YTSEJAM digest 1598

Date: Sun Jun 02 1996 - 18:09:48 EDT

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1595
     by (Scott Cook)
      2) USED CD's, Re: JAM # 1597
     by "Matthew A. Schnoor" <>
      3) New Metallica Songs... oh god.
     by "Matthew A. Schnoor" <>
      4) Ideas for Metropolis part II:
     by "Matthew A. Schnoor" <>
      5) 90210/metallica/Derek Sherinian...
     by ytsejammer <>
      6) TNT
     by (jskewes)
      7) TNT/Ronni LeTekro/RIP
     by buster <>
      8) Queensryche
     by (Mike Estok)
      9) Yngwie Malmsteen/Yngve Malmsten
     by Magnus Andreasson <>
     10) more on the cd repair crap
     by RipZero <>
     11) portastudios, my shiny white teeth.
     by matt rosin <>
     12) My Top 10
     by Daniel Del Vecchio <>
     13) Rush - Run From The Fans bootleg is FLAWED!!
     by Kent Willshire <>
     14) Fwd: Dave reviews Load
     by (Scott Cook)
     15) infos
     16) Scarred.
     by Ben Laussade <>


    Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 01:55:25 -0700
    From: (Scott Cook)
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1595
    Message-ID: <>

    Subject: "Once upon a time, and a very good time it was..."

    >>Okay get those flamethrowers ready:


    2.Top 10 guitarists - if you don't like it, fuck you -


    If you don't like them, then it is my pleasure to introduce you to the
    "return" key -

    Yeah, and maybe Skadz can inroduce you to the "Kicked" key!

    [snip again]

    Please feel free to flame me at my address, rather than taking up space
    on the Jam with bad vibes.

    Colter McCorkindale

    Pretty interesting Colter, you start out with Fuck you if you don't
    like top ten lists to Don't take up space on the jam with bad vibes.
    Does the word "Hypocrit" ring a bell?

    Scott Cook

    When I grow up I want to be
    One of the harvesters of the sea
    My nights are short, my days are long
    I want to be a Fisherman.


    Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 02:17:14 -0700 (PDT)
    From: "Matthew A. Schnoor" <>
    To: Ytsejam List <>
    Subject: USED CD's, Re: JAM # 1597
    Message-ID: <>

    In JAM #1597, Paul Goracke ( wrote:
    >If the disc is mostly playable, give it (or sell it cheaply) to someone
    >who's not a fan, yet. Swap the jewel box with the most beat up one in your
    >collection first (what do they have to complain about at that price?). If
    >they don't like it, oh well, have them pass it on. If they do like it,
    >they'll eventually have to buy a fresh disc, since the scratches that drove
    >you nuts will do the same to them. And the cycle continues.

    Sound like the old wife-swapping game that hippies used to play way back

    >This can help the bands that most of us like--bands that are great, but
    >spread by word of mouth, not airplay, and whose cd's are not readily found
    >on the shelves of (blecch) Musicland. It's recycling, with a better
    >potential to expand the band's fans than letting it sit in a used cd shop.
    >Besides, they're not going to buy the scratched disc in the first place.

    Yeah, I was beginning to wonder exactly what tar pit you had dropped that
    case in. :) That's probably the worst CD case I've ever had. Oh
    well... I'll just put it on a CD I'm planning on selling back anyway.

    BTW, the scratched CD plays perfectly. Just thought I'd let ya know.

    >I think I just made a new echolyn fan with this method.

    You sure did. Thanks bud. :) Don't they have another CD out or something?

    Oh... since this topic is up, does anyone want Mike Watt's CD "Ball-Hog or
    Tugboat"? I'll be willing to part with it REALLY CHEAP. That, and Seven
    Mary Three's "American Standard" and Phil Collins' "BOTH SIDES" will be
    going back to Wherehouse unles somebody claims them here. I'd be willing
    to let them go for $5 each, shipping included.

