YTSEJAM Digest 1594
Today's Topics:
1) Jealous?
by John McCabe <caber1@cris.com>
2) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/31/96 - 07:49:47" <response@ibmmail.com>
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1593
by Beeblebrox <0384577@ptfe22.hro.nl>
4) A few things...
by "Ollila Marko" <marko.ollila@metsaserla.fi>
5) ASDF
by fitipmol@ibmmail.com
6) 4-trackers
by akyuz@mxsg1.epfl.ch
7) Guitarists all over the place!
by jon.berger@dennis.se
8) And Isn't It Ironic...
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
9) Turtles, Heathens, Punk Owls (fwd)
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
10) G.A.S. (YSI) -- ONE DAY LEFT!!!
by "Steven C. Young" <syoung@primenet.com>
11)
by
12) The SECRET
by Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
13) MLA Miasma?
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
14) re. The Hunger
by bishop@cts1.internetwis.com (Mathew)
15) What the Hell????
by Steven Jacobsen <jacobssa@hqamc.safb.af.mil>
16) RE: YTSEJAM digest 1592
by "Frank Benenati" <mojonet@pb.net>
17) Now I've seen it all
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
18) stuff
by matt rosin <grosin@mailbox.neosoft.com>
19) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1590
by matt rosin <grosin@mailbox.neosoft.com>
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 17:29:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: John McCabe <caber1@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Jealous?
Message-ID: <199605302129.RAA22205@darius.cris.com>
>I think this little genetic mutation at the end of his post answers the
>question in his last line.
Ah, it seems somebody doesn't want me to catch up to his number of EoJ.
The _ONLY_ person to get two EoJ! ;D
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 02:48:13 EDT
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/31/96 - 07:49:47" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
Message-ID: <199605310648.XAA29829@mindcrime.ax.com>
The mail item that you sent at 06:48:09 GMT on 31 May 1996 has been delivered.
However, it has been necessary to convert this item into a
format that is acceptable to the recipient, FITIPMOL at IBMMAIL.
Information beyond column 79 in the mail item will have been wrapped.
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 08:49:07 +0100 (MET)
From: Beeblebrox <0384577@ptfe22.hro.nl>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1593
Message-ID: <6E54A253507@ptfe22.hro.nl>
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Date: 31 May 96 10:13:56 +0200
From: "Ollila Marko" <marko.ollila@metsaserla.fi>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: A few things...
Message-ID: <9605311013.aa56@mail.metsaserla.fi>
Hi 'jamanoids.
Could someone tear apart this Beeblebrox guy. I'm well aware that he's got
two heads, but the more fun we'll have decapitating him. Not that we all don't
like moocows and all, but half a 'jam of his .sigs is more than I can
bear. Ever seen anyone taking an EOJ w/ such foul methods before?
Oh and another thing. This will be the day our archenemy RESPONSE at IBMMAIL
will die. I'm sure pretty many of us have been waiting for that. Now Ryan E. can
finally change the list's alias.
_Mape_
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 03:18:07 EDT
From: fitipmol@ibmmail.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: ASDF
Message-ID: <199605310718.AAA00442@mindcrime.ax.com>
--- Saapunut 03.MAPE 90-4694432 31-05-96 10.19
-> IBMMAIL.INTERNET IBM IMX
unsubscribe ytsejam
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 09:31:10 +0100
From: akyuz@mxsg1.epfl.ch
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: 4-trackers
Message-ID: <add45cfe020210042d56@[128.178.99.18]>
Hiya,
Since it seems there are quite a few musicians out there, could you please
give me advice on what 4-tracker (with track bouncing capability) to get? I
heard the Tascam Porta 07 is good. My budget is 500-600$.
TIA.
>From: Beeblebrox <0384577@ptfe22.hro.nl>
[snip]
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That must be beginners luck!
BTW, its nice to see all the people recently hooking up with FW.
Later,
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Dave King
"Holding on is easier than letting go"
Fates Warning
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 09:28:00 +0100
From: jon.berger@dennis.se
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Guitarists all over the place!
