YTSEJAM Digest 1596
Today's Topics:
1) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 06/01/96 - 06:04:21" <response@ibmmail.com>
2) Kits.
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
3) Rush - Run From The Fans (for sale)
by James Peele <jpeele@osprey.unf.edu>
4) My own little Top 10
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
5) New Metallica Stuff
by "Matthew A. Schnoor" <schnoor@cs.pdx.edu>
6) YtseCon III
by Aladdin <jc309@columbia.edu>
7) mutant gliangithonomony
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
8) Fishsticks Inc.
by "Frank Benenati" <mojonet@pb.net>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1595
by Doug Cronkhite <dougc@cerf.net>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1595
by Michael Van Opstall <vnopstal@cs.hope.edu>
11) Re: New Metallica Stuff
by rquezada@shell.monmouth.com (Robert Quezada)
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1595
by KrazyK1935@aol.com
13) SCRATCHED CD's
by fini@eci1.ucsb.edu (Paul T. Fini)
14) BACH & church + FTP
by "Asi Louzon" <alouzon@main.aquanet.co.il>
15) Heavy Metal Mailing List!!!
by "Asi Louzon" <alouzon@main.aquanet.co.il>
16) 4track portastudios and stuff
by matt rosin <grosin@mailbox.neosoft.com>
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Date: Sat, 01 Jun 1996 01:02:46 EDT
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 06/01/96 - 06:04:21" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
Message-ID: <199606010502.WAA17160@mindcrime.ax.com>
The mail item that you sent at 05:02:38 GMT on 01 Jun 1996 has been delivered.
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 22:15:33 -0700
From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Kits.
Message-ID: <199606010515.WAA26855@maple.enet.net>
>Apt. Q258 (Jeff Sipe) - his drumming is SOOO tight, he boggles
> the mind on a 5-PIECE KIT!
So what? Like was said when Lars' kit was being discussed, size doesn't
matter. I can play virtually everything Portnoy plays on my 5 piece. Nobody
says I'm a god. Well, that doesn't necessarily mean I'm NOT a god...okay,
I'm getting off topic now.
>i just remember thinking Ozzy should have done David Bowie's part :)
>
Heehee....better yet: Marilyn Manson. Well, maybe not...considering how much
he/she scares me, it must not be too good for the little kids. ;-)
> Metropolis pt II What do you guys think that the subtitle will be for
>this song? Any guesses?
Metropolis Pt. II: A Boy and His Dog
>1.) Metallica
>2.) Rush
>3.) Iron Maiden
>4.) Fates Warning
>5.) Megadeth
>
NO!!! SAY IT AIN'T SO, PAW! Oh geez. :-( Skadz? Kill them all. :)
And I listen openly.
Ben Laussade
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 01:28:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: James Peele <jpeele@osprey.unf.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Rush - Run From The Fans (for sale)
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960601012649.24691A-100000@osprey.unf.edu>
The Rush CD - Run From The Fans is 55:45 minutes long, probably recorded
from a radio broadcast on the Roll The Bones tour...
Since I have the double CD Rush 'N' Roulette '92, I really don't need this
one anymore...
Here is the track list:
Force Ten
Limelight
Time Stand Still
Roll The Bones
Freewill
Distant Early Warning
Ghost Of A Chance
Xanadu/Superconductor
Tom Sawyer
It's on the Italian import company KTS and is in perfect shape... I paid
around $27 for it in the store but I'm selling it for $22 (this price
includes postage)...
Let me know if you are interested... Thanks... Jay Peele
jpeele@unf.edu
http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1/inferno.html
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 01:34:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: My own little Top 10
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9606010124.E7863-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
The Top Ten Reasons Not to Post Top Ten Lists to the Jam:
10) It's highly doubtful that your ten favorite guitarists, bands,
albums, toothpastes, or whatever are really all that different from
anyone else's.
9) With 300 people posting this stuff all at once, no one's going to
remember yours anyway, and we would just have to go through all this shit
all over again.
8) Top Ten Lists are blase. There's never a Top 14 list, or a Bunch of
Top Six or Seven. Booo-ring.
7) We have to conserve bandwidth for the Mojo/Mithrandir thing going on.
6) This space intentionally left blank (I couldn't think of 10).
5) There isn't ten of anything in hockey.
4) We've asked politely.
3) Someone will disagree with something in your list, and who knows what
could happen as a result?
2) Not enough mention of Alex Lifeson in the guitarist lists.
1) Skadz said so.
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The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary
cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn
d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed
http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 22:35:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Matthew A. Schnoor" <schnoor@cs.pdx.edu>
To: Ytsejam List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: New Metallica Stuff
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960531222531.10442A-100000@sarin.cs.pdx.edu>
Okay everyone...
