YTSEJAM digest 1601

Date: Mon Jun 03 1996 - 17:43:19 EDT

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Carpe Diem, scratched CD's
      2) Putting flags up!!?
      3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1600
     by Majesty <>
      4) LATM - Japanese Version
     by mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
      5) Carpe Diem received?
      6) You are a true DT fan if ....
     by "mmetzger" <>
      7) DT related bands
      8) Kansas/Styx-concert review
     by Pat Daugherty <>
      9) Damned computers
     by The Digital Man <>
     10) NI = C + I + G + (EX-IM) = NP
     by Steve Borzilleri <>
     11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1599
     by Omar Torres <>
     12) The Clinton's vs. Hitler
     by (Scott Cook)
     13) ever heard of...
     by Jon Parmet <>
     14) does anyone actually use a subject for what a subjects for?
     by RipZero <>
     15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1592
     by Daniel McCormack <>


    Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 09:04:50 -0600
    Subject: Carpe Diem, scratched CD's
    Message-ID: <s1b2aa7e.084@IOMEGA.COM>

    Hey Peoples,
        I got Carpe Diem Saturday. YOU GOTTA GET IT!!!!! This is by far
    and away the most professional looking and sounding CD I have ever
    heard. The sound is very clean. There is only minimal phase
    distortion during UAGM, the 1st song, after that it's damn near
    perfect. Keep in mind this is an audience DAT source. If it weren't
    for the occasional fan screaming or talking close to the mic you'd
    think it was soundboard source as the frequency and dynamic range are
    quite wide. The performance sounds better than the BH tapes-the crowd
    is quite into this one as well. This version of ACOS is my favorite.
    They play this perfectly but I miss the phrase 'Gather Ye rosebuds
    while ye may' so I sing it for them :>. The photos are first class
    and are scanable-I now have new wallpaper for Windows. GET THIS CD
    IT'S GREAT!!! Marcel busted his butt to get this out with this kind
    of quality. I believe Mike Bahr ordered a copy-did you get it? It
    will be interesting to hear his review. This one gets all appendages
    besides thumbs up. Buy it people.
       On the scratched CD thing. I have had good luck using a q-tip and
    auto body buffing compound. This should be done only when the only
    alternative is replacing it. A small amount on the q-tip rubbed along
    with the scratch. You are only trying to dull the edge of the scratch
    as this is what's causing the reflected beam to split. Round this off
    and its own correction scheme can take over. Keep the buffing
    compound area confined to the scratch. Remove carefully with water as
    it is water soluble. I have a commercial cleaner but it only works
    with fingerprints or chocolate or such stuff not scratches. I have
    been lucky twice using this method. Good Luck


     B U Y C A R P E D I E M ! ! ! ! ! !


    Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 18:00:56 +0100
    Subject: Putting flags up!!?
    Message-ID: <add8c9f1000210042060@[]>

    >1 - Jason Becker (USA)
    >2 - John Petrucci (USA)
    >3 - Steve Vai (USA)
    >4 - Joe Satriani (USA)
    >5 - Yngwie Malmsteen (S/USA)
    >6 - Mads Eriksen (N)
    >7 - Eddie van Halen (NL/USA)
    >8 - Jimi Hendrix (USA)
    >9 - Bernd Steidl (D)
    >10 - Cyril Whistler (NL)

    >| Richard Karsmakers |

    A top ten list is enough of a pisser, do we REALLY have to add the
    nationalities to make things worse? Let music do the talking.

    Devrim A. AKYUZ
    Powder Technology Laboratory
    Materials Science Department
    Swiss Federal Institute of Technology

    Address : EPFL, LTP, MX-D, CH-1015 Ecublens, Switzerland.
    E-mail :
    Phone : +41-21-693 5106
    Fax : +41-21-693 3089


    Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 12:44:32 -0500
    From: Majesty <>
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1600
    Message-ID: <>

    > From: "Richard Karsmakers" <>
    > Subject: Ronnie Scott's track listing
    > Could someone email me the Ronnie Scott's gig track listing please?

