YTSEJAM Digest 1598
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1595
by skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook)
2) USED CD's, Re: JAM # 1597
by "Matthew A. Schnoor" <schnoor@cs.pdx.edu>
3) New Metallica Songs... oh god.
by "Matthew A. Schnoor" <schnoor@cs.pdx.edu>
4) Ideas for Metropolis part II:
by "Matthew A. Schnoor" <schnoor@cs.pdx.edu>
5) 90210/metallica/Derek Sherinian...
by ytsejammer <belhai@drew.edu>
6) TNT
by jskewes@why.net (jskewes)
7) TNT/Ronni LeTekro/RIP
by buster <buster@ee.net>
8) Queensryche
by jestok@interlog.com (Mike Estok)
9) Yngwie Malmsteen/Yngve Malmsten
by Magnus Andreasson <magnusa@tripnet.se>
10) more on the cd repair crap
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
11) portastudios, my shiny white teeth.
by matt rosin <grosin@mailbox.neosoft.com>
12) My Top 10
by Daniel Del Vecchio <cai@argenet.com.ar>
13) Rush - Run From The Fans bootleg is FLAWED!!
by Kent Willshire <Cygnus.X-1@worldnet.att.net>
14) Fwd: Dave reviews Load
by skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook)
15) infos
by DOMTOM@aol.com
16) Scarred.
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 01:55:25 -0700
From: skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1595
Message-ID: <199606020855.BAA13506@dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com>
From: mccorkindact@alpha.hendrix.edu
Subject: "Once upon a time, and a very good time it was..."
>>Okay get those flamethrowers ready:
OK
2.Top 10 guitarists - if you don't like it, fuck you -
[snip]
If you don't like them, then it is my pleasure to introduce you to the
"return" key -
Yeah, and maybe Skadz can inroduce you to the "Kicked" key!
[snip again]
Please feel free to flame me at my address, rather than taking up space
on the Jam with bad vibes.
Colter McCorkindale
Pretty interesting Colter, you start out with Fuck you if you don't
like top ten lists to Don't take up space on the jam with bad vibes.
Does the word "Hypocrit" ring a bell?
Scott Cook
When I grow up I want to be
One of the harvesters of the sea
My nights are short, my days are long
I want to be a Fisherman.
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 02:17:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Matthew A. Schnoor" <schnoor@cs.pdx.edu>
To: Ytsejam List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: USED CD's, Re: JAM # 1597
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960602020516.18984A-100000@sarin.cs.pdx.edu>
In JAM #1597, Paul Goracke (pgor@netcom.com) wrote:
>If the disc is mostly playable, give it (or sell it cheaply) to someone
>who's not a fan, yet. Swap the jewel box with the most beat up one in your
>collection first (what do they have to complain about at that price?). If
>they don't like it, oh well, have them pass it on. If they do like it,
>they'll eventually have to buy a fresh disc, since the scratches that drove
>you nuts will do the same to them. And the cycle continues.
Sound like the old wife-swapping game that hippies used to play way back
when.
>This can help the bands that most of us like--bands that are great, but
>spread by word of mouth, not airplay, and whose cd's are not readily found
>on the shelves of (blecch) Musicland. It's recycling, with a better
>potential to expand the band's fans than letting it sit in a used cd shop.
>Besides, they're not going to buy the scratched disc in the first place.
Yeah, I was beginning to wonder exactly what tar pit you had dropped that
case in. :) That's probably the worst CD case I've ever had. Oh
well... I'll just put it on a CD I'm planning on selling back anyway.
BTW, the scratched CD plays perfectly. Just thought I'd let ya know.
>I think I just made a new echolyn fan with this method.
You sure did. Thanks bud. :) Don't they have another CD out or something?
Oh... since this topic is up, does anyone want Mike Watt's CD "Ball-Hog or
Tugboat"? I'll be willing to part with it REALLY CHEAP. That, and Seven
Mary Three's "American Standard" and Phil Collins' "BOTH SIDES" will be
going back to Wherehouse unles somebody claims them here. I'd be willing
to let them go for $5 each, shipping included.
