YTSEJAM Digest 1696
Today's Topics:
1) RE: YTSEJAM digest 1654
by "Jeff Bourdier" <Jeff@pernet.net>
2) cd storage
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
3) WINTER ROSE & LABRIE
by Davide <dada.mi@iol.it>
4) zombies....
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
5) OK, Jack Blades was wrong.
by skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook)
6) Re: DT on the radio, AC in the Bronco
by Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
7) Punkins and Anthrax
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
8) FAITH NO MORE could be NO MORE (Ytsejam Post) (fwd)
by NUPRIN <nuprin@wichita.fn.net>
9) ****YOU CAN WIN A (boot) CD by Dream Theater****
by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
10) Trading/Brian Cox-Tape Tree
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
11) The Meaning of Liff
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
12) Adam Finally Getting To His Mail....
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
13) I'm such a smartass
by hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com (Larry Odneal)
14) Re: JAM #1694
by "Matthew A. Schnoor" <schnoor@cs.pdx.edu>
15) Kick Out The Jams
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:05:01 -0500
From: "Jeff Bourdier" <Jeff@pernet.net>
To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 1654
Message-ID: <199607161804.NAA21256@jennifer.pernet.net>
On Sat, 29 Jun 1996 Michael Van Opstall wrote:
> However, it has been said on the jam before, that it's nice to like a
> band like DT that isn't so popular, to kind of "posess" a band. Many
> jammers are the only DT fans in their neighborhoods (or states (or
> nations...)) and would love to hear DT on the radio or see them on MTV.
I
> personally have never heard DT on the radio. But every so often I feel
> that if DT got popular, maybe I wouldn't be such a fan.
I feel the very same way, and I'm sure many other fans do, and I will
attempt to explain why I think it's that way. I attribute it to the
typical type of listeners music like DT's attracts: usually they're more
intelligent, a lot of them musicians (more often than not *good* ones)
themselves, and can appreciate what most of us would agree is just
*better* music. Generally this type of fan appreciates that "underground"
quality in a band, because if few other people have heard of this band and
they're not real popular, the listener will feel "set apart," if you will,
from the crowd. I say this because the listener I describe above usually
doesn't like being just "part of the crowd," but wants an identity for
himself, and listening to an underground band like DT gives him that
identity.
-- -Jeff** Visit my web site! ** http://www.pernet.net/~jeff
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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 14:25:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: cd storage Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960716142311.22571F-100000@bdmserver>
I found a rotating cd storage container that hold 400 cds that I think is pretty good. It doesn't have indivdual slots so it makes it easier to move cds when you get a new one. Still a kinda pain if you have more than 400 cds. I need another one since I have well over 500 cds. I bought it at best buy.
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com | |=======================================================================| | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| |The Baltimore Orioles-The team to beat in 1996!!!!!!! | Go DC United! | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 20:23:22 +0200 From: Davide <dada.mi@iol.it> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: WINTER ROSE & LABRIE Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19960716182322.0066d8e8@popmail.iol.it>
Does anybody knows if any release by Winter Rose was published?? I read it was the previous band of Labrie.......I'd like to listen something of them.....
THANKS!
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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 13:32:04 -0500 From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: zombies.... Message-ID: <31EBE022.1E58@dreamt.org>
>I heard a review about the Dallas show on a Dallas sports radio show. >The two guys who do the show are friends of Pantera and were backstage >at the show. They claim that they saw something back stage which >indicates that the White Zombie set was pre-recorded.
after the mtv movie awards rob claimed something about the click in his headset being off so the band played horrible and out-of-time. first off any band who needs a tempo click on their headsets to stay in time shouldnt be up on stage playin in the first place! also, rob always seems to run out of breath on stage and just gasp the vocals out... i've never really had much respect for WZ after astro-creep came out, rob just seems to love all this mtv bs attention he's getting and just diggin the band deeper in shit. ` ~Rip not ~Ro[ :)
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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 12:16:55 -0700 From: skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: OK, Jack Blades was wrong. Message-ID: <199607161916.MAA03386@dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com>
Someone posted a reply that the Edge show wasn't the first gig. Well, Jack stands corrected since I was only repeating what he said. whoever said that they played an AC/DC tune at soundcheck; did you see the show? Because at our show the only did ONE Damn Yankees song in the acoustic set. And just because they play a song at sound check doesn't mean they play it live. I went to BOTH Metallica show at slims last month and at soundcheck they played Wasting My Hate both days, but it wasn't played at either show.
If I didn't know better, I would think you didn't actually go to the Night Ranger show, you just heard a soundcheck and figured that was the set.
Grinder
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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:05:46 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: DT on the radio, AC in the Bronco Message-ID: <31EBE80A.41C6@mailstorm.dot.gov>
Adam Cook wrote:
> Hah, WBCN? Good luck!