    Funeral For a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding
    Perfect Strangers
    Red Hill Mining Town
    Led Zeppelin Medley
    The Rover
    Achille's Last Stand
    The Song Remains The Same
    Damage Inc.
    Happiness is a Warm Gun
    In The Dead of Night
    Yes Medley-Machine Messiah/Heart of the Sunrise/Close to the Edge
                    /Siberian Khatra/Warm
    Big Medley-In The Flesh/Carry On Wayward Son/Bohemian Rhapsody
                    /Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin'/Cruise Control/Turn It On Again

    > From: "Richard Karsmakers" <>
    > Subject: Metallica, and a question
    > Now some of you might have heard their DOnington appearance. They played
    > two new songs: "2x4" and "Devil's Dance". But the latter is not on the
    > album. Could someone fill me in which song used to be "Devi's Dance" (I
    > assume the song is on the album but simply got renamed).

    Devil's Dance is not on 'Load'. Instead they are going to put it on their
    next album which is expected to be released in about a year.

    Does anyone know where to buy Lollapalooza Tickets? I heard that
    Ticketmaster will not be handling the ticket sales.



    Date: Mon, 03 Jun 96 10:13:54 PST
    From: mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
    Subject: LATM - Japanese Version
    Message-ID: <9605038338.AA833822364@CCGATE.HAC.COM>

         Hey, I just found this at a local store (already had the German
         version, just wanted to be "complete" 8^)... I was wondering if
         anybody has a translation of the Japanese insert that comes with it...
    .~~~~~~~ Michael Kizer -- Computer Sciences Corporation (Tucson, AZ) ~~~~~~~.
    | Email: (preferred) -or- |
    | WWW: <--- Dream Theater Song Book here!|


    Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 19:32:07 +0200 (MET DST)
    Subject: Carpe Diem received?
    Message-ID: <>

    Hi all,

    Could everybody who received a copy of 'Carpe Diem' please e-mail me? I just
    want to make sure everyone gets his/her copy (and I can sleep better ;) ).



    Date: 3 Jun 1996 08:35:19 U
    From: "mmetzger" <>
    To: "YTSEJAM" <>
    Subject: You are a true DT fan if ....
    Message-ID: <n1378314339.93260@macsmtp>

    You cant listen to I&W without running to the rack, getting out DoE and playing
    LTL to hear the way it was supposed to end.

    Mark Metzger


    Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 13:37:28 PST
    Subject: DT related bands
    Message-ID: <>

    hello people-

    i've been lurking here for awhile, but i've also been out buying some of
    the CDs for bands i've seen mentioned on the jam. here's what i've got
    and what i think of them:

    Shadow Gallery [Carved in Stone] - most of you know of them by now.
    Influenced by DT, Queensryche, and even old Genesis. vocals are very
    different. Recommended

    Enchant [Blueprint of the World] - VERY influenced by Rush and Marillion.
    any given song is good, but they all sound too similar with very little
    dynamics. very long and flat.

    Ivanhoe [Symbols of Time] - ok, so they're a DT clone, but it's great
    stuff anyway. definately recommended

    Threshold [Psychadelicatessan] - eh. very 80's metal sounding. something
    here reminds me of WASP.

    Facade [Fade] - more of an independant release than the others, but good
    anyway. has some DT/QR influences, but with a commercial slant.

    World Trade [Euphoria] - pass on this one. great production all for

    Yes Tribute [Tales from Yesterday] - even if you're not a huge fan of
    Yes, you'll still like this because of the reworkings of most of the
    songs. It's also a good Magna Carta sampler. Recommended

    that's all i can think of. thanks for indulging.

    -= Felix =-


    Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 12:29:21 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Pat Daugherty <>
    To: Dream Theater Mailing List <>
    Subject: Kansas/Styx-concert review
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960603121317.18128L-100000@bdmserver>


    I saw Kansas and Styx last night at Meriweather Post Pavillion in
    Columbia, MD. I had seen Kansas at the same place last year with Alan
    Parsons. The sound quality of the show was no that great last year. This
    year Kansas was top-notch. The sound was great. The band was right on.
    They played a couple of songs that they did not play last year. 1 song in
    fact that I had never heard before (I dont have all their albums so...)
    The crowd sat for the show but Kansas received a standing ovation. I
    thought the support they got was impressive. Their encore was Dust In the
    Wind and Carry On Wayward Son. My only gripe was that they did the same
    Fight Fire with Fire/Play the Game Tonight medley that they did last
    year. Wow! I was extremely impressed with Kansas. They were great.

