YTSEJAM digest 1602

Date: Mon Jun 03 1996 - 23:57:32 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 1602

    Today's Topics:

      1) Jim Matheos on IRC Tonight!
     by (jskewes)
      2) RQ's CD Player -- bug report (please read)
     by (Robert Q.)
      3) Carpe Diem review
     by Michael Bahr <>
      4) TNT, Derek's Royalties, and Lala Tixs
     by (Jose Vaquera)
      5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1599
     by Daniel McCormack <>
      6) Woof! Woof-woof!!
     by Steve Borzilleri <>
      7) Ytsejam Stickers
      8) Oh no.
     by Ben Laussade <>
      9) TNT Comeback Question
     by buster <>
     10) my top 1,000 favorite guitarrists in chronological, alphabetical, order i like them, and categorial order.
     by RipZero <>
     11) Moojoman
     by Mithrandir <>
     12) Re: Concerts/ Edge Of Sanity
     by jbako01 <>
     13) Savatage !?!
     by Sava Web <>
     14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1601
     by (Zack Gemmill)
     15) Stuff and bother
     by The Digital Man <>


    Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 16:46:42 -0500
    From: (jskewes)
    Subject: Jim Matheos on IRC Tonight!
    Message-ID: <>

    I saw this on
    It's supposed to happen tonight - June 3!!!
    Somebody log it and post it...!



    Jim Matheos will be available to answer questions (about the lineup
    changes or anything else, I suppose) via IRC.

    Time: 9 pm eastern
    Channel: #FatesWarning
    Jim will be on as Matheos


    Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 21:48:18 GMT
    From: (Robert Q.)
    Subject: RQ's CD Player -- bug report (please read)
    Message-ID: <>

    On Mon, 3 Jun 1996 12:33:25 -0700 (PDT), Omar Torres
    <> wrote:

    >in respect to Robert Quezada's CD player...well im downloading it right
    >now...hey it must be cool that feature about the lyrics...and skipping
    >to any part of the song and all..and even better when it includes the
    >lyric files to some of DT's cds...:) i'll test it and tell you how it
    >is...i just want it to be better than windows 95's default cd player :)
    I just wanted to let anyone who downloaded my program that there was a
    bug in the Compact File option and DeleteCD option that caused the
    program to lock up. There was also a problem with the negative times
    being displayed incorrectly in the "Remain" modes.

    The new version 0.85 is on my Web page. If you already downloaded the
    old version, just download the EXE file (about 40KB).


    Visit RQ's Software Page at

    CinemaScope TV (NT 3.51+ only, not Win95)
     *req. Hauppauge's HighQ or Celebrity TV cards
     *View in Standard TV ratio (4:3) or Widescreen (16:9 , 2.35:1)

    RQ's CD Player (for NT/Win95) Now available!!
     *Uses special lyric files to view lyrics as they're sung.
     *Can download these lyric files from internet and use them
       without special configuration
     *Divide songs into indices


    Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 15:13:58 -0700 (MST)
    From: Michael Bahr <>
    Subject: Carpe Diem review
    Message-ID: <>

            Well, I got it, Carpe Diem #44. For those USA Jammers who sent me
    the order, I made out the Big Check for Marcel last week, so it's already
    headed toward him.

            Carpe Diem is a very nice piece of work.. I wish I were able to come up
    with slick liners like that. Legalities prevent my use of pictures of the
    band, and that's one of the things I really like about Diem, naturally.
    Denis and the crew did a great job on 'em.

            This thing is on a RECORDABLE CD! That was a big shock. I was
    originally going to do it that way, but costs were through the roof, and
    the CDs can be defect-ridden. To Marcel's credit, Diem plays perfectly
    all the way through, and obviously if costs were a problem, he wouldn't
    have done the project, so I guess it must not be an issue in this case.
    The painted label on the CD is very nicely done... trust me, I've tried. :)

            As for the sound.. well, it's an audience DAT. It sounds like
    one. It's crisp, clear, and contains clapping. The performance is
    enjoyable to listen to and you're never suffering for clarity. The sound
    level is a bit low on the CD, but that's what volume knobs are for.