I'll even through in Paul's god-awful old case too. No charge. :)
And now for some DTC. Does anyone know if Mr. Myung has been featured in
any bass guitar magazines (like Bass Plauer) or won any awards for his
obvious talent with the bass?
One more dumb question... who can get me a copy of Superior: BEHIND?
I've heard nothing but good things about it.
Thanks all and Paul,
[ Matthew A. Schnoor ] [Bolo@ytsejam@irc.dreamt.org:2112]
[ schnoor@cs.pdx.edu ] [http://www.cs.pdx.edu/~schnoor/index.html]
"Daybreak, at the bottom of a lake..." - Dream Theater, "Lie"
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 02:18:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Matthew A. Schnoor" <schnoor@cs.pdx.edu>
To: Ytsejam List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: New Metallica Songs... oh god.
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960602021733.18984B-100000@sarin.cs.pdx.edu>
I'm gonna correct myself: I said "Momma's Boy" but the new song is
actually titled "Mama Said".
But it still sucks bloated donkey cock.
See ya,
[ Matthew A. Schnoor ] [Bolo@ytsejam@irc.dreamt.org:2112]
[ schnoor@cs.pdx.edu ] [http://www.cs.pdx.edu/~schnoor/index.html]
"Daybreak, at the bottom of a lake..." - Dream Theater, "Lie"
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 02:25:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Matthew A. Schnoor" <schnoor@cs.pdx.edu>
To: Ytsejam List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Ideas for Metropolis part II:
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960602022033.18984C-100000@sarin.cs.pdx.edu>
Ytse-Ben suggested:
> A Boy and his Dog
Great, Ben! I gotta clean up the puddle o' piss by my desk now. :)
How about:
* Tintin in the Land of the Pharaohs
* The Slum and the Bum
* Clouds over a Sunless Sky
* The Glory of the Printed Page
* The Bravery of Being Out of Range (R. Waters song...)
* Sleepless in Seattle
Oh well.
[ Matthew A. Schnoor ] [Bolo@ytsejam@irc.dreamt.org:2112]
[ schnoor@cs.pdx.edu ] [http://www.cs.pdx.edu/~schnoor/index.html]
"I'll make you more than me..." - echolyn
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Date: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 02:55:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: ytsejammer <belhai@drew.edu>
To: YTSAYYY JAM!!! <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: 90210/metallica/Derek Sherinian...
Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.960602024922.555820294K-100000@drew.edu>
Yo folks-
I saw the video of "until it sleeps" earlier tonight and man, I really
think that James Hetfield looks like Steve Sanders (Ian Zierning) from
Beverly Hills 90210. And I know everyone on this list watches 90210
because "innocence faded" is used as the theme song. :)
Seriously though, here's my question:
Since Derek joined the band after AWAKE, does he get any of the money
from sales of AWAKE from people who are currently buying the album. Or
will he get only profits from the ACOS EP and everything after?
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Date: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 09:22:37 -0500
From: jskewes@why.net (jskewes)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: TNT
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960602142237.00675c48@why.net>
$0.02 on TNT.
If you are into guitar at ALL - do yourself a favor and check out TNT. Le
Tekro definately has a style all his own.
Tory Harnell has a great voice too. I used to really dig them. I have all
their albums on CD iif anyone is unable to find them. (it's getting harder
and harder) I also have a few live tapes of them. You can find 'em on my
bootleg list at:
http://www.why.net/users/jskewes/jsmusic.html
Ronnie Le Tekro has a new band called Vagabond - you can get their album via
import from a lot of different places.
Later.
Jason
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Date: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 12:27:29 -0400
From: buster <buster@ee.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: TNT/Ronni LeTekro/RIP
Message-ID: <31B1C0F1.1B14@ee.net>
"
hey has anyone heard the band TNT? theres this one track the guitarist
does called Sapphire where he does this incredible trem picking i've
never heard anything quite like before. its been killin me all night
listenin to it over and over again, anyone else know who i'm talking
about?
~Rip
"
HEY RIP -
His name is RONNI LETEKRO, and yes, he is underrated and quite amazing. I first heard
him back in like 1986 or so, when I bought the album "TNT - Knights of the New Thunder".
