YTSEJAM Digest 1591
Today's Topics:
1) Napalm Death (Very little DTC...what else is new?)
by Charles D Harrison <cdh191@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>
2) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/30/96 - 20:17:55" <response@ibmmail.com>
3) Top 10 Guitarists, etc.
by "J. Frasch" <lrc152@clc.cc.il.us>
4) forgot a couple somethings...
by Maraya007@aol.com
5) Mailing List
by alcol@tcp.co.uk (Alistair Colwell)
6) Stuff
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1590
by Neil Elliott <101352.3261@CompuServe.COM>
8) Check out Brian Wherry's music page!!!
by "Jeffrey Hochberg" <jeffrey_hochberg@CCGATEWAY.AMC.EDU>
9) Re: Perfection, Complaining, King's X
by brian.kirk@USVGI.mail.abb.com
10) Baltimore road trip....anyone game?
by "MojoMan" <Mojonet@PB.net>
11) Two things ....
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
12) I know that you can't tell...which one is me! (NDTC)
by KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden)
13) Top ten guitarists
by Martin Saleteg <martin.saleteg@mbox200.swipnet.se>
14) The Hunger
by Mike <syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
15) Phasers and Webbage
by BigDTFan@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 14:11:03 -0500 (CDT)
From: Charles D Harrison <cdh191@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>
To: Dream Theater Listserve <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Napalm Death (Very little DTC...what else is new?)
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9605301339.A26884-0100000@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>
Hey Mike (and whoever else wants to know),
NAPALM DEATH IS COOL!!! Pick it up. It is nothing like Dream Theater,
but I can see how JP and JL could appreciate it! They are like the
pioneers of Death metal and they are still very popular. They started
out with just 1:30 songs to blast your ear off. Now they are much more
complex and the lyrics are IMO very well written. They challenge you and
make you think. The lyricist growls; I don't know if you're into that
kind of thing. Try "Fear, Emptiness, Despair" first and let me know how
that goes.
To all the people that flame rap and call Relativity Records "sell-outs"
I think need to relax a bit. IMO Steve Vai and musicians are more
talented than rappers (only because they play their own music themselves),
but (IMHO) to rap it takes a lot of skill. If you don't
believe it, try it yourself. No, not "Roses are red" bullshit, something
that is going to appeal to the masses. M.C. Hammer and Vanilla Ice days
are over. Relativity probably wants to make $, sorry, rap is more
popular than progressive; a LOT more. Rappers nowadays kick hard beats with
hard rhymes that make you say "WOW." Why do you think that MP likes rap,
being a drummer and all? He probably can appreciate how they take a
groove and go with it nicely. Rappers also have to produce, or they'll fade
fast. It's a very challenging market. Everybody wants everyone to open their
minds to DT but I think their are some people here on the 'jam that need to
open their minds first before they can expect others to do the same.
All IMHO of course, but I wouldn't mind going further with this.
Charlie
(The Ytse-Rook)
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 15:16:23 EDT
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 05/30/96 - 20:17:55" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 14:42:38 CST
From: "J. Frasch" <lrc152@clc.cc.il.us>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Top 10 Guitarists, etc.
Message-ID: <784F860F3A@isc01.clc.cc.il.us>
> Lets start a new string... Who are your favorite guitarists?
In no particular order:
1. Paul Gilbert
2. George Lynch
3. John Petrucci
4. Nuno Bettencourt
5. Adrian Vandenberg
6. Ty Tabor
7. Vinnie Moore
8. Steve Vai
9. Marty Friedman
10. Rex Carroll
> Secondly, does anyone know the name of the LaBries' daughter and
> the day she was born?
I'm pretty sure her name is Chloe Nadia LaBrie.
Julie
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 16:09:24 -0400
From: Maraya007@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: forgot a couple somethings...
Message-ID: <960530160923_207024552@emout08.mail.aol.com>
If anyone has any scanned photos of the band that they would like published
in the fanzine, let me know. I don't have a decoder, so I can't view
anything sent through the Net (sorry, Tim!) and I won't have access to
Netscape until I go back to school in August, so I can't download any off
pages (I won't go anywhere near the Web with AOL's browser), but if any of
you are willing to save some to a floppy and mail them to me, I will be MOST
grateful. All credit will be given...
While I'm thinking of it... I will have a home page up in August or September
on my school's server. It's actually 95% done; it just needs to be updated,
zipped, and given to a professor to put on the server. Obviously there's
going to be a DT section, and if you want your page linked, send me your URL
so I can tag it. :)
Jaime the Dragon (Maraya) - "Skadz, STOP BOUNCING AROUND, DAMMIT!"