            I guess I may seem picky because of my experience doing it
    myself, but I want to make clear that these are all minor nits and that
    Carpe Diem is, overall, an excellent CD!! Definitely worthy of a debut...
    hell, worthy of release any old time. Very well done!

            If you want one, the man with the plan is at,
    Marcel Berkhout. Take it easy everyone!

    - voluntas vincit omnia - Mike Bahr - -


    Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 17:18:34 -0500 (CDT)
    From: (Jose Vaquera)
    Subject: TNT, Derek's Royalties, and Lala Tixs
    Message-ID: <>

     You think Ronnie sounded good on 'Knights of the New Thunder'? A few years
    after that he started using a guitar with quarter-tone frets. Stick an extra
    fret between the ones you have now and you get the basic idea. He was doing
    some really sick stuff (read: good) with this guitar. They never really had
    a catchy tune so they faded out. No real DT-type audience back then.
    Everybody wanted 40+ minutes epics from their prog bands back then.
     As far as Derek is concerned with royalties, the only album he'll get
    royalties from is ACOS. Kevin will receive royalties from all other albums
    and as long as radio keeps playing PMU and TTT and any other singles, he'll
    continue to receive publishing royalties. Derek won't receive publishing
    from ACOS since he's probably not on the copyright paperwork as a writer.
    There's a cool article covering this side of the business in the new GUITAR
    mag. It sort of explains why so many rap acts are filing bankruptcy. The
    money isn't really there if you don't play the game right.
     Lolapalooza(sic?) tickets are on sale at <> and at the Lola
    site. That lola(however you spell it, forgive me).com. If you have a credit
    card you can get them before the general public.

    "I know what that is.......WHAT THE HELL IS THAT???????"

    "I bet that never happened in Home Ec."

    The one, the only, you know him you love him, you can't live without him.

    Joe "The Kid" Vaquera


    Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 18:21:41 -0300
    From: Daniel McCormack <>
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1599
    Message-ID: <>

    > From: (Ernesto Schnack)
    > Subject: PLEASE READ THIS... pretty please?

    Oh shit, sorry, I didn't see this when I posted mine. My deepest apologies. Well, i DID get my
    2nd (or maybe 3rd) EOJ with that post... Heehee. :)


    > From: "Steven C. Young" <>
    > Subject: Ytse-Survey Intl: FINAL RESULTS (It's finally over -- QR takes it)
    > I think it might surprise you to know that there were 176 bands/artists
    > that only received one vote each (12 on the final day alone); that's well
    > over half of the 296 submitted entries. We 'Jammers get around.
    > Okay, here are the rest of the results - there were some darn interesting
    > entries, as you'll see:

    [snip, snip, hehehe, snip, snip!]

    > 2 votes: Annihilator, Arena, Asia, Atomic Opera, Barren Cross, Boston,

    [more snipping...]

    > Stratovarius, Styx, Tchaikovsky, They Might Be Giants, Toto,

    Tchaikovsky! I was one of those 2 votes!

    > 1 vote: Paula Abdul, Accept, AC/DC, Alan Parsons Project, Alchemy,

    [yes even more snipping.. Is this a disease? Kind of like pyromaniacy? :)]

    > Barenaked Ladies, The Beatles, Beethoven, Bel Canto,

    Beethoven was mine! Wow, i was the only one?

    > The Offspring, Oppressor, Overkill, Paganini, Pearl Jam, Phish,

    Paganini! Another one of mine. I'm the only one here who likes Paganini?

    > Thanks for bearing with me, you guys. It's been fun - for me, anyway.

    Ditto. :)

    > You guys (and gals) rule - take care, y'all.

    Aw, shucks, t'wern't nuthin'... :)

    Ok, NOW I'm gone.

    -That DMC Guy-


    Daniel McCormack

    "All the dead greenery, sacrificed for you and me I'm the one who cares for them - I'm a Carnatarian" - Chris Merlo (D-Man), Carnatarian, Polio Dog

    "They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist-" - General John Sedgewick, Union Commander in the Civil War, speaking his last words.


    Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 15:36:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Borzilleri <> To: Dream Thespians <> Subject: Woof! Woof-woof!! Message-ID: <>

    > From: matt rosin <> > Subject: stuff > >>humans will be improving and evolving until the end of the world! >>Endless evolution! Don't you just LOVE being human? I wonder if Fucking >>Sellout Records is hiring.... > > geez, bafu, chill. that had absolutely NOTHING to do with anything i > said, so don't go blowing up at me about relativity's format change. > they own the company, not you, and they are entitled to do anything > they want whether you or i like it or not.

    Time to get numerical on your ass. :)

    1. Who's blowing up at you?

    2. Who's blowing up?

    3. Who disagrees with you that Relavitity will do whatever it wants?

    4. What do you call someone who begins something, draws much love and respect, carves a niche in the world of music for a particular style, grows that style into a family and houses a host of struggling artists who write everything they do and have more combined musical talent than just about any other style of music out there...then suddenly decides to do a 180 and kick out all of his children in favor of what is popular and more widely accepted by the public? A fucking sellout.

    5. What do you call someone who refuses to stick to his guns and instead runs with what he knows will make him prosperous as opposed to continuing down a path of hardship and unknown outcomes? A fucking sellout. I tend to grant this title to people who take the easy road at the expense of others, and as reluctant as I am to do so, I must declare that Relativity has accomplished that feat with flying colors.

    6. Painful truth time. What do you call someone who decides to put food on his table, and in doing so sacrifices his trade for something less honorable, knowing he will receive a sudden increase in profit? One who willingly trades his essence for money with no regard for those who support him or those who he supports? Yes, the people at Relativity will probably have somewhat easier lives now that they've made this switch. It was a wise move on their part indeed.

    But the definition holds.


    (sorry I went ahead and answered some of those, but I needed to illuminate an idea, and I couldn't really do that by leaving stuff up in the air. Ben, if you want to thrash #2 with another story about hot spicy food, feel free.)

    Bafu Vai


    Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 18:55:08 -0400 From: To: Subject: Ytsejam Stickers Message-ID: <>

    Hi .. i was wondering if anyone can give me the info on how to get those Ytsejam stickers that were shown on a web page ... i think the page is down ..and me and a couple of friends were going to buy like 10 stickers .


    Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 16:22:16 -0700 From: Ben Laussade <> To: Subject: Oh no. Message-ID: <>

    > >Ya know Neil, you're really good at goofing on America, but at least >the leaders of our country don't go around gathering up a group of >people and exterminate them for absolutely no reason what so ever.

    Now, I wasn't going to reply to these last three Jams, but heed this:

    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!! Do NOT start a Holocaust flame war, okay? That was over 50 years ago. Don't forget about it, but DON'T DIG IT UP ON A MUSIC LIST!!!!

    Why? Becauthe I'm thenthitive.

    Thorry to potht thomething tho thort, but there wath a power thurge and my firtht reply ith now hithtory. Theeya.

    And I listen openly. Ben Laussade


    Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 19:43:45 -0400 From: buster <> To: Subject: TNT Comeback Question Message-ID: <>

    -'bout joining reunited-TNT but he doesn't like Tony 'cuz -he's some kind of Rock-star type. So drummer is vacant place but these 3 -guys will back to the rock scene.Do you think still they have a chance to -back to the rock scene?

    -Keiji Nishihara

    Hey Keiji...I was a big fan of Ronnie LeTekro years ago, and Ronnie's influence played a major part in coining my guitar technique, so please don't get angry when I say this: I don't think TNT stands a chance at a real comeback.

    It's not because of TNT's talent, but thier style (which they never became really well known at to begin with) of playing had it's time. Unfortunately for players like them (and myself), that type of music is not something that the record industry will even remotely consider promoting anymore. The labels are interested in only one thing: $$$$$...and the big money is being spent on Mallternative CD's with 3 minute songs by "flash in the pan" artists. (yes, I'll call those bands artists, but you can't make me call them musicians! you can't!! no way!! AHHH!) sorry....lost it a little there. :)

    Although it's unfortunate (for some of us) the "TNT" type of era has come and gone, at least some of us can say we experienced it and were influenced by it.