I know the name sounds corny, but they were great. LeTekro is an INCREDIBLE guitar
player (you guys can trust me on that, since John Petrucci is the best IMO) and he
inspired my early guitar playing technique. Rip: I play with a technique like his, fast
muted notes with a crisp "chug" sound to them. If you can find "Knights of the New
Thunder" and you love hearing amazing guitar solos, buy it!! They are originally from
Norway or Sweden...I can't exactly remember. The album you heard "Sapphire" off of is
not half as heavy as "Knights". They went commercial right away on the second
album....big surprise eh??
Glad you've heard them! I thought I was the only one!
Dave Hatlee
buster@ee.net
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Date: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 12:24:38 -0400
From: jestok@interlog.com (Mike Estok)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Queensryche
Message-ID: <199606021623.MAA06647@gold.interlog.com>
Hi, I've heard the new album info for Rush and DT on here now. But
what about the new Queensryche? Have they started recording it yet? I
haven't heard a word about it yet. Does anyone know the release date or
song titles?
Go AVALANCHE!!! I've been a fan since the beginning. I'm not a
bandwagon-jumper. I was with them from the beginning!!!!!! (If anyone
wants a good laugh, read the Point After article in this month's Sports
Illustrated)
Michelob
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 18:31:44 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Magnus Andreasson <magnusa@tripnet.se>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Yngwie Malmsteen/Yngve Malmsten
Message-ID: <199606021631.SAA14038@mail.tripnet.se>
>From: Martin Saleteg <martin.saleteg@mbox200.swipnet.se>
>Subject: Top ten guitarists
>
>I can tell by your(CNG@tcco.com) list that you definately are a shredder
>of the worst kind! Why the hell do you put Yngve Malmsten (yes, that's
>his real name) on the top of your list??!! Are you kidding me? "Yngwie"
>is one BIG swedish (yes, I hate to say it!) joke. We are ashamed of this
>guy here in Sweden.
I must say that it is not often that I get upset, but the above statement
is one of the most appaling things I've ever read. This is a horrifying
example of the well known swedish jealousy. The minute someone starts to
make more money than the average guy one the street, he is looked upon
with jealousy and despite.
I'm proud to say that I was born in the same country as Yngwie.
I think he sets an excellent example as he pursued his dream, worked
hard and finally established himself as one of the greatest of all time.
I write this just to say that,IMHO, Martin Saleteg does in no way represent
a majority of swedish rockfans, although he claims just that.
Greetings
Magnus Andreasson, Sweden
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Date: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 11:44:56 -0500
From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: more on the cd repair crap
Message-ID: <31B1C508.568C@dreamt.org>
>A few companies make CD repair kits. They usually consist of some
>liquid goop and some method to apply them, such as cotton swabs or
>little polishing cloths. If you look hard enough, you can find them at
>various stores that sell CDs.
just reminded me actually, the drummer for my old "band" (i use band in
this case VERY LOOSELY:) had this thing that looked liek a portable cd
player, but you put a cd in and it spun it really fast and cleaned it.
I've seen em around too, and they probably dont cost too much money.
hey is that koolaid on the cover of the new metallica album?
~Rip
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Date: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 13:50:15 -0500
From: matt rosin <grosin@mailbox.neosoft.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: portastudios, my shiny white teeth.
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960602185015.006a9eac@mailbox.neosoft.com>
>>to the guy who was asking about what 4track portastudio is best
>>for the buck with bouncing capability: definitely the
>>tascam 424mxII. one word about bouncing, though: on analog
>
>is this the model that also has sweepable mids and two fx sends/returns?
>if so, i highly recommend it. and don't quote me on this, but think it may
>be the 424mkII.
oops... yeah, noticed that after i sent it. yes, it's the 424mkII,
and yes it's the one with sweepable midrange and 2 fx send/returns.
it rocks. check it out.
>>grosin@mailbox.neosoft.com
>>http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~msr7146/imagescape/
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>
>damn you. how many of these have you got this week? :)
i've lost count...;) bafu, eat your heart out.
> Hey Kids!!!!!
hey!!!!!