    Styx then came on to screaming fans and also put on an excellent show.
    Styx was right on. They were having a great old time. All the guys were
    joking around throughout the whole show. They played all their hits
    except for Mr. Roboto. A great acoustic set in the middle. A really coold
    Paradise Theater stage and effects. Once again I was very impressed.

    I think Styx/Kansas are a great fit. I think fans of Styx are fans of
    Kansas. Unlike last year when the pavillion was empty for Kansas/Alan
    Parsons, last night's show was very crowded and I would gather close to a
    complete sellout.

    I know some idiots in the various newsgroups were saying how Styx sucks
    and are teeny bopper music. All I have to say to them is "GET REAL".

    This was an incredible show... I recommend everyone to go see it.

    I saw 1 DT Awake shirt. Were there any jammers at the show?

    | Pat Daugherty |
    | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater |
    | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files |
    |The Baltimore Orioles-The team to beat in 1996!!!!!!! | Go DC United! |


    Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 15:08:58 -0400 (EDT)
    From: The Digital Man <>
    Subject: Damned computers
    Message-ID: <>

    Hey folks. Well, it seems that someone here at UVM decided to upgrade
    some machine or another this weekend, without telling anyone. So, not
    only could I not read incoming mail, it seems that anything that people
    sent to me after midnight Friday has been taken out back and shot. So,
    if anyone tried to send me mail about the Ytsecon over the weekend, hang
    on, and I'll see if I ever get that mail. If not, I'll just re-mail
    everyone, and tell you all to re-send that mail. In the meantime, if you
    have to send me mail, please send it to the following address:

    I'll be using that address until the machine decides to
    deliver my mail again. Happy jamming!

      The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart


    Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 12:10:09 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Steve Borzilleri <>
    To: Dream Thespians <>
    Subject: NI = C + I + G + (EX-IM) = NP
    Message-ID: <>

    > From: Marc Respass <>
    > Subject: Attention Mr. Administrator
    > Sorry to trouble everyone but I really have to unsubscribe from the
    > Ytsejam, however, repeated attempts have proved unsuccessful. I get an
    > error that I'm not subscribed as my email address. I got a couple of
    > responses telling me how to unsubscribe and I followed the directions a
    > number of times. I attempted to change the address but that didn't
    > work. Can someone please unsubscribe me?


    (aw, come on, other people have been hitting the "English, mofo, etc."
    line so much I got no staples left)

    > From: "Steven C. Young" <>
    > Subject: Re: G.A.S. (Explanation re-issued)
    > G.A.S. UPDATE!!!

    Uh... What exactly is it that you want?

    ---- > From: Michael Burstin <> > Subject: at long last... I'm back... > > Well, as the subject says... at long last, I have some free time, so > I'm back... for those of you who don't know me... I was one of the > origionals on the origional Ytsejam... from days... > almost 3.5 years ago...

    Whoah. One of the elders find his once beloved home nothing more than a wretched hive of scum and villainy... ;)

    ---- > From: (Andrew Miller) > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1585 > > > Rhythm: now THAT'S a fucked up word....And OK it's hard to get unless > > you've GOT it in your veins from the start. But, Andrew, spelling CAN > > be taught.

    Spelling? What is Dave attacking Andrew about? "Rhythm" is the proper spelling of the word rhythm. Don't tell me no one involved in this whole debate spotted this?

    > oh jesus. you are an idiot.

    Supposedly there's a place for all of us in heaven, Andy. Now I'm not exactly the pope or anything, but this sort of prayer probably isn't the best way to get there.

    > (no fucking sig file this time cause i might have misspelled > something..)

