YTSEJAM digest 1603

Date: Tue Jun 04 1996 - 09:49:59 EDT

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    Today's Topics:

      1) weird stuff
     by (Andrew Miller)
      2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1599
     by (Ernesto Schnack)
      3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1602
     by (Ernesto Schnack)
      4) This is getting ABSURD!!!
     by (Aaron K Silverman)
      5) WoOt!
     by Ben Laussade <>
      6) It Barks, But It Ain't No Dog.
      7) Derek and Cows!
     by "Frank Benenati" <>
      8) Vision, my band....(sorry NDTC}
     by "Frank Benenati" <>
      9) Ronnie Scott - PLEASE!!!
     10) The "German" topic
     by Bernd Basmer <>
     11) Various
     by "Ollila Marko" <>
     12) Gotta wonder
     by Partha Mukhopadhyay <>
     13) Summer
     by borlangw <>
     14) Top 10s
     by "Richard Karsmakers" <>


    Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 23:12:16
    From: (Andrew Miller)
    Subject: weird stuff
    Message-ID: <>

    >> oh jesus. you are an idiot.
    >Supposedly there's a place for all of us in heaven, Andy. Now I'm not
    >exactly the pope or anything, but this sort of prayer probably isn't the
    >best way to get there.

    hehe. Bafu, i always look forward to reading your posts. you definitely
    have a great (and EXTREMELY original) sense of humor. but damn you're one
    wierd S.O.B. at times. :)

    >he shouted from within the jar as I once again in my usual childish manner
    >questioned the Welch's grape regarding its whereabouts on the evening of
    >May 24th...

    "waiter, i'll have what Bafu's having. make it a double!"

    >Dan's 10 favorite guitarists whom you must all bow down to:

    apparently people are still forgetting that top ten lists are a no-no on
    the jam. oh well.

    BTW, i bow before no one.

    >> Where's the beef???
    >I hope you like it well done. :)

    AAHHH! watch as all the vegetarians on the list get sick.

     C O M E V I S I T M Y W E B P A G E!!!!!!!!
     Andrew Miller - keyboardist -
     - SubtleRage (progressive rock)
     - Interum (new age/prog instrumental)


    Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 23:22:18 -0400
    From: (Ernesto Schnack)
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1599
    Message-ID: <>

    Ernie went out to buy 'Load' today.

    but Ernie didn't find it.

    silly Ernie thought that Panama would be considered 'the rest of the world'

    but Ernie was wrong.

    so instead, Ernie bought the new Pantera.

    Ernie is happy:)

    comments on the new Pantera: 1) Suicide Note Pt1 reminds me of Zep's 'Going
    to California'

                                  2) Phil sounds like Eddie Vedder on Flood.

    Now as for if the CD is any good, I'm sure you all know:)

    about the survey thingey:

    >3 votes: Aerosmith, Black Sabbath, Dave Matthews Band, Deep Purple,
    Ok...Ben, me, who was the third one? :)

    > Clawfinger,

    "NIGGER!" (that's a song by Clawfinger BTW...don't take it the wrong way)

    > Diamond Head,

    "My mother was a witch...she was burned alive."


    Hey, I've actually heard that band... was a while back though, don't
    remember much... unless you're talking about the actual classical composer...

    > Frank Zappa,

       One vote for Zappa? WTF?


    C-ya, wouldn't wanna B-ya!!
    Ernie :)


    Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 23:45:16 -0400
    From: (Ernesto Schnack)
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1602
    Message-ID: <>

    > Thorry to potht thomething tho thort, but there wath a power thurge
    >and my firtht reply ith now hithtory. Theeya.

    uh, Ben, not here... I can live w/ it on IRC, but if I see that here
    again, I'll have ta kik your ass!;)

    > From: (Scott Cook)
    > Subject: The Clinton's vs. Hitler
    > Ya know Neil, you're really good at goofing on America, but at least
    > the leaders of our country don't go around gathering up a group of
    > people and exterminate them for absolutely no reason what so ever. When

    When I first read this, I felt an urge to reply (me being half German and
    all) but to prevent problems I'll keep my mouth shut. I'll just say
    this...Scott, this is something you should've DEFINITELY done privately. You
    gave your reasons and all, but besided the fact that many people probably
    won't find those reasons to justify your commentary, there will be some that
    will click on 'Reply' b4 they get to that part...

