YTSEJAM Digest 1592
Today's Topics:
1) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/31/96 - 00:28:38" <response@ibmmail.com>
2) More Stuph ...
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
3) Lucy Furr.
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
4) Enchant, Yes tribute
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
5) GC
by mjnewb@mo.net (Monty Newberry)
6) Ivanhoe and Shadow Gallery FS
by dhplotki@students.wisc.edu (Dave Plotkin)
7) Re: ONE DUMBASS AND HIS AUDACITY (SP?)
by Jon Byrne <rael@access.mountain.net>
8) Re: ONE DUMBASS AND HIS AUDACITY (SP?)
by Jon Byrne <rael@access.mountain.net>
9) Re: ONE DUMBASS AND HIS AUDACITY (SP?)
by Jon Byrne <rael@access.mountain.net>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1586
by tormato@allinux1.alliance.net (Jeremy Hyde)
11) Sorry, I fucked up!
by Jon Byrne <rael@access.mountain.net>
12) More stuff
by Mithrandir <mithrandir@pb.net>
13) Last chance for 2 for 1 deal
by hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com (Larry Odneal)
14) Blade Runner!. . .JP Clinics
by nishiki@juno.com (Aaron K Silverman)
15) Yngwie & Friends
by nishiki@juno.com (Aaron K Silverman)
16) Bawho?
by subtlerage@gnn.com (Andrew Miller)
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1588
by ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 19:27:04 EDT
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/31/96 - 00:28:38" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 19:49:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: More Stuph ...
Message-ID: <199605302349.TAA16906@wicked.stigmata.org>
Damn I have been posting alot lately.....
Jaime the Dragon said:
> "Skadz, STOP BOUNCING AROUND, DAMMIT!"
> (it's been too long since I've been on #ytsejam. <G>)
Me? I don't bounce no more. My bounce mechanism has broken.
I don't even show up there much anymore. Having no time sucks
Brian Wherry's Slick Music
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Well, Brian sent me a tape of some of his stuff over a year ago now,
and from the start I thought it was amazing. I have heard him play
live (well, sitting around in his dorm room) and he is fuckin amazing.
Now all you people with Record Exec Friends go tell them about Brian :)
Pantera / White Zombie
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ATTENTION MASSACHUSETTS JAMMERS!!!
Tickets for the White Zombie/Pantera show go on sale on Sat!!!!
The show is August 26th at the Centrum. Of course the commercial
mentioned nothing about cost. (anyone in the Boston area wanna
drive me and Brian Wherry to the show????)
Skadz
-- +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ | Ryan P Skadberg skadz@mindstorm.com | | s y s t e m . a d m i n i s t r a t o r / w e b . d e v e l o p e r | | http://www.bluesky.net/skadz/ http://www.dreamt.org/ | +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ \ "And every prayer we pray at night has somehow lost its meaning" / \ "Dead Winter Dead" - Savatage / +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+------------------------------
Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 16:50:21 -0700 From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Lucy Furr. Message-ID: <199605302350.QAA26174@maple.enet.net>
>Such as Lucifer. ;> > >(and that Christopher Walken is just too smooth as seraphim Gabriel.)
That movie kicked major ass. But, after the movie I had Satan's burrito. I went with my brother and a few of his friends, and after the movie we were walking around scaring people (mostly by screaming "I SAW SATAN!" in their faces) and we went to go eat mexican food at at restaurant I'd been to maybe once before. I have a taste for spicy food, so I ordered a particular burrito that had the saying that always catches my eye next to it: Hot 'n Spicy! So, the waiter comes and I give him my order. He says: "How hot do you want that?" I said: "Hot". The waiter said: "Really hot?" I said: "Sure." The waiter said: "Okay." He chuckled a little and walked back into the kitchen. I didn't think much of it, because the majority of Mexican restaurants don't serve really spicy food so that they don't scare/kill the customers. So, time passes and the waiter comes back with our food. I start to take a bite, but then I look up...and three or four restaurant employees are standing in the corner watching me. And laughing. At that point, I was kinda worried. I finally put the fork to the burrito and had a bite. Ow. Nobody told me that they were gonna put habeneros in there. It had to be...nothing else hurts like that. Oh well. It was still good. ;-)
About the movie, though...am I the only one who thought it was strange that the guy who played the devil looked nearly exactly like all the pictures of Jesus I've ever seen?
"US prog-metal band Fates Warning has recruited former Armored Saint bassist >Joey Vera as their new guitarist after the departed Frank Aresti.
Joey Vera and his brother.....Aloe.
<groaaaaaaaannnnnnnnn>
>I first thought not even to answer you, then I thought I'd privately do it. >But if you fuck me on the jam, I will respond ON THE JAM.
If ANYBODY fucks ANYBODY on the Jam, they better clean it up.