Message-ID: <31aeac31.dennis@relay.dennis.se>
Mornin' all,
Noticed that someone wants to start a "fave-guitarist" thread. Cool,
but, that someone also listed his fave guitarist for a start.
WHAT; NO MENTION OF MARILLION'S STEVE ROTHERY!!!???
What's the world coming to? To all of you die-hards, if you ever get
the chance, ask DT what they think of Steve Rothery, they'll tell you
the guy's a star, and they even performed with him at the Ronnie Scott
show at the Marquee.
Check out the guitar-solos on Marillion's "Easter", "Sugar Mice" and
"Jigsaw"....just a few examples of how to become quite simply THE best
(and sadly underrated) guitarist in the world...
This world is totally fugazi....
I can't be the only one to think that the new Metallica single is, shall
we say, disappointing? Oh well, I'll just have to wait for the new DT cd
to revive my faith in American rock'n'roll!!!
Best wishes,
Jon Berger
jon.berger@dennis.se
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 00:42:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: And Isn't It Ironic...
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.92a.960531003906.131582B-100000@homer25.u.washington.edu>
> From: akyuz@mxsg1.epfl.ch
> Subject: Jeremy Hyde: fuck off!
>
> Jeremy Hyde answered Brian Holst's arastar/ax.com enquiry as follows:
>
> > Boy if this lame sap can get an EOJ, anyone can!!!!
> > Tee-hee-hee-hee!!!
> > Maybe I'm sick, but I actually feel sorry for this guy, he digs DT so
> > he can't be as stupid as this post showed us!!!
>
> So that's how we should from now on answer people who ask questions and
> enquire on the jam?
>
> Jeremy, if you damn well know everything, what the fuck are you doing on
> the jam? If ya can't stand people asking questions that don't meet your
> incredible intelligence, just fuck off, right? Hope one day you come up
> with a question and get real flamed up the ass for it!!
Excellent point, Dave.
Bafu Vai
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 00:46:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Turtles, Heathens, Punk Owls (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.92a.960531004242.131582C-100000@homer25.u.washington.edu>
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Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 02:54:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Turtles, Heathens, Punk Owls
[stuff removed]
---- > From: akyuz@mxsg1.epfl.ch (Devrim Akyuz) > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1533 > > I think I'm happy you're getting out with your bullshit split > speculation questions. And hey, who gives a fuck who's best on his > instrument? Anyway, in my band, I'd never think about coming up with > shit questions like these. Who really cares?Obviously you don't. Who gives a fuck about anything? Why are you here? You want to talk about Dream Theater? Other things are gonna pop up, deal with this fact or relocate.
> No. Anyone got an idea how to get hold of DT/FW bass transcriptions??
Make your own. You can bet you won't get any from the fellow you so eagerly flamed for asking a question. How's it feel to know everything?
Bafu Vai
Whoah, did I just re-post that? Oh well. Excellent point, Dave.
(and yeah I really do think.)
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 00:53:55 -0700 From: "Steven C. Young" <syoung@primenet.com> To: "'YtseJam Digest'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: G.A.S. (YSI) -- ONE DAY LEFT!!! Message-ID: <01BB4E8B.D430A8C0@ip158.tus.primenet.com>
Ytse-Ladies and Ytse-Gentleman, the G.A.S. has a new name: "Ytse-Survey International", now that the thing is almost over. (Thanks for the inspiration, Assen)
We have reached the end of May, and the number of G.A.S. participants has only reached 91! For those of you who haven't yet participated, I would greatly appreciate your joining forces in this, in the far-too-little time we have left, as I find it interesting to know where the general interest of the YtseJam as a whole lies.
*** For those who still don't know what the Ytse-Survey International (YSI) is all about, I'm compiling all of the Ytse-jammers personal Top 10 bands/artists lists to find out which bands/artists are the most popular among those subscribed to the Jam.
Top 10 lists (that can, but don't have to, include DT) can be E-mailed to:
and will be received until May 31st, at 11:59pm (Arizona Time). Lists will be tallied and a non-DT band/artist will be crowned on or about June 1st (my wife's birthday), and complete results (ALL bands/artists received and number of votes) will be posted on or about that day on the Jam.
ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!: ATTENTION!!!!!:
*** I STILL need to hear from BOGIE, ANDREAS KASPER and ADAM COOK - you guys only left me five bands to work with - help! Without your complete Top Tens, you can't be included in the final big feature of the survey.
*** Thanks for the info on TKK, guys.
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Current Top 5 (non-DT) as of 5/30/96, out of 91 participants and 284 bands/artists received: 1) Queensryche (55 votes) -> They just might pull off the upset! 2) Rush (51) -> They're going to need a last-minute miracle to take the title. 3) Fates Warning (36) 4) Metallica (27) 5) Savatage (22)
*** King's X, Shadow Gallery, and Yes are also strong contenders for a spot in the Top 5. Others with 10 or more votes: Tori Amos, Extreme, Galactic Cowboys, Iron Maiden, Marillion, Megadeth, Pink Floyd, Superior, and Van Halen.
ONE DAY REMAINING!!!!! We're still shooting for 100 participants and we still lack 9. So, get out and vote, you guys. C'mon, it'll be fun! Muchos thankos to those who have played the game already - you guys rule.
Steve from Tucson syoung@primenet.com
"There's not a man, woman or child alive that doesn't enjoy a lovely beverage." - David Letterman
*** Also, get ready for an added feature to the G.A.S. that should be pretty interesting - we're going to find out who the most common and most unique 'Jammers are (this will only include those that submitted their complete Top TEN lists). Stay tuned for details.
*** Anyone wanting a copy of the final results E-mailed directly to them will need to let me know - and include a pretty good excuse why you can't just get it from the Jam, okay? (Don't worry, Assen, your excuse is legitimate.)
*** BTW, there's not anyone wagering on this, is there?
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 02:21:34 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: The SECRET Message-ID: <199605310921.CAA04706@bud.indirect.com>
Since it's already been posted, now I can tell you all... the secret was that Metropolis Part II would be on the new album. The person who gave it to me was watching very carefully to see if I'd leak it, and now that Neil was given the info and posted it, I'm in the clear. :)
- voluntas vincit omnia - Mike Bahr - durnik@indirect.com -
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 04:34:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: MLA Miasma? Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.92a.960531043304.21359E-100000@homer05.u.washington.edu>
> From: Gilbert Thetgyi <102346.2730@CompuServe.COM> > Subject: MLA Miasma > > If you're going to use someone else's lyrics, at least have the decency > to cite them. All of the DMB fans know that the passage is from "So Much > To Say", from the album "Crash". I'm not asking for MLA notation, but > at least give credit where it's due. I'm sure the majority of 'Jammers > aren't DMB fans, so they wouldn't recognize the song reference. Some > may even think that you actually came up with it, when in fact you > didn't. Plagiarism isn't a good thing.
If you're going to accuse someone who has had somewhere around 100 different .sigs and about a dozen names since they started posting to this list (and it's become obvious to just about all of us that these .sigs and names come from everywhere imagineable) of pliagerism, at least have the decency to be here a while to observe a fairly obvious pattern of one who draws from his most recent experiences and favorite influences while posting.
Maybe I'm just really content with life, but I'd be just fine seeing someone actually get a song's lyrics CORRECT. Half of the time it's a fouled-up line with proper crediting at the bottom. Sheesh, people still do this with DT all the time, messed up lyrics with credits, and on a DT LIST!!
("sheesh," copyright Big Ben Laussade 2MuchInfo Productions 1996.)