    I'll even through in Paul's god-awful old case too. No charge. :)

    And now for some DTC. Does anyone know if Mr. Myung has been featured in
    any bass guitar magazines (like Bass Plauer) or won any awards for his
    obvious talent with the bass?

    One more dumb question... who can get me a copy of Superior: BEHIND?
    I've heard nothing but good things about it.

    Thanks all and Paul,

    [ Matthew A. Schnoor ] []
    [ ] []
      "Daybreak, at the bottom of a lake..." - Dream Theater, "Lie"


    Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 02:18:52 -0700 (PDT)
    From: "Matthew A. Schnoor" <>
    To: Ytsejam List <>
    Subject: New Metallica Songs... oh god.
    Message-ID: <>

    I'm gonna correct myself: I said "Momma's Boy" but the new song is
    actually titled "Mama Said".

    But it still sucks bloated donkey cock.

    See ya,

    [ Matthew A. Schnoor ] []
    [ ] []
      "Daybreak, at the bottom of a lake..." - Dream Theater, "Lie"


    Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 02:25:51 -0700 (PDT)
    From: "Matthew A. Schnoor" <>
    To: Ytsejam List <>
    Subject: Ideas for Metropolis part II:
    Message-ID: <>

    Ytse-Ben suggested:
    > A Boy and his Dog

    Great, Ben! I gotta clean up the puddle o' piss by my desk now. :)

    How about:

    * Tintin in the Land of the Pharaohs
    * The Slum and the Bum
    * Clouds over a Sunless Sky
    * The Glory of the Printed Page
    * The Bravery of Being Out of Range (R. Waters song...)
    * Sleepless in Seattle

    Oh well.

    [ Matthew A. Schnoor ] []
    [ ] []
      "I'll make you more than me..." - echolyn


    Date: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 02:55:47 -0400 (EDT)
    From: ytsejammer <>
    To: YTSAYYY JAM!!! <>
    Subject: 90210/metallica/Derek Sherinian...
    Message-ID: <>

    Yo folks-

    I saw the video of "until it sleeps" earlier tonight and man, I really
    think that James Hetfield looks like Steve Sanders (Ian Zierning) from
    Beverly Hills 90210. And I know everyone on this list watches 90210
    because "innocence faded" is used as the theme song. :)

    Seriously though, here's my question:

    Since Derek joined the band after AWAKE, does he get any of the money
    from sales of AWAKE from people who are currently buying the album. Or
    will he get only profits from the ACOS EP and everything after?


    Date: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 09:22:37 -0500
    From: (jskewes)
    Subject: TNT
    Message-ID: <>

    $0.02 on TNT.

    If you are into guitar at ALL - do yourself a favor and check out TNT. Le
    Tekro definately has a style all his own.

    Tory Harnell has a great voice too. I used to really dig them. I have all
    their albums on CD iif anyone is unable to find them. (it's getting harder
    and harder) I also have a few live tapes of them. You can find 'em on my
    bootleg list at:

    Ronnie Le Tekro has a new band called Vagabond - you can get their album via
    import from a lot of different places.



    Date: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 12:27:29 -0400
    From: buster <>
    Subject: TNT/Ronni LeTekro/RIP
    Message-ID: <>

    hey has anyone heard the band TNT? theres this one track the guitarist
    does called Sapphire where he does this incredible trem picking i've
    never heard anything quite like before. its been killin me all night
    listenin to it over and over again, anyone else know who i'm talking

    HEY RIP -

    His name is RONNI LETEKRO, and yes, he is underrated and quite amazing. I first heard
    him back in like 1986 or so, when I bought the album "TNT - Knights of the New Thunder".
    I know the name sounds corny, but they were great. LeTekro is an INCREDIBLE guitar
    player (you guys can trust me on that, since John Petrucci is the best IMO) and he
    inspired my early guitar playing technique. Rip: I play with a technique like his, fast
    muted notes with a crisp "chug" sound to them. If you can find "Knights of the New
    Thunder" and you love hearing amazing guitar solos, buy it!! They are originally from
    Norway or Sweden...I can't exactly remember. The album you heard "Sapphire" off of is
    not half as heavy as "Knights". They went commercial right away on the second
    album....big surprise eh??