Boy were you right, Adam! Since the clock radio at work doesn't pick up AAF, I decided to give BCN another shot. I was reminded why it's no longer a preset on the car radio. The next time I'm on Boylston, I'll be rippin' DT as I go by the studio. They must learn to comply :)
> The only luck we'll probably ever have in the boston area is WAAF, > that's where I first heard PMU and TTT. However, by the time Awake > came out they had already switched to an alternative format so I > didn't hear Lie on the radio.
When Awake came out, I heard CIAW on 'Smash It or Trash It' (or whatever it was called). It was about a 50/50 split.
Regards,
Jon --- *------------*------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*------------------------*--------------*
"The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it."
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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:54:35 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu> To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Punkins and Anthrax Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9607161552.A22401-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
All of a sudden I'm in an Anthrax mood. Anyone have any John Bush-era boots? I'm willing to trade Rush, DT, or what little else I have.
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> From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> > Subject: Pumpkins > > From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu> > > > > Ugh, it's way too fucking late to be up, so here's my random thoughts: > > > > Actually, this one's inspired by a recent post from our esteemed > > colleague Mr. Daugherty, who saw the last Pumpkins show with that > > keysman. You ever secretly wish that a band - mind you, not a great > > band, but a I-won't-change-the-station-if-they-come-on band - would die > > or something after you see them in concert, just so you could say that > > you saw their last show? > > I wouldn't wish anyone dead even to say I saw the last show. I dont know > about you but I dont wish anyone dead. If you do that is pretty sad.
Yeah, I guess that's what happens after too much caffeine and not enough sleep. Oh, wait, there's no such thing as too much caffeine :)
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart
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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:44:47 -0500 (CDT) From: NUPRIN <nuprin@wichita.fn.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: FAITH NO MORE could be NO MORE (Ytsejam Post) (fwd) Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.960716154433.19203A-100000@wichita.fn.net>
---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 11:07:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Andy <ytsejam@UDel.Edu> To: "John T. Nguyen" <nuprin@fn.net> Subject: FAITH NO MORE could be NO MORE (Ytsejam Post)
There is a very good chance Faith no More broke up. And I am surprised no one new about this. Founding member of Faith no More, and keyboardist/vocalist/gutairist, Roddy Bottum HAS LEFT THE BAND. He has formed a new band call Imperial Teen, who in my opinion are pretty damn good. If you like pop alternitive type music check 'em out. I saw there first video of 120 mintues on Sunday, Roddy is the lead singer and plays gutair, plus there drummer is a major babe.
So with all that I wonder where that leaves, Mike Patton, Dean Menta, Billy Gould, and Mike "Puffy" Bordin --> who has been spoted playing drums with Ozzy on the Dave Letterman show most recently.
BTW, KFADFFAL is my favorite FNM album.
later...andy
Andrew Miller "Where do I take this pain of mine, ytsejam@Udel.Edu I run but it stays right by my side." --or-- -James Hetfield andym@dreamt.org
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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:56:22 -0500 From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ****YOU CAN WIN A (boot) CD by Dream Theater**** Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.7.16.15.56.22.14016.16333@clubmet.metrobbs.com>
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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 17:05:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Trading/Brian Cox-Tape Tree Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960716165656.22571I-100000@bdmserver>
I know that there are sometimes reasons why someone can't finish up a trade immediately. For instance Brian's Father in the hospital. But the question is how long is too long? If you really think about it, to make a copy of tapes is not difficult. It takes only a couple of minutes of your time. I mean you put both tapes in. Push play on one, push record on the other, then come back an hour later... Brian doesn't owe me tapes but I think now he will have more time to get his trades done. Brian has been mentioned in trades before many times and is a GOOD TRADER.
In my opinon when a trade is agreed upon, the trade should be completed within about 2 weeks.
Brian, about the tape tree. There are a lot of jammers (like myself) who really appreciated you doing the tree. We did not complain about the quality. I mean we were getting a boot of DT at a very minimal cost. Thanks for doing the tree. The tape was great.
Please consider doing another tree...
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com | |=======================================================================| | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| |The Baltimore Orioles-The team to beat in 1996!!!!!!! | Go DC United! | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 14:17:49 -0700 From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: The Meaning of Liff Message-ID: <199607162117.OAA17649@main.cfmc.com>
He's at it again.....
>From: btomko@main.glasscity.net > >I haven't seen A Clockwork Orange. Yet. I have read the book, though, by >Anthony Burgess. From what I've heard, the old adage holds true and the >book is better than the movie. I loved the book. On that topic, I think "A >Mind Beside Itself" would be a good place to start for a soundtrack if the >movie were ever redone.