    Actually, if you were ABOUT to write a .sig, your grammar would be in the future tense, so you should have said "cause I might misspell something."

    ---- > From: (Andrew Miller) > Subject: grammar and spelling > > this is a message addressed to all the jammers that have been bitching > lately about typos, grammar, and such.

    Uh, I mean, your last post was fine. :)

    > i think i speak for most of the jam when i say GROW UP.

    he shouted from within the jar as I once again in my usual childish manner questioned the Welch's grape regarding its whereabouts on the evening of May 24th...

    ---- > From: The Digital Man <> > Subject: Bafu Bafu Bafu (oh, yeah, and the new guy) > > How about this: they are all crude torture devices oftem employed > against the victims of post-secondary education.

    A good analysis. Speaking of torture devices, after five days of serious assault on the wits of creator Cecilia Barajas and her team of tricksters, I finished Zork Nemesis. :> I highly recommend it to anyone who likes intellectual puzzle-type games. (I'd say, "puzzle-type games like Myst," but since everyone who played the original Infocom line regards Myst as Zork with graphics, that'd be kinda SILLY.)

    Barajas Vai


    Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 15:29:03 -0400 From: Omar Torres <> To: Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1599 Message-ID: <>

    in respect to Robert Quezada's CD player...well im downloading it right now...hey it must be cool that feature about the lyrics...and skipping to any part of the song and all..and even better when it includes the lyric files to some of DT's cds...:) i'll test it and tell you how it is...i just want it to be better than windows 95's default cd player :)


    Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 13:29:35 -0700 From: (Scott Cook) To: Subject: The Clinton's vs. Hitler Message-ID: <>

    >>From: (Neil Gallop)

    >>What do you get if you cross a crooked lawyer with a crooked >>politician? Chelsea Clinton

    Ya know Neil, you're really good at goofing on America, but at least the leaders of our country don't go around gathering up a group of people and exterminate them for absolutely no reason what so ever. When I went to Germany in 1978 I got a chance to visit Dachau. Even all these years later you walk on the grounds and look at the Gallow's poles and the ovens that the Nazis used to put the Jews in and kill them for absolutely no reason at all, and you can feel what happened there. So next time you feel the need to goof on one our leaders just think of what Hitler did and Bill Clinton is that bad of a guy. I'd rather have a president that cheats on his wife than some psychopath that has 6,000,000 people exterminated for some sick reason I can't even begin to understand.

    To the rest of the German people on the jam, I'm really sorry if I upset any of you. I'm mostly of German heritage (my Mom's Mom was born in Germany, and my dad was also part German), and I don't think it's fair to blame the whole German race for the actions of a madman and his followers from 50 years ago. But I'm getting real tired of this asshole ripping on America and I'd really like to see him stop.

    Scott Cook


    Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 20:10:14 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <> To: Subject: ever heard of... Message-ID: <>

    Anyone remember a band called Grand Prix? I'm on a mission...


    *------------*------------------------*----------------* | Jon Parmet | | (617)-494-2851 | *------------*------------------------*----------------*


    Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 15:37:27 -0500 From: RipZero <> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <> Subject: does anyone actually use a subject for what a subjects for? Message-ID: <>

    the 1600s... man it seems like only yesterday when D-Man sent out a post saying "welcome to the 1400s... oh wait, that was yesterday... so many damn jams my heads spinning :)

    all the replies on TNT kicked ass, who'd've thought it

    >"There's a blind desire...There's a drive...There's a need to lead some >nasty feet."

    "There's a blind desire...There's a drive...There's a need to fucking eat shit."



    Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 17:28:32 -0300 From: Daniel McCormack <> To: Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1592 Message-ID: <>

    > From: Ben Laussade <> > Subject: Lucy Furr. > > >"One of us always tells the truth, > > and one of us always lies." > > --Labyrinth > > Cool movie...Jenny Connely and David Bowie should do more flicks together. > > I'd quote something, but I can't remember a damned thing else about > it. :-)

    You remind me of the babe. What babe? The babe with the power. Who do? You do. Do what? Remind me of the babe.

    etc. :)


    > From: Jon Byrne <> > Subject: Re: ONE DUMBASS AND HIS AUDACITY (SP?) > > Unfortunately. And they're all selling shit you need to survive! :) > > ------------------------------ > > From: Jon Byrne <> > Subject: Re: ONE DUMBASS AND HIS AUDACITY (SP?) > > Unfortunately. And they're all selling shit you need to survive! :)

    yeah you said that.