(it's been too long since I've been on #ytsejam. <G>)
"For you life is a long trip, terrifying and wonderful.
Birds sing to you at night - the rain and the sun and
the changing seasons are true friends.
Solitude is a hard-won ally, faithful and patient.
Yeah, I think I know you."
Henry Rollins - "I Know You"
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 21:10:11 +0100 (BST)
From: alcol@tcp.co.uk (Alistair Colwell)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mailing List
Message-ID: <199605302010.VAA05245@zeus.tcp.co.uk>
Could you please remove me from the mailing list, thankyou.
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 16:12:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Stuff
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9605301633.B24257-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: Mike <syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
> Subject: D-Man is a court jester; news at 11!
>
> D-Man: You're my jester. Get used to it. =)
Do I have to wear those silly shoes? :)
----> From: QALA32B@prodigy.com (MR GARY C BROWN) > Subject: Question. > > YTSE JAM-awesome song by the way.My question is:What's up with this > Charlie Dominici guy doing the vocals?I started getting into D.T. when > I.and W. came out.I always read that was the first release from this
OK, here's the Reader's Digest version:
1) WDADU was the first ever release by Dream Theater. 2) I&W was the first *major label* release by Dream Theater, but actually their second release. 3) Anything else you need to know is in the FAQ. :)
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> From: CNG@tcco.com > Subject: Top Ten Guitarists > > Lets start a new string... Who are your favorite guitarists?
Let's not. Please.
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> From: "Daniel James Temmesfeld" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu> > Subject: DT's Iron Maiden influences > > I know it's almost heresy to counteract something that Bafu said...
Nonono. Heresy is to contradict the words of a god. Bafu's just a fucking idiot. :)
> But, I don't know where you got DT saying that they've never heard of > Iron Maiden. I remember reading an article with John Petrucci in > some guitar magazine. The article was where they played songs for a > guest guitarist, and the person talked about it.
I think it was a joke. If I remember correctly, Bafu said something like "and they'd never cover a Maiden song," which they did (Killers) on the HftH tour.
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> From: subtlerage@gnn.com (Andrew Miller) > Subject: flames and such > > >Dave King > > i just wanted to let you jammers know that i'm taking this to private > email. there's no sense wasting bandwidth on this.
Awwwww! Come on! We haven't had a good flame war in a while!! :)
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> From: majesty <majesty@li.net> > Subject: Ronnie Scotts Gig > > D-man wrote: > > There have been rumors floating about of someone > > having that whole Ronnie Scotts' on tape somewhere, but I'm not sure if > > they're anything more than rumors. > > I know the tape does exist, basically because I have it. :)
OK, OK, sue me. :) Anyone else care to let me know they own this tape? :)
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> From: pgor@netcom.com (Paul Goracke) > Subject: Lie lyrics > > Whoa. I don't usually analyze lyrics even this much. I wonder what those > songs will mean to me next week. Anyway, back to programming, where I > _know_ what things mean.
Wow. Consider yourself lucky.
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> From: The One They Call Wacky <bwherry@acs.bu.edu> > Subject: JP clinic in Boston, 6-18-96!!!! > > That's right, boys and girls! John Petrucci will be doing a clinic at The Comm. > Ave. Guitar Center in Boston on June 18th at 7:00pm. I was just there today, and they > have two JPM100's, too. There are gonna be good deals on Ibanez crap (I mean Ibanez > gear :):):):)), too.
Figures. Two weeks out of the year I'll be out of New England. No one ever calls me before planning these things. :)
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> From: Maraya007@aol.com > Subject: a request for info... > > Secondly, does anyone know the name of the LaBries' daughter and the day she > was born?
Chloe Nadia LaBrie was born April 10th.
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart
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Date: 30 May 96 16:06:20 EDT From: Neil Elliott <101352.3261@CompuServe.COM> To: "INTERNET:ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1590 Message-ID: <960530200620_101352.3261_JHP108-1@CompuServe.COM>
Jaime The Dragon enquired to song titles for the new material
well, new songs completed with vocals and finished titles are:
Raise The Knife Where Are You Now Take Away My Pain
Anna Lee You Or Me Metropolis Pt.2 (under construction)
3 other songs are completed instrumentally, with one further song (making a grand total of 10), due to be written. Running time with the 9 songs is up to 80 mins, so the 10th and final could push it around 90m. And NO, it will NOT be a double CD! So, there will have to be some omissions, or editing when recording time comes around, or bonus tracks somewhere! We will have to wait and see.