    Peace, buster


    Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 19:13:18 -0500 From: RipZero <> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <> Subject: my top 1,000 favorite guitarrists in chronological, alphabetical, order i like them, and categorial order. Message-ID: <>

    skatin thru the jams-

    >hey man, shut up, I can now ollie about an inch off the ground! :) You >don't decide if someone's a poseur based on their skating ability. >They're a poseur if they dress like skaters, talk like skaters, claim >they can skate, can't, and don't try to learn.

    i remember the good ol' days of skatin' Ray Underhill Lance Mountain and Skate Master Tate were the boyz. :) On this poseur thing, i remember going thru all this stuff before... ever played Skate or Die 2? you get to be Poseur Pete in a town which i beleve called Elwood which is inhibited by sk8rz. very rockin' but wha' is a poseur? ah who gives a flying fuck. The only board i still have is this one that i put 8 wheels on, i'm surprised i can still get that thing about a foot off the ground. but hey, the sec. i got my geetar the board went down to rust too! anyone remember gleaming the cube? i think Tony Hawk played the pizza guy.

    hi, for those just tuning in this is no longer the Ytsejam, but the Skateboarding Int'l Mailing List.

    Dan, I hope you unsubbed the Jam for the weeks you'll be gone, you'll have a few hundred to catch up on if you don't... just imagine downloading 4 weeks worth of mail. And have fun a summa skool, pack a walkman and some Van Halen!


    oh yeah, almost forgot about the guitarrists-

    ha! put that flame thrower away! i'm just KIDDDDIIIINGGGGG!! <:)


    Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 19:16:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Mithrandir <> To: Subject: Moojoman Message-ID: <>

    Hey Mooojo, I was not tyrying to say that Alex Lifeson is the greatest guitarist or anything. I was trying to get the point across that he is a member of a band that influenced most progressive guitarists. Since he is a part of that band, I am saying in some way he has been an influence. He has co-written every RUSH song so he does have some credentials.

    The last thing I'll say about Hockey is just two words " Bryan Berard". You just wait and see what this kid will do, can anyone say Dennis Potvin reborn?

    If you want to watch the Ranger games just come over to my house whenever you want, I had forgotten about your fiscal problems, sorry.

    Attention Mike Bahr: I still have not received the discs I ordered almost two months ago and you have not answered my E-mails please e-mail me with some information as to the whereabouts of the discs, Thank you, John Cahill

    M O O O O O J O M A N L O V E S C O W S !!!!!!!! Elen sila lumenn omentilmo, Mithrandir


    Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 22:30:29 -0400 (EDT) From: jbako01 <> To: Subject: Re: Concerts/ Edge Of Sanity Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960603221920.8096A-100000@barney>

    On Mon, 3 Jun 1996, Neil Gallop wrote:

    > It may seem a bit bit strange for me to first tear up a band for their live > performance and then praise their new album, but that's what I'm going to do. > Crimson consists of one single track that is about 40 minutes long (beats even > Dream Theater, huh) and is very Wagneresque in the way that it uses so-called > Leitthemen. Musically very much like Tiamat, and even the faster bits are well > played and the vocals are 100% better than the live stuff. Worth listening to.

    I have to second the Edge Of Sanity recommendation. Think of a progressive/gothic/death metal band, with great musicianship (though not as over-the-top as DT can sometimes get :) , and excellent songwriting abilities. As Neil mentioned, the Crimson album consists of a single 40-minute song. It is not subdivided into movements like DT/FW/Rush would do, but it flows very smoothly throughout, with several musical themes recurring from time to time. Lyrically, the song is a tale about the last generation of humans on earth who are unable to breed; but when a child is born it is percieved to have come from God, however, this child leaves a path of death and destruction. Amazingly, the story/lyrics were written two months _after_ the music was completed(!!!).

    DT fans who appreciate the more extreme forms of heavy music should hunt down this album (Black Mark records, good luck :). Personally, I feel this album is strong enough to rank among 1996's best albums (esp. since there's no DT album looming on the horizon).