>Not to mention that you can brush your teeth with more of a choice of
>cleaning materials
are you saying i should stop brushing with clorox. i mean, it
keeps your teeth white....;)
oh well, at least i'll have a shiny smile. (winks and grins as
light flashes off of his incisors.)
later,
matt.
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m a t t r o s i n
S U R R E A L I T Y
dark ethereal music
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grosin@mailbox.neosoft.com
http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~msr7146/imagescape/
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 16:36:52 -0600
From: Daniel Del Vecchio <cai@argenet.com.ar>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: My Top 10
Message-ID: <199606022236.QAA09766@argenet.com.ar>
My top 10 guitarists:
1. Steve Vai
2. Joe Satriani
3. Al Di Meola
4. Vito Bratta
5. Kee Marcello
6. Gary Moore
7. John Petrucci
8. Yngwie Malmsteen
9. Reb Beach
10. Paul Gilbert
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 20:41:18 GMT
From: Kent Willshire <Cygnus.X-1@worldnet.att.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Rush - Run From The Fans bootleg is FLAWED!!
Message-ID: <199606022041.UAA01085@mailhost.worldnet.att.net>
>Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 01:28:46 -0400 (EDT)
>From: James Peele <jpeele@osprey.unf.edu>
>To: ytsejam@ax.com
>Subject: Rush - Run From The Fans (for sale)
>Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960601012649.24691A-100000@osprey.unf.edu>
>
>
>The Rush CD - Run From The Fans is 55:45 minutes long, probably recorded
>from a radio broadcast on the Roll The Bones tour...
>Since I have the double CD Rush 'N' Roulette '92, I really don't need this
>one anymore...
>It's on the Italian import company KTS and is in perfect shape... I paid
>around $27 for it in the store but I'm selling it for $22 (this price
>includes postage)...
>
>Let me know if you are interested... Thanks... Jay Peele
>
>jpeele@unf.edu
>http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1/inferno.html
What Mr. Peele didn't mention is that this CD sounds AWFUL!! When the tape
was transferred to CD, I assume the tape was playing too slow, hence the
songs are slow and lower soundung. Imagine hearing Geddy with a LOW voice! I
sampled a small piece of Limelight and tried playing it back at different
speeds. The Cd is about 300-600 hertz slow. There are MUCH better boots out
there.
Sorry JP, nothing personal, but you are trying to sell flawed merchandice.
(I don't know if you had realized the speed problem.)
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 13:45:53 -0700
From: skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Fwd: Dave reviews Load
Message-ID: <199606022045.NAA23956@dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com>
Hey all!
I friend of mine got an advanced copy of LOAD and I thought some of
ya's might be interested in reading it. He's not the type of person
that thinks that Metallica is great no matter what, so it makes for
what I believe to be a honest review.
Scott Cook
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Subject: Dave reviews Load
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Through a wel-placed friend, I managed to get a copy of the Load CD on
May 31, and, after listening to it all weekend, I will post my review -
a splendid time is guaranteed for all, maybe.
I had a lot of reservations about this album, I was frankly worried
that I'd be calling it Load of Shit after one listen, but I'm not. I
only have two problems with this album.
1. The logo on the cover looks like shit. Bring back the old, cooler
Metallica logo, and dump the sissy-font one on the cover and the stupid
star logo. The cover would have looked much cooler with a Master of
Puppets style Metallica logo on it.
2. Metallica is about as far away from writing something like the
aforementioned album as they could ever get. It shouldn't be surprising
because nothng on the last album had the speed and intensity of much of
the stuff on the first four, but there are only two fast songs on this
one. Maybe the next album, or the Megadeth album will have some faster
stuff, anyways, here's the review, track by track.
AIN'T MY BITCH One of the two fast songs, catchy, but heavy, has a
slide guitar solo. Would make a good opener live. One of the best on
the album. James discovered how to use vocal melody on this album (The
guitars were always melodic despite being heavy, but the vocals on this
album are the biggest difference, plus he SINGS, rather than yell on
key.)
2x4 Better than Donnington as it is a bit slower and heavier, though I
like the Donnington version and didn't think the radio roadcast sounded
all that bad as some people have. Pretty much identical to it
otherwise.
THE HOUSE JACK BUILT heavy riff, sounds like Devil dance in some
points (probably why that isn't on this album), but not as good.
