YTSEJAM Digest 1375
Today's Topics:
1) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/28/96 - 09:46:13" <response@ibmmail.com>
2) Anagramz & Bucketz
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1373
by part@dutccia.tudelft.nl (Gerralt Partiman)
4) NGSW and JP
by "Cesare Tirabassi (NSI)" <CTIRABAS@estec.esa.nl>
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1373
by acook@tiac.net (acook)
6) YTSELIB pt.3
by fitipmol@ibmmail.com
7) New YJ shirts
by John Mastin <johnny@psisa.com>
8) Mr. Big
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu>
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by Paul Mc Clelland <clelland@ecn.purdue.edu>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1374
by Alan <al766074@academ01.mty.itesm.mx>
11) Re: DT exposure in europe / ACOS snare sound
by esb01@students.stir.ac.uk (E. Ballinger)
12) Antiquities and Scenes
by rbarker@epix.net
13) Great....
by "DvD : Guitar & Internet" <dvd@maya.dei.unipd.it>
14) Great Jam!
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
15) Carpe Diem Boot?
by cfh@galaxy.galstar.com (Hebertson)
16) Too many to list
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 04:46:58 EST
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 03/28/96 - 09:46:13" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 02:37:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Anagramz & Bucketz
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.92a.960328023604.12235C-100000@homer10.u.washington.edu>
"Mr. Infinite Pit Of Imagination?" Geez, Ernie, good thing Ben took over
the anagrams for your name or I really would have had trouble living up to
that title. I can only spew forth so many anagrams at once with my limited
supply of crack. ("crack" (c) WildKoba Magical Brain-Hurting-Funk
Productions 1996)
---- > From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net> > Subject: YtseCon Vegas > > There ya go. :-) Courtesy the Main Sanitary Nag ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The Insanity Anagram?---- > From: "Trey (T-Stretch) Allen" <tallen@junix.ju.edu> > Subject: HELP ME FIND BUCKETBOT@AOL.COM > > Well it seems I have been ripped off...I sent a measily $7 and some > copies to this guy for the silent man single w/ eve and TTT on it. He > sent me the wrong one so I sent that back and haven't heard from him > since. He is no longer w/ his original email address > (bucketbot@aol.com) but if anyone knows what his new one is, please let > me knwo!!!!
And ya'll wondered what my problem was with Bucketbot.
Bafu Vai
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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 11:47:58 +0100 From: part@dutccia.tudelft.nl (Gerralt Partiman) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1373 Message-ID: <9603281047.AA22630@dutccia.tudelft.nl>
Hi there,
I just bpougt Ivanhoe's 'Symbols of time' and World Trade's 'Euphoria'. These albums show that there are enough bands that are capable of making good music like DT does. I really hope that you get the chance to pick up and get into these albums because even intelligent musicians like forementioned bands need money to continue their work. Also try Letter X (are they still active?) from Germany. BTW, has anyone heard of Ricochet? According to the review I read in Aardschok (Dutch magazine) the singer sounds like LaBrie and the music can be put in the same category as DT (not that I think that that is possible). Bye gerralt.
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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 12:03:56 CET From: "Cesare Tirabassi (NSI)" <CTIRABAS@estec.esa.nl> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: NGSW and JP Message-ID: <199603281105.DAA10932@mindcrime.ax.com>
Somebody asked about JP and the National Guitar Summer Workshop. I was there last year, and attended the JP clinic. JP usually does not give lessons for a week, just his usual clinic, and then jam with some teachers. Last year a couple of students succeeded in playing with him as well. Hope it helps,
Cesare ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I have a message to deliver to the cute people of the world ... if you are cute, or maybe you're beautiful ... there's MORE OF US UGLY MOTHER FUCKERS OUT THERE THAN YOU ARE!! So watch out. FZ ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 07:03:23 -0500 From: acook@tiac.net (acook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1373 Message-ID: <199603281203.HAA02311@zork.tiac.net>
> > >How's it going!?! > Pretty good
>I am 15 years old. Just said that for whoever asked who was under 18. >
Me too
>About Rush and the Hall of Fame - I heard from my guitar teacher that Rush >is the overall most sucessful band in the world, as far as total album >sales. He says this is due to the fact that they have a steady fan base, >they never quit, and they release a lot of albums. Can anyone justify this?
