YTSEJAM Digest 1595
Today's Topics:
1) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/31/96 - 17:40:29" <response@ibmmail.com>
2) Yngwie Malmsteen
by CNG@tcco.com
3) guitar favorites
by Robert Andrew Jurado <roburado@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
4) Mike Bahr's Contest.
by babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia)
5) Re: guitar favorites
by BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
6) "Once upon a time, and a very good time it was..."
by mccorkindact@alpha.hendrix.edu
7) stop
by Marzetti@gnn.com (Barbara Marzetti)
8) Portnoy in Florida!
by "George Bast (CS)" <bast@babbage.csee.usf.edu>
9) My CD player SUCKS!!
by swanson@henge.com (Sheila Swanson)
10) Unfair
by John McCabe <caber1@cris.com>
11) YTSEJAM digest 1594
by "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1594
by JBeck33449@aol.com
13) Ear Candy
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
14) European CDs
by John McCabe <caber1@cris.com>
15) Questions.
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
16) misheard lyrics, transilience, scratchy discs
by Dave <dduva@freenet.npiec.on.ca>
17) ytsecon 3?
by Brian Cox <lerxst@metronet.com>
18) Labyrinth
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
19) Moojoman
by Mithrandir <mithrandir@pb.net>
20) My top five (excluding DT):
by James Mohr <jpmohr@primenet.com>
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 12:40:53 EDT
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/31/96 - 17:40:29" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
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Date: Fri, 31 May 96 13:31:15 EDT
From: CNG@tcco.com
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Yngwie Malmsteen
Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+gLlflA@tcx.tcco.com>
>From: Martin Saleteg <martin.saleteg@mbox200.swipnet.se>
>Subject: Top ten guitarists
>
>I can tell by your(CNG@tcco.com) list that you definately are a shredder
>of the worst kind! Why the hell do you put Yngve Malmsten (yes, that's
>his real name) on the top of your list??!! Are you kidding me? "Yngwie"
>is one BIG swedish (yes, I hate to say it!) joke. We are ashamed of this
>guy here in Sweden.
As far as I can tell, Yngwie Malmsteen and Swedish Erotica are Sweden's only
two exports. (just kidding). Yngwie is possibly one of the most influential
guitar players of our time. The only guy who might have spawned more clones
than him is Eddie Van Halen. I'll admit, some of his recent music totally
sucks, but that doesn't take away from the fact that he is a top notch guitar
player.
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 10:41:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Robert Andrew Jurado <roburado@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: guitar favorites
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9605311048.D9734-0100000@uclink2.berkeley.edu>
Here I go with the Top 10 Favorite Guitarists. No particular rankings/order.
1. Nuno Bettencourt
2. JP, of course
3. Tuck Andress
4. Jimi Hendrix
5. Edward Van Halen
6. Steve Vai
7. Joe Satriani
8. Michael Hedges
9. For "Blood Sugar Sex Magik" (the album), not any live performances,
John Frusciante
10. This one's kind of like cheating. Larry Carlton and whoever played
guitar on Steely Dan's "The Royal Scam".
-Rob
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Robert Andrew Jurado
roburado@uclink2.berkeley.edu
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"ga-ga-ga-ga-ga-GUNK-ga-ka-ga-KOW-ga-KOW..."
-John Petrucci in Metropolis Part I
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 14:04:14 -0500 (EST)
From: babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mike Bahr's Contest.
Message-ID: <v01510102add4ab916fd3@[137.238.26.12]>
>Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 02:21:34 -0700 (MST)
>From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
>To: ytsejam@ax.com
>Subject: The SECRET
>Message-ID: <199605310921.CAA04706@bud.indirect.com>
>
> Since it's already been posted, now I can tell you all... the
>secret was that Metropolis Part II would be on the new album. The person
>who gave it to me was watching very carefully to see if I'd leak it, and
>now that Neil was given the info and posted it, I'm in the clear. :)
>
>- voluntas vincit omnia - Mike Bahr - durnik@indirect.com -
>
Hello everyone, it's BABS. Now if I remember correctly when everyone was
guessing what the secret was, I submitted my ideas on what it could be.
Now I believe one of my guesses was Metropolis Part II. So tell me, did I
win anything - let me guess, there's a kitten in Phoenix with my name on
it? (big laugh)
-BABS
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 12:30:13 -0600 (MDT)
From: BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: guitar favorites
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.93.960531122149.10011A-100000@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
On Fri, 31 May 1996, Robert Andrew Jurado wrote:
> 8. Michael Hedges
> 10. This one's kind of like cheating. Larry Carlton and whoever played
These guys are awesome! I have Michael Hedge's live CD...which is just
him playing guitar and singing. It is great mellow music...killer
versions or All Along The Watchtower and Come Together. I also have "The
Larry Carlton Collection" CD on the GRP label....very good stuff.