I managed to catch some more of the new Metallica from their new album
"Load". What a cool name for an album... wish I'd thought of that
earlier. Now I can walk into a record store and ask "Yeah, I'll take a
'Load' please..." and watch their reactions. :)
But I digress.
Anyway... the song that most of us have heard already (Until it Sleeps)
sounds pretty kick-ass. Athough the drum intro sounds a bit like Alice
In Chains, the whole song gets pretty fuckin rockin.
I was just about convinced that I had to get this album... until I heard
the other song "Mama's Boy" or something like that. People, imagine (if
you will) Metallica sounding like Eric Clapton unplugged. I love Clapton
(esp. Unplugged) but THIS SONG SUCKS! I hope to never hear this song
again in my entire life!
If I wanted to listen to someone whine about their mother, I'd put Danzig
on. And if I wanted to hear someone do that with acoustic guitars and
country-shit steel guitars, I'd listen to Willie Nelson. I can't believe
Metallica, the masters of butt-kickin rock, released a song like THIS.
Enough of my rant. Hope the rest of the album isn't this bad, 'cause I
sure as hell ain't gonna buy it.
Someone's been tossing around ideas for a DT+RUSH tour again. I love
both bands but I just don't see it happening. They're too used to being
good band by themselves... they probably won't team up. Even though DT
likes RUSH a lot, I can't see them playing second fiddle to anyone now.
Maybe 5 years ago they would, but they just aren't an opening act for any
band. Not even RUSH.
All of the above IMHO of course.
See ya,
[ Matthew A. Schnoor ]
[ schnoor@cs.pdx.edu ]
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 01:37:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Aladdin <jc309@columbia.edu>
To: The BafuJam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: YtseCon III
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.93L.960601013029.22186B-100000@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu>
Dear jammers,
Hey, what's up? I'm writing just to remind you that the YtseCon III will
be held on October 12th at the La Guardia Marriot. I've spoken to
management, and they are defintely aware of this convention and things
look really good for us.
Anyways, if you plan on coming and you haven't contacted us about it yet,
please write to Chris Merlo at cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu. Also, please include if
you plan on staying at the Marriot, and if you will be flying into NY. I
will be trying to get airline discounts for those of you who are flying
in.
BTW, due to costs that I forgot to consider, I'll have to bump up the
price of admission to $20 per person. This is the same price as the last
YtseCon, and this wil hopefully pay for all of the expenses that we have
to pay for the YtseCon.
Well, please write if you plan on coming and you're not on Chris's list.
I'll talk to you guys soon!
Yours,
Jeff =)
<*> Jeff Chew <*> jc309@columbia.edu <*> jeffc@dreamt.org <*>
<*> Columbia University <*> (516) 674-4828 <*> Beeper (917) 712-4828 <*>
<*> http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309/ <*>
"Aladdin! You just won the heart of the princess! What are
you gonna do next?" --- Genie, Disney's Aladdin
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Date: Sat, 01 Jun 1996 00:48:23 -0500
From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: mutant gliangithonomony
Message-ID: <31AFD9A7.7CB9@dreamt.org>
hey all, hows your day goin? yep, mine sucks too, but thats no reason
to stop me from posting-
>I need answers before the batteries in my portable run out.
hey, get a new friggin cd player!
>Stop sending me stuff!!
nnnno :P
>Second of all, does anyone want to give me about $15,000 so I can
>get a really f*ckin' huge drumkit?
yeah, i want to, i guess that would kinda rule... but i have no money to
give and if i did i would be selfish and buy a 15,000 guitar.
>Is it true that you can stop CDs from skipping by applying car wax to
>them?
whoa.. i can see that now... i COVER my whole CD in wax and it all
hardens and ruins my cd!! of course it wont skip, it wont even play!
>Metropolis pt II What do you guys think that the subtitle will be for
>this song? Any guesses?
maybe "the mutant cows who hide in your refrigerador at night and then
when you go to sleep eat all of your cheeze, drink your milk, and eat
your hamburgers because they are psycho cannibal cows who are in an evil
plot to destry mankind so they take your carkeys off the table and drive
to california and when they get there they just sit around on the beach
and evenutally they come back just so they can see you all pissed off
and laugh at you then they hide in the fridge again and only these cows
know the secret of wether or not the little light stays on when you
close the door and maybe if you find out you'll ask them and ask them to
tell you the answer beacuse it's been bugging mankind for years and
years but the cows wont tell you they'll just laugh more and thats when
the attack will come." just a thought.
> J U S T S A Y M O O J O !!!!!!!!
M O O J O !!!!!!!!
hey has anyone heard the band TNT? theres this one track the guitarist
does called Sapphire where he does this incredible trem picking i've
never heard anything quite like before. its been killin me all night
listenin to it over and over again, anyone else know who i'm talking
about?
i invented a new spanish verb- vacar = to cow.
nosotros vacamos in mi habatacion todo el noche (/woohoo!)