Doesn't really do anything for me.
UNTIL IT SLEEPS Black Diamond (Live) meets Angry again, nuff said,
good song.
KING NOTHING Cool song. Feedback intro (an E-Bow perhaps?) melodic
vocals, yet heavy guitar. radio around here is picking up on this one,
one of the better songs.
HERO OF THE DAY The "pop" song on the album. There's a 70s song with
lyrics something like "Down on me, down on my love" (Somebody has to
know this, and who did it, I can't remember who, or how the rest goes)
,but you can sing that over the melody lines of this. Seems the most
accessible until a faster heavier part kicks in with some almost
Beatlesque harmonies over the top of it. One of the most radically
different things they've done, but I like it.
BLEEDING ME I instantly thought of Jimi Hendrix when I heard the
intro. Takes a while to build, but is worth the wait. An 8 Minute song,
it is one of the best things they've ever written and features some
good lead playing by Mr. Hammett. I hope they do it live.
CURE Wasn't crazy about this at first, but I like it now. Spoken word
intro, then Danzig-esque vocals over a pretty cool groove.
POOR TWISTED ME Metallica plays the blues. By far the blusiest thing
they've ever writen. James even sings in a blues style, repaeting the
verses. Slide giutar here too. heavy song, but slow.
WASTING MY HATE Is that Jason on vox on the first line of the song?
very cool, the fastest thing on the album, sticks in your head. They
should release THIS as a single. Cool riff.
MAMA SAID And you wonder why James wanted Waylon Jennings on
Lollapaloosa? Metallica goes country with accoustic guitars and pedal
steel guitar right out of an old Zeppelin record or Sticky Fingers by
the Stones. I actually heard this on ZROCK, though it was probably
because they were doing 33 hours straight of Metallica. This might
actually appeal to all the 15 year old girls who bought the last album
because of nothing else matters ad consider themselves diehard fans
when they don't own or like anything else by the band.
THORN WITHIN Well, it's not country. heavy crunchy itro, with a doom
and gloom riff. sabbath meets Zeppelin, meets Metallica. melodic
verses, yet still heavy. I like it.
RONNIE Bluesy intro, sounds like ZZ Top meets the Cult's Sweet Soul
Sister. Cool song, still kind of heavy. Has a spoken word hee-haw part.
OUTLAW TORN Fades in, chunky guitar with cool effects, an epic 10
minute song, reminds me a bit of To Live is To Die. More Metallica
songs should be this long.
And there you have it, all 78:59 of it. The record probably could have
been a little better with about 12 songs, but give them credit for
having the balls to experiment. Will the masses like it? Probably.
Will people who didn't like the last album like it? probably not. I
think it's better and more diverse than the last record whose songs are
so tired I don't care if I ever hear any of them again. The five year
wait is over and Metallica have delivered the goods.
************************************************************************
"I don't tune, I just shake my head."
Paul Stanley, MTV studios 8/9/95
************************************************************************
Dave Jablinsky...Original member of the three piece set
drjablin@vela.acs.oakland.edu
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 17:32:05 -0400
From: DOMTOM@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: infos
Message-ID: <960602173203_126162698@emout07.mail.aol.com>
Date of the next album
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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 14:59:26 -0700
From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Scarred.
Message-ID: <199606022159.OAA27580@maple.enet.net>
>Ben, I think that the problem with Scarred is not the bell, but the
>snare and Bass drum pattern, he's playing on the "and" of the note, not the
>actual quarter note.
Ah...so the bell is on the beat and the snare/kick are off? Coolio. I
haven't really payed attention to the snare and kick....that bell just rings
my head and I can't think of anything else. Tanks.
>Anyone know what kind of Ride Cymbal Mike used to record I&W? I have
>the same one, and it is awesome. Any guesses guys?
A round one.
>Hey, I'm sorry! I forgot to change the "to" address before sending it.
>We all make mistakes...
James: From now on, never take anything I say seriously unless further
notice is given.
>6. Slash (so shoot me, he's damn good)
?! I'M better than Slash! And, yes..I WILL shoot you.
And I listen openly.
Ben Laussade
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