On another note, I finally read the liner notes to Savatage's "Dead Winter
Dead" and it gave me a whole new impression of the album. I like it so
much better now!!! Did anybody notice in the thank you's a guy by the
name of Derek Sherimian? Is this our keyboard player, or somebody else?
Anybody know?
->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->
Adam R. Bertapelle "Scuse me...while I kiss this guy!"
bertapel@ucsu.colorado.edu Jimi Hendrix
Ask for my bootleg list! Purple Haze
<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<-<
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 13:18:12 -0500
From: mccorkindact@alpha.hendrix.edu
To: YTSEJAM@ax.com
Subject: "Once upon a time, and a very good time it was..."
Message-ID: <96053113181224@alpha.hendrix.edu>
Okay get those flamethrowers ready:
1. Yngwie may be an "embarrassment" to Swedes, but you can't touch his guitar
playing. Just ask John Petrucci, who once described his own playing as,
"I sounded like Yngwie, only not as good," back in the pre-WDADU days.
2. Top 10 guitarists - if you don't like it, fuck you - if you've got something
better to talk about while we're in the off-season, then talk about it. If
you don't like them, then it is my pleasure to introduce you to the "return"
key - a marvelous device that takes you past the things you wish to skip.
1. Steve Morse
2. Steve Vai
3. Joe Satriani
4. Shawn Lane
5. Paul Gilbert
6. Michael Hedges
7. John Petrucci
8. John McLaughlin
9. Ty Tabor
10. Richie Kotzen
I'm not ranking these men on their musical abilities per se, rather on th
their influence on me. I'd also like to recognize the nonguitar-
compositional influencers:
Frank Zappa (he would've been a guitar inflence if I had any
idea what he was doing)
Michael Manring - everyone get "Thonk" NOW!!!!!
the rest of Dream Theater - for being a BAND, rather than a
bunch of soloists
Apt. Q258 (Jeff Sipe) - his drumming is SOOO tight, he boggles
the mind on a 5-PIECE KIT!
Medeski, Martin, and Wood
Col. Bruce Hampton (retired)
If this was boring to you - just remember your friend, the return key.
I'd also like reiterate my position that RAP IS MUSIC! It's just challenges
our definitions so much that we're not sure how to deal with it. It DOES take
practice to rap and to spin turntables. Try it, try it, Sam-I-am. You just
might like green eggs and ham.
Please feel free to flame me at my address, rather than taking up space on the
Jam with bad vibes.
Colter McCorkindale
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 14:40:40
From: Marzetti@gnn.com (Barbara Marzetti)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: stop
Message-ID: <199605311944.PAA08079@mail-e2b-service.gnn.com>
Stop sending me stuff!!
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 15:53:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: "George Bast (CS)" <bast@babbage.csee.usf.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Portnoy in Florida!
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.92.960531154828.2921A-100000@babbage>
Hi Jammers
Just coming out of my shell to spread a little news to the South Florida
jammers out there. A friend of mine left a message for me saying that
Mike Portnoy will be making an appearance in Sarasota, Fl on Saturday,
June 8. I don't know any details yet, but for those interested, e-mail me
and I'll send info when I get it. Oh, BTW, it's free.
George Bast
bast@babbage.csee.usf.edu
bast@suntan.eng.usf.edu
http://www.csee.usf.edu/~bast
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 14:16:05 -0600
From: swanson@henge.com (Sheila Swanson)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: My CD player SUCKS!!
Message-ID: <199605312016.OAA27001@henge.com>
I finally found LatM in the imports section at Sam Goody. I bought that and
the Silent Man single. I nwould have listened to them more than twice if my
CD player didn't suck so much.
I know the CD's aren't defective because they play just fine in my portable.
My so called GOOD Cd player makes the songs skip to later parts in the song
without my conscent. I think that the laser is having a hard time moving
back and forth on its track, because when I touched it(not the lense, the
unit) it worked fine for a while.
For example:
CD player: "I was told there's a miracle for/etropolis watches and
thoughtfully smiles"
Me: "WHY DID YOU DO THAT? PLEASE!! PLEASE WORK YOU PIECE OF SHIT!!!!"
I need answers before the batteries in my portable run out.
HELP!!
Later,
Cory
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 16:02:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: John McCabe <caber1@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Unfair
Message-ID: <199605312002.QAA21076@darius.cris.com>
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1585
by Beeblebrox <0384577@ptfe22.hro.nl>
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by Beeblebrox <0384577@ptfe22.hro.nl>
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by Beeblebrox <0384577@ptfe22.hro.nl>
Unfair, I think maybe I will just do 9 at once! But you gotta say the boy's
got talent(for the pictures).