Should I yell at Joe Kruger for the twists he's done on my original ideas? After all, he didn't include my name, date of copyright, page number, publishing company, or publishing location. Then there's that guy who keeps using that name made up by that Tolkien fellow. We'll crucify him next. I don't think you're evil, Jack, but......sheesh! :)
Bafu Vai
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 07:36:20 -0500 From: bishop@cts1.internetwis.com (Mathew) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: re. The Hunger Message-ID: <199605311236.HAA31660@cts1.internetwis.com>
hi all! syrinix wrote about the hunger. i agree with him! this cd is cool! the band has two lead singers, who also play keyboards. anyway, check it sometime.
later,
mathew
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 08:28:43 -0500 From: Steven Jacobsen <jacobssa@hqamc.safb.af.mil> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: What the Hell???? Message-ID: <s1aead4e.021@hqamc.safb.af.mil>
> Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 08:27:30 +0100 (MET) > From: Beeblebrox <0384577@ptfe22.hro.nl> > To: ytsejam@ax.com > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1590 > Message-ID: <6E4EDD9349F@ptfe22.hro.nl>
For anyone that's never got an EOJ, looks like this guy figured a sure-fire way to do it...
Just send your sig a half million times to the jam!
Steve
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 01:45:54 -0400 From: "Frank Benenati" <mojonet@pb.net> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 1592 Message-ID: <199605311327.GAA03342@mindcrime.ax.com>
> From: Mithrandir <mithrandir@pb.net> > Hey Kids!!!!! > > First things first; Kevin, I can sympathize. I am an Islander fan, > nuff said
Im sorry to hear that, MirthMudDuck....at least that other NY Hockey team made the Cup Playoffs.......Maybe I should eat more fishsticks and then maybe I could understand you affection for such a hockey club (Im being very generous there!)
Ellen sells lumber jacks many exciting toys.
J U S T S A Y M O J O !!!!!!!!
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 10:43:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Now I've seen it all Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960531103810.15580C-100000@tron.rs.itd.umich.edu>
as if the damn magazines weren't bad enough, noe we're being spammed by moo-cows...........
Thus spake Neil Elliot > so the 10th and final could push it around 90m. And NO, it will NOT be a > double CD! So, there will have to be some omissions, or editing when > recording time comes around, or bonus tracks somewhere! We will have to > wait and see.
Yeah, do like Extreme, and put an extras track cassette this time....that oughta piss some folx off.....
I also want to echo the kindnesses being spewed in Brian Wherry's direction, those sound clips do indeed resemble a DT rip-off. which is entirely good and cool and other stuff like that....
partha mukhopadhyay
NP: hey, isn't that the drum guy from Rush?
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 11:08:15 -0500 From: matt rosin <grosin@mailbox.neosoft.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: stuff Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960531160815.006c5774@mailbox.neosoft.com>
>prevail, but an "If he can't he never will" attitude is one of outright >exclusion and...racism.
now i would LOVE for someone to explain THAT to me! ;) i really don't see how that enters into it at all, especially if you know anything about what initially started all of this. i don't recall race having anything to do with it.
can't we all just get along? ;) (it's a pathetic attempt at humor to lighten up a tense moment, not racism, so chill. i'm about the last person you could accuse of racism, so if one flames me for this they're gonna hear about it. ;) )
>humans will be improving and evolving until the end of the world! Endless >evolution! Don't you just LOVE being human? I wonder if Fucking Sellout >Records is hiring....
geez, bafu, chill. that had absolutely NOTHING to do with anything i said, so don't go blowing up at me about relativity's format change. they own the company, not you, and they are entitled to do anything they want whether you or i like it or not.
>Ben "You've never SEEN me very upset' rips his mask off and he is Tom >Cruise" Laussade
;) that's cool. and you got the EOJ, you bastard!
later, matt. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ m a t t r o s i n S U R R E A L I T Y dark ethereal music ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ grosin@mailbox.neosoft.com http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~msr7146/imagescape/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 11:18:35 -0500 From: matt rosin <grosin@mailbox.neosoft.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1590 Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960531161835.006e0918@mailbox.neosoft.com>
>From: QALA32B@prodigy.com (MR GARY C BROWN) > Hanging >in Houston Town-G.B.
hey, you live in houston? cool, me too.
well, this was incredibly short!
later, matt.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ m a t t r o s i n S U R R E A L I T Y dark ethereal music ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ grosin@mailbox.neosoft.com http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~msr7146/imagescape/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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