They certainly don't have the most total album sales of all bands in the world. That award goes to somebody like the Beatles or Michael Jackson or something. Thriller probably outsold all of the Rush albums combined. What your teacher probably meant is that Rush has one of the most dedicated fan bases in the world, whenever they release a record they're practically insured that it will at least go gold and probably platinum. Most of their releases have gone platinum, a couple 2x, and I think Moving Pictures went 3x.
>To whoever complained about the immaturity on this list, try the White >Zombie list. They never talk about the band and I have never seen the word >Fuck used more in one sentence in my life. Language doesn't bother me at >all, but there is a point where you quit sounding cool and start sounding >pretentious. This list is a breath of fresh air. At least we try to talk >about the band. >
I have definitely noticed a connection with the maturity of the music and the maturity of the listeners. I'm not jumping to any conclusions, but just an observation...
Adam Cook acook@tiac.bet visit me at, http://www.tiac.net/users/com (hard hat construction area!)
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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 07:18:58 EST From: fitipmol@ibmmail.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: YTSELIB pt.3 Message-ID: <199603281219.EAA11930@mindcrime.ax.com>
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--- Saapunut 03.MAPE 90-4694432 28-03-96 14.17 -> IBMMAIL.INTERNET IBM IMX =
Hellow everybody! =
As for the Ytse Prog Library, everyone joining the library should prepare a list of their recordings and email it to the librarian (me, that is). The list should be prepared as follows: =
Band:Title Format Your email address =
as in: =
Eyeshut Estrade:Pictures and Phrases CD fitipmol=D6ibmmail.com Kismet's Caution:Upside Down CD fitipmol=D6ibmmail.com Hurry:Halfs of the Globe T fitipmol=D6ibmmail.com =
.and so forth. =
I will combine the lists with the ones I already have and some time soon I will tell the URL where to find the list. =
_Mape_
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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 08:19:15 -0600 (CST) From: John Mastin <johnny@psisa.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: New YJ shirts Message-ID: <199603281419.IAA06094@psa.pencom.com>
Trey writes: > I promise you will be very happy with the shirts. Its > killer!! > Hey, I just would like to say that Trey is right. I have both versions of the YJ shirts. Both versions of the shirts rule. Jason Giles' and Trey's. If you don't have 'em, you gotta get 'em. Both of them put out some quality stuff.
Johnny Motown
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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 09:26:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Mr. Big Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.960328090335.82934A-100000@moose.uvm.edu>
Someone brought up Mr. Big's song-writing ability. Mr. Big has come up with some INCREDIBLE songs during their career, most of which, IMHO, were on albums that came AFTER their first self-titled effort. That album is okay, but the only real standouts for me are "Addicted To That Rush" and their cover of "30 Days In The Hole." Everyone knows that the band has chops, but I think a testament to the band's integrity is their ability to discern when chops do and do not serve the song; Extreme has this ability, as does DT. "Lean In To It" is, IMHO, the best Mr. Big album to date and contained the mega-hit "To Be With You." This album achieved the perfect balance between chops and song-writing. "Bump Ahead," which conatined the band's version of "Wild World," while great, seemed to leave me with a less satisfied feeling. "Colorado Bulldog" is a great song from both a song-writing and a technical perspective, contrasting a blistering opening run (if you haven't heard it, you're missing out) with a jazzy bass line. As a side note, I think DT and Mr. Big would make a great tour together and I'm surprised no one has mentioned this before. As far as Mr. Big's new album is concerned, I have mixed feelings. Keep in mind that I'm drawn to the more "commercial" side of the band (I actually like "To Be With You"). That being said, album opener "Trapped In Toyland" kicks major ass, as does "Take Cover." But the highlight of the album for me is their newest single "Going Where The Wind Blows," a great acoustic song that may invoke visions of "To Be With You." However, the former is the superior song. Much more introspective. There are some other cool moments: "The Chain" is a haunting song, and "Where Do I Fit In?" has a groovy feel to it. But alot of this album is in the vein of "Tempramental" off "Lean Into It." I don't mind this type of song, but it just doesn't blow me away. Personally, there have always been songs off each album that didn't do much for me. Mr. Big has a mind-blowing album in them, just haven't gotten it down on tape yet. I just hope they aren't dropped before they get a chance to record it. Richie
P.S. I agree with the guy that mentioned the new Motley Crue album. It will shatter your image of what Motley Crue was. John Corabi has an incredible voice and it's definitely worth checking out.
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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 09:27:12 -0500 From: Paul Mc Clelland <clelland@ecn.purdue.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Message-ID: <199603281427.JAA08305@atom.ecn.purdue.edu>
Hey ytsedudes and dudettes!