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Date: 31 May 1996 14:59:14 GMT
From: "Steven Johnson" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1594
Message-ID: <199605312143.AA27700@interlock.amoco.com>
*** Reply to note of 05/31/96 11:33
Four-tracks to buy.....I would recommend a Tascam over a Fostex (correct
name?) just because they've been making 'em a lot longer. I am also in the hunt
for a four-track so I've been doing some research. The 07 is the lowest end to
buy if you want bouncing capability (able to expand from four tracks to eight
(?)--I'm still a novice with the technology/terms so corrections welcome). The
best BUY from Tascam is the 424 mxII ( think it's "mx", the rest I know is
correct). At the local Guitar Center (Clark St. in Chicago) this model is only
$100 more than the 07 ($500 v. $400). You get electronic controls, greater LED
readout, 3-band eq for each input and auxilliary inputs. Basically, enough
extra features to spend the extra $100-$150.
I hope more people respond to your query 'cause I wanna learn more, too.
(HAIRBALL where the hell are you when we need ya!!!). Happy hunting.
Steve
p.s.--Mytsecon wannabe's--Get hotel reservations in and lemme kno how many you
got comin'! If you need info., e-mail me!
***************************************************************
"You may remember me from such movies as 'Dial M for
Murderousness' and 'The Erotic Adventures of Hurcules'"
- actor Troy McClure
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 17:59:27 -0400
From: JBeck33449@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1594
Message-ID: <960531175925_404735647@emout09.mail.aol.com>
Hey everybody:
Just thought I'd let you know that I got an advance copy of Metallica
load(work at a music store). If I was Siskel and Ebert, I would give it two
thumbs up!!! It's alot more lyric driven and more melodic, kinda like the
black album. If any die hard Metallica fan is looking for the new album to
be more like Kill em All and stuff like that, I do not think they'll like it.
Overall, I think it's a pretty solid album. It really kicks if you have a
good stereo!!!!
My favorites:
Ain't my Bitch
2*4
The Outlaw Torn
Poor Twisted Me
My least Favorite:
Mama Said
If you have any other questions: please feel free to e-mail me back
privately
Adios!!!!
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 15:17:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Ear Candy
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.92a.960531150620.110625B-100000@homer28.u.washington.edu>
> From: KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden)
> Subject: Aha! (not the band, not DTC)
>
> King's X - Ear Candy - Dumb name, and dumb album cover.
I for one will exclaim my approval for such a colorful album cover and
insert booklet. For once a band decided to go all out with the hues of the
known spectrum. And let's not forget about the actual disc. My bet is that
one day there will be art galleries with nothing but arty cds hanging on
the walls. :)
> But, nothing KX puts out is bad. This is one talented band.
Ya got that right. Do they ever, you know, tour? Someone told me they
caught King's X in a club after seeing a poster for the show that same
day. They did a super-extended version of "Moanjam." Just kept moanin' and
jammin' and mojomannin' and...
> Not nearly as heavy as Dogman, but definitely KX. Fans of older KX will
> like it - fans of only Dogman may not. This is not a heavy metal record
> by any stretch. Best live band I have ever seen. Everybody sings and
> everybody can play the hell out of his instrument. Buy this.
Aha. So they DO tour... I second that last bit. I think I listened to that
album for three solid days after purchasing it. My cd-player is a
hatch-top (as opposed to the toaster kind, sliding drawer, whatever), and
when I went to actually OPEN the cd-player, the top popped open and the
disc was suddenly gone. After closer inspection I saw that the cd was
stuck on the rotating mechanism on the lid. Maybe a few more days and it
would have fused... A King's X-clusive cd-player.
Otherwise, seems we got some damn big people on this list. Damon's
suggestion that Ytsecon turn into a riot doesn't sound like such a fun
idea anymore with all these 6'4" 250-lb. ytsegladiators running around...
Bafu Vai
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 19:04:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: John McCabe <caber1@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: European CDs
Message-ID: <199605312304.TAA07099@darius.cris.com>
I'll make this short and quick. My sister is traveling and is going to
visit most of Europe. Since I don't want to pay import costs she is going
to pick some CDs for me. Could European 'jammers tell me if there are ny
good CDs stores in MAJOR cities. Please email me!
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 18:39:04 -0700
From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Questions.
Message-ID: <199606010139.SAA19894@maple.enet.net>
Hi.
I've got a few questions to ask of you Ytsejammers.
First of all, are there any Jammers in Las Vegas? BBlade? Are you
still in the land of the livin'? I asked a long time ago, but maybe somebody
subscribed in the time since then.