Agreed. Burgess was quite an author, and I'd probably rate the movie a cut below the book, but it doesn't suffer like some of the other movies translated onto the big screen -- "The Fountainhead," "Dune," "Last of the Mohicans" -- though the last of the three is a great sounding movie.
>As far as drugs, 8 of the top 10 in my brother's graduating class were >druggies. This isn't a good thing. But seriously, there are very few >great people who had no personality quirks. A friend told me that Ben >Franklin had (that they know of) some 72 illegitimate children. (Check >those numbers, someone) Jack Kennedy and Martin Luther King, Jr. were >womanizers. (These next two aren't necessarily wrong or right, I'm just >pointing them out. No offense intended) Much to the dismay of >conservatives, the Founding Fathers were not at all religious and rarely if >ever attended church. Most of the great Greek philosophers and scientists >were homosexual. Sigmund Freud was a coke addict, and prescribed it to >patients. Isaac Newton was a conceited asshole. That's all I can think of >now. Remember: what you think about this doesn't change their places in >history, so show some tolerance. >Mark Tomko
Sure....history is filled with genius that's not fitted in well with the world. I don't know that I'd say that drugs are necessarily strongly correlated with genius, but it's certainly prevalent in the musical world. But eccentricity, man, you can draw up a list of any ten great individuals, and you'll find that nine of them were patently eccentric: Einstein, Pythagoras, Sanger, Leibniz, Lavoisier, Washington, Alexander the Great, Truth, Mohammad, Gotama (Buddha). I just picked ten at random....and my pattern holds. Sojourner Truth is the only one that I'm not aware of historical documentation for some real eccentricity. I'd say genius is ALWAYS tinged with eccentricity, and that we all have our failings....including those people we think of as "great" or "revolutionary."
>From: rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry) > > I also find that there are a number of Stan's films that might >be better. The boot camp scenes in Full Metal Jacket still give me the >creeps. > I have yet to experience ACO in print. I hope to pick it up >later today. > Your point about the soundtrack is well taken, but don't >forget that this movie hit theaters in 1971. I actually think that the >sterility of that synth score makes the society seem even more generic >and disconnected. Actually, I used to have the soundtrack on vinyl in >quad format. I can't remember what it sounded like though since it was >18 years ago. Yeah, I know, I'm an old fart. Cut me some slack! :)
I don't think the soundtrack is bad or anything. It's a little 70's, surely, but it's a point of reference for a lot of folks doing PoMo sounding soundtracks. Well, that's partly true -- either they're indebted to that ACO-type sound or the Tarantino melange....
> The songs just didn't rock enough for my taste. I found that >there were some real throwaway songs on AD. One of those which I liked >least was Be Aggressive. That cheerleader part, while making an >excellent mockery of sports like football that capitalize on >aggression, was VERY annoying. If I wanted to hear that, I'd go to a >high school football game. > I found that TRT had much more bite and I was more partial to >its production. I may buy the "red" one just to see if it is any >better, but I know they changed guitarists and that worries me a >little. I think I'll try to find it used or audition it before buying.
Your description is surely accurate. "Angel Dust" is a keyboard-driven album in a lot of ways -- it's very atmospheric, punctuated by musical events. It's (an this surely sounds a little strange) more symphonic than their other work, I'd say. Though I'd say "Introduce Yourself" is more of a "rocking" album than "The Real Thing."
And as an aside to the world: I've seen the Melvins four times and they've never failed to bore me.....
Adam D. Barnhart adamb@cfmc.com ydnt85a@prodigy.com
Five Gratuitous CD's: ===================== 1. Kind of Blue: Miles Davis 2. The Noise of Art: Jan Akkerman 3. Balance: Van Halen 4. Rose Colored Glasses: Animal Logic 5. Closer To Our Heart: Rush
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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 14:24:51 -0700 From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Adam Finally Getting To His Mail.... Message-ID: <199607162124.OAA09979@main.cfmc.com>
>From: raika@megatoon.com (Simon Asselin) > >Drummer Gene Hoglan >(who is excellent, btw) left him despite having "endured" two albums with >Chuck. Without his contribution, Death crumbled apart, having no other >"regulars" on which to start over (the guitarist who played on Symbolic did >not tour with Death). IMHO, I would not think that Death could have >survived Hoglan's departure.
Gene Hoglan! Shit! I remember that guy.....the ringleader of Dark Angel for quite a while. He's a hell of a drummer -- I'm remembering fondly my youth in sunny Long Beach, California, riding my bike (ugh....it's been a while) by Gene's place en route to Junior High School. Ah, the good ol' days....I wondered what happened to him....
Adam D. Barnhart adamb@cfmc.com ydnt85a@prodigy.com
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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:10:58 -0700 From: hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com (Larry Odneal) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: I'm such a smartass Message-ID: <199607162310.QAA24357@dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com>
Matt Rosin wrote:
>chuck *is* DEATH.
