusta.elte.hu>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Prog bands in Eastern Europe
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960125153403.18199B-100000@augusta>
Hello!
First of all I'd like to tell you that I'm new on this list, so I
may ask silly questions. Excuse me. If the questions I ask have already been
discussed on the list, just guide me to a FAQ or a previous digest, as I
didn't have time yet to read them all.
So, does anyone know whether DT or any of the progressive bands are
going to play in Eastern Europe, especially in Hungary in the near (or far)
future? Of course I'm checking the local media regularly, but I could start
gathering some money for the tickets, if I knew it earlier. I'm interested
in all types of progressive bands, not only the big and famous ones.
Anyway these bands seem to be neglecting our area though there are
quite a few fans out here. I can hardly remember any of them playing in our
country.
Queensryche played here in 1991 as the opening band of the Monsters
Of Rock festival (before Motley Crue, Metallica and AC/DC). But they hardly
played 45 minutes, the sound was far from perfect and I couldn't arrive in
time, so I only heard two or three song. Shortly, it was a disappointing
experience.
The nearest location DT played live was in Vienna, but I couldn't go
and see them because I don't have much opportunity to travel abroad.
I know this is a small country, so we might not fill a huge stadium,
but certainly work it out with a smaller one. I'm looking forward to seeing
them here. But until they realize we're also the part of the civilized world
I must be satisfied with the Hungarian progressive bands. There are quite a
few of them and they're not bad at all.
Here's another essay about what aspects of DT's music I like. Well, I
read about DT in the Hungarian edition of the Metal Hammer Magazine around
the time their first album "When Dream And Day Unite" came out. (WDADU was
the album of the month in the August 1989 edition of Metal Hammer beating
Black Sabbath, Blue Murder and Annihilator.) But I wasn't interested in them
as I was into other kinds of music at that time. I didn't even hear the
album or any of the songs.
The first DT song I've heard was "Take The Time" from the "Images And
Words" album. I've seen the video in Headbanger's Ball and it just caught my
attention. Then they reached the keyboard solo (-- Kevin Moore rules), and I
was simply washed away. It's still my favourite DT song and best keyboard
solo I've ever heard. I think somebody else also mentioned the keyboard work.
That's my favourite too. It cooperates perfectly with the heavier aspects of
their music brought in by the other instruments. And the other thing is that
I listen to a wide range of music, not only progressive, and I like the
pieces from different styles and trends mixed in their eclectic songs.
Since then I keep gathering DT material and I'd like to see them live,
I hope I will soon be able to.
Any Jammers from Hungary or the Eastern European area? Or anyone around
the world who feels him/herself to be in connection with Hungary or
Hungarians? Pleez, mail me. Also in Hungarian if you speak. I've just seen
Jeremy Lakatos' name in digest 1232. Hello! You must or your ancestors must
have been Hungarians. I've found another one named Mantia Andras from Romania.
Hello to you too!
Another question: I've read on the Jam about the new Ytsejam T-shirt
release. I'd like to have one, but it seems I've run out of time to order
it. I'd like to ask how often it is available. I could start gathering the
money in time, if I knew.
Greetings
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Kozari Frida Student of Computer Programming and Mathematics
Eotvos Lorand University, Faculty Of Science, Budapest
My surname is Kozari, my "first" name is Frida.
PGP public key available by personal e-mail.
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 03:39:56 -0500
From: WildKoba@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: cds for sale
Message-ID: <960125012404_405848657@emout04.mail.aol.com>
in the desire to get rid of a lot of cd's i don't even listen to anymore (or
have extras of), i have a bunch of cd's for sale. nothing special, really.
some yes, a fw cd, this is for the cd junkies or anyone else who might like
what's in store. i am not looking at making much $$; hell, i might even be
happy with something in the area of 5 or 6 bucks. any interest souls email
me, and we talk. thank you.
david kobayashi
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 17:12:54 -0600 (CST)
From: "Richard Karsmakers" <r.c.karsmakers@stud.let.ruu.nl>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Jason Becker
Message-ID: <61976.r.c.karsmakers@stud.let.ruu.nl>
This is the best news I've heard in years. Jason Becker still lives, and
with that my hopes for his getting better live, too. It might be naive, but
it's all I got. I'm going to order the "Perspective" CD right away (well, as
soon as I have some dollars, which I have coming to me soon!).