    Glad you've heard them! I thought I was the only one!

    Dave Hatlee


    Date: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 12:24:38 -0400
    From: (Mike Estok)
    Subject: Queensryche
    Message-ID: <>

            Hi, I've heard the new album info for Rush and DT on here now. But
    what about the new Queensryche? Have they started recording it yet? I
    haven't heard a word about it yet. Does anyone know the release date or
    song titles?

            Go AVALANCHE!!! I've been a fan since the beginning. I'm not a
    bandwagon-jumper. I was with them from the beginning!!!!!! (If anyone
    wants a good laugh, read the Point After article in this month's Sports



    Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 18:31:44 +0200 (MET DST)
    From: Magnus Andreasson <>
    Subject: Yngwie Malmsteen/Yngve Malmsten
    Message-ID: <>

    >From: Martin Saleteg <>
    >Subject: Top ten guitarists
    >I can tell by your( list that you definately are a shredder
    >of the worst kind! Why the hell do you put Yngve Malmsten (yes, that's
    >his real name) on the top of your list??!! Are you kidding me? "Yngwie"
    >is one BIG swedish (yes, I hate to say it!) joke. We are ashamed of this
    >guy here in Sweden.

    I must say that it is not often that I get upset, but the above statement
    is one of the most appaling things I've ever read. This is a horrifying
    example of the well known swedish jealousy. The minute someone starts to
    make more money than the average guy one the street, he is looked upon
    with jealousy and despite.

    I'm proud to say that I was born in the same country as Yngwie.
    I think he sets an excellent example as he pursued his dream, worked
    hard and finally established himself as one of the greatest of all time.

    I write this just to say that,IMHO, Martin Saleteg does in no way represent
    a majority of swedish rockfans, although he claims just that.


    Magnus Andreasson, Sweden


    Date: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 11:44:56 -0500
    From: RipZero <>
    To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <>
    Subject: more on the cd repair crap
    Message-ID: <>

    >A few companies make CD repair kits. They usually consist of some
    >liquid goop and some method to apply them, such as cotton swabs or
    >little polishing cloths. If you look hard enough, you can find them at
    >various stores that sell CDs.

    just reminded me actually, the drummer for my old "band" (i use band in
    this case VERY LOOSELY:) had this thing that looked liek a portable cd
    player, but you put a cd in and it spun it really fast and cleaned it.
    I've seen em around too, and they probably dont cost too much money.

    hey is that koolaid on the cover of the new metallica album?


    Date: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 13:50:15 -0500
    From: matt rosin <>
    Subject: portastudios, my shiny white teeth.
    Message-ID: <>

    >>to the guy who was asking about what 4track portastudio is best
    >>for the buck with bouncing capability: definitely the
    >>tascam 424mxII. one word about bouncing, though: on analog
    >is this the model that also has sweepable mids and two fx sends/returns?
    >if so, i highly recommend it. and don't quote me on this, but think it may
    >be the 424mkII.

    oops... yeah, noticed that after i sent it. yes, it's the 424mkII,
    and yes it's the one with sweepable midrange and 2 fx send/returns.
    it rocks. check it out.

    >>End of YTSEJAM Digest 1596
    >damn you. how many of these have you got this week? :)

    i've lost count...;) bafu, eat your heart out.

    > Hey Kids!!!!!