    > ------------------------------ > > From: Jon Byrne <> > Subject: Re: ONE DUMBASS AND HIS AUDACITY (SP?) > > > Unfortunately. And they're all selling shit you need to survive! :)

    If I say it again, it's just giving you something to say it to me about... this is too confusing.

    Oh, and yes I know this was a mistake, and yes I know you didn't mean to.

    > From: Jon Byrne <> > Subject: Sorry, I fucked up! > > I appologize for the last message being send thrice. My Email was acting up > a bit and ended up spitting out the damn thing 3 times. > > Might help me get an EOJ, tho ;)

    Ah damnit, now I have to delete that. Ah, screw it. Don't read the part right before this. :)


    > From: (Aaron K Silverman) > Subject: Yngwie & Friends > > For ye who started the 10 favorite guitarists thread:

    Oh, I guess that's in one of the 20 jams before this one that I haven't read. Well, here's mine:

    Dan's 10 favorite guitarists whom you must all bow down to: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    1. John Petrucci 2. Gary Hoey 3. Steve Vai 4. Yngwie Malmsteen 5. Joe Satriani 6. Jim Martin (Faith No More) 7. Steve Morse 8. Carlos Santana 9. Kirk Hammett 10. Marty Friedman 10. Dave Mustaine (tie)


    > From: (Ernesto Schnack) > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1588 > > >No, but I remember Chris Caballero. He was this really cool skateboarding > >d00d back in my wimp-rap (M.C. Hammer) era. > > > > Tony Hawk could ollie really high. > > > Powell Peralta....uh ...Rob Roskopp... lemme think...hmmmm HOSOI!!. > Slimeballs... gullwings...shit I remember we used to pick the bearings by > the country in which they were made... German ones were supposively the best > (well whadda you expect?:) but I found the Singapore ones to be much quiter:) > > Fuck, I was such a poser... I could ollie like an inch off the ground...

    hey man, shut up, I can now ollie about an inch off the ground! :) You don't decide if someone's a poseur based on their skating ability. They're a poseur if they dress like skaters, talk like skaters, claim they can skate, can't, and don't try to learn.

    <GASP!> That is totally NDTC! Oh well, you know the drill, don't read the preceding paragraph. :)

    > > then I discovered the guitar, > > and now my skateboard is rotting in the kitchen:)

    POSEUR! :) Well, no, if you still called yourself a skater, THEN you'd be... Oh never mind. Hmm, maybe one of the Boys skates? That would be cool, then you would all have to apologize for all the flames this message is gonna get. :)

    > > Where's the beef???

    I hope you like it well done. :)

    > Ernie :) > > ------------------------------ > > End of YTSEJAM Digest 1592 > **************************

    Yes! An EOJ about skateboarding. That was cool. huh, huh.

    On another note, yes I know this is a reply to an old jam. So sue me. I now have about 35 in my inbox; I just picked one at random to read and reply to.

    Which brings me to my next (and only?) point: This goes out to everyone I know (Rip, Charone, Augie, D-Man, Skadz, Bafu, et al.) to let you all know that I won't be back on the computer for 2-6 weeks... Till summer in 2 weeks or maybe I can't use it because of summer school, another 4. Anyway, just to let you know. Goodbye for now, my friends. :) How did that bring me to my next point, you ask? Don't.

    Later, -That DMC Guy-


    Daniel McCormack

    "All the dead greenery, sacrificed for you and me I'm the one who cares for them - I'm a Carnatarian" - Chris Merlo (D-Man), Carnatarian, Polio Dog

    "They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist-" - General John Sedgewick, Union Commander in the Civil War, speaking his last words.


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