Neil Elliott
**************************************************** Director of the NEW DT International Fan Club ~ ****************************************************
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Date: Thu, 30 May 96 14:30:10 EST From: "Jeffrey Hochberg" <jeffrey_hochberg@CCGATEWAY.AMC.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Check out Brian Wherry's music page!!! Message-ID: <9604308334.AA833493107@CCGATEWAY.AMC.EDU>
For the record: I am not Brian Wherry. I am not paid by Brian Wherry. I am not related to Brian Wherry, nor am I affiliated with Brian Wherry in any way. Having established that, I ask you to zip immediately over to Brian's home page and check out the audio samples of his music. You won't be disappointed, man! The stuff is really COOL! Check it out - http://acs.bu.edu:8001/~bwherry/music.html And yes, it's progressive metal. (like DT, you dumbass) Hangin' on by a thread, Jeff hochbj@sage.edu/jeffrey_hochberg@ccgateway.amc.edu
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 17:11:54 -0400 From: brian.kirk@USVGI.mail.abb.com To: " - (052)ytsejam(a)ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Perfection, Complaining, King's X Message-ID: <0010200002885038000002*@MHS>
> Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 06:19:35 -0700 (PDT) > From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> > Subject: Perfection, Complaining, King's X > > If anyone can find the connections between microeconomics, macroeconomics, > financial accounting, statistics, calculus, law...and Marketing, let me > know. Because I sure don't see them.
Well, let's see what we can cook up here:
Ingredients: 1 whole Microeconomics, deboned 1/2 can Macroeconomics 1 tsp. Financial Accounting powder 1 dash Statistics 2 Calculuses (Calculii?), minced 1 pinch of Law (a little bit goes a long way) 3 drops Marketing
Directions: Put all ingredients in large bowl and stir until Microeconomics is well covered. Cook over a large fire until black. And, oh my, it's the Unified Field Theory! :) :)
Brian Kirk bkirk@usvgi.mail.abb.com
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 17:47:02 -0400 From: "MojoMan" <Mojonet@PB.net> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Baltimore road trip....anyone game? Message-ID: <199605302150.OAA19582@mindcrime.ax.com>
>From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
please let me know as soon as possible! We get cheaper rates and stuff,the more rooms we get. But, if you tell us at the last minute, we won't get those cheap rates. So, please get those requests in now. (The earliest responses get the best views of the airport. :)
************
Best view of the airport?????? LaGuardia airport is a disgusting, rat infested, hole in the sewer we all call New York City....... Dude, You gotta stop smoking Crack up in Burlington!!!
J U S T S A Y M O J O!!!!!!!!
-- *************************************************** T H E M O J O M A N Mojonet@pb.net MojoMan@dreamt.org http://www.pb.net/~mojo ***************************************************
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 18:34:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Two things .... Message-ID: <199605302234.SAA16487@wicked.stigmata.org>
First and Foremost.....
NO FUCKIN TOP 10 LISTS
If you really wanna know everybody's top 10 flavors of Frozen Yogurt take it to private mail.
thankyouverymuch
#2
If you come to the Boston clinic, you get to meet none other than that wacky ytsejam moderator, ME :)
Skadz
-- +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ | Ryan P Skadberg skadz@mindstorm.com | | s y s t e m . a d m i n i s t r a t o r / w e b . d e v e l o p e r | | http://www.bluesky.net/skadz/ http://www.dreamt.org/ | +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ \ "And every prayer we pray at night has somehow lost its meaning" / \ "Dead Winter Dead" - Savatage / +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 18:31:57 -0400 From: KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: I know that you can't tell...which one is me! (NDTC) Message-ID: <199605302231.SAA14495@pipe10.h1.usa.pipeline.com>
Hello from nice-weather-idiot-drivers MD, 1. Mithrandir (who is not a Red Wing, or a bird for that matter) Did I spell it right? Ok, so the Wings lost. What was I supposed to do? Give in? What kind of fan would I have been? I am past denial already. I just feel fed up with watching pro sports for now. Too draining. I'll be ready by NFL season...GO PACKERS! (See part one of .sig for another perennial loser I back. Uh, it's tough not being a fair-weather fan. 2. Flotsam and Jetsam Since I was dubbed "Flotsam and Jetsam King" long ago in the arastar version of this list, I feel the need to once again sing the praises of "Drift" which is probably available cheap nowadays. Very underrated record. I just hope they sold enough to stick around... 3. DC highways and roads have potholes. Big potholes. 4. Parking Garages have the license to steal, sort of like Mortgage Companies. 5. Pick a Window, Because Now You're Leaving... Or coming, in the case of some foul list members. 6. Nothing remotely related to DT in this post. So sorry for you hard-core DT-only people. -- Kevin (kwmadden@usa.pipeline.com) GO PACKERS...GO WINGS (RIP)!!! (Hey, Favre, keep off the pills, eh?)