    oooooooooh, I really feel like saying something, but I don't want a 'Sat.
    Jun 2, 1996 on #ytsejam' to start here;)

    C-ya, wouldn't wanna B-ya!!
    Ernie :)


    Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 22:44:19 PST
    From: (Aaron K Silverman)
    Subject: This is getting ABSURD!!!
    Message-ID: <>

    I hate to repeat myself, but I really feel the need here. I really think
    that people should think for at least 2 seconds about what they've
    written before they send it out here. I thought the gross stuff a while
    back was bad, but that whole Hitler tirade from the last 'Jam drove me
    batty batty batty! I can't believe someone would bring that up because
    someone told a JOKE about Clinton. Whatever you think of him, it was a
    JOKE, and scolding a German guy because of Hitler is probably the most
    offensive thing I've EVER seen in 5 years on the Internet. Get a
    dictionary and look up:


    Thank you!


    PS That was a FUNNY joke, anyway!


    Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 22:07:14 -0700
    From: Ben Laussade <>
    Subject: WoOt!
    Message-ID: <>

    >Sad But True.


    I'M YOUR LIFE AND I NO LONGER CAAAAAAARE! duhduhduduhduhduhdcruuuuuunch.

            'Tallica is cool.

    >Those were only the Jews. The other 6,000,000 were not,
    > but were killed for similar reasons (Catholics, gays,
    > Jehovah's Witnesses, gypsies, etc.).

    SHUT UP!!!! This topic does not make a good Jamversation.

    >(sorry I went ahead and answered some of those, but I needed to illuminate
    >an idea, and I couldn't really do that by leaving stuff up in the air.
    >Ben, if you want to thrash #2 with another story about hot spicy food,
    >feel free.)

    Gee. Thankth, Bafu. Unfortunately, though, I don't happen to have another
    thpithy food thtory to tell. That one wath the only good one. Of courthe, if
    you want a diarrhea-from-thpithy food thtory, I've got plenty of thothe. Tee

            I want my.
            I want my.
            I want my LOAD LOAD LOAD!

    Ytse's for nothin' and yer Jam's fer free.
    Ben Laussade


    Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 02:04:21 -0400
    To: Wilderness Of Mirrors <>
    Subject: It Barks, But It Ain't No Dog.
    Message-ID: <>

    Jam 1602, a few things from good old Sleepless In Seattle:

    >From: Steve Borzilleri <>
    >Subject: Woof! Woof-woof!!


    >Time to get numerical on your ass. :)

    "Divergent proper integral, muthafucka! Can you derive it?"

    [numbered paragraphs of vitriolic anti-capitalistic raving deleted]

    >But the definition holds.

    Uh, what's your point?

             "Life sucks. Get a fucking helmet." -- Doctor Denis Leary

    And now, out of chronological order... Jam 1601:

    >From: Steve Borzilleri <>
    >Subject: NI = C + I + G + (EX-IM) = NP

    >> oh jesus. you are an idiot.
    >Supposedly there's a place for all of us in heaven, Andy. Now I'm not
    >exactly the pope or anything, but this sort of prayer probably isn't the
    >best way to get there.

    "Oh Jesus. You are a FUCKING Idiot." Better?

    (I hope Michael Coghlan didn't see that.)

    >> (no fucking sig file this time cause i might have misspelled
    >> something..)
    >Actually, if you were ABOUT to write a .sig, your grammar would be in the
    >future tense, so you should have said "cause I might misspell something."

    Not only that, but you would have used the word "because" in place of
    "cause", placed a comma after "time" to split the compound sentences
    (optional), uppercased "No" and "I" by the elementary rules of
    capitalization, placed a period before the "s" in "sig" as Bafu did, and used
    THREE dots in your ellipses.

    Other things: Alex Lifeson. He is good, as any Rush fan would vehemently
    agree, but after having bought and cringed my way through "Victor," I think I
    found out why he's so underrated. Take away Neil and Geddy, and you have...

    Metallica's new album. With a name like "Load," I can already see the corny
    pun headlines of record reviews... "Metallica Blows Their Load"... "Metallica
    Makes a Load"... "Load Runner"... "The Mother Load"... "What A Big Fat
    Steaming Load Of Sellout Grunge Shit"...