Somebody wrote:
>>I agree with you on the matter on general, if they want to call theater >>theatre, let them. I have been in acting for several years now, and even >>though I'm American, it was always theatre to us. However, we aren't >>talking about theatre in general here, we are talking about Dream >>Theater. They have been very insistant that it should be spelled ER, not >>RE, and we owe them that much for all the great music they have given >>us. Dream Theater is not a noun, it's a *proper* noun. It's the name of >>a band, and it has a specific spelling, no matter what country you hail >>from. It's the same reason we call you "Scott" and not "scott." Proper >>nouns have a proper spelling, and it doesn't stop at captialization. >>They want to be Dream Theater. They *are* Dream Theater.
Yes, they ARE Dream Theater, but it seems to me that shouldn't we show a little compassion instead of berating the poor guy! Aren't WE the ones who want to get a few more people to listen to DT, yet this is how we treat the foreign fans unused to spelling nuances? Are they somehow unworthy of liking the music because they can't spell? Don't get me wrong, it annoys me as well, but geesh! I'm just glad somebody in Mexico listens to DT!!!
Well, I've relistened to WDADU and think TOWHTSTS with Mr. LaBrie at vocals would KICK ASS! Looks like I'll have to purchase WDATU, hmmmm? Maybe DT will come to Purdue? Hey guys, if you're reading this...on your next tour, come to Purdue, please?
Pauly
"If you wait long enough, you will see the body of your enemy floating down the river."
-Connor-son (Rising Sun)
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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 09:17:04 -0600 (CST) From: Alan <al766074@academ01.mty.itesm.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1374 Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.960328091211.48609C-100000@academ01.mty.itesm.mx>
For any of you that like Extreme as well I have the mailing list adress... it is jkramer@monmouth.com I have some suggestions for the list.... I have just a week in it more less, but I get a new issue each day, and many times we don't get information about Dream Theater....so I think we should only write about DT in this list...if anyone wants a list of mailing lists, please email me, and also I see that many people writes many times a day, and it makes harder to read the issue, sometimes I don't have time to read all the issues, and sometimes I miss great information....So please, let's do something to make this list better, ok? any suggestions, comments, whatever? email me....
at least somebody's cool as you @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @_______________________________@ @ Alan Estrada Adler @ @_______________________________@ @al766074@academ01.mty.itesm.mx @ @_______________________________@ @ Don't Worry, Be Hippie! @ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 15:37:20 +0000 From: esb01@students.stir.ac.uk (E. Ballinger) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: DT exposure in europe / ACOS snare sound Message-ID: <v01520d05ad805e026aeb@[139.153.41.159]>
Ali wrote: > Hello hello hello, new to this place but just thought I would answer > an earlier mail about how much exposure DT get in Europe. Quite > frankly, none, nil, zilch.
to which Graham added: >> Likelihood of ever hearing them on any radio station is >> about as likely as me eating British Beef! > >I've been eating it for 21 years now, and I still haven't turned into a >mad cow. **(A matter of opinion! - Edd)** I'll keep trying, though. :-) >>Incidentally, Clyde 1 FM played the Big Medley from ACOS a few weeks back >. . .
.once upon a time, and a very good time it was, there was a moo cow, coming down along the road.. but it got shot before it could walk much further cause it *might* have caught BSE 7 years ago and BSE *might* cause humans to develop CJD if they eat BSE infected meat... possibly... mooooo!
but moving along swiftly.. I remember just before Awake came out (Nov/Dec 94) the sunday night rock show on Radio 1 played several tracks from Awake. I can't remember what they played but I know they played Lie and (I think) Caught In A Web as well as another couple.
There was also the time just after the Ronnie Scott's gig that DT did a session and interview on the Bruce Dickinson rock show which was excellent. They played 6:00, CiaW, and Lifting Shadows. I have the full thing (including interview) on tape if anyone wants a copy, although if you have Acoustic Dreams you'll already have 2 of them. (6:00 and CiaW I think..)
>>Whoa! You mean I'm not the only one that got irritated the first time he >>heard that snare on ACOS??? I remember ripping the CD out of the case > >I asked Mike at the clinic in Leverkusen, Germany two days ago about the drum >sound on ACOS, and he said that it was fully intentional. He wanted to make >the drums sound REAL. He even didn't care for that buzz and rattling >sometimes. Just listen to it as a crisp, precise, and, of course, real snare >drum sound. > >>much. It's actually kind of cool in places, but I definitely like the >>AWAKE and I&W snares MUCH better. > >I personally also like the Awake snare sound better, but hate the IAW trigger >sound. John Petrucci said to me that he liked it! I couldn't believe it! Mike >does not like it, of course. I heard him play the middle part of Metropolis at >the clinic, and it sounds so much better with all the ghost notes on the >snare!