>Lets start a new string... Who are your favorite guitarists? >
NOOOOOOO!!!!!! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO MORE TOP FIVES! AHHHHH!!!!!
>"One of us always tells the truth, > and one of us always lies." > --Labyrinth
Cool movie...Jenny Connely and David Bowie should do more flicks together.
I'd quote something, but I can't remember a damned thing else about it. :-)
>i just wanted to let you jammers know that i'm taking this to private >email. there's no sense wasting bandwidth on this. > >Andrew
Sorry, but....I don't care. And, I imagine that you don't care that I don't care...and so on.
>>Is it possible to type a backwards R? I didn't think so. > > Sure: "ERA"
I'd laugh....but that's not funny. I didn't say a backwards ARE. So nanny nanny boo boo to YOU!
>I wonder how that class-action suit against T.R.U. > from the World Dyslexic's Association is doing... >
The W.A.D?
>Such as Virginia Madsen. I think I like her better > brunette <*pant*>.
Casey from Ninja Turtles was Thomas. ;-)
>Secondly, does anyone know the name of the LaBries' daughter and the day she >was born?
Chloe, eh?
Damn. I have nothing cool to end this post with.
"Can you keep a secret?" Ben Laussade
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Date: Thu, 30 May 96 16:53:00 PDT From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Enchant, Yes tribute Message-ID: <9605302353.AA09007@tengs1>
Because I heard some not-so-good things said about Enchant here a while back, I never picked this one up; however, some good things were said here recently, so I did.
It's pretty cool stuff. But it makes better background music than driving music, if you know what I mean. Sounds like a cross between Yes, Rush and Survivor. %>)>
Those who lean towards metal will have a lesser chance of liking it.
I also picked up the Yes tribute. After a couple of listens, I think I like it a lot. Shadow Gallery's drummer is *the* man. Also, that's the only song done by Magellan that I really like. Of course, I haven't listened to my Magellan CD in a year (or two?), so I might dust it off and give it a spin. It would've been cool if they'd done something from Union, like "Silent Talking" though.
Zach
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 19:43:54 -0500 From: mjnewb@mo.net (Monty Newberry) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: GC Message-ID: <199605310043.TAA05277@Walden.MO.NET>
Just picked up Galactic Cowboy's latest (yeah, i know, I'm a bit behind, but that's what you get when you have no job - I'm trying). I must say that I like it. it is a bit different from their erarlier stuff, but I really dig it. Later.
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 22:00:55 -0700 From: dhplotki@students.wisc.edu (Dave Plotkin) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Ivanhoe and Shadow Gallery FS Message-ID: <v02110100add429a42cf6@[144.92.180.224]>
I've got Ivanhoe's "Symbols of Time" and Shadow Gallery's "Carved in Stone" cd's for sale. If anyone's interested, email me privately. Thanks...
Dave Plotkin
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 22:15:44 -0400 From: Jon Byrne <rael@access.mountain.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: ONE DUMBASS AND HIS AUDACITY (SP?) Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19960530221911.251f952c@access.mountain.net>
At 06:28 PM 5/29/96 -0700, you wrote: >maybe there are just more dumbasses than i figured.
Unfortunately. And they're all selling shit you need to survive! :)
Jonathan Byrne rael@access.mountain.net West Virginia University '96 ----------------------------------------------------------------- "The more I see, the more I hear The more I find fewer answers." -Fish, "White Russian", Marillion
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 22:16:05 -0400 From: Jon Byrne <rael@access.mountain.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: ONE DUMBASS AND HIS AUDACITY (SP?) Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19960530221931.251f6bcc@access.mountain.net>
At 06:28 PM 5/29/96 -0700, you wrote: >maybe there are just more dumbasses than i figured.
Unfortunately. And they're all selling shit you need to survive! :)
Jonathan Byrne rael@access.mountain.net West Virginia University '96 ----------------------------------------------------------------- "The more I see, the more I hear The more I find fewer answers." -Fish, "White Russian", Marillion
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 22:16:08 -0400 From: Jon Byrne <rael@access.mountain.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: ONE DUMBASS AND HIS AUDACITY (SP?) Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19960530221934.251f987c@access.mountain.net>
At 06:28 PM 5/29/96 -0700, you wrote: >maybe there are just more dumbasses than i figured.
Unfortunately. And they're all selling shit you need to survive! :)
Jonathan Byrne rael@access.mountain.net West Virginia University '96 ----------------------------------------------------------------- "The more I see, the more I hear The more I find fewer answers." -Fish, "White Russian", Marillion
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Date: Thu, 30 May 96 22:48 EDT From: tormato@allinux1.alliance.net (Jeremy Hyde) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1586 Message-ID: <m0uPKGc-000pMPC@alliance.net>
>Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 14:28:00 +0100 >From: jon.berger@dennis.se >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: New Guy - Oh No!!! >Message-ID: <31aafd11.dennis@relay.dennis.se> > >Evenin' Everyone; > >Well, I'm new to this list, and even though I've heard tons of stories >about how you guys here are fast & furious with the flames, at least I >hope that being a "first-timer" you'll bear with me. (?)