    Neil G's joke: I thought it was funny. We Americans rip on the government
    and our leaders all the time, what's the big deal? Q: What do Bill Clinton
    and flour have in common? A: They're both IN BRED. What, am I a commie now?
     Lighten up, comrade.

    "What? The Land Of The Free? Whoever told you that is YOUR ENEMY."

    At least Germany had a leader named "Helmut." What an awesome name... I
    think I'm going to name my son that. Helmut Herman. No one will ever fuck
    with HIM on the playground, I'll tell ya that. Achtung, baby.

    And now, my Top Ten Favorite Guitarists, all the first CD's and tapes I ever
    bought, all the CD's in my 100-disc changer, the results of my poll, a repost
    of Ytse and Jam, some cool forwarded jokes, a chain letter from Brain Tumor
    Boy, and this thing I found about a FANTASTIC FREE MAGAZINE OFFER!!

    Well, maybe later.

    Is A Tripping Billie


    Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 02:19:12 -0400
    From: "Frank Benenati" <>
    To: "" <>
    Subject: Derek and Cows!
    Message-ID: <>

    > From: (Jose Vaquera)
    > Derek won't receive publishing
    > from ACOS since he's probably not on the copyright paperwork as a
            Uh...yes, Derek will....he IS on the Copyright paperwork as an
    author...Those solo's he did...{especially the cool piano one with
    Mike}....are considered Mealody...something that legally constitues
    copyright....unless a band is doing a cover...then there are different
    laws regarding copyright...


    > From: Mithrandir <>
    > The last thing I'll say about Hockey is just two words " Bryan
    > Berard". You just wait and see what this kid will do, can anyone say
    > Potvin reborn?

            I think Im gonna go heat up some Gordons!
    > If you want to watch the Ranger games just come over to my house
    > whenever you want, I had forgotten about your fiscal problems, sorry.

            Thanks dude!!!...but the seasons year!

    > M O O O O O J O M A N L O V E S C O W S !!!!!!!!

            You got that right....just ask Carlene!

            Ellen masturbates with a wooden nickel.

    J U S T S A Y M O J O !!!!!!!


    Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 02:22:51 -0400
    From: "Frank Benenati" <>
    To: "" <>
    Subject: Vision, my band....(sorry NDTC}
    Message-ID: <>

            Hey Ytsejammers....

            Just letting you know,

            My Original band, Vision has made the Long Island Music Festival....and I
    finally have the dates of the shows....

            Vision is appearing at:

            The Vegas Bar and Grill
            in Copague, on Montauk Highway.....
            on Wednesday, June 26th, 1996
            the show starts at 9:00pm

            (EMAIL ME FOR

    Hope to see the Island-Jammers down there voting for Vision.

    J U S T S A Y M O J O !!!!!!!


    Date: Tue, 04 Jun 1996 10:29:00 +0100
    Subject: Ronnie Scott - PLEASE!!!
    Message-ID: <>

    Mornin' All,

    I saw that someone posted the set-list from the Ronnie Scott gig here the
    other day...and now I'd like to repeat my plea from a week or so ago:

    If there is someone out there with a tape/bootleg, whatever of this gig,
    please get in touch, as I'd love to have a copy!!! Preferably of the best
    possible know how it is! Mail me at private e-mail.

    Best wishes,

    Jon Berger


    Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 10:39:43 +0200
    From: Bernd Basmer <>
    Subject: The "German" topic
    Message-ID: <>


    I just want to tell everybody that Scott Cook emailed me privately
    and we talked about this Hitler/Nazi thing in private mail and
    I told him that I think (IMHO) that he shot with very big weapons
    on little aims.

    PLEASE don't fill the jam with these things because I don't want
    to see things here that happened 50 years ago and no one on this
    list does have ANYTHING to do with it!!! At least I don't and
    I even don't want to have something to do with it. This is
    a MUSIC list, like someone said before, and a list about DT. So
    PLEASE let this thing rest in peace. It's history (though a bad one,
    I know) and no one can be blamed for things that happened dozens
    of years before he was born (IMHO). Every country has had
    bad things that happened in its history. I know this one was
    more than bad. But still it's HISTORY and has nothing to do
    with MUSIC or DT.

    If you want to talk about this thing, email me privately.

    Thank you.