~Rip
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 02:24:54 -0400
From: "Frank Benenati" <mojonet@pb.net>
To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Fishsticks Inc.
Message-ID: <199606010626.XAA18292@mindcrime.ax.com>
> From: Mithrandir <mithrandir@pb.net>
> Hey Frank if you're such a big Ranger fan, how come you don't have
> M.S.G.? I've probably seen more Ranger games in the past two years than
you
> have. And you call yourself a fan Hah!!!
god hates me...thats what it is.....during the Hockey season....Im
tortured by being forced to watch NY Fishlanders games because my rents
are too cheap to cancel SportsSpamel and get MSG.....so in two
words.....BITE ME!
> Metropolis pt II What do you guys think that the subtitle will be
for
> this song? Any guesses?
"Gandalf and the Masturbator"
:) Thats my guess...
> J U S T S A Y M O O J O !!!!!!!!
Hey...only Rip can talk about me and cows, God damnit!!
J U S T S A Y M O J O....L E T M E H E A R Y O U S A Y M O J O!!!
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 02:01:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Doug Cronkhite <dougc@cerf.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1595
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960601014606.19214B@noc.cerf.net>
Well,
I haven't posted in awhile, so I thought I'd cover everything in one shot.
Top 10 Bands: I'm assuming other than DT since we all know that one..
In no particular ranking:
1) Pantera
2) King's X
3) Iron Maiden (before Bruce left)
4) Fates Warning
5) Shockhead (San Diego Band)
6) 24-7 Spyz (what living color always wanted to be)
7) Queensryche
8) Metallica (it's all good stuff)
9) Testament
10) White Zombie (gotta luv that groove)
As for Metallica not being the band they used to be.. who cares.. Has any
band remained the same over the years.. NO.. I wouldn't want them to be.
A band HAS to evolve and change in order to stay interesting. Has any QR
album sounded just like the previous one.. NO.. Bands that don't change..
. DIE.. and I don't mean changing to fit the flavor of the month.
Ok.. Top 10 guitarists..
1) JP
2) JM (plays more than most "guitarists" do)
3) Ty Tabor
4) Chris DeGarmo (great minimalist lead player)
5) James Hetfield (maybe the best rhythm player around)
6) Shawn Lane
7) Stevie Ray Vaughn
8) Jason Becker
9) Dimebag Darrel
10) Tony MacAlpine (maybe the best technical player there is)
The reason guys like Steve Vai, Frank Aresti, Nuno Bettencourt and other
don't make it onto my list is.. "what have you done lately ???"
I know what you're saying "SRV hasn't done anything".. yeah... well DEAD
doesn't count..
Glad to hear about Metropolis II (October can't come soon enough for me)
Doug Cronkhite
Guitars/Backing VOX - Metropolis (DT inspired band)
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 07:42:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: Michael Van Opstall <vnopstal@cs.hope.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1595
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.90.960601074121.18319A-100000@smaug>
Mojo asked about the subtitle to Met Pt. 2 --
I have an additional question - will the story be similar or some sort of
continuation, or, will the song have an extended frenetic instrumental
section? Or both?
Has anyone heard any of the working music for it?
Michael A. Van Opstall -- vnopstal@cs.hope.edu
http://www.cs.hope.edu/~vnopstal/
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Date: Sat, 01 Jun 1996 13:51:31 GMT
From: rquezada@shell.monmouth.com (Robert Quezada)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: New Metallica Stuff
Message-ID: <31b048c1.1034507@shell.monmouth.com>
On Fri, 31 May 1996 22:40:04 -0700 (PDT), "Matthew A. Schnoor"
<schnoor@cs.pdx.edu> wrote:
>Anyway... the song that most of us have heard already (Until it Sleeps)
>sounds pretty kick-ass. Athough the drum intro sounds a bit like Alice
>In Chains, the whole song gets pretty fuckin rockin.
>
>I was just about convinced that I had to get this album... until I heard
>the other song "Mama's Boy" or something like that. People, imagine (if
>you will) Metallica sounding like Eric Clapton unplugged. I love Clapton
>(esp. Unplugged) but THIS SONG SUCKS! I hope to never hear this song
>again in my entire life!
>
>country-shit steel guitars, I'd listen to Willie Nelson. I can't believe
>Metallica, the masters of butt-kickin rock, released a song like THIS.
>
>Enough of my rant. Hope the rest of the album isn't this bad, 'cause I
>sure as hell ain't gonna buy it.
I was thinking of buying it as well, but I probably won't. They
haven't been the same since Master of Puppets, IMO. That album was,
and still is, my favorite of theirs.