A bear? Hey, I am the walrus (goo goo g'joob)!
>What I'd like to know, is if anyone out there have any tapes from DT's >covers-gig at the Marquee last year...I know that parts of it is to be >found on the "A Change of Seasons" CD, which is brilliant, but I'd love >to have a copy of DT doing "Easter" by Marillion, as well as hearing >Steve Hogarth, Bruce Dickinson and Steve Howe performing with the band. > >So, if anyone out there can help me out, I'd be VERY happy!
I'd be very happy if the same person that helps this dude out, helps me out!
>Dream prospect for the perfect tour; Marillion & Dream Theater! :-) In >Europe DT could support Marillion, in the USA the other way around. The >perfect opportunity for both bands, if you ask me!
Man, you are speakin' my mind!
>BTW, Am I the only one that thinks the new Metallica single sux bigtime?
Ummm, no, as the child molester Michael Jackson said, "You are not alone."
>Yours truly, > >Jon Berger >jon.berger@dennis.se > This guy is cool. Hey Skadz (in whiney begging voice) can we keep him? ;)
"To navigate waters, and finally answer to - yes!" -Yes
Jeremy Hyde aka Tempus tormato@alliance.net
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 22:53:00 -0400 From: Jon Byrne <rael@access.mountain.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Sorry, I fucked up! Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19960530225627.26afc85e@access.mountain.net>
I appologize for the last message being send thrice. My Email was acting up a bit and ended up spitting out the damn thing 3 times.
Might help me get an EOJ, tho ;)
Jonathan Byrne rael@access.mountain.net West Virginia University '96 ----------------------------------------------------------------- "The more I see, the more I hear The more I find fewer answers." -Fish, "White Russian", Marillion
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 20:14:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Mithrandir <mithrandir@pb.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: More stuff Message-ID: <199605310314.UAA25743@mindcrime.ax.com>
Hey Kids!!!!!
First things first; Kevin, I can sympathize. I am an Islander fan, nuff said
Bafu was kidding when he said that DT was not influenced by Iron Maiden. Let me take you back in time to 1983. It is a Friday night and my friends and I are hanging out at William T Rogers Jr. High school for recreation night. That night there was a special musical guest performing in the auditorium, CENTURION. The band was playing mostly covers of IM and Judas Priest, and Rush. I remember them playing "The Trooper" quite well. This was shortly after Piece of Mind was released, so I tend to think that the band was heavily influenced by Maiden. For those of you who do not know, John P, and Kevin M were members of Centurion. It's amazing how Bafu can totally scam some of you and you still take his words as fact, He was kidding. Elen sila lumenn omentilmo, Mithrandir
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 20:32:06 -0700 From: hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com (Larry Odneal) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Last chance for 2 for 1 deal Message-ID: <199605310332.UAA23960@dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com>
Hello again YtseFlamers - I mean, YtseJAMmers!
I want to rant and rave about Threshold for a little while, please. Just got "Psychedelicatessen" and it ROCKS! You should all check this band out - very impressive! I like the singer - Glynn Morgan - he has more of a "rock" voice than many of the other progressive bands' vocalists do, and it goes well with the heavy prog these guys are doin'. Excellent production on the album, as well. (unlike that on Ivanhoe's "Symbols of Time" - I thought it was a little muddy. And while Andy Franck seems to be a very talented singer, my first impression is that the rest of the band needs a little work. Maybe it'll grow on me.) But I digress - Threshold is so good that I just might NOT sue them for using the name of my band in 1972. (Smiley intended but not typed so as not to offend Neil).
Anyway, I got both of these CDs from the Web site of Avalanche Records, for a total of $18.95, including shipping, and this 2-for-1 deal ends tomorrow night (May 31st) so I recommend that you check it out. Several other European bands are featured (I don't know if they're prog, though) such as Mayfair, Black Jester, Airborne, and John Wetton. They also seem to have Saga's entire catalog there.
The web site is at www.bonaire.com.
DTC - It seems that a lot of prog bands have sprung up lately - is it because Dream Theater has had some success with the form, or is that a little naive? Reading Shadow Gallery's bios, I noticed that most of the musicians cited DT as an influence. And of course Superior mentioned the Ytsejam in the "behind" booklet. I'd like to think that some very fine musicians who might have been playing alternative, or metal, are now in progressive bands thanks in part to our beloved Fab Five.
Thasall fa now,
Sir Reality
Off to order Threshold's "Wounded Land" and anything else I can find by them . . .