    >Not to mention that you can brush your teeth with more of a choice of
    >cleaning materials

    are you saying i should stop brushing with clorox. i mean, it
    keeps your teeth white....;)
    oh well, at least i'll have a shiny smile. (winks and grins as
    light flashes off of his incisors.)

    m a t t r o s i n
    S U R R E A L I T Y
    dark ethereal music


    Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 16:36:52 -0600
    From: Daniel Del Vecchio <>
    Subject: My Top 10
    Message-ID: <>

    My top 10 guitarists:

                            1. Steve Vai
                            2. Joe Satriani
                            3. Al Di Meola
                            4. Vito Bratta
                            5. Kee Marcello
                            6. Gary Moore
                            7. John Petrucci
                            8. Yngwie Malmsteen
                            9. Reb Beach
                           10. Paul Gilbert


    Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 20:41:18 GMT
    From: Kent Willshire <>
    Subject: Rush - Run From The Fans bootleg is FLAWED!!
    Message-ID: <>

    >Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 01:28:46 -0400 (EDT)
    >From: James Peele <>
    >Subject: Rush - Run From The Fans (for sale)
    >Message-ID: <>
    >The Rush CD - Run From The Fans is 55:45 minutes long, probably recorded
    >from a radio broadcast on the Roll The Bones tour...
    >Since I have the double CD Rush 'N' Roulette '92, I really don't need this
    >one anymore...
    >It's on the Italian import company KTS and is in perfect shape... I paid
    >around $27 for it in the store but I'm selling it for $22 (this price
    >includes postage)...
    >Let me know if you are interested... Thanks... Jay Peele

    What Mr. Peele didn't mention is that this CD sounds AWFUL!! When the tape
    was transferred to CD, I assume the tape was playing too slow, hence the
    songs are slow and lower soundung. Imagine hearing Geddy with a LOW voice! I
    sampled a small piece of Limelight and tried playing it back at different
    speeds. The Cd is about 300-600 hertz slow. There are MUCH better boots out

    Sorry JP, nothing personal, but you are trying to sell flawed merchandice.
    (I don't know if you had realized the speed problem.)

    | |
    | |
    | -"My brothers and sisters all hated me, 'cause I was an only child."
    | -"Weird Al" Yankovic |
    | |


    Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 13:45:53 -0700
    From: (Scott Cook)
    Subject: Fwd: Dave reviews Load
    Message-ID: <>

    Hey all!

    I friend of mine got an advanced copy of LOAD and I thought some of
    ya's might be interested in reading it. He's not the type of person
    that thinks that Metallica is great no matter what, so it makes for
    what I believe to be a honest review.

    Scott Cook

    Subject: Dave reviews Load
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

    Through a wel-placed friend, I managed to get a copy of the Load CD on
    May 31, and, after listening to it all weekend, I will post my review -
    a splendid time is guaranteed for all, maybe.

    I had a lot of reservations about this album, I was frankly worried
    that I'd be calling it Load of Shit after one listen, but I'm not. I
    only have two problems with this album.

    1. The logo on the cover looks like shit. Bring back the old, cooler
    Metallica logo, and dump the sissy-font one on the cover and the stupid
    star logo. The cover would have looked much cooler with a Master of
    Puppets style Metallica logo on it.

    2. Metallica is about as far away from writing something like the
    aforementioned album as they could ever get. It shouldn't be surprising
    because nothng on the last album had the speed and intensity of much of
    the stuff on the first four, but there are only two fast songs on this
    one. Maybe the next album, or the Megadeth album will have some faster
    stuff, anyways, here's the review, track by track.

    AIN'T MY BITCH One of the two fast songs, catchy, but heavy, has a
    slide guitar solo. Would make a good opener live. One of the best on
    the album. James discovered how to use vocal melody on this album (The
    guitars were always melodic despite being heavy, but the vocals on this
    album are the biggest difference, plus he SINGS, rather than yell on

    2x4 Better than Donnington as it is a bit slower and heavier, though I
    like the Donnington version and didn't think the radio roadcast sounded
    all that bad as some people have. Pretty much identical to it

    THE HOUSE JACK BUILT heavy riff, sounds like Devil dance in some
    points (probably why that isn't on this album), but not as good.
    Doesn't really do anything for me.

    UNTIL IT SLEEPS Black Diamond (Live) meets Angry again, nuff said,
    good song.