This has been discussed before, but it's funny how the drummers seem to like the ACOS snare whereas the guitarists like the I&W snare. The Awake snare is somewhere in between, maybe appealing to bassists. ;-) However I think the reason that guitarists don't like the ACOS snare is cause it's so high and poppy that it cuts through their high squeely diddly-piss solo, thus taking the spotlight off them, and doing their ego absolutely no good!!! hehe - flame away!
Cheers... Edd. __________ ___ http://forth.stir.ac.uk/~esb01 ______/ __ /\_________/ /\______________________________________ / __ __ /_ / // __ __ __/__ __ __ __ __ _ __ __ /\ / /_//_ / // // /_ / / // //_//\ / /_ /_ / // /_// / //_/ / / / /_ __//_//_// @ __/ / /_//_//_ / // __/. __/ / // . / //_ . /_// \ / / /_____________________________________________________________________/ / edd \_____________________________________________________________________\/ 1996
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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 10:59:58 PST From: rbarker@epix.net To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Antiquities and Scenes Message-ID: <Chameleon.960328110238.rbarker@.epix.net>
Can someone tell me what Antiquities and Scenes From a Memory are if there is something special about them. Next, could you also tell me what songs are on each disk so I can decide on whether or not to order them. Thanks!!
Robert Barker ------------------------------------- Name: Barker E-mail: rbarker@epix.net Date: 3/28/96 Time: 10:59:58 AM -------------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 17:00:40 +0100 (MET) From: "DvD : Guitar & Internet" <dvd@maya.dei.unipd.it> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Great.... Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960328164614.13166A-100000@eva.dei.unipd.it>
Hi... I'm very happy to see on DT mailing list a lot of Mr.Big's fan. Paul Gilbert is my favourite guitarist not only for is techique, but for his "be a guitarist"!!! I also love Bettencourt, Satriani, Petrucci ( my style derive a lot from them), but Paul drive me nuts : he's my "guitar model". So, if any one love him like me, e-mail me to talk about him and his group Mr.Big (my favourite, of course... with Extreme and DT too).
Cya!!!!!
Daniel aka DvD
You could find me on undernet IRC network on #Italia, #Mr.Big, #DreamTheater
P.S. : When DT will return on IRC???
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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 08:40:54 -0800 From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Great Jam! Message-ID: <199603281640.IAA14092@cats.ucsc.edu>
Holy Bafu! Where's the crud go to? What's all this MUSIC discussion going on here? Great work, I sense great joy in the jam these days.
Now, on to replies:
Zach: CDWarehouse has a prog section? Way cool! Too bad they stopped carrying boots after Brad Kava in the Mercury mentioned that they did and suddenly every record store started trying to order them... :( I feel ready to go beyond Bahr and get some standard bootleg discs.
To the guy with the CD recommendations, including GWAR: Right on! You made me drool. :) And yes, Gwar is prog. Just check out King Queen off of Scumdogs of the Universe for a proto-prog song. Is their newer stuff good? I have the first three, but found America Must be Destroyed leaning a little in the commercial direction, though that may have been for a point. (I think Pussy Planet is a parody of bands like REM and not an imitation, and The Road Behind is a parody ballad) Still, they are leaning more on parodying others and less on being themselves on that album. I also bought the Phallus in Wonderland video and watched it, erm, once. Weird stuff. Let me also add that their first album, HELL-O (Yes, like JELL-O) is very rough. Why am I going on about them? I just love saying their song titles in rational discussion. It has such a humorous quality to it.
Anagrams by Master Laussade: > Reverse blitz?! Oil!!! (Uh...) Obviously a Houston Oiler fan (football, if memory serves.)
Which reminds me. I had to write a scene for my playwriting class (Actually I had to write menay scenes) that was a quid pro quo -- you know two people talking about different things but each one thinks they are talking about the same thing -- classic double misunderstanging, and mine came out sounding like Shakespeare (bad Shakespeare, mind you) and, in coming up with Shakespearean names, turned to the Jam! So, there's Lord Laussade, his crafty servant Bafu, who is in love with Laussade's daughter, Bahrina, so Laussade disguises himself as Sengir, the stable hand, to confront him, and that's thew scene I wrote! Pretty corny, but thanks for the inspiration, folks!
p.s. yes, it's all in Iambic Pentameter.