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 21:40:11 PST From: nishiki@juno.com (Aaron K Silverman) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Blade Runner!. . .JP Clinics Message-ID: <19960530.222300.7951.2.nishiki@juno.com>
Howdy,
Correction Man strikes again: " Yeah, I can't wait! I heard they're calling this tour "All Fans Will Be Crushed" or "Time To Die" or something to that fucking hostile extent.
Hmm. Rutger Hauer also said that in Bladerunner, but who needs more quotes? "
Actually, it was the other male Replicant, who I think was called Leon, who said this to Harrison Ford. Now that I think about it, I think Rutger Hauer may have also said this at the very end, but I forget for sure and I don't have my Blade Runner script handy. . .(where the heck did that get off to. . .?)
Another movie, on that Revelations thread, that you all should watch, is The Rapture, with Mimi Rogers (and David Duchovny, in a pre-X-Files role). This is one of those movies where if you watch it fresh without reading the box summary or reviews, you WILL BE BLOWN AWAY! Even if you know what it's about, it's still an awesome flick! And thanks for the good word on The Prophecy, I was thinking about renting that myself. Question: Is that the one with Scott Bacula, or is that a different movie?
Since I never mention Dream Theater in my posts anymore, there, I just did! :) Does anyone know if John Petrucci is giving a clinic in the NYC area anytime soon?
Party on,
DJKA
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 22:18:33 PST From: nishiki@juno.com (Aaron K Silverman) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Yngwie & Friends Message-ID: <19960530.222300.7951.3.nishiki@juno.com>
Hey gang,
Martin, you should give Yngwie another listen! Granted, his last 18 albums haven't exactly been oysters full of songwriting pearls(yes, I made that up! :) ), but he certainly is a finer player than a lot of people give him credit for. His early material is absolutely brilliant, and I saw him in concert fairly recently ('94) and he put on a great show. I think it's become trendy to rag on him, partly thanks to the imitators who really DO suck. For ye who started the 10 favorite guitarists thread:
1) Steve Howe 2) Alex Lifeson 3) Steve Morse The rest aren't in order: Frank Zappa Yngwie Malmsteen (How'd you guess?) John Petrucci Jimi Hendrix Brian May Eddie Van Halen Jimmy Page
And, I would like to cast a negative vote for Eric Clapton, who has churned out mostly garbage and pap for the past 25 years. I once heard or read a guitarist say in an interview that he learned to play because his father told him "Listen to Page and listen to Beck, but Clapton sucks", or something along those lines. I forget who this was, can anyone remember? I think Billy Gibbons of ZZ Top plays with as much feeling as Clapton ever did, but gets 1/100 the credit for it.
John Petrucci is kind of borderline. . .do I REALLY like him better than Vai or Satriani or Beck? Tough to say, his music as a whole definitely does more for me, and since this is the YTSEJAM, he gets the benefit of the doubt! :) (And 'cause I met him and he was really nice!)
Party on,
DJKA
PS I almost forgot to vote for . . .ME! Somebody's got to, right? :)
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 23:48:29 From: subtlerage@gnn.com (Andrew Miller) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Bawho? Message-ID: <199605310443.AAA30978@mail-e2b-service.gnn.com>
>From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> >Subject: Zombies, Phasers, Musicians
>There's a place for you in a Buddhist temple somewhere, Andy.
shhhhh. dammit Bafu i'm trying to meditate. aahmmmmmmmm......
>> why do i hear a fire starting somewhere........ > >Probably because your other personality is a pyromaniac.
and it's just one of many. :)
Andrew
================================================== C O M E V I S I T M Y W E B P A G E!!!!!!!! http://members.gnn.com/subtlerage Andrew Miller - keyboardist - SubtleRage@gnn.com - SubtleRage (progressive rock) - Interum (new age/prog instrumental) ==================================================
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 23:49:44 -0400 From: ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1588 Message-ID: <19960531034943.AAA2857@mail.pananet.com>
>>Heehee.....remember The Three Caballeros? >>
Ha! That's the name of a panamanian band... actually it's Los Tres Caballeros, but we call'em Cabelleros del Zodiaco which is a cartoon they... oh never mind.
as if you cared...
> >No, but I remember Chris Caballero. He was this really cool skateboarding >d00d back in my wimp-rap (M.C. Hammer) era. > > Tony Hawk could ollie really high. > Powell Peralta....uh ...Rob Roskopp... lemme think...hmmmm HOSOI!!. Slimeballs... gullwings...shit I remember we used to pick the bearings by the country in which they were made... German ones were supposively the best (well whadda you expect?:) but I found the Singapore ones to be much quiter:)
Fuck, I was such a poser... I could ollie like an inch off the ground...
then I discovered the guitar,
and now my skateboard is rotting in the kitchen:)
Where's the beef??? Ernie :)
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