    KING NOTHING Cool song. Feedback intro (an E-Bow perhaps?) melodic
    vocals, yet heavy guitar. radio around here is picking up on this one,
    one of the better songs.

    HERO OF THE DAY The "pop" song on the album. There's a 70s song with
    lyrics something like "Down on me, down on my love" (Somebody has to
    know this, and who did it, I can't remember who, or how the rest goes)
    ,but you can sing that over the melody lines of this. Seems the most
    accessible until a faster heavier part kicks in with some almost
    Beatlesque harmonies over the top of it. One of the most radically
    different things they've done, but I like it.

    BLEEDING ME I instantly thought of Jimi Hendrix when I heard the
    intro. Takes a while to build, but is worth the wait. An 8 Minute song,
    it is one of the best things they've ever written and features some
    good lead playing by Mr. Hammett. I hope they do it live.

    CURE Wasn't crazy about this at first, but I like it now. Spoken word
    intro, then Danzig-esque vocals over a pretty cool groove.

    POOR TWISTED ME Metallica plays the blues. By far the blusiest thing
    they've ever writen. James even sings in a blues style, repaeting the
    verses. Slide giutar here too. heavy song, but slow.

    WASTING MY HATE Is that Jason on vox on the first line of the song?
    very cool, the fastest thing on the album, sticks in your head. They
    should release THIS as a single. Cool riff.

    MAMA SAID And you wonder why James wanted Waylon Jennings on
    Lollapaloosa? Metallica goes country with accoustic guitars and pedal
    steel guitar right out of an old Zeppelin record or Sticky Fingers by
    the Stones. I actually heard this on ZROCK, though it was probably
    because they were doing 33 hours straight of Metallica. This might
    actually appeal to all the 15 year old girls who bought the last album
    because of nothing else matters ad consider themselves diehard fans
    when they don't own or like anything else by the band.

    THORN WITHIN Well, it's not country. heavy crunchy itro, with a doom
    and gloom riff. sabbath meets Zeppelin, meets Metallica. melodic
    verses, yet still heavy. I like it.

    RONNIE Bluesy intro, sounds like ZZ Top meets the Cult's Sweet Soul
    Sister. Cool song, still kind of heavy. Has a spoken word hee-haw part.

    OUTLAW TORN Fades in, chunky guitar with cool effects, an epic 10
    minute song, reminds me a bit of To Live is To Die. More Metallica
    songs should be this long.

    And there you have it, all 78:59 of it. The record probably could have
    been a little better with about 12 songs, but give them credit for
    having the balls to experiment. Will the masses like it? Probably.
    Will people who didn't like the last album like it? probably not. I
    think it's better and more diverse than the last record whose songs are
    so tired I don't care if I ever hear any of them again. The five year
    wait is over and Metallica have delivered the goods.


      "I don't tune, I just shake my head."
      Paul Stanley, MTV studios 8/9/95

               Dave Jablinsky...Original member of the three piece set


    Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 17:32:05 -0400
    Subject: infos
    Message-ID: <>

    Date of the next album


    Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 14:59:26 -0700
    From: Ben Laussade <>
    Subject: Scarred.
    Message-ID: <>

    >Ben, I think that the problem with Scarred is not the bell, but the
    >snare and Bass drum pattern, he's playing on the "and" of the note, not the
    >actual quarter note. the bell is on the beat and the snare/kick are off? Coolio. I
    haven't really payed attention to the snare and kick....that bell just rings
    my head and I can't think of anything else. Tanks.

    >Anyone know what kind of Ride Cymbal Mike used to record I&W? I have
    >the same one, and it is awesome. Any guesses guys?

    A round one.

    >Hey, I'm sorry! I forgot to change the "to" address before sending it.
    >We all make mistakes...

    James: From now on, never take anything I say seriously unless further
    notice is given.

    >6. Slash (so shoot me, he's damn good)

    ?! I'M better than Slash! And, yes..I WILL shoot you.

    And I listen openly.
    Ben Laussade


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