UiS is a good song. At first, I loved it, but it's not like when I
listen to DT (DT- content). I can listen to DT songs over and over
and not get tired of them, but this song kind of grew old after about
the 4th listen for me.
P.S. Check my .sig file about my CD Player. I made up lyric files for
this program for I&W, Awake, ACOS, and a partial one for Live @ the
Marquee.
rq
*********************************************
Visit RQ's Software Page at
http://www.monmouth.com/~rquezada/home.html
CinemaScope TV (NT 3.51+ only, not Win95)
*req. Hauppauge's HighQ or Celebrity TV cards
*View in Standard TV ratio (4:3) or Widescreen (16:9 , 2.35:1)
RQ's CD Player (working title) (for NT/95)
(beta version available 3 June 96)
*Uses lyric files to view lyrics as they're sung.
*Divide songs into indices
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 10:42:40 -0400
From: KrazyK1935@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1595
Message-ID: <960601104235_547086137@emout10.mail.aol.com>
This maybe asked before , but does anyone know what James Labrie is saying at
the end of "Pull Me Under"? I heard it was from Hamlet. but i can't make out
the words. Thank You.
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 08:24:54 -0700
From: fini@eci1.ucsb.edu (Paul T. Fini)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: SCRATCHED CD's
Message-ID: <v01530500add5ad229efc@[128.111.29.63]>
Dave <dduva@freenet.npiec.on.ca> wrote:
>Is it true that you can stop CDs from skipping by applying car wax to them?
>If that's the case, or if you have any other suggestions, please email me.
>Don't post to the jam (well I guess I can't stop you if you really want
>to...) 'cause I'm usually too busy to keep up, and I might not see your
>message.
I'm not sure about that Dave... in fact, I'm unsure about a lot of remedies
that might be possible to save a scratched CD. I've tried buffing out
scratches with toothpaste, but depending on the brand, this has limited
effectiveness (you're introducing tons of tiny scratches in an effort to wash
out the big one). I've even tried fine diamond paste (usually used to polish
hard samples for microscopy), which didn't have any effect. Maybe my angle
on this is all wrong.
Have any of you 'jammers had success with that most troublesome of troubles --
one of your favorite discs is scratched, but you've somehow miraculously
repaired it? I'd love to read your suggestions (maybe CD god Mike Bahr can
give us a few insights)... e-mail me directly, and if I get enough responses,
I'll compile and re-post to to the 'jam.
Thanks for you time and advice!
paul
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Paul T. Fini U.C. Santa Barbara
fini@engineering.ucsb.edu Materials Dept.
(805) 893-8869 Electronic Materials
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Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 20:04:38 +0000
From: "Asi Louzon" <alouzon@main.aquanet.co.il>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: BACH & church + FTP
Message-ID: <199606010839.TAA18737@main.aquanet.co.il>
Hi.
I really think that all those classicals were influenced by the
church.
BTW:!!! Where can I get some classic sound files?
10x,
Asi Louzon
alouzon@main.aquanet.co.il
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Asi Louzon
alouzon@main.aquanet.co.il
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Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 20:04:38 +0000
From: "Asi Louzon" <alouzon@main.aquanet.co.il>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Heavy Metal Mailing List!!!
Message-ID: <199606010839.TAA18743@main.aquanet.co.il>
send subscription to:
in the BODY or SUBJECT put:
subscribe Heavy Metal List "your@email.address
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Date: Sat, 01 Jun 1996 12:20:31 -0500
From: matt rosin <grosin@mailbox.neosoft.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: 4track portastudios and stuff
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960601172031.006ac344@mailbox.neosoft.com>
to the guy who was asking about what 4track portastudio is best
for the buck with bouncing capability: definitely the
tascam 424mxII. one word about bouncing, though: on analog
portastudios, that adds a LOT of noise to your mix, even if you
minimize it the best you can. of course, that doesn't matter
if you are just trying to get basic ideas on tape.
>Here I go with the Top 10 Favorite Guitarists. No particular rankings/order.
AAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!
>2. Top 10 guitarists - if you don't like it, fuck you -
>if you've got something better to talk about while we're
>in the off-season, then talk about it. If
>you don't like them, then it is my pleasure to introduce you
>to the "return" key - a marvelous device that takes you past
>the things you wish to skip.
AAAAAAAAGGGHHHH!!!!!!! ;) and don't forget that ever-so-useful
RIGHT ARROW KEY in the event that you have to expend the effort to
scroll the page to the right! ;) and no, you can't fuck me.
>Stop sending me stuff!!
people unclear on the concept?.... well, do something about it! ;)
gosh, we have to do EVERYTHING around hear!
ok, sarcasm mode OFF.
later,
matt.
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m a t t r o s i n
S U R R E A L I T Y
dark ethereal music
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grosin@mailbox.neosoft.com
http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~msr7146/imagescape/
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