Cheers!
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 18:30:31 +0000
From: P.McLoughlin@bra0108.wins.icl.co.uk
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Headbangers Ball
Message-ID: <"4617*/I=P/S=McLoughlin/OU=bra0108/O=icl/PRMD=icl/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/"@MHS>
>Ronnie Scotts (via MTV). Patricia?? One would think that
>someone would have recorded Headbangers Ball that night.
Yes I did. I have an edited version of the show. There was very
little live DT (Munich), with very little Ronnie Scotts, about 5
minutes of each. There WAS about a half hour of band interviews.
I have sent audios of this to US jammers P
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 15:03:49 -0500
From: DreamNDay@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Letterman
Message-ID: <960125150347_406279163@mail02.mail.aol.com>
OK-I know this is Ben's operation, but please send snail mail if you can. Its
far more effective than e-mail. For example, if they see DT as a subjrct,
they can just skip past it. Yopu never know whats in an envelope. I'm sending
smail, and I hope you will too.\
later--------------Brian
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 15:13:31 -0500
From: mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: The Mirror
Message-ID: <v01530503ad2d403118e6@[199.232.46.229]>
>> Marc Respass said:
>> I think The Mirror has the most obviously "wierd" thing
>> happening but it doesn't bother you unless you decide to
>> pay attention to it.
Then BenJammin "Just got the TSM single" Laussade said:
> I don't mean to brag, but that didn't really phase
> me. I figured out what was going on right after it
> happened. I guess I was kind of ready for it. [ snip ]
Well, Ben. You rule. I remember finally figuring out what was going on and
it was a great day for me :). That part is just an excellent example of
Dream Theater's writing ability. It just sounds so great and grooves but it
really messes with a lot of people.
--Marc R
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 14:14:08 -0600 (CST)
From: thekid@txdirect.net (Jose Vaquera)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Shadow Gallery tapping
Message-ID: <199601252014.OAA19217@legend.txdirect.net>
In 'jam 1233, <koggie@> wrote about tapping in a Shadow Gallery song being
some kind of code. I thought the same about the 1st verse music on UAGM. I
thought since Rush was an influence it might be a YYZ morse code type of
riff. So I pulled out a Morse Code chart and sure enough I got an M and an
A right off the bat. I started to think I was going to decode it as
MAJESTY. That would have been cool, but alas, after the MA it totally
disentigrated into gibberish. Oh well, it was exciting at the start.
Someone get an address for the Conan O'Brien show, and we'll hit them both
about booking DT.
==================================================================
"Frankly, I don't want to be a part of a progressive rock scene-
I want to be part of a Dream Theater scene." - John Petrucci
thekid@txdirect.net "don't ask me, I just work here."
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 18:11:20 -0500 (EST)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Eve!@
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.960125180713.16102A-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
Wow. I thought i had to post this.
I just got a copy of "Milan 1993" (recorded 11/15/93), and it's
awsome. Anyway, I know supposidly there's only been one "recorded"
version of _EVE_ (and it's on Subsconscious (sp)), but i've found another
one. It's just labeled on the disc as "Instrumental", but it's Eve, in
full form. It's a great disc. They also do...
Disc One:
Metropolis / Mission: Impossible - Afterlife / Under A Glass Moon / Wait
For Sleep - Surrounded / Ytse Jam/Drum Solo / Take The Time
Disc Two:
To Live Forever / Another Day / Only A Matter Of Time / Pull Me Under /
Eve / Learing To Live
if you can pick this up, it's great, and worth whatever you pay for it.
Trust me on this.
Syrinx
p.s. I've spoken to Hairball this week, and he gives his regards to all
of you. If you want me to relay any messages to him, just E-mail me, and
i'll do what i can.
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