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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 11:21:24 -0600 From: cfh@galaxy.galstar.com (Hebertson) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Carpe Diem Boot? Message-ID: <v01540b00ad80264daf03@[204.251.82.192]>
What is the story behind this boot... What is on it? - Where can I get it? - Is it still available? ---- Thanks
------------------- Chris Hebertson cfh@galstar.com http://www.galstar.com/~cfh/ "The way your heart beats makes all difference - In Learning to Live." - Dream Theater
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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 12:37:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu> To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Too many to list Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9603281254.D5944-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: WildKoba@aol.com > Subject: stuff before i go far far away > > the dt tribute thing. it sounds so ooooooh la la la. umm, i was wondering if > i still have a band to play these with. you know, the digital man (who will > soon be receiving 220 minutes of audio-ecstasy), umm, the man they call
And I thought we were just trading music! :) Sorry, bud, but I'm stuck up here in the tundra. Had my break last week. Didn't we discuss this in January? Well, maybe Mojo, Gandalf (hombre sin ropa), and Itz wanna get together. Then we can jam some funky stuff over the summer. (Shit! I'm talking like him now! :)
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> From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net> > Subject: YtseCon Vegas > > Omigod...it's the: EVIL ZERO BLISTER!!!!!
Bafu must not practice his guitar enough. :)
> Umm.... > And, Ernesto Schnack wanted anagrams of his name, so: > > 3.Snatches reckon > 4.Entrance shocks
I'll let the peanut gallery write its own punch line.
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> From: Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com> > Subject: Mr. Big, songwriting, and DT > > But sadly, they couldn't write a decent song to save their lives.
This is DEFINITELY a matter of opinion. Yes, I agree that the first album was a wank-fest. But the second had some really good songs. It sounded like they sat down to write melodies around music, rather than write music around solos. I love "Alive and Kickin'" and "Green-Tinted." I think they rock.
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> From: Gilbert Thetgyi <102346.2730@compuserve.com> > Subject: Re: CoM-Ple_xi+ty noncomplexity > > A little while ago, Master Ben ("It's clobberin' time!") Laussade asked: > > >I have a question. I think it will be interesting to see the answers. > > > > What is Music? > > On the wall of my of my saxophone teacher's room, there was this needlework that > said: > > Music > Is not a science, > It's an art form. > And at its best, > It's an emotion.
Hmm... That's exactly what I wanted to say, I just wasn't sure how to say it.
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> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22=D8ystein_G._Bekken=22?=" <af2c02@af.bodin.vgs.no> > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: Try eating cinnamon with gloves!
First of all, how did this mess get onto the list? It's ax.com these days!
> Ytse Jam every1! > I'm new to the list, and I go by the name of Psycho Prawn!
(That's called foreshadowing. Can you say foreshadowing? I knew you could.)
> I've so to speak been a musician and a music-fanatic all my life, and DT is > one of my gr8 inspirations. Mike Portnoy is one of my huge idols!
Um, we're not the band. You don't have to brown-nose US.
> Resp.
Sure, my sentiments exactly. * D-Man shrugs.
> Everybody listen when I become all I know How to live for sure Body Wall > into my precious soul I'll show you fears Pleasure Pain is my control Let > your body lay in their Warm flesh to your fear... [J.D.]
I see a bunch of words, but I don't see any English. Do they speak English in What? ENGLISH, MOTHER FUCKER! DO YOU SPEAK IT?
> --------------------------------------------------- > MIST (Part 1) (by Ellingsen) > --------------------------------------------------- > Flying high in Amsterdam > My brain is pissing on uncle Sam > Shooting shit into my vain > My body...totally insane > Observe the naked fist > Please don't try to reach me through the MIST...
I made a happy rhyme Wonder what rhymes with rhyme
And, just when you thought it was safe to continue reading the Ytse Jam...
> --------------------------------------------------- > MIST (Part 2) (by Bekken aka Psycho Prawn) > --------------------------------------------------- > > No hope of inquisition
What a show!
> The mist...a blurry vision.
You should set your resolution for more colors. Perhaps play it on a Pentium.
> Needle's ready, arm's strapped > Pain in your vain as you shoot the crap... > Reaching towards enigma > Somebody said Stigma! > Still in Amsterdam > Still pissing on Uncle Sam!
I found something worse than spam Shit like this on the Ytse Jam
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