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Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 00:50:04 +0200 From: Martin Saleteg <martin.saleteg@mbox200.swipnet.se> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Top ten guitarists Message-ID: <31AE261C.2FC5@mbox200.swipnet.se>
I can tell by your(CNG@tcco.com) list that you definately are a shredder of the worst kind! Why the hell do you put Yngve Malmsten (yes, that's his real name) on the top of your list??!! Are you kidding me? "Yngwie" is one BIG swedish (yes, I hate to say it!) joke. We are ashamed of this guy here in Sweden. Enough of this shit. Now, what I really want to reveal is MY Top-ten list. Remember, this is THE ULTIMATE LIST. These guys are good, shredders or not.
Name Motivation ----------------------------------------------------- 1 - Robben Ford This guy rocks! He combines feeling and technique in a remarkable way. He knows how to play blues, fusion, rock, you name it! Simply the best guitarist today!
2 - John Petrucci Need I say more.... Our own John Player Special. Fast as hell, ultra-tight, plus he has the ability to make you stare live.
3 - Scott Henderson Noone beats this guy when it comes to fusion. Check out his work with Gary Willis in all Tribal Tech records. You won't be dissapointed!
4 - Steve Vai I know lotsa people hate this guy, but you gotta admire his technique. Combine this with a little feeling and this guy could rock the hell out of anyone.
5 - Joe Satriani Sounds good everytime you hear him. Isn't a speed freak, knows when to slow down.
6 - Steve Morse Hehe. Well, is there more to say about Steve? He knows how to write a good fusion tune. He might not be as complicated as Scott Henderson, but he can rock a fusion tune as noone else. 7 - Pat Metheny The best clean guitarist out there. Plays jazz-fusion without ever going distorted.
8 - Eric Clapton He has the feeling. That's enough.
9 - Pelle Lindh Never heard of him? Probably not. This is my private instructor. I always laugh when I come to my lessons, he is TOO good at everything from old blues riffs to 8 finger tapping. He knows ALL theory. Nice guy too.
10 - Steve Webb This is probably a new guy for you. He is playing with a bassist who is a friend of mine in the band "Steve Webb & the difference". He knows how to play the blues. (I beat him in Tetris!)
Well, that was all I had to come up with for now. If you have any objections or questions, please mail about it.
I'm trying to start a poll about the best guitarists out there, so if you can just mail me and put ONE guitarists name in the SUBJECT, I will see who really is the favourite ytsejam-guitarist.
CYA (And don't forget to mail!)
Ares
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 18:01:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike <syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: The Hunger Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.960530180009.5914C-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
yo all.
there's this album i just got, and i wanna tell you about it. It's a band called "The Hunger", and the album is "Devil Thumbs A Ride." Guys..it's fuckin' great. Imagine a James Hetfield-like singing, with awsome guitars...and keyboard sounds in the background. I'm impressed. Skadz - you'll love it.
Ok. Gotta go. Did i mention that i hate working at the biggest radio station in philadelphia for free?
Syrinx has spoken, so it shall be law.
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Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 19:12:56 -0400 From: BigDTFan@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Phasers and Webbage Message-ID: <960530191254_124254580@emout07.mail.aol.com>
>From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> >Subject: Zombies, Phasers, Musicians > >> From: Fretburner <dlg3441@is4.NYU.EDU> >> Subject: JP guitar sound on ACOS >> >> John Petrucci gets thast sound on ACOS with a PHASER. It's similar to a >> flanger, but doesn't employ as much delay. > >Plus there's no "stun" feature. > JP's emotion, phrasing, and near-flawless technique is _stunning_ anyway. So why would he need a phaser with a "stun" setting? ;)
One more thing... I cruised on over to the homepage of the Ytsejam's one and only Brian Wherry. All I gotta say is HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!! There are a couple of samples of his songs. So do yourself a favor (do Brian a favor too) and go there: http://acs.bu.edu:8001/~bwherry/home.html
I must say, his music sounds rather "Metropolitan." ;)
Elliott Kim, BigDTFan@aol.com The Ytsejammer Formerly Known as ekim01@fiu.edu
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