Second of all, does anyone want to give me about $15,000 so I can
get a really f*ckin' huge drumkit?
Third of all, and this is for all the Ytse-Drummers out there:
What exactly is Mike doin' during the beginning of the Scarred
outro. Y'know....the part with the bell. Is there some elusive pattern to
that or is Mike just doing a non-repeating bell-frenzy just to piss me off?
A few days ago I drummed along to the entirety of Awake, and that's the only
part that threw me off. Playing fine for 65 minutes then being lost for 16
or so measures isn't good for the temper. Well, MY temper.
Fourth of all, does anyone want to give me about $15,000 so I can
get a really f*ckin' huge drumkit?
<grin> <beg> <drool> MONEY MONEY MONEY!
And I listen openly.
Ben Laussade
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 21:41:07 -0400 (EST)
From: Dave <dduva@freenet.npiec.on.ca>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: misheard lyrics, transilience, scratchy discs
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.960531213930.16210A-100000@freenet.npiec.on.ca>
Here's what I heard in Pull Me Under the other day (I don't know if anyone
else posted this already):
"This world is spinning in SODOMY"
Has anyone ever heard of a band called Transilience? If so, email me.
Is it true that you can stop CDs from skipping by applying car wax to them?
If that's the case, or if you have any other suggestions, please email me.
Don't post to the jam (well I guess I can't stop you if you really want
to...) 'cause I'm usually too busy to keep up, and I might not see your
message.
@@@@@@
@ All this time I've been playing the part @
@ of someone with talent for making art @
@ If I knew what I was doing, I could tell you who I am @
@ I would stand up and say I'm a man @
--Spookey Ruben, "Leave The City" @@@@@
----dave
--dduva@freenet.npiec.on.ca
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 21:12:13 +1900 (CDT)
From: Brian Cox <lerxst@metronet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: ytsecon 3?
Message-ID: <199606010212.AA18046@metronet.com>
i have been way too busy to read ytsejams the last few months. can
someone send me info about this ytsecon 3? this is the first i have
heard about it...
<><><><><><><><><> Brian V. Cox (lerxst@metronet.com) <><><><><><><><><>
<>Rush|Dream Theater|Queensryche|King's X|Echolyn|King Crimson|Voivod><>
"You have to systematically create confusion - it sets creativity free.
Everything that is contradictory creates life."
-Salvador Dali, 1980
<><><><><><><><><>DAT Taper/Trader - Email me for list<><><><><><><><><>
<><><><><><><><><>< http://www.metronet.com/~lerxst/ ><><><><><><><><><>
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 21:22:53 -0500
From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Labyrinth
Message-ID: <31AFA97D.4F25@dreamt.org>
>> --Labyrinth
>
>Cool movie...Jenny Connely and David Bowie should do more flicks
>together.
i just remember thinking Ozzy should have done David Bowie's part :)
whats with this beeblebrox shit? it looks like somebodys mail sys went
berzerk or some sadist actually enjoyed sending all those blank posts...
at first i thought DreamNDay got a new Email account :)
lately, i havent read a single damn jam except for a quick skim...
having no time sucks... oh shit, i'm starting to sound like Skadz! so
if you've got anything to direct to me that you want a response on my
part from- mail me... not like anyone does, but in the rare occasion..
Cow
~Rip
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 21:36:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mithrandir <mithrandir@pb.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Moojoman
Message-ID: <199606010436.VAA16395@mindcrime.ax.com>
Hey Frank if you're such a big Ranger fan, how come you don't have
M.S.G.? I've probably seen more Ranger games in the past two years than you
have. And you call yourself a fan Hah!!!
Metropolis pt II What do you guys think that the subtitle will be for
this song? Any guesses?
J U S T S A Y M O O J O !!!!!!!!
Elen sila lumenn omentilmo, Mithrandir
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 21:51:15 -0700 (MST)
From: James Mohr <jpmohr@primenet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: My top five (excluding DT):
Message-ID: <199606010451.VAA02585@primenet.com>
At 06:13 PM 5/29/96 -0700, you wrote:
>Current Top 5 (non-DT) as of 5/27/96, out of 80 participants and 262
>bands/artists received:
>1) Queensryche (44 votes)
> Rush (44)
>3) Fates Warning (31)
>4) Metallica (22) -> New CD out in 1 week!!!
>5) Savatage (17) -> First appearance in the Top 5.
> Yes (17)
>
>*** King's X, and Shadow Gallery are also strong contenders for a spot in
>the Top 5. Others with 10 or more votes: Tori Amos, Extreme, Galactic
>Cowboys, Iron Maiden, Marillion, and Van Halen.
1.) Metallica
2.) Rush
3.) Iron Maiden
4.) Fates Warning
5.) Megadeth
--James
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