Chuck is Death Death is Chuck Says it right here on my Ytsejam!
S Hacker (Phil) wrote:
>Hello, i am a new subscriber, {snipped}. . . what does IMO mean?????
Welcome, S, and I'm pleased to inform you that every time you see IMO in a message it means "In my orifice". And IMHO means "In my humungous orifice." You're welcome.
Ooops, Ben, I'll write it for you . . .
T O O M U C H I N F O R M A T I O N !!!!!!!!!!!
Sir Reality (not affiliated with S U R R E A L I T Y)
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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:15:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "Matthew A. Schnoor" <schnoor@cs.pdx.edu> To: Ytsejam List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: JAM #1694 Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960716160554.7624B-100000@sarin.cs.pdx.edu>
In JAM # 1694, Chris Merlo spake thusly: > You ever secretly wish that a band - mind you, not a great > band, but a I-won't-change-the-station-if-they-come-on band - would die > or something after you see them in concert, just so you could say that > you saw their last show?
Well... I can say (not-so-proudly) that I went to the last Grateful Dead show in Portland, OR. This was last May 29th BTW. It wasn't their last show.. I think that was in the June or July after that.
Oh... about your question... no, actually I don't wish that would've happened at all. We all knew that Jerry Garcia was gonna kick the bucket sometime... but it's kinda nuts to wish for the death of anyone, let alone one of the greatest guitarists in psychedelic rock. Saying "I saw their last show" is trivial, compared to the loss of a musician and, in this case, a great guy.
Anywayz... just thought I'd get that off my chest.
BTW -- I'm still collecting people's webpages for the YtseWeb page that I'm working on. If you haven't sent me your info (Name, Nick, Mail, URL, description/bio) get it in NOW! I'd really like to see this thing take off, but I don't have the time to scan every JAM for URL's and bug people individually for their info.
E-mail that stuff to me at schnoor@SpiritOne.com or you won't get on!
BTW2 -- Kudos to an original and hilarious .SIG by Spector. "Jaco was astonished..." .. I nearly wet myself there, dude. :)
BTW3 -- Has anyone else noticed an EXTREMELY HEAVY flow from the Jam? I got 4 JAMS yesterday. Good to see a lot of traffic, except when it's Pat Daugherty and Chris Merlo nitpicking each other about that tape trader. :)
That's all for me. See y'all around,
[ Matthew A. Schnoor ] [Bolo@ytsejam@irc.dreamt.org:2112] [ schnoor@cs.pdx.edu ] [http://www.cs.pdx.edu/~schnoor ] [ YTSEWEB PAGES: http://www.cs.pdx.edu/~schnoor/ytseweb ] [ "A truly wise man never plays leapfrog with a unicorn. ]
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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:29:06 -0700 From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Kick Out The Jams Message-ID: <199607162329.QAA18377@main.cfmc.com>
In no particular order:
1) As I mentioned in a previous post here, I'm originally from Long Beach, California, and was very much a part of the "scene" there. They were light years away from my band musically (I'm tempted to say "not as good," but I'll leave that out of the conversation for the moment), but Sublime is the only band that grew out of the same OC/LA scene that I played in for years that really got very far (Unles you count Youth Brigade, Middle Earth, Zen, or The Lost Souls) commercially. Brad Newell's OD, then, was a pretty bitter pill for a lot of us to swallow. I'm not there, anymore, and have only spoken about it from a few people, but the general concensus seems to be something along the lines of "He knew the risks going in," which you could certainly say about a lot of more notable people whose extra-curricular activities placed them in mortal danger... Jaco, Charlie Parker, Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, Kurt Cobain, et. al. A lot of us know that scene, even if we aren't participants. The bottom line -- drugs are the hamartia of rock n' roll (and jazz and blues and bouzouki music).
2) Seeing Ray Alder live, I couldn't have been more impressed. It was like watching someone with a 454 engine with the hemi....most of the time, you just have this amazing tool and power and every once in a while, it's a blast to step on the gas. I LOVE listening to that guy sing. Arch is good, but not THAT good. Not in my opinion, anyhow.
3) I reject the notion that "The Real Thing" was just a ploy to get Faith No More into the mainstream. You don't release and album like THAT -- not then -- expecting to receive commercial acceptance. It was too radical an album....not radical on the same order of Mr. Bungle, but a natural step from "Introduce Yourself" and "We Care A Lot." Incidentally, Mike Bordin's a hell of a drummer....
Adam Barnhart adamb@cfmc.com ydnt85a@prodigy.com
Five Gratuitous CD's: ===================== 1. Not Of This Earth: Joe Satriani 2. Rose Colored Glasses: Animal Logic 3. Parallels: Fates Warning 4. Mortal City: Dar Williams 5. Rush: 2112
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