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    Date: 4 Jun 96 13:28:51 +0200
    From: "Ollila Marko" <>
    Subject: Various
    Message-ID: <>

    Hello again 'jamanoids. Gosh, posting is getting to be a habit for me...

    Firstly I must raise my voice about Holocaust flame wars. Stop them before you
    even start them. THIS IS NOT THE PLACE. I will not go to the causes, but if
    someone still has something to say to me about this, get in the fucking ring,
    but let's do it off the 'jam. History is what's gone and can't be undone. Look
    around yourselves and learn to criticize in time or shut the fuck up. A-men.
    In fact I think Skadz should include the whole topic to forbidden topics list
    along with religious matters. Anyone remember Michael C.? I thought so. I don't
    want to either.

    Would someone tell me in what stage exactly Joe Lynn Turner was a member of
    TNT? I have four albums by the band (Knights...,Tell No Tales, Intuition and
    Realized Fantasies) but I see no JLT here...did JLT sing just a couple of songs
    w/ Tony Harnell or am I missing something here? A funny coincidence is the fact
    that the last drummer of TNT has joined Riot. Joe Lynn Turner sang on Riot's
    "Privilege of Power". Also, I must correct a little bit of false information
    here. Tony Harnell has been the vocalist of TNT all the way, ever since the
    "Knights...". Someone told he wasn't with the band back then, but he must've
    been confused some way. Tony Harnell is not the man's real name. The name on the
    sleeve of "Knights..." is the man's real name. So there. Thus spoke your "cheesy
    80's hair metal" expert Mape. BTW, I had a metal-only radio show back 1988-90. I
    should know my stuff. But if I don't, slap me.



    Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 08:59:15 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <>
    Subject: Gotta wonder
    Message-ID: <>

    ..if Bafu got this reference, being the non-Rush fan he is....

    >> From: Steve Borzilleri <>
    >> the Welch's grape regarding its whereabouts on the evening of May 24th...

    > They were sitting in the sand to watch the fireworks display. :)

    partha sarathi mukhopadhyay

    DTC? another misheard lyric I'm talking about the Killing Hand, near the
    End where it goes, "I race to the wall to find....."
    Instead, I hear, "I race to the waterfall" and I causually ignore the
    fact that the name appears in water.....maybe it's like the lights at
    Niagara Falls?


    Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 14:12:51 +0100
    From: borlangw <>
    Subject: Summer
    Message-ID: <>

    I just finished my final exam in my final year of university.

    I can now proudly announce that University Sucks :-)

    So now I get to lie around, play computer games, sunbathe, listen to music
    (how long is it since I got to do that?), and maybe turn up for work sometime
    soon :-)

    And I might have time to read a few jams too :-)

    Happy Summer, everyone ;-)

    Graham B.

    P. S. An American flaming a Briton for things that a dead German guy did 50
    years ago? THAT was weird . . .
    | |
    | Graham Borland,, |::


    Date: Tue, 4 Jun 96 15:44:30 CST
    From: "Richard Karsmakers" <>
    Subject: Top 10s
    Message-ID: <>

     What have you guys got against top 10 kind of entries? I myself am surprised
    at some of the inane things that are going on on this list, such the "who
    got an EOJ" things. But that's the charm of this list. If someone starts a
    thread on TNT - that I don't give a damn about - then so be it. I happily
    skip them. It's the same with the top 10 stuff. If you don't like 'em, skip
    'em. They taper off anyway, eventually, and don't forget that these top 10
    things *do* evolve, even if someone replies to them every time they occur.
    People bring up the waste of bandwidth, but isn't every Ytsejam about 90%
    waste of bandwidth in the first place? It's the 10% of gems that make this
    the outstanding list that I read every day (on the contrary to that of
    Metallica, for example, where "fuck" and "fucking" and "sellout" comprise
    90% of the words and the rest is a waste of bandwidth too :-).
     I think complaints about top 10 entries have taken up just as much space as
    the top 10 entries themselves. This is a free country. This is a free list.
    If you don't like it that way, join the "metropolis" list (which still
    doesn't exist, does it, and that says a lot about the amount of people who
    would rather have a slimmed-down and non-top-10 list, i.e. them being a firm
     If this message incites someone to flame, well, go ahead. It's just my
    opinion. But do take it off the 'Jam and send it to me privately.
     Now I'm going to get my foot out of my mouth. Or maybe put it in there,
    whatever the case may be.

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