    James Bako Polytechnic University Brooklyn, New York (graduating, soon to change)


    Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 21:35:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Sava Web <> To: Subject: Savatage !?! Message-ID: <199606040235.VAA03651@parka>

    Suicyco asked -- > > BTW, does anyone know what happened to Savatage? I thought they were > warming up for a U.S. tour? > >

    Actually no. They did two shows in the US for a warm up to their European Japan tour which they are currently on. The dates are listed below. Nothing is planned as yet for a US show. I have this hunch that when they get back from Japan they will probably go right into the studio and might not tour the US this time. But it is only a hunch at this time.

    Savatage Tour Dates ---------------------- May 16 Danbury, CT US May 17 Birch Hill Club, Old Bridge, NJ US May 25 Eindhoven Holland May 27 "Laitrit", Starsbourg France May 28 Paris France May 29 "Terminal Exposition", Nancy France May 30 Lyon France May 31 Pau France June 3 "Garage", Saarbrucken Germany June 4 Milano Italy June 5 Pratteln Switzerland June 6 Heilbron Germany June 7 Offenbach Germany June 8 Berlin Germany June 9 Oberhausen Germany June 13 Koumei A.M.Hall, Osaka Japan June 14 On Air West, Tokoyo Japan June 15 Club Citta, Kawasaki Japan -------------

    nathan bradley


    Date: Mon, 3 Jun 96 20:29:21 PDT From: (Zack Gemmill) To: Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1601 Message-ID: <9606040329.AA08773@tengs1>

    From: (Scott Cook) Subject: The Clintons vs. Hitler

    >>From: (Neil Gallop)

    >>What do you get if you cross a crooked lawyer with a crooked >>politician? Chelsea Clinton

    Sad But True.

    I'd rather have a president that cheats on his wife than some psychopath Funny, Clinton believes in gun control; so did Hitler, but I digress...

    that has 6,000,000 people exterminated for some sick reason I can't even begin to understand.

    Those were only the Jews. The other 6,000,000 were not, but were killed for similar reasons (Catholics, gays, Jehovah's Witnesses, gypsies, etc.). Just a useless observation. Zach


    Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 23:44:32 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <> To: Subject: Stuff and bother Message-ID: <>

    > From: The Digital Man <> > Subject: Damned computers > > Hey folks. Well, it seems that someone here at UVM decided to upgrade > some machine or another this weekend, without telling anyone. So, not > only could I not read incoming mail, it seems that anything that people > sent to me after midnight Friday has been taken out back and shot. So,

    Well, fortunately, things is up and running again. I got all your e-mail, and my normal server is once again among the living. Don't re-send anything. I've still got about 30 e-mails to weed through. Phew!


    > From: Steve Borzilleri <> > Subject: NI = C + I + G + (EX-IM) = NP > > he shouted from within the jar as I once again in my usual childish manner > questioned the Welch's grape regarding its whereabouts on the evening of > May 24th...

    They were sitting in the sand to watch the fireworks display. :)


    > From: Omar Torres <> > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1599 > > in respect to Robert Quezada's CD player...well im downloading it right > now...hey it must be cool that feature about the lyrics...and skipping > to any part of the song and all..and even better when it includes the > lyric files to some of DT's cds...:) i'll test it and tell you how it > is...i just want it to be better than windows 95's default cd player :)

    Hey! How about one for us poor schleps stuck with Winblows 3.x? :)


    > From: (Scott Cook) > Subject: The Clinton's vs. Hitler > > Ya know Neil, you're really good at goofing on America, but at least > the leaders of our country don't go around gathering up a group of > people and exterminate them for absolutely no reason what so ever. When

    OK, uh, I'll be hiding under the desk until this one blows over. I don't want no part of this one.

    (Neil, should *I* tell Scott that you're British, or are you going to flame him back yourself?)

    > followers from 50 years ago. But I'm getting real tired of this asshole > ripping on America and I'd really like to see him stop.

    You must have no rithim. I mean, uh